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So you’d have to wait for another same size group to queue for the same server out of 235 servers? And hope that there would still be room for both groups? That is simply idiotic.
Not if the groups were only allowed to be 2-3 people.
Yes, it’s still idiotic. You have to wait for another group to pick the ONE server you picked out of over 200 (that’s less than 0.5% chance) and hope that there’s still enough room for both groups.
How idiotic are you? All you have to do is make it so groups can only join games though the Hot Join feature, problem solved.kitten that was easy. You will still probably have to sit in a queue for a little while, but I would much rather wait a few minutes to be able to play with my friends.
Remember that you can join a tournament with a partial roster and it will match you with the players necessary to fill your team while still allowing you to play on the same team as your friends.
Jon
We don’t want to do 5v5 tournaments, we want to do 8v8 normal bgs. Every other MMO i have ever played has let you play normal PvP with groups, and premades have never been a huge problem. Sure, you run into them every once in a long while, but with how easy it is to change servers on this game, it will not be a problem. Also, if you make it so only small groups of 2-3 can join, then it really won’t be a problem.
I want to que up with friends and do a few battle Grounds. Why wont it let us? It really needs to be fixed. Yes i know SPVP but we are just wanting to relax and have fun. This needs to be fixed!
You can play with your friends via tournaments. We will continue as well to improve the ability to play with friends in pickup games, but it will always be somewhat limited because we do not want large groups of guilds pub stomping the pick up games.
How about you make the matchmaking actually intelligent? If say a group of 4, a group of 3, and an individual are all queued then you could only match this group of 8 against another group of 4/3/1. You don’t HAVE to blindly place people in the match..
Except you can join whichever server you want so that doesn’t work.
Except when you manually choose a server it could queue you for that server until another same size group queues.
So you’d have to wait for another same size group to queue for the same server out of 235 servers? And hope that there would still be room for both groups? That is simply idiotic.
Not if the groups were only allowed to be 2-3 people.
Completely agree. The opportunity to grief is too great currently. I would even suggest to take out PvP in the jumping puzzle, but leave in the traps and maybe add traps that force you to restart that section of the puzzle, i.e. trap doors or mines that knockback.
The free tournament description explicitly tells that if you join as a partial roster, it matches you up against partial rosters. Problem solved, yes?
it either doesn’t do this, or it tries for a bit then if it cant it’ll throw you against a premade.
i know this because every day we are destroying random pugs much more than we are playing against 5 mans, and it gets really boring.
matchmaking needs a lot of work, its not fun for anyone to have 2 teams of different levels playing against each other
So the problem actually is that people aren’t playing enough with just a few friends. Ironic in a way.
Because they don’t want to do tournaments as a group of just 2, they would rather play 8v8s and not 5v5s. Or the matchmaking system is broken, like many other things in this game are right now. Or many people don’t know that you can join tournaments with less than 5.
Think before you post.
Think about it, you’re saying that you don’t want to let a group of 2 people join an 8v8 because it won’t be fair to the other team, but you want those same 2 people to join a tournament where there is a good chance that they will face a 5 man premade in a 5v5 match. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
The two outcomes from allowing small parties to join spvp together:
1. You can play with your friends easily
2. skilled players can dominate serversThe first improves your game experience. The second ruins the game experience for everyone else.
But 1 is going to occur a lot more often than 2. Also, if a group of 2 players can dominate a server then kudos to them, they it deserve for being that good. AND, people can just join a different server.
I really don’t see 2 people being able to dominate a server unless the teams don’t get balanced after each match. I have only done sPvP a few times (due to the fact that I can;t play with my friends) so I don’t know how the balancing works, but they could make it like Call of Duty does. After the end of each match, the players with the highest points are split between the teams, but the groups stay together. So if a group of 2 is dominating and they have the highest points in the match, then for the next match put the 3rd, 4th, 5th, highest players on the other team.
Or, they could make it so you can only join in a group via the quick join feature, and it won’t place you in a server until you another group of the same size joins so that way it will be group vs group with pugs on both sides.
There are so many ways to do it and make it fair that I expect Anet to implement at some point in time.
At least make it so small groups of 2-3 can join as a party.
You’re halfway to a tourney team. Just find another small group of friends and enter free tournament. Or enter with just you two and it will find another group of 3 that need 2 and it will pair you up.
But if just the two of us queue and we get matched up with 3 random people, then we will be at a disadvantage against a premade of 5. So I guess it’s ok if small groups of 2-3 people get stomped by full premades in tourneys, buts it not ok for a group of 2 people to join a normal BG with 8 people. That makes no sense at all.
I think if they made it so no classes instantly have access to an interrupt or a teleport type ability when they are downed, it would be fine. That would mean if you beat someone 1v1, and instantly start the finisher, they can’t do anything to stop it, but if its a group fight and you are not able to instantly finish someone, then they get access to those interrupts and teleports. It’s kind of dumb how some classes get interrupts/teleports right away and other classes don’t.
Basically, they just need to balance the downed state and I think it would be fine.
There needs to be a feature to let a group of 2-3 people join an 8v8 match and stay on the same team. It will kill sPvP for most of the players if this feature isn’t implemented. As was stated before, a lot of people play with a friend/relative/SO, and they don’t want to do tournaments, they just want to do normal BGs together.
The line of thinking that you don’t want premades dominating normal BGs is a valid concern, but telling the players that they can do tournaments together doesn’t make any sense either. Think about it, you’re saying that you don’t want to let a group of 2 people join an 8v8 because it won’t be fair to the other team, but you want those same 2 people to join a tournament where there is a good chance that they will face a 5 man premade in a 5v5 match. That makes absolutely no sense at all.
Just let groups of 2-3 people join regulard BGs as a group.
This is honestly a deal breaker for me. My cousin and I have been playing video games together since we were little kids, and now we find this awesome game that has everything we want in an MMO, except that we can’t do PvP together unless we find 3 other people to play with. That is just dumb, there is no other way to put it, it’s stupid. The main reason we bought the game was for the PvP, and now we can’t even PvP together unless we do tournaments. That doesn’t even take into account the fact that I enjoy 8v8 more than 5v5 anyway.
At least make it so small groups of 2-3 can join as a party.