Guild Wars 2

Just wanted to report a glitch/bug that just happened to me in ranked Queue.

As stated in the title the Map Selection Screen did not disappear for me when the match started like it usually does.

Use games you “know” u wont win as a chance to learn something.

Seriously the part of the gw2 pvp community that shows up on this forum is pathetic. So many people crying about unfair matches all the time.
You play a pvp game, it is supposed to be competetive. You cant expect to get your pips handed on a plate to you, you have to work for them.

The best games come out of comebacks. If you give up a game because u are 100 points behind, there is no help for you.
I have won games that started as 4v5 and my team was loosing but we managed the comeback when the last guy appeard.
In the game that gave me legend this season my team was behind 40 to 250 points but with the correct rotation we managed to get both buffs and then hold all 3 points on temple which turned the tables.

Never give up.

With making other ele builds viable you are in a kinda difficult situation. Since Anet doesnt want to split PvE and PvP, they have to keep an eye on ele in other game modes. And everywhere but in PvP ele is “overperforming” as a raw glass cannon. It easily reaches the highest dps from all professions even in more difficult raid scenarios.
If you now buff the defensive utilities of ele what will happen?
- nothing for any game mode but pvp because only there the defensive capabilites
really matter.
- in pvp it will reinforce the bunker ele.

If you buff the base damage from ele without touching the defence?
- ele will continue to overperform in PvE which will put more other professions to the place where they are useless to consider.
- in PvP the bunker ele will gain damage making that build even more important for a team.

So the solution is to buff the offensive traitlines from ele while nerfing the base damage at the same time to overall keep the damage of a glass cannon the same it is right now. At the same time the defence could take minor nerfs. But you dont know if such a balancing would push ele out of the meta or make it stronger because you have to consider the other professions aswell.

Shorter Seasons dont really solve any problems to be honest. If we would have more seasons (arround 8?) that are all only 1 month, alot of people will continue to get unbalanced match ups. Good players might rise fast but mostly because they stomp the bad ones. Bad players would get stomped every season.

Its also bad for those people who cant play (multiple games) every day. I would be such an example i didnt have much time to play this season but when i played i mostly got win streaks and so i got to legend without any problems. With more shorter seasons i would most of the time be in a division where i dont deserve to be. I think longer seasons with more divisions and less safety nets would be beneficient for the game.

It has been working for me so far.

All i see is one team that has a balanced setup (with ele, engi and nec they can do great in team fights and mes and ranger are good for roaming and some support) and one team that doesnt have a decent setup.
I dont think that your team should have won this match up since the enemy team has a huge advantage only due to the fact they got an ele and a nec.

Get your teammembers to relog to something decent or do it yourself.
In this game you play guardian (dragonhunter-trapper?) and that is at best a weak build when u fight against a scrapper and an ele in the enemy team which are both countering you, yet you didnt relog.

The key to winning is to know match ups. You (and your team) need to know what your build/class combination is able to do and if the enemy setup is worse or better.

When soloqueuing threw Ruby over the last 2 days i noticed that the team with the better setup will nearly always win.

Reason why you see more thiefs is simply because all the thief players could not play their main profession during the season because it was so weak compared to others there.

Locked class switching benefits only really 4 and 5 man premade teams that can abuse combinations that could normally easily be countered/reacted to. Also you keep forgetting that both sides can switch professions.

However there are obviously other issues. I think it is a big mistake that you can not play ranked arena between seasons and unranked should be a testing/training ground independed from ranked.

As a result maybe you shouldnt be able to relog in unranked while having that benefit in ranked arena. This would be a way to test it and see the benefits of the system and the flaws. Of course this requires ranked arena beeing availiable during non-season time but i dont see how thats a problem in the first place?

The result of a match making algorithm that does create “balanced” games is that the queue times go up. Also no matter what anet does, there will always be people that complain about the system.
I rather have the option to change the outcome of a match by switching professions instead of relying on anet to create “balanced” games for everyone.
No class stacking would still be a nice thing. But profession is not equal to the build they play, there are things your build counters and some that it doesnt counter and sometimes you need to switch or the whole match will be uneven. I dont think anet can come up with an algorithm that will really create fair games anyways.

Class swapping is required if you play spvp with solo or duo queue and get unlucky with your team setup. It gives you a way to react to your teams composition and/or the enemy team’s. Locking this will create loopsided matches, making things like heavy condi setups extremely strong if the enemy team cant stack some aoe condi cleanse. This was just an example to show that swapping profession can be helpful, there are tons of other examples. If you are too ignorant to see the benefits of this then i doubt you understood the way spvp works.

If you need practice with a profession you are not good with and dont want to force your “weight” onto other players in a higher mmr bracket, you can play unranked arena.

Did map completion on guardian, everything fine – got the reward chest.
Completed it then on my thief (only 1 PoI missed) and i did not get a chest.
Did sent a ticket.
edit: got 100% map like others that reported a similar issue

Do i understand this correct:
-you can buy a Scroll that gives you a random hero challenge completed (1 hero point) -you need those hero points to unlock new traits
-pve player can just gather hero points by map completion but wvw players are not allowed to be prepared (the scroll will get added and wasnt known, so hoarding wasnt actually a preparation)?
→dont wvw players have a disadvantage compared to pve players this way? Please equal it out and delete all pve players hero points so they are not more prepared then i am???

all is vain QQ
/15 charrs

Only playing d/d+sb since i dislike the gameplay of d/p and s/d. Compared to those builds it always felt weak as it is lacking most of the defensive options a thief has and is easier to counter.
I can confirm that after the patch it got more difficult to play, part of it is the increased cd of Withdraw. I either oneshot the enemy or have to disengage (atleast shortbow movement is really strong now). Longer fights are pretty much not possible for my build.

Anyways i prefer now to play my medi-guardian, it was strong before and feels alot stronger now.

Ever since certain guilds left, the community pulled close together. There was no rage/flame during the last weeks.
Its really nice a when guild leader of a guild that left the server leaves a negative comment.
And calling a whole server a “bunch of kittens” speaks for itself.

Anyways, with the servers arround RoS getting transfers we are more then ever in the need of players.

Treszone.3897:

absolutly bored matchup.

1. i dont see really rof.
2. ros to scared for fun . only zerg/blobs vs lesser or only points, points, points points.

i hope really rof to move up in the higher tiers but i think they are big lose vs server with the same 24/7 strength and the bandwagonguilds leave and search a new server :/

but hey i think we see us in the next weeks……… with rof, underworld and ranik.

1. Why do you want RoF to tier up and badmouth about them now aswell?

2. On a more serious note, you didnt read anything of what i wrote to you earlier so pls just shut your mouth, you obviously only write stupid stuff anyways. If you want to discuss anything here then read what i wrote to you earlier and stop posting bullkitten about other servers and guilds all the time.

3. We fought the guild you are in with DEX and you really used NO tactic as a guild yet you badmouth about us all the time. Learn to play first before whining on the forums pls.

PS: I only write my own opinion so dont involve my guild in this.

Ok Hutch you cant know what was in our TS, we stacked at the portal and hoped that there is more than just you (since we had you there before) and had the plan that if only you are there we will do a /salute to you but our people killed you so fast after we pushed out that we had no time to do the /salute, this is why i did /cry.

e/ that had to be at another occation since i am a bronze squire not a silver one on my warrior. Never mind it then.

And you again prove my previous post right. Good for this boring match up thread though that there is one lunatic Dz guy who badmouths over other guilds.

Well then i hope you will find in the gold league what you want. If gunners isnt dropping in rating. :p

Too bad that this match up just lost one of the best guilds of the bronze league. Will probably be kinda boring now..

I will answer your questions Treszone, even though i dont think you will give it a try to understand our point. All i remember about you is constant whining as soon as you face our server, you talk disrespectful about our guilds are you even add some random facts that obviously are not true. But that is my opinion and i dont want to flame you with this so please let me have my opinion as i let you have yours.

-First off all why can a low-tier server like Dz face RoS or FR after the leagues?
Yes you had to fight these 2 servers in all 5 match ups. That really i strange so now we have to go in the rankings: Dz recently went up from rank 21 to rank 20 due to UW loosing all their people. Now we look who is above Dz. On rank 19 we can find FR atm and on rank 18 we see RoS. Due to FR playing good in their current match up we see that these two ranks will flip again (FR = rank 18 / RoS = rank 19).
So now we can see that Dz has a very close rank to those two servers. I dont want to make any adventurous assumptions but this might be the reason why Dz has to fight these two servers regularly.

-Second: RoS = PvD server number 1.
Since RoS does not really get a challenging fight against any other servers as Dz and RoF in the bronze league we have the goal to go up to the silverleague. I explained in the first point about our current rank and how close we are to FR so you can see that atm we will be in the bronze league. We have a match up against two “weaker” servers, in such match ups it is very easy to loose rating but hard to gain more rating. At the same time FR is atm winning the match up against the next two servers that are close to our rating, MS an DL. This leads to FR gaining alot of points.

-Third: RoS too bad for silver league?
Again a point where it helps to check the results of the last match ups. If you look closely then you first can see that DL is currently on rank 16, from the leagues you might remember that RoS was not able to beat DL and lets be realistic the match ups were not close.
But lets take a closer look on the last match ups of RoS. We played against AM and DL where we came in second. (Our first victory over DL). After that we had DL and MS, we ended up third. Then we got FSP and MS, we again ended on the third place.
So alone from the numbers you can say that in the silver league RoS would be a very weak server. Not all people on RoS want to go to the silver league due to this.

-Fourth: RoS looses to servers with (the same?) 24/7 coverage?
Here i will have to tell my opinion since there are no official numbers that arena net gives us about the amount of people that are online during specific times so there might be a mistake.
For the current bronze league RoS would by far have the best coverage, there is no point in denying that. But as you know the winner of a match up is decided mostly by coverage you allready see that servers like DL have a better coverage then RoS. Now you have to keep in mind that in the silver league is also a gap between the stronger and the weaker servers, quite similar to the gap between Dz/RoF and RoS/DL for the first season of the leagues.
Just take a look on the current match up. You can see that RoS had a very decent night coverage compared to your server but in the mornings we had only slightly more ppt then your server. Our morning coverage is compared to the silver league servers really weak, this was btw the reason why we lost to DL in the season 1. But now take a look on the match up against FSP, there you see that our nights were extremly weak. What coult that mean?
I think that RoS has a lot of fair weather players, best example is that in the last match up we mostly had (i only talk about our prime time) 1 queue on eb and a queue on RoS and basically noone playing on the other two maps. Yesterday we had queues on all 4 maps for a rather long time but it was reset so i would like to see what will be in todays prime time.
However RoS does not have the coverage to play on a competetive level in the silver league but we are way too strong for the bronze league. With this having said i just want to say that there you can see imo the biggest flaw in the league system of arena net.

I hope this was enough for you to understand why you face us and how strong RoS really is. Please dont take anything of this as a flame, i tried to add facts to my opinions.

I hope i didnt make too many mistakes while writing.
PS: All this is only my personal opinion, it does not reflect the opinion of my guild and also not of the server RoS.

PPS: I am looking forward to some nice fights in this match up. With this said i really want to thank FIRE from RoF for fighting us yesterday, i know we had bigger numbers then you.
I hope we face SWAT and TaG today.

That was for leveling only.

We did enjoy the fights with you, we were ~14 DEX but had some that followed us today so in total we were ~18-20, cant say exactly.
Also nice fights with fire and riot.

We also like to fight miep :p

@Shibotu: You should be happy that they came to fight you afterall. I had evenings where i ran 20 min through your eb corner, followed your zergs, engaged the tail of your zerg but all of the people just try to run to the save 40/50 man zerg. When i went too close then 5-10 came to chase me but if i ran abit too far away they allways prefered to go back to the zerg.

While running arround stonemist i saw more than 1 guy running inside and then fireing on me with a cannon.

Yeah it was a good feeling to take bay after 3 hours of attacking it alone. We ran without a badge and hat at best 27 people in teamspeak, the amount of people AM pulled in to defend bay was enormous and alone we were not able to take bay from you. I am pretty sure you used over 10000 supplies in total to repair what we damaged but whenever we came back most of the stuff was again nearly fully repaired. Where do you get so many supplies from?? :p
Thanks to RE and FRS to help us out when our numbers went low.

And whoever commanded DL really wasnt the smartest. We constantly gave opportunites to attack garrison or hills but you didnt even manage to drain their supplies…

Well FRS took it quite fast when they were on the map. Funny though how DL came to cap the wooden stuff that we turned to paper.

@ Shadowresli: We actually like fighting you but thats maybe only DEX. Your playstyle nothing special but i guess the whiners stopped whining since it didnt change anything.
I think the fights you give us are pretty nice, had lots of fun in your Borderland today, since we are allways outnumbered (its a DEX thing i guess :p) we have nice magic find and no repair bills.
A little tip, your portal bombs bring only 20 people through, and we know where they are its abit easy to counter.^^

After the raid i decided to roam abit, but thats just really really boring. I am not good since i dont roam much but your people dont even give it a try (that goes sadly to both DL and AM).
Got ganked by 2 thiefs which both jumped and laughed on my dead body afterwards but i got my revenge when i chased them while they were running apart each other since only 1 of them wanted to get the sentry.

Can you now relax abit again?
And AM you dont like to do teamwork do you? DEX wanted to help you to take garrison in DL by camping the portal in the north inner gate but you had to engage us.
Kinda funny how all complain about blobs, during both evenings we were outnumbered all the time yet i wont complain. I like fights where you get 30-40 and even more kills. :P
Keep it up.

-grabs popcorn-

Well i totally believe that this happened, there were a couple of complainments about this guild in our last match up. But i dont think that anyone knows that guild. It is not organised in our community so you could say it does not belong to it. I know that does not help you though.

@ Mouggari: Against DL we had a better nightcrew (atleast at the start of the match ups) but the germans also played until 4-5 their time and their breakfastgolemrush-crew starts every day at 7 am. You maybe saw that our day coverage is really, really poor. We loose keeps really often atm it might be because the match up is allready won but infact this is a surmian problem, we never have people defending stuff. Outnumbered is not something only you have in this match up. The DL morning zerg was allways about 30-60 people, they imedietly upgrade everything to t3. Germans are obsessed with arrow carts and there are scouts in every tower. Its how many national servers play…

Anyways yesterday was hard for us, we were 10 DEX with the help of 3 FoF, UW you had 2 quite big groups running arround giving us good fights so thanks for that.

I see the post i related to is deleted so dont mind what i wrote.:p
Thanks for the duels in the OS today!
Btw to UW and DZ you have to teach some people manners there.
(I know that also RoS people dont allways act the way they should there)
But noone should interrupt 1v1s there or finish people randomly and
such stuff.

You really complain when blobbing and golem rushing is happening? After “double teaming” us the day before?

I tell you one thing. Every server blobs even uw and dz. Every server can use golems. Every server takes sometimes stuff without resistance. Its how the game works.

Did you see any complaining about your “alliance” here?

Anyways i kind of like the match up, SWAT gives our guild a hard time with their 20 man melee train.

Oh and to stay on topic, i lost my respect for uw for taking our hills with no people on the map protecting it. (dont know if there were people or not but that doesnt matter for this obvious troll)

I hope for UW that this match up is better then the match ups from the season, allready saw some of those that i remember, even though there are not many left on uw…
Greets to sprg, war and gum.

Dzagonur you gave us a hard time yesterday in RoS, swat+bdv/nox were alot of people. And got to say to swat nice fights, your teamwork is good. Sorry for the turteling north of the south camp but we needed an advantage of the terrain, i think we had equal numbers but you had definetly more people in ts. ^^

Thanks to COP (not sure about the tag sorry i am kinda confused atm…) and SanG to the fights, exspecially the fight in quarry was very nice. Big shout towards you guys, the only AS guild that ran on their own (from what i saw).

Treszone.3897:

Artimes.9651:

Treszone.3897:

Agrios.9071:

Mr Quackers dont get frustrated, DEX is 10 people today and they build sup acs and ballistas to have it easier.

wtf is DEX ?

its the thing running behind you when you run into towers and keeps

you mean when running behind me with a blob ?

sorry but dex is for me not a good guildzerg, only a better randomzerg.

iam not really good, but 90% dexmember, has give me their lootbag, when they not run

but hey i hope surmia to ascend anyone in the silverleague and the whole bandwagonguilds transed on the next server, because they cant lose.
and DEX goes in the pve back and blobbing a round with the dragons

sorry for my english, but when anyone make cry, mimimi or talk bullkitten " we dont blob" , he can me write me a pm in german

We really appreciate your opinion even though we totally dont care about it. I have no idea where you get those “facts” from though. DEX allways tries to run alone we despise running with pugs since they can not follow us in combat. Yes we did some handholding in this match up since, as i said before, our numbers usually drop below 15 fast and it is not possible to fight a “organised and fair guild zerg” of your 50 (ofc they are all not on ts and from different guilds but it clearly is never a blob). When this happened, yes we were fighting with another 15 from LOOT or 20 from NP to have “fair” numbers. If you do some simple math now you will find out that 15+20 = 35 which is still is only 70% of the numbers your zerg has.

Just for your further information, you could consider DEX as a new guild with a few core members from an old one, we recruited people new to the game and new to WvW. We know that not everyone in DEX is an uber pro like you apparently are but our people try to work together and they try to improve theirselves.

My question to you is, where does this hate comes from?

Treszone.3897:

Agrios.9071:

Mr Quackers dont get frustrated, DEX is 10 people today and they build sup acs and ballistas to have it easier.

wtf is DEX ?

How should i know u tell me.
I hope you had fun while writing your question.
I nearly laughed…nearly…not.

Mr Quackers dont get frustrated, DEX is 10 people today and they build sup acs and ballistas to have it easier.

I dont get all these whining about blobbing and number from both RoS and Dz. We all know that coverage wins the matches and Dz does not have the great day-coverage that DL has.
The other point is, RoS has many guilds (mainly guilds) that fight during the prime time. In my opinions we should do better with the amount of guilds and with the handholding we do atm. On the other hand, it is impossible to take a keep with a 20 man guild zerg if you have siege everywhere inside and since there are no real challenges in this match up except taking your keeps we have to come with bigger numbers….

I dont like the idea of running close with other guilds all the time but atm we do it. And as i said if 3 organised guilds fight 1 big zerg it is obvious who wins.
On the other hand, Dz you give us better challenges then DL since your groups actually try to fight in open field.
I really wish we would have had the match up Dz-RoF-RoS, it maybe would not have been so one sided but it probably would be still unfair for the other 2 servers.

And just for your information about numbers, DEX never had more than 20 people online at the same time this week. The Reset is usually our strongest day but this one was horrible for us since half of our people were in extremly long queues or dc’ed a couple of times and had to wait then.

Before anyone complains about hacking, what happened at Sunnyhill was an accident, a few people glitched in when the gate was at 5%. We told them to go out again but some started to attack the npcs. There were in total 5 DZ that came when the gate was down, we were like 18. We would have gotten the tower with or without that glitch. Afterwards we again told the people how to act in such a case. We hope it will not happen again.

Nice Leap of faith with a staff then, impressive.

It does not even matter, this bullkitten happens but we cant change it.

dont insult people on the forums, you are the one that gets banned for that…

EB is not looking so good for you DL, but we still have 1 keep to take.

Got a queue there so we decided to clean up eb.

You do know that sPvP is all about getting a 2v1 or 3v2 situation while your other people manage to hold themselves against the bigger numbers.

I say it a bit different now. I hope that we get some fights not inside of a keep tomorrow. Your server only plays for objectives, thats ok but even your people have to get bored by that.

The poor thing is that even with these arrow carts DL looses most of the fights on open fields, as long as its not 2:1 in their favor.
Anyways thanks to NP for the great teamwork with you on RoS borderland, flipping all the t3 Keeps with was a hard but funny job and we managed that. Sadly this whole week is a joke since there are no nice fights with equal numbers except massive blob fights.
We had 1 (!) fair fight in 2 (!) weeks against DL, wasnt really hard for us, which probably is the reason why all DL-guilds team up with so many pugs all the time.
But since its effective they will continue with that. Great job of your scouts DL, we keep hearing that you use spys though. If it would be the case then its ridiculous but i dont really believe in that.

Still looking forward for fair fights, maybe tomorrow when they allready won the match up the guilds of DL run alone? Lets see.

You have too many breaks in your raid!!!

Beeing a commander myself id say having a good commander is as important as having people who can follow the commander.
But tell me why can we hold 3 keeps in your Borderland in the Primetime for hours without whiping a single time?
We upgraded your HIlls allready twice to a waypoint and we loose it when your nightcapping team outnumbers us 10 to 1.

And in an organised zerg the individual skill of your people does really matter. Just spamming 1 does not let you win a fight if your dont vastly outnumber your opponent.

I NEVER HAD A FIGHT WITH KISS TOGETHER.
:p

And i have to add the fact that our 60 man zerg will allways win against their 80 man zerg.