Guild Wars 2

Gaile Gray.6029:

As we mentioned in several posts on the forums and in various other media, we have been reading and gathering your feedback about the Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns pre-purchase.

Please see this blog post for new information on the Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns pre-purchase.

Thank you again for sharing your thoughts!

Sorry Gaile but this really doesn’t do any justice.

Have you forgotten the different core games offered? with the higher costing you got miniature rytlock etc and the mystfire wolf thingy elite skill? what of this?

Now if by core game you mean the original standard version and NOT the deluxe version once offered then this might be a bit more clarity. What I would not want as a veteran player is to find that the core game consists of ALL the bonus content extras that were with the original deluxe version as this is just bad practice. The core game MUST be clarified as just basic core game and NO extras where the HoT comes with core game and extras. This would just be a kick in the teeth. Personally, since you have offered the core game in the past at 75% off then this could still be done with the HoT expansion and still leave veterans buying just the expansion at a lower price for ALL including new players but new players could get one of the original core games + any extras for that particular version like miniature rytlock etc when checking a check box as part of the purchasing system. This leaves any veteran players not needing the core game and those needing it getting it at the reduced price which you have offered in the past and this could go for any new expansion in the future and seems the most logical.

You take the price of the core game off from the HoT value (the deluxe core game) and that gives the new prices for the various purchase prices of the HoT expansion. so for say £99.99 you take away £12.25 say or whatever it was and that leaves the remainder for HoT ultimate expansion pack. then if the new player requires the core you leave what was the two options for standard AND the deluxe core to be added which was either around £8.75 or £12.25 or whatever they were. Let’s say £10 standard and £15 deluxe core versions. This means one of 3 HoT packs can be ordered with one of 2 core game packs where necessary.

This would make alot more sense overall to be fair for those pre-january 2015 and those after this date.

However, as it stands this core game should be basic minimum ONLY NOT the deluxe version you had which is up for clarification. This has been missed. Please clarify and look into this model for pre-purchase and any future purchasing

This is bad sales techniques. Far more money and sales would be made via the following solution (prices not included but would be cheaper).
1. Standard Expansion HoT WITHOUT core game.
2. Deluxe Expansion HoT WITHOUT core game.
3. Ultimate Expansion WITHOUT core game.
option 4 for new players.
4. Any of the above options WITH core game at 50% discount.
Simple to implement and means far higher sales than there will be at this rate. Happier Player Community too.
a tick box for the core game means emailing a voucher to get the core game at 50% reduction depending on the core game pack you wish for.

and i will keep saying this. HoT with free core game is a new client altogether like factions was and nightfall. yet they expanded the game. sorry but they were also separate continents. HoT is the same continent. I ain’t stupid ANet.

This is bad sales techniques. Far more money and sales would be made via the following solution (prices not included but would be cheaper).

1. Standard Expansion HoT WITHOUT core game.
2. Deluxe Expansion HoT WITHOUT core game.
3. Ultimate Expansion WITHOUT core game.
option 4 for new players.
4. Any of the above options WITH core game at 50% discount.
Simple to implement and means far higher sales than there will be at this rate. Happier Player Community too.

a tick box for the core game means emailing a voucher to get the core game at 50% reduction depending on the core game pack you wish for.

Rikimaru.7890:

HoT is not going to change anything, all it does is try to cure the symptoms rather than the cause.

The problem with your argument is you have systematically ignored the main aspect of HoT which is this

STORY LINE CONTINUATION.

To say that this will not change anything means you have neither the knowledge of the lore nor the first game and history and obviously the fact you have ignored the whole story all together where there are SIX and I repeat, SIX dragons of which one is defeated on the original game BEFORE any expansion leaving a further five yes, FIVE dragons to contend with. This fact alone means the story MUST continue regardless or there is no real END GAME meaning no real END TO THE STORY.

This means your argument is negated by your very own post which is dis-information by the very definition to start with. This means any reader need not continue past this first line to read the rest of your post in reality and therefore any reading past your post is pointless and a waste of time unfortunately. This I am sure was not your intention.

Such lines are said by people who do not realise what it is they say which is actually a lot. It means you have not been paying attention to the story nor season 1 of the living story nor season 2 which leads up to where we are today with the expansion. Nor does it take into account any lore of mentioned characters, like Vekk and Oola and the golems and their labs we see in GW2 and why the Asura even came out from under the ground to take Ratasum, (Mursaat) in the first place and even why destroyers are even mentioned in GW1. (Genius Operated Living Enchanted Manifestation/s). Or why Ogden is the last remaining dwarf turning to stone. The point is this: Alot of work has already gone into GW2 to correspond with existing lore and history etc. and the fact we even see Glint in GW1 all has meaning as to the expansions we will get for GW2. I would rather see expansions than new game clients that link as in GW1 not including EotN expansion (obviously). Therefore the argument which you base your points on are mute at best. It shows a lack of knowledge and game play as in involvement in READING the games PS line alone without the rest that has taken place.

This means to ask the question then, (since your argument is baseless and mute at best), cure what symptoms?

Please do not think I am trying to flame but I am rather just pointing out the error in your post. With ALL the information can we make informed decisions but without ALL information we have no basis to argue properly and adequately.