Guild Wars 2

TexZero.7910:

gjBackBone.4807:

To rephrase my whole previous post: I dont like the direction this develops in. I do like the content but I dont feel like its put here in the right place because to me it feels more like raids than fractals.

Can you try and respond again to this rephrased feedback?

Sounds like you have a cognitive bias that associates mechanics with raids since the game was mechanically light for the previous 4 years. It also seems like you’re dislike for the direction is ultimately misplace because they told you the exact direct they wanted fractals to be when they started the rework processes. They wanted T4 to provide for people a source of challenging 5 man instanced content that was lacking.

I’d say they’ve flawlessly executed on both. But as per usual the community sees change for the better and instantly comes back with kneejerk reactions.

Yes, I am very biased.. All I am saying is the way I like things, yet people respond with trying to convince me that what Anet did is okay. I never said it’s not okay or its bad. I am merely voicing a preference. You explaining why Anet implemented the fractal as is completely misses the point. What I say is highly subjective, as stated before. What I am saying has everything to do with how the content feels like to me. I feel like the nightmare fractals is great, but I dont feel that way about the Shattered Observatory.

zealex.9410:

gjBackBone.4807:

I’d like to add my thoughts on this matter. Eventhough I don’t like the general negative attitude of this thread I will still post here since this is one of the threads most recently active.

I would like to not mention the difficulty level of the fractals, or how challenging it is but I would like to discuss the place it is in.

Like a lot of other have mentioned before, this fractal doesn’t feel like a fractal. It feels like a raid and has a lot of mechanics of raids. I am not comfortable with this since fractals and raids are quite different kinds of content. Not only the mechanics but also the length of the fractals cause me to skip it in my dailies. I know my fractals as a 10-15 minute small dungeon if executed correctly. The new one easily takes 2-3 times as long. I am not comfortable with it taking such a long time to complete.

I do understand that this fractals is special since it has a special place, but shouldnt it then feel like a celebration or coming together of what is great about all other fractals?

Lastly I would like to say that I do really enjoy the content. I do wish it was placed in another position. 5 man raids would be the dream for me. I would like to keep enjoying fractals for what they are or rather were, and also raids for what they are.

I hope my feedback was understandable for you.

I understand where you are comming from but did arena net ever said " fractaps are supposed to be this or that"? Fractaps are manifestations of the mist they canlitterally be w/e they like.

Ppl in the past have asked for longer fractals and we already had some longer fractals like cliffside.

They have atated that theres absolutely room for oldschool style of fractals and honestly was a sure thing.

Calling the base version a raid is also unfair. What just because i cant sleep mid fractal and still win the fight doesthat make it a raid and also makes it something that fractals arent supposed to be?

As for the cm tbh its harder than w4 and thats fine cm modes exist outside the tiers and they can be as hard as they can because they are challenge modes after all.

Also iv already seen 12-15 min clears on the normal 100.

You’re missing the point I am making, and also appear to understand things I never said.

The point I am making is not about what fractals are supposed to be or what they are intended to be like. I am comparing the new fractal to the fractals we already had, its about continuation. On top of that what I say is highly subjective. This is about the way I see it, I do not claim some universal truth about all of this.

To rephrase my whole previous post: I dont like the direction this develops in. I do like the content but I dont feel like its put here in the right place because to me it feels more like raids than fractals.

Can you try and respond again to this rephrased feedback?

I’d like to add my thoughts on this matter. Eventhough I don’t like the general negative attitude of this thread I will still post here since this is one of the threads most recently active.

I would like to not mention the difficulty level of the fractals, or how challenging it is but I would like to discuss the place it is in.

Like a lot of other have mentioned before, this fractal doesn’t feel like a fractal. It feels like a raid and has a lot of mechanics of raids. I am not comfortable with this since fractals and raids are quite different kinds of content. Not only the mechanics but also the length of the fractals cause me to skip it in my dailies. I know my fractals as a 10-15 minute small dungeon if executed correctly. The new one easily takes 2-3 times as long. I am not comfortable with it taking such a long time to complete.

I do understand that this fractals is special since it has a special place, but shouldnt it then feel like a celebration or coming together of what is great about all other fractals?

Lastly I would like to say that I do really enjoy the content. I do wish it was placed in another position. 5 man raids would be the dream for me. I would like to keep enjoying fractals for what they are or rather were, and also raids for what they are.

I hope my feedback was understandable for you.

Stuck in Ad Infinitum III. Please make this a higher priority.

OnizukaBR.8537:

Its way better this way a player that can do 100 fractal is much better prepare to raid. It make the transition way smoother.
And if you think its to ‘raidy’ just because it have interesting mechanics instead of a hp sponge boss, well i say we need more ‘raidy’ fractals then.

Sure, it does is some way introduce people to raids. But raids and fractals are two seperate parts of content. Fractals are not preparations for raids, they are their own content. Like you I do also like the mechanics, though I say they don’t fit to the way the rest of the fractals are designed.

I would love more of this kind of content, but not in fractals. I would be all over 5 man raids.

The ‘fractal’ as is doesn’t feel like fractals to me. It feels like I am doing a 5 man raid. I just completed it on lvl 50. We did all bosses first try. I don’t as much think the difficulty is a problem for me, but the perspective of the fractal.

I really like the content. The mechanics were fun for me, it looked awesome and it felt challenging enough. What I don’t feel good about though is it being a fractal. I think this content is so different from other fractals that it doesn’t belong there. It feels like a 5 man raid. I would love 5 man raids! But I also would love fractals to stay fractals.

When comparing this to raids I dont only speak of the mechanics of which many we can find back in actual raids, but also of the massive amount of health the bosses have. This fractals takes long, way longer than I would like it to take. I imagine on some days I would skip this one when it shows up on dailies, not because of its difficulty but because if its length.

Please Arenanet, let fractals be fractals and let raids be raids. I really like the content but I don’t think this is the place to put it.

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