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"Charr need no gods" taken out of game?

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Eh, sorry to tell you but atheists do, in fact, acknowledge that other people believe in gods. It’s a fact of history that people believe in various deities. The difference being, atheists don’t believe anyone has ever shown evidence to support the claim there is a god, let alone a specific one. Additionally, whether or not gods do exist doesn’t negate the impact those beliefs have on a society.

In the case of the Charr, the humans believe a set of beings are gods because X and Y, the Charr don’t accept X and Y because of Z. That doesn’t mean they don’t believe the humans believe they have gods or that the concept of ‘god’ exists.

Another way to look at it is through the Buddhist tale of the gods coming to the Buddha and receiving the dharma, because like all conscious beings, the gods suffer and turn the karmic wheel. If the gods suffer and need the negation of dharma to achieve peace, what use are they to us? Even if they do exist, they cannot fix anything of import, so they are not worthy of worship (begging favoritism), and hence, cannot be considered gods. (This is dependent on a theistic world view in an omnimax deity).

"Charr need no gods" taken out of game?

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I’ve only heard that when using battle cry (or whatever that racial is called) on male charr. Was there another time you’d get it before?

That makes sense. I don’t have battlecry on my engineer. I used it all the time on my necro.

Thanks!

"Charr need no gods" taken out of game?

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Also, early christian apologists recognized the existence of other gods (an early claim against Christians were they were atheists). Justin Martyr argued Janus existed, but he was little more than a demon planted by Satan to dilute the coming of the real son of god. SO, while Martyr accepted the existence of Janus, he did not think Janus was a true god; a being worthy of worship.

Additionally, gods exist historically and as metaphorical narratives. Believing as much doesn’t make you a believer, only aware others hold beliefs and that those beliefs shape history and politics.

"Charr need no gods" taken out of game?

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Atheists acknowledge gods, just like the charr. They don’t consider them to be gods, and don’t worship them. Everyone is an atheist in some sense of the word, captial ‘a’ atheists just take it one god further.

Since the Charr don’t worship any ‘gods’ in tyria and look at the existing gods as something to conquer kill, they are atheists. Another way to look at it is thus: lots of religions are shamanistic and believe god is a bear, or a lion or an eagle. That doesn’t mean they are and someone who doesn’t believe the metaphysical claims but acknowledge the physical claims are in no way giving ascent to the metaphysical.

Rate the Charr Name Above You

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Cthule Bloodmane, Iron Legion Engineer
Pronounced, Kah-th-oo-lah

"Charr need no gods" taken out of game?

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One reason I love the charr is the lore behind them. They are the only race that is atheist and I love running around saying, “Charr need no gods”.

However, my charr hasn’t said this in a long time. Not once in 2 weeks or more.

I was wondering if anyone else was experiencing this, or if it was taken out because of complaints?

Why do Charr have horns?

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They likely developed horns for defense and offense before weapons came about. Its the reason why we have finger nails (claws). Also, it could be a sexual thing. The more horn you have the more resources you need to build them and the tougher you need to be to keep them, therefore the mate with the biggest, elaborate, colorful set wins.