Guild Wars 2

lordkrall.7241:

Mada.5319:

Oh really now? What is this vertical progression you speak of?

Faction points.
Sunspear points.
Lightbringer points.
(Two of which were actually REQUIRED to even get past certain parts of the MAIN STORYLINE, and the third more or less required to do a certain dungeon or even certain parts of the world, including later missions.)

Ebon Vanguard points.
Deldrimor points.
Norn points.
Asura points.

I would say that was a rather massive amount of grind and vertical progression there, especially since all of those gave skills and most (all but Factions and Sunspear) gave very real and quite powerful passive effects when equipped.

Yeah, no.
You were able to get Faction, LightBringer and Sunspear through quests, it was a way to make players do the second quests. Which was cool because there were a lot of second quests so you could choose which one to do.
The EotN factions’ skills aren’t powerful, thoses reputations were for people who wanted to get the titles or the Hall of Monuments’s statues.

Guild Wars had no required farm,
I stayed with the same armor during 2.5 years in Guild Wars. The max stats stayed the SAME during the ENTIRE game, the ENTIRE game, during the whole 3 expansions.
And now I have to change my armor in not even 2 years, because “muh, we have to add a tier of stuff because we have to add a new farm-content, but don’t worry, it was all planed, we just forgot to add it at the release”

You don’t necessarily a Trinity, but there should definitely be role system (Like some classes are better at control, some others are better at pure-damage, some others are better at disabling ennemy)