It is a fact that DL has many more people then RoS, to take the lead on Saturday we had to play alot more than usual while DL does not have to specially organise a morning raid for example.
I do think that the players on RoS are alot better then those on DL but that does not matter for this match up since the victory will be decided by coverage.
The other problem is that RoS still does not know how to defend stuff over the day. You never see anyone building siege in a tower to hold it for example.
And the reason why DL should not complain about Nightcapping is that they have at that time the same amount of people or even more. We hold their Hills quite long yesterday and had the outnumbered buff most of that time.
PS: i would like to know how you retook it, was there even resistance?
Thanks to the few guilds of DL that today decided to run on their own for a bit. I only remember ODZ but there were 2 other “small” groups that were running arround.
The fights against you were pretty nice, exspecially the one in Hills and the fight in Briar.
Drakkar lake guild fight tactic: run away to the spawn if its 20 v 15, engage when its 70 v 15.
LDH gets the kitten award of todays raid!
they couldn’t run away with 20, cause they are a small 10-15 man guild!!
Who in hell said that they only run with guild people? IF they want fair fights, DEX is running arround allways without a commander badge. Feel free to engage us!
Why only do i think that they dont want fair fights? Oh wait its a german guild full of upscaleds and rangers.
I tell you also something very very special. A guild should be a group of players that enjoy running together as a guild while trying to improve theirselfes. Else you dont need a guild do you?
Dont have much to say to tonights raid, thanks for the lootbags drakkar.
I think you had a new group after ~22:30 your time in your borderland that quite
fast adapted to the style of the first group on your borderland. If one spot in your borderland was crowded tonight because of your people then it was the spawn area.
Anyways thanks for those guilds that together came to fight our guilds that (after you decided to run all together) also had to work together. Great fights LOOT, WvW and FRS.
Well Ray, we allways said that we need scouts. Neither RiOT nor VcY cared much about scouting, some occationally did but not much. Its not the guilds that have to scout so dont blame that on them. And when RiOT and VcY were on RoS it was DEX that did all the scouting/home defence alone, ofc some otheres helped but i only saw us and gina siegeing up stuff.
I think i read somewhere here that RoS is not ready to fight against a server like DL and i totally agree. We dont even defend our stuff when its upgraded, the scouts basically dont scout and most of the time there is no commander over the day. Why should we win with that?
It does not help that our guilds are better, as soon as they dont play there is not really anyone playing.
Thanks for the fight in Garrison (FoW) not long ago, it was really funny for us DEX, we were like 13 with a few pugs that got attracted by the fight markers. The fight got interesting when RoF decided to jump in. Cant remember to get so many lootbags in 1 fight. :p
There is no reason to cry if you dont get fair 1v1 fights. I roam every day a bit on my ele (i really like it for roaming atm) and i almost never get a fair fight, either there are allies “helping” you out even though you tell them to let you fight alone or the enemy gets reinforcements.
I think this mostly happens because there are many achievement hunters running arround to kill dollys and so on.
The other point that annoys me is that some of these people completely ignore what you write to them. I had a fair fight with a thief yesterday and downed him but let him revive himself since i won that match. A random kitten from my server went to the downed guy to finish him of for the loot bag even though i told him a couple of times to leave the guy….
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Your arguement seems to be invalid. Bt War which is our biggest guild as far as i know
comes from blacktide (a bronce league server as you may know) so they are still in the
bronce league.
DEX also comes out of the bronce league, precisely we come from RoS.
I stated this in another post but the quality of the guilds in RoS is not that high compared to the guilds in the silver league.
I know that the matches are mostly decided by coverage and i may remember you that RoS was way stronger then RoF not so long ago, so if all would have stayed where they were it would still be the same. Also why do you complain about beeing able to fight against a server thats stronger than yours, if RoS would not have gotten a lot of new people it would be another blacktide which you would stomp, is that more enjoyable? I mean if was quite obvious that RoF would never win the bronce league.
Also i know that RoS has many people when its running good so there are big blobs.
But as i said earlier you cant really say that my guild is blobbing too much, we allways try to fight bigger numbers since its boring to farm enemys with a kittenload of people on your side.
And its good for me that i totally dont care about ppt and defending stuff, if that stuff is too important for you pls dont quote me on such stuff. I only play for the fights against other guilds because the rest is quite boring.
Atleast you cant mean us with saying handholding. ^^
But on the other hand TaG is also a quite big guild for the bronce league,
i remember one of rof saying that no guild should have more then 20
people in a raid. ^^
Today sadly was quite boring, the only guild thats a threat to us seems to be TaG. We didnt have a single fair fight with them.
No other guild was really nice to fight so far i still hope for more.
Guilds like JD and HxH seem to still have to learn a lot about movement in combat so keep the learning up!
Hope that we will have some nice fights tomorrow.
I wanted to thank TaG for the fight north of Dawn’s, it was sadly the only fight where no other guild interrupted our fights. The start of the match up was a little bit ridiculous, it seemed only RoS knew when the reset actually was.
For me there was too much blobbing and handholding going on in RoS border. I keep telling our other guilds to not jump in our fights but so far they ignore that.
I really hope to get some nice fights against the RoF guilds, exspecially TaG.
Sadly we dont do GvG…
DEX was running in Vabbi the last days and HON allways disappeared fast after they got whiped with that blob 1 or 2 times but they allways came back with an even bigger blob.
I dont know much about the rest in RoS and i dont really care, if they blob too much then they are not better but we try to run alone as long as we can manage the opponents.
@Piker we ran in silver league with 5-15 (15 at reset) that was kinda hard. Now more people joined us here and for some holidays are over. However all competetive servers in the bronce league have guilds in that size and random zergs of big sizes aswell. IF you read the Drakkar Lake thread you see still complaining about ridiculous queues.
I dont get all this qqing about RoS having new guilds now. I mean it was quite obvious that neither RoF nor Dzagonur will win against Drakkar Lake, now there is a third server that stands a chance. Additional i want to say that the average level of the guilds in RoS is not the level of guilds in the silver league (compared to the good ones atleast namely TUP or VCY or RAGE or FURY or XxX and some others). This is not meant as flame towards our own guilds but its what i see during the fights. This also includes my own guild. I would have liked to fight in the silver league, you can ask my guild members, even though it is kinda impossible to whipe a guild with a 20 man melee train if you have 10-15 in total.
Jathres how big is HON from your server? We had to fight them 3 evenings now. On reset ok they ran with a commander badge and had 50+ achievement hunters with them. But they do this apparently every evening. Yesterday we were fighting them alone as 25 DEX against 70+ they were only holding bay and briar most of the time.
We had 1 fight against them with equal numbers which was a joke.
This is ridiculous, why do you create a guild when you turtle up with 50 randoms EVERY evening????
But then again not every Dzagonur thinks that groups over 20 shouldnt be in the bronce league. And if 20 is allready a blob for some can those give me a name for 80?
Lets all hope for Vabbi with all these “smallscale lovers” that the next 2 weeks against Drakkar Lake and Ring Of Fire will be awesome!
I think everyone here now knows that Ruins Of Surmia is the worst blobbing server full of kittens. Also there are only stupid Bandwagoners that go to other servers to ruin the fun of the evenly balanced matches there!
But in week 5, 6 and 7 you really get the match ups you want so you will have 4 match ups in total that should be nice for you. Why do you complain so much seeing that 4 out of 7 match ups can be good??
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Just wow, the first time you say all the stuff its funny but when you repost yourself 5 times even popcorn doesnt taste great anymore.
Btw the popcorn bowl is nearly empty now…
And for a good match up thread we need some more topics.
The problem is that not only silver league is full of blobs. In the bronce league you will also face servers that only blob up. Examples are Blacktide, Arborstone (here it was in the prime time the same every day) and Dzagonur (i can only speak about the reset so far). Ofcourse there also are smaller forces running arround but with the achievement hunters even Blacktide for sure had queues on 4 maps.
And i know of only 1 guild in RoS that runs with 30+ and thats Bt War, a guild from Blacktide. Still RoS might also belong to the servers that blob up way too much for this league i cant say that because we try to run on our own and with queues on 3-4 maps there is not much switching between the maps.
Yesterday we had 4 commander tags up in Vabbi, i dont remember many fights against Vabbi except from CB which joined for example in Garrison to make it a threesome. But as i said earlier Dzagonur was running in only 1 big zerg so we had to coordinate with the other guilds to stand a chance against that…
I dont get this complaining about guild groups running here. We were apparently in the same situation as NP in the silver league, running with numbers from 5-15 there was quite hard. And there it was fair for the other guilds to run with 25-35 all the time and nobody complained. I remember also FURY outnumbering us but still fighting us with full force but nobody complained.
And pls tell me another way then fighting with other guilds from your server together to fight the german blob. In Vabbi HON ran 1 blob the whole evening yesterday. There is no way that we as DEX can handle 20 from a guild and 50 randoms arround them on our own.
And to those roamers complaining about zergs chasing behind them why do you attack the zergs in the first time. We got attacked by single persons very often imo its kinda stupid to complain afterwards that they got killed when you run into 20+.
At the current rate UW will drop in the bronce league, dont know if that better or worse for them. And also poor poor Dzagonur. Dont know if they have a chance against the silver league servers but i suppose they dont.
Ye no drama here. Desolation lost some WvW guilds and UW also did so its going to be a fair matchup! And i saw really no blob at all today. Not even in EB!
And saying you lack eles feels ridiculous, you gloated on having DEX whiped earleir while we never had more than 2 ele in our raids even with all our people.
Apparently the next guild on UW left the sinking ship.
Sempros if you read this i think you really are doing a great job commanding, much respect for that! I know how hard it is to command pugs against good guilds and just seeing half of you people die in the first enemy push while you can just stand there and think wtf is happening. I hope you have still a bit fun in UW.
UW has only 1 guild that could take on the enemy guild groups and that is SLAY, and they are not really active right now. Ofcourse there is also XxX but Nem wrote how its from their view allready.
All other guilds are either small and/or not that well organised.
UW has outnumbered buff most of the time of the prime time even in EB, the perma wooden keeps in UW borderland also proove that UW cant compete with the coverage of GH/FSP.
Silver league will be only painful for UW, we had match ups against most of the servers we will face soon and lost all of them except the one against FSP but now they got reinforcements.
Yeah we had as peak number 18 today, and that was with GRTS that joined us today. At this point thank you for following me even though i only lead us to the death. :p
Its a bit sad that UW has not a single guild except maybe XxX that can fight properly in this tier. I hope our enemys today had still some fun and not only lootbags.
Dont forget the defensive Omega golem. Also to use an ac you cant let the enemys go to the ac! You have to push to them to have the ac cover you from the range.
Great video [SOUl]!
Really enjoyed it. :p
And to FURY, another lessen about “Siege in Combat”. A Flame Ram would have helped them more to protect their ac. The Fear from skill 2 hits 50 people!
I am pretty sure that DEX never had bigger numbers then 14 during the last 2 weeks. Our top number was 12 at the reset. Today we ran with 8-9 people.
Anyways you dont see any other guild gloating so much about whiping another guild.
If FURY for example would do this after every prime time the forum would be quite full of spamm i guess.
@ Batista
Why do you post it like that? Sounds ridiculous to me. I dont know about the other listed guilds but DEX is at maximum 8 people. Surely an even match for your 25-30. Also we never faced you alone. I know that there was no target in UW except garrison but 4 or 5 guild groups in garrison together and then you gloat about whiping DEX in that? Sounds sad to me tbh.
I see that RAGE still has to learn a lesson in “The right way to place & use siege”.
On the one hand the 2 superior catapults on the boat in bay looked nice but on the other hand your aiming skills were not so great. You tried to hit a wall that cant be damaged.
@ Sandra Martino
We also did not see them coming, we hoped to have a chance against you with 1 ac but did not have supplies so we waited until you had rams up. When we finally were ready to push out against you well yeah xD the numbers were like 12 vs 50.
Punk and an Other guild having a fight, Kale needs to back up or either jumps into the fight (guess their so desperate for loot) so the 15-20 v 20 fight becomes a 15-20 v 50.
To bad you can only achieve things by holding hands.
That is nothing even worth to mention, it happened to us nearly every day. Its WvW its not meant to be fair. And keep in mind that they could also decide to just run together all the time. Both Kale and PunK work together quite well.
Also i dont get all these complaints about Roaming+Zerg fighting. WvW is not fair, so dont complain about unfair fights.
Roaming builds are superior in 1 v 1 but i never saw a roaming party even scratching on a 20 man zerg.
Well i have to agree with Nem. The only groups that actually run alone once a day are Kale and PunK. And both of these guilds are quite big compared with us and XxX. If we whiped them once they come back together or they dont come back at all.
Anyways we say gg for the few nice fights we had against Kale and PunK even though most of them got interrupted either from FSP or from UW…
I see FSP’s strengh very close to the strengh of UW. Both servers got big guilds (SLAY and Kale). FSP ticks higher during the day, UW during the night. Both servers have a constant strong presence in EB, the fortified towers prove this. prime time is even in total, FSP ticks a bit higher but UW gets stronger during the prime time.
I guess UW will win because of the nightcapping but we still will loose points to FSP.
I think both servers will be the victims of the silver league so keep fighting FSP.
@Ridah, no need to prevent a flame war, neither XxX nor DEX will flame here. We play this game in our way and you play it in your way. I just said that for fair fights you need to run alone and maybe even take on XxX and DEX at the same time but then again you would be outnumbered in a fight.
Anyways wvw is not fair, we play it to fight bigger numbers to have the challenge. I dont think there was a complain in my texts. Keep doing what is fun for you.
And i dont think uw is angry about your morning capping. Our coverage is week during the day since i am on this server. Your coverage is better at these times.
Sadly you cant see uw’s full strengh since many people dont even play when there is an enemy keep in your own borderland.
Against GH we were the ones that got flamed for defending our stuff with ac’s while they only wanted open field fights. Now its (atleast for us in DEX) hard to get nice fights but we see many ac’s in every tower. Yesterday we ran quite often arround stonemist and guess what we saw. Every cannon of stonemist was manned for like 3 hours straight! Big respect for such dedication.
If you really want fights on even terms then stop running with a badge and act like a guild. Never found NO not with pugs. Guilds like DEX and XxX will never run with a badge to have a better position to fight other guilds.
Keep in mind that the usual UW guild raids with arround 15 people.
Everyone experiences different things during the match ups. Ofcourse you found groups that you whiped with lower numbers aswell. UW also has blobs. But still i say it was not a really interesting week. I find all fights annoying as soon as skill lag gets involved and that happened way too often when we fought BB or DL or both at the same time. I dont get why you on the higher tier servers allways run with so many people that you get skill lag. There are more efficient ways to play, also running with so many people is not challenging at all, imo its like doing temple events which is boring.
I want to thank for this match up and all the fights, we in DEX had in total lots of fun. The reset was simply the best reset we ever had. Sometimes it was annoying to only face really big groups but we found a funny distraction for that. I hope FRS will remember the supplytraps for quite some time.
And RAGE i remember atleast 1 other fight where you jumped in. It was a threeway north of Orchard. TaG and i think NHH (sorry i dont really remember your tag…) were fighting and actually we jumped in first. Both other groups reacted good and fast on us so the fight continued until RAGE came. But who cares, i can understand when a guild is looking for a nice fight and i am sorry that we were not really able to give you the fights.
Cheers to everyone who fought us.
