Guild Wars 2

Bump, the guild page is moving fast!

Also, in game mail is also a great way to contact myself or Hypatian if need be.

Hello everyone,
I am the guild leader of a small guild on Fort Aspenwood looking to expand our numbers to be more competitive with upcoming Guild Missions. We are a relatively small guild of 10 core active members and another 10 who play casually who enjoy playing together and experience all Guild Wars 2 has to offer, most of us are real life friends/family and some great friends we’ve met along the way.

We previously stuck to a philosophy of a small tight knit guild who favored quality over quantity and it’s proven to work for us up until the recent announcement of Guild Missions. Our main play time is between 7pm EST and 2am EST with a handful of active members throughout the day to play with. We currently use Dolby Axon as our voice chat (better than Skype quality, easy to use) and have all the current guild upgrades research aside from Art of War 5. We previously were located on Darkhaven, but transferred to Fort Aspenwood to be involved with the great community, something we felt our old server was lacking.

If you are looking for a small group of people to play with who enjoy playing and socializing with each other, enjoy a mature yet laid back community, and are very open minded group of people. For those interested in PvE we run dungeons nightly and fractals as needed and also enjoying leveling alts together. If you are interested in WvW we prefer a more subtle strike team approach and would rather roam than zerg, which has proven to work for us as we’ve taken on numbers greater than ours numerous times.

Please contact me through the forum or in game (Malixor). You can also contact Hypatian (our guild WvW Commander) if you have any other questions. Thank you for your time and I look forward to meeting some new and friendly faces in the world of Tyria (don’t worry, there is no role-playing.)

Why isn’t a 5man group considered a guild to some people? Destiny’s Edge is a 5man group and is the most “famous” guild in the game. Also, even Destiny’s Edge can’t do guild missions by Anets logic if you need Art of War 5, we all know they are a PvE Guild.

SUFFER [SFFR] just transferred to Fort Aspenwood today! We are a small guild of close players and prefer small strike team tactics in WvW. We were from Darkhaven originally, but had to leave due to very lackluster World vs. World and their lack of teamwork. We look forward to calling Fort Aspenwood our permanent home and can’t wait to join our new brothers in combat!

@Ethersin

Did you really just try to stir up trouble with HVN? You need to stop your crusade and get over it. You don’t like Seal, we get it… Next time why don’t you approach them privately instead of this witch hunt video on the forums. Worban is an excellent commander and had done a lot for DH. Just because he can afford to turn many gems to gold (your accusation), it doesn’t give you the right to flame him for it. If they didn’t work with you or even believe you maybe it’s because of all the drama you love to stir up. HVN is a good reason DH succeeds and a bad apple doesn’t mean they are a “hacker guild”.

We should have gotten a chance at a skin in the Mad King chests and 1 piece of Halloween Currency. So, maybe every 5 chests or whatever is “reasonable” still got you a skin that you could purchase with said currency. Maybe even shoulders = 2, 1 handed weapons = 5, and 2 handed = 10? I dunno… Just something I thought of.

Opened about 22 Mad King Chests… no skin

http://imgur.com/ayEkj

I don’t think I’ll be taking any more chances w/ my money come the winter event.

50 Chests open, 1 Chain Sword… Not happy….

Besetment.9187:

I do not know if you are ignorant or trolling. But the mechanic abused was a rendering issue, where they cannot be seen. Not to be confused with the previous invisible bug. But a clearly stated issue in which both NSP and DH have been seen, even other Maguuma people have acknowledged this. Have you even read any other post here

I’m sorry but this is not abuse. If you gather any significant number of players in one place you will get culling. You may not be aware of this but we encounter large numbers of Darkhaven players that cull purely because theres a large number of them in a very small area.

As you climb up the rankings, this issue will become more and more prevalent because you will start to play very high population servers with much higher WvW attendance than Maguuma.

We do not stack and zerg to take advantage of culling. Culling is a byproduct of stacking and zerging. We stack and zerg for unit discipline. We ideally want a critical mass of players in one spot that move as a single entity, that can split and reform without losing members in the process. There are many advantages to this kind of behaviour – everyone in the unit is focussed on the same objective and we can achieve things in numbers that no individual can alone. It is supported by aoe mechanics in this game, whereby aoe only affects 5 targets at once so there is protection in this. It is basically shoaling.

All higher tier servers will have organized presence that shoals. I think we just happen to do it very effectively with a very limited number of players and very limited timezone coverage.

How do you protect against culling? This is an issue of situational awareness. If you watch your map regularly you should be looking at all crossed swords and based on the time it takes for objectives to flip you can estimate the size of the fighting force at those locations and the direction they are travelling in. This is one method to anticipate engagement of a fighting force where culling will happen.

The second is that we use targeting reticles on our allies, not our enemies. We do this because we often field commanders that do not have an icon. We use the targeting reticle to control stack so we can always see the point at which we need to stack on. This requires a certain amount of unit discipline because all the members in each party must not reset the targeting reticle (i.e. by calling a target on an enemy, since it will take the targeting reticle off our stack point).

If you engage a fighting force that is culling or which you anticipate will produce culling, you need to cycle targets to detect invisible enemies and you need to alterate target nearest to see how far and how many are pushing beyond the visible units. Then you need to spread aoes out until you create damage numbers and inform the stack in voice comms where to target aoe.

There are many ways in which to deal with culling but it requires organisation and it requires you to play as a team, not as a collection of individuals pulling in different directions.

I think we have very good unit discipline and when we play split forces, we try to maintain as much of that discipline between teams on the same borderland. All of this information is publically diseminated on Maguuma and we encourage all Maguuma players to play with us, see how it works and why its important. If anyone from Maguuma needs help understanding the mechanics of this, please hit me up in WvW and I will show you.

Then player protection spells need to be limited to 5 people as a balance, the system is flawed. So many open world pvp MMOs do not limit down to such a small number, stacking that many players should be a negative, not a positive. Is it a design flaw? Possibly, but I’m not Anet so I won’t know their full understanding on choosing it. I guess it’s up to the people doing it to justify it, but it personally ruins any immersion in a battle for me. I believe people should be spread out to AVOID AoE, not stacking to survive it.

As to the other person with the righteous comment, maybe I am that way. I believe in good competition without having to worry about abusing flaws. Do I expect everyone to play clean? No… But I wish many would. I’ve been playing MMOs for far too long and I’ve seen many games taken down by these type of players. But, in my ignorance I seem to always try to battle it and rally people to play with “honor”. I naively always put my faith in people and I won’t stop.

Portal bombing is being used to take advantage of the player culling, it is not being used how it should be. These people are not using it to strategically place a portal to flank… They are stacking players and just taking a portal over and over in the same spot to abuse rendering. I use my portal all the time to get a positional advantage… That’s a completely different thing. Anet has confirmed the player culling is not working properly and they are working in it… Using a skill to abuse a system that is currently acting weird is pretty much and exploit.

If I was standing in a battle and all of a sudden a mesmer appeared behind me and surrounded us, awesome job. If you are standing in the same spot, spamming F to portal over and over in the SAME spot to messing with remainder… Not awesome.

Also every AoE is limited to a # of targets, catapulting a horde standing inside each other will not work… Not working as intended in my opinion (at least for siege).

I’m the one who came up with the idea of the truce, blame me all you want; just leave others out of it and stop finger pointing. We were getting portal bombed constantly and other portal abuse (hiding in a keep and using a portal to get people is a valid tactic, I’ve ruled that out as a negative). I, myself alone, no other approached NSP and asked if they had seen anything strange; they had. They were also wondering why when NSP breached DH Garrison on EB, why did Maguuma come in from behind… wipe them.. then leave w/o taking the keep. So, with myself and a few other guild leaders from NSP agreeing something needed to be done, we decided to try a truce. I then went my separate way and jumped into every DH guild ventrilo I had. I explained the situation that myself and some NSP Gleaders saw… they reported the same and agreed. Word spread on DH, many people have been talking about it in team and map chat… so DH IS speaking about it.

You can try and poison our actions all you want saying that it was a tactic used by DH to gain the upper hand, but anyone who knows DH understands that is not how we roll. We respect our opponents and have had a blast playing w/ NSP, most of DH isn’t in it for the win. Do we want to win? Of course we do! But, you would be severely wrong if you think it’s all we care about. We want engaging battles, close match ups, and nail biting scores up until the last minute. To even accuse us of setting this up for any personal gain besides shutting down people abusing game mechanics errors is insulting, but I’m sure that’s exactly what some people were going for.

I for one will continue to honor the truce even if it’s been called off and direct my energy towards Maguuma, if I stop seeing portal bombing and other shady tactics then I may go back to playing how I normally do, one giant FFA.

It’s not fair to say everyone is, I will admit that. I’m sure there are some positive people on Maguuma…

Do not even warrant them a reply Worban, they will try to keep baiting it out.

It’s also to go without say, that Maguuma is going to be a bigger contender compared to Ehmry Bay. This weeks battle is going to end up extremely close, there is no clear winner yet and I doubt there will be until the final day.

[Os] and their alliance are on board and are working to spread the word. Once again, we don’t expect everyone to comply, but if a majority of the guilds who are well known work together we can show Maguuma that neither server tolerates certain “tactics”. I’m also fully expecting sabotage posts and the like trying to delay our efforts. This isn’t about winning or one server gaining a lead, it’s a moral issue. Let’s not speak of “Darkhaven using this to gain a point advantage” because this is similar to last weeks battle so far, NSP will make a huge push sometime soon and the scores will be close. The guild leaders have spoken to each other and we all have the upmost respect for each other. No one needs to be “sworn” in to take part, they just need to make their own effort.

DH and NSP are too stick to their quadrants of the map until Maguuma either holds nothing or an insignificant amount of points. Once that is complete, DH and NSP are free to fight each other as normal; once Maguuma reclaims a significant amount both servers will finish their current objective and once again push Maguuma back. NSP and DH realize not all will comply and those who are invading will be fought normally.

Try all you want to say this is a waste of time, but it worked last night up until 2am. The night crew is being informed and trying to pass the info around. DH and NSP are taking a stand against unsportsmanlike tactics and gameplay. It’s a community effort to create a positive environment to compete in. Good luck to all involved!

The truce is still in effect, do let the forum drama let anyone else thing otherwise. It’s between DHA, OS and their alliance, and a handful of other guilds. The details of the Night crew alliance is still being worked out.

There is a server alliance between DH and NSP, it was set up last night after many of the dominant guilds seeing tactics used by Maguuma neither side agree’s with. The alliance entails that NSP and DH push Maguuma out of every map and then NSP and DH are free to fight each other. During the time that Maguuma is being pushed out, DH and NSP stick to their quadrant of the map. Once Maguuma has been cleared off the map, NSP and DH are free to fight each other once again.

This alliance was made under the agreement that we both realize not everyone will adhere to the “truce”, but it’s put in place to prevent the more prominent guilds from fighting each other until Maguuma is pushed down. NSP and DH show a great deal of respect for each other and we want to ensure another exciting week of WvW. The alliance is also fresh, as it was started last night at around 11pm EST. It may take a few days for everyone else to catch up and the word to spread.

I’m also seeing a lot of exploiting, other guild leaders I’ve talked to in DH have seen it too. I tried setting up an alliance post w/ NSP, but it was removed for “trolling”? Since when is trying to set up a cross server alliance between DH and NSP trolling?

Many of DH’s good WvW guilds haven’t been in there almost all week, it’s not a fun match up. We really wished you guys had more numbers because that first night had some great battles. Don’t think that those spawn camping goons are all we have to offer on DH.

I tried to persuade people to get off the FC and AR spawns… I was told to kitten and stop being a carebear… Right… These people were never seen last week ( saw 5 guild tags I’ve never seen since the game launched) when we were being crushed, when my guild was out there every night doing whatever we could to help DH. Fair weather WvW players make me laugh… These same people were saying “We own!!” all night too.

DeadAirRT had is right… Transferring is the #1 problem behind exploiting.

Please refrain from saying we won already. That was not the case last week when we won the first day last week…

Been trying to get a few gems tonight, but it seems Discover card is no longer accepted. The NEXT key stays grey even if filled properly.

I’d like to note I didn’t not “start” this rumor of people transferring off of SF, I just brought it (while noting several times that it was ONLY a rumor and my thread is back up if you’d like to see it). It was a discussion in our /team chat the other night in Eternal Battleground. People were wondering were SoR’s population surge came from, a few individuals were saying 3 guilds transferred off of DH (but couldn’t give names) and so did some from SF. Please read the thread thoroughly before you bring up that I was starting the rumor, I was just asking about it. That way, by my asking, I can stop the rumor from spreading further on DH when I see it in /team chat.

Billy McCoy, I really don’t think you read my post thoroughly, I’m not QQing as you say. We had an amazing match up and look what it turned into. I’m out on the field almost every night despite how badly we may be losing. I prefer a challenge, I don’t rub from them… Like all these server hoppers.

4) Darkhaven Commanders: I URGE you to re-evaluate your tactics and stop the mindless zerg… Worban, Tyron Stormbrew (sp? Gleader of Purple Dragons[PD]), and to an extent Yashka [HOT], have shown a good head on their shoulders to help lead our server; I’d love to become a commander and work together, but we are a smaller guild and currently can’t afford the tome. But, there are other commanders who are severely hurting our performance in battle. I do not like calling out guilds or players, unless I have a good reason… So, I will not offer any public criticism on the forums. If other commanders would like to whisper me in game, I can offer my opinion on ways you could improve (trying not to sound high and mighty, but I do have a great battle sense w/ tactics). We push and push way too hard w/ our zergs and never fortify, that leaves us vulnerable when our population dips. HOLD and FORTIFY w/ a point lead, over-extending does nothing but hurt you in the long run.

5) Toxic Attitudes: Get rid of them, period. Just because someone doesn’t have a blue commander icon over their heads, does not mean you have the right to berate them. We have plenty of great people who can lead well on this server w/o the icon and only a very small amount w/ them who can. Saying “DARKHAVEN SUCKS!!!!” in chat or raging at your team mates only makes the problem worse and demoralize the server. We do not suck, we are actually pretty good at WvW; I should say we are pretty good at WvW when exploits and server transfer abuse do not happen.
I think I’ve said enough and most of you are probably sick of me already I will continue to lead my guild and do what a smaller guild can do, hold points and supply lines. We are currently not interested in a guild alliance until we can evaluate what’s going on at the moment, but I would like to work w/ DHA in the time being. I urge everyone to end this negativity and bring our battlegroup back to the glory filled battle we had last week. Where is everyone from that battle? I miss you =\
Also, do not ignore the smaller guilds that have put much effort and success into helping the server strive for success, we impact and bring more than you know to the fight. Also, obligatory Suffer [SFFR] needs more friendly, intelligent, and like-minded people if you are interested. Send a whisper to Katipen, Malixor, or Delrik for more information. (Great, now this whole post seemed like a guild recruitment message)…..

EDIT: My original post was removed due to calling out certain guilds, I have removed that section and reposted because I believe this needs to be seen. I hope this post now conforms to the forums rules. The personal attack on the 2 guilds I mentioned have been edited out, please let this topic stay Anet, as it brought up and lead to a fruitful conversation.

Hello,
I am the guild leader of Suffer [SFFR] on Darkhaven, some may know me as Katipen (Mesmer) or Malixor (Engineer). I’d like to comment on the recent turn of events between Darkhaven, Sanctum or Rall, and Sorrow’s Furnace. We are currently not in any guild alliance either, because we do not agree fully w/ some of the tactics a few guilds in the alliance use; so these are neutral statements.

1) Last week’s amazing matchup: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/pvp/wuvwuv/Sorrow-s-Furnace-vs-Darkhaven-vs-Sanctum-of-Rall-WUVWUV Did we all forget about last week? Our great back and forth battles and very even outcome? We had the closest match up out of every other server match up, envied by other servers… and now, it’s a mess.

2) Hacking: A handful of people abusing flaws in a system and using exploits to gain the upper hand DOES NOT represent an entire server’s population. I’d bet that 99% of Darkhaven would toss these morons into a pit of razors then dump salt on them if we had the opportunity, hopefully Anet will hit them w/ the perma-ban hammer soon. “Counter hacking” and using exploits to “get back” at those people just makes you just as bad as them, you are not fixing the problem… you are escalating it to what our current match up has turned into.

3) Transferring Servers: Transferring servers is not a solution to bad match up, TRANSFERS are the problem. Transfers were supposed to be free for only a short period of time; I do not understand why Anet has allowed them to still be free for this long… Now, the damage these guilds that jump to winning servers have done may be beyond repair. Here is a simple tip: Losing? Evaluate your tactics and fight smarter! Jumping to a winning server and greater a population disparity is not the intent of WvW and its ruining a server’s community. I urge guilds to STAY on their original server and work together… look at last week’s battle, amazing. Darkhaven worked together as one and giving SoR a run for 1st place, how can anyone not want that back?

Rumor: Sorrow’s Furnace guilds transferring to SoR? If this is true… It’s just appalling… Instead of joining SoR because you cannot currently beat them, why not set up an alliance w/ Darkhaven until the points are a bit more evened out. I rarely saw any SF’s players last night across 3 WvW Maps… Just hordes of SoR w/ maybe a small band of SF’s players near their spawn camp. How is this fun for SF’s? Those who transferred off of SF’s are hurting everyone else who on that server who are doing the right thing and staying put. So now, Darkhaven and SF’s are being dominated by SoR or should I say Sanctum of Rall’s Furance. I do not have any way to confirm this rumor… but, from what I’ve seen SF has disappeared during prime-time EST. THIS is a rumor, but it was said in the previous post that there is no confirmation of this.

EDIT: My original post was removed due to calling out certain guilds, I have removed that section and reposted because I believe this needs to be seen.