Guild Wars 2

Jumping puzzles are something different, keep them in, if you do not like them do not do them.

I was really enjoying this game but with that said.

It is a big let down when the match is close then you log on to out named buffs, own almost nothing on the map.

I do not have a clue how Anet could change the game to change the fact this happens in 90 percent of all matches, when all three sides are full it is great once one side out numbers the others it ruins the week.

I do not want to come off as a sore looser, it is worse to be the side that owns everything and I have been on that side as well.

Been a great match so far, hope everyone is enjoying the battles.

SoS EB has pretty much had a que since start, low as five high as an hour.

Bl’s on SoS this morning we were outmaned a lot, and very short to no ques on Bl’s most of the time.

Saerith.2015:

Dang, WvW doesn’t seem to be too active Saturday afternoon. I’m starting to get really worried about the long-term health of this game. It seems to be going the route of TOR – loses its early momentum and struggles to regain it.

Blame the players not the game, everyone is free to move around and make good matches or make really unbalanced ones.

There are plenty of people that will be around after the I wanna be on the number one server crowd is gone.

There are good matches now in the lower tiers and no ques.

TA is gone, HOD is dead, it was number one for what six weeks big deal in the long run.

If it makes you happy, pat yourself on the back and say your guild broke HOD, TA ran off and are hidding in their covers as you play the game.

Becuase everyone sees the past from their perspective, the TA guilds are always going to say we were 31-0 when we quit.

JQ is always going to say we were the only server that could take down TA and when we did they all ran off and stoped playing we beat them so soundly.

In a week or two or maybe even Six weeks you will find out talking in forums is more fun than playing on a number one server.

That is why Anet does not need to do anything about balance, the problem fixes itself.

The people who Enjory WvW will not all stay on the number 1 server it sucks no matter what the name of the server is working your way up there is the good part.

Finding good matches, good guilds to play with and against is what the long term players are going to always enjoy, not all jumping on one server.

I will bet the players who went from HOD to JQ will not be in this game in a month.

JQ is going to learn something that the old HOD players already know.

It is Zero fun being on the top server, it is either work or long Ques.

It is not fun when the masses of noobs show up only wanting to run around and say hey I’m awesome I’m on the number server in GW2

The whole time HOD was unbeaten people kept saying Anet do something Anet do soemthing.

The balance to this game is up to the players not Anet, 90 percent of the good palyers will not stay on the number one server, for the ten percent that do I truely do not envy the task you have to keep your server number one.

Where did ruin go?

Prototype.9852:

CC Dalmarus.8397:

Remember to keep it friendly and refrain from being rude or insulting your opponents in here folks.

Sorry I was a bit rude … Binafarus, why would you insult JQ three pages back and switch to JQ now…

I’m sorry if I offended anyone on here.

I have come to learn that JQ and I have the same goals in this game to be number one.

So I have joined JQ to help them out on their goal of being the best.

I hope my new brothers in arms and I can become good friends.

@proto I knew we would end up on the same side:)

Nobody gonna take our victory away from us.

Gotta go see if we can get HOD under 50 ppt like they are now

Now I know why u guys quoted everyone Proto deleted his post!

@Rivers HOD had 4 to 6 hour ques just over a week ago.

We have the outnamed buff in almost every BL the last two days, we did not even have ques in our BL’s the day of the server reset.

Most people have already left, I’m not the captain and not going down with the ship.

On top of that every time HOD faces ET they do whatever they can only to fight HOD.

JQ brags for a week how they are going to double team HOD with ET, you would think that would come an end since both servers out number HOD but it was still going on last night.

If JQ finds it is not a much of a match I dunno whos fault it is, clearly I’m not gonna stick around and get kicked around for no reason.

So I did what many others did I jumped ship to the winner instead of drowning.

So I do think I should get credit for helping JQ win probably more than many people that have been on JQ for a long time.

ET you know you can not win so why do you want to take part of our glory.

JQ will be getting the number one spot on the ladder next week while you are back in tier 2.

Hod has now seen what a real WvW server looks like.

Guess we all know who number one is now JQ is crushing HOD this week.

HOD is a ghost town, but I still can not be beat I moved to JQ today.

I will go down as one of the only players never beaten in GW2.

2nd and 3rd place server can keep the number one server under 150 points per tick all night long during prime time.

3rd server said all last week it was going to be the double team of the century this week and put 1st place server down.

3rd server puffs up chest says we don’t double team we are the best always have been that is why we are winning.

This is just a story all Real Server Names have been changed to protect their identies of the servers.

Please continue on like nothing has happened.

So JQ posting all last week HOD was going to see the double team of the century, I guess that did not happen either?

@Proto so lets look at your screen shot.

You think everyone reading this believes that the 2nd and 3rd ranked servers are so good without double teaming during prime time they can keep HOD down to 100 points a tick?

I think you show the biggest proof anyone that is actually not playing needs.

It is ok if you can not win a war on your own get someone to help you that is the way the game is made.

But saying it is not happening is truely funny.

Two servers are working together but it is ok…

HOD had the outmaned buff all Saturday in one of our BL’s

No Ques this weekend except for EB.

If you guys think that HOD outnumbers JQ you are only kiding yourself.

HOD short to no Ques, I hopes all the people who left will not come back.

Three teams is the best part of Guildwars 2.

To ET and JQ last night in EB, shame on you guys HOD does not even have ques.

Put HOD down to lowlands only for what 8 hours and take nothing from each other?

I do not blame anyone for tag teaming if they can not win on their own, but tag teaming one keep for 8 hours?

TA is gone, Ques are gone and you still scared of us?

30 – 0 if you can not beat us on the battle field least try to beat us on the forums.

Don’t forget watching peoples streams that is a good way to see what is going on.

That is part of HOD’s Blackopps team, I could tell you more but they might erase me.

Some guilds might be leaving very soon.

Maybe TA is having problems on HOD.

Urzen shows a screen shot of HOD’s mighty night capping.

Do not allow Free transfers to the top 50 percent of the servers.
Allow Free Transfers to the bottom 50 percent of servers.
Make one ladder NA and EU combined.
Give realm points like DAOC did, gives someone something to work for besides just the weekly match, and small bonuses you can purchase for your character like Daoc did.
Give Exp/Karma/Gold bonus in WvWvW to the ranked 3 server in each weeks match.
Allow no transfers between servers that are matched up.
Increase Guard strength at Keeps.

@ Sky

I’m glad we agree on one thing, if you put all four of my ideas to work it would make a better over all WvWvW game.

Not just for the top three servers but all of them.

I will agree to disagree about the 2 v 1 thing as I’m sure we both will not change our minds.

I’m getting tired of HOD too, but would not move to the number two server I think it would be fun to move much further down.

Talk to you guys later

@ Ped

I’m not giving you numbers I’m giving you an actual case of it last week ET and SBI vs HOD they were winning after four days.

They were mainly focusing on HOD but were still fighting each other some, if they would have divided all four maps in half and not gave up I feel they would have put HOD in third for the week and think most of SBI and ET players can see this.

I tossed out four solutions that would help.

I want some good competition.

@ Veles – yes HOD did recruit guilds so we would have a 24 hour coverage. I find it hard to believe we were the only ones that thought hey this is a 24 hour war for 14 days in order to win we need people that can fight around the clock.

Our numbers have grown greatly since the start though, by winning more people keep coming to our server.

I have never once acted like I was not from HOD, I want some good competition.

I offer up ways to fix the problem not just argue.

NO transfers to the top 20 percent.

Combine the EU and NA ladders, more servers will end up with 24 hour coverage.

It is a three way match the bottom two should tag team the top one, this is the players fault if they are not currently doing this.

Give the bottom 20 percent servers a Gold/Karma/Exp buff.

If you do not want a 24 hour war then WvWvW is not for you.

@ped if you beat someone down over and over they tend to quit showing up, so it gets easier to beat server C and more people come to your server to help.

Last week ET and SBI were ahead after four and a half days and said they were not even teaming up on HOD.

HOD passed ET and SBI both in Prime Time NA, it was not in the middle of the night, granted we gained ground during the night.

It seems if they would have kept it up HOD would have lost last week, beat them a couple weeks people transfer to your server and now your the one that has the advantage.

As you always point out to me this is a talk about how to fix things where more servers can be competitive.

I offer up combine the EU and NA servers as the best solution and second best is the number 2 and 3 teams in the matchup tag team the number one.

Third don’t allow transfers to the top 20 percent of the servers.

Fourth give a buff for Exp/Karma/Gold to the bottom 20 percent.

As far as tools TS, Vent, Mumble just make a joint one between the servers that are tag teaming, divide the maps up in half and get after it.

There is a lot of fighting besides the top three servers in Guild Wars 2 these solutions will help at all levels.

Veles with your example A & B just need to wipe C off during their play times to help even things out.

I really think making ONE ladder will fix a lot of the problems, mixing the EU with the NA will give more servers 24 hour coverage.

There is no way to make war 100 percent fair but mixing the different play times will help balance out more servers.

For all the people that think when they are not playing the other servers should not be able to score points this has no chance of working.

SPvP works that way, but a war that last two weeks you really can not pick times that fighting does not count or counts less.

Make one ladder instead of two would help as well.

@Sky no ques on HOD is happening as well that does not mean there are not people that would WvW it only means people are not.

Do not allow transfers to the top 20 percent pop servers.

Give a buff for karma/gold/exp on the bottom 20 percent.

Ever thought maybe the night players sit around and say man it is not fair they Day Cap our forts and towers every day.

I dunno how you guys expect Anet to fix the fact that some servers are better than others.

It is part of any competition there are winners and losers.

No Ques on HOD most of yesterday.

Maybe some people left to other servers.

Least lets give two week fights a try they might help even things out.

Zireael you can send me all the pms you want;)

I doubt anyone could send me a PM that would make me feel any different about myself.

Part of winning is hearing why it is not fair anyways.

I post here to let Anet know there are people who like it the way it is, and remind them this is the game they said they were making.

If they lose all the hardcore people this game will be done soon, as this game has a higher than normal percentage of hardcore people.

Zireael – I know I’m the minority.

Anet made a game that was made for the minority like me, it is what they said they were making.

I think Anet will stick to the game they made, one thing about the minority if they like a game they play it for a long time.

Another good thing about the minority they do not mind spending money on their character if it makes it better, cash shops offer that as well.

A lot of casual players have already left or did not buy this game in the first place becuase it was built up to be a 24 hour war that never ends.

Zireael -We see gaming different which is ok there are lots of games out there.

I started playing Quake 1v1 and 4v4 played fps for a long time very competitive, and have been on very competitive teams ever since then, just do not do FPS anymore. If I do I play them casual.

I can go months without playing any games, very few games come along with this ruleset and hate to see Anet mess it up, this game was built up to be a game like it turned out to be.

I did not even play but one character in beta and got it up to level 10, did not want to play the game any more than I had too before release.

To say you know you would beat me in a game while by the only means to judge who is best in the game have me ahead of you is more than I would every say.

Maybe if your competitve but do not want to build a 24 hour team, you can still do SPVP in this game to show how good you are.

Zireael I do understand your point of view and see why you want things changed.

I think a server that plays to have fun should have the ability to do so, but do not think they should be considered the highest ranked server in the game.

Servers that should be number one are a bit crazy and have no sense of balance.

Very few games come out that have this rule set I have been looking forward to this for a long time, it is not really for the casual gamer which is the larger market.

Zireael did not mean to type your name wrong meant no offense.

Here are some of the things any guild can do to have a chance at being number one.

Require your members to que when online for WvW.
Don’t allow alts everyone get on their best toon to WvW.
Staying up when you need sleep in order to win.
Getting up early to play when you do not feel like it.
Recruiting players that can play when the main part of your guild is not on.
Maybe having to change servers to even out que times for 24 hour coverage.
Understanding Casual players have no place in a guild that wants to be number 1.
Double teaming the server above you in order to win.
Do not allow jump puzzles in your Warzones, everyone is there to win not screw around.
Use your money and tokens for siege and upgrades.

If you want to be number here are the things you have to deal with.

Sitting in Que when you want to play.
Playing later than you want too in order to win.
Everyone following someone elses directions even if you do not agree.
Having the majority of players think you win becuase the rules do not favor them.
Having players and guilds join your server that do not feel as strongly about winning as you do.

@Zireal

I do get it but that is the way the game works, the people who started on HOD knew the rules and did what it takes to be number 1.

Your server knew this at the start too, not my fault we did a better job than you guys did getting ready for it.

We have many many coatail players now beat us a few weeks and they will come to your server, problem fixed.

When ET and SBI was double teaming HOD last week you guys had us last place after four and a half days.

Then you guys let up, stoped double teaming, got tired of playing not really sure what happened and let us come back and win.

I thought it was great someone was putting us in our place and showing us we could be beat.

Do it next week and HOD will have its first loss, do it a couple weeks in a row and part of our population will leave and join your server.

This is how a three way battle is suppose to be, the players can fix this problem Anet needs to do nothing.

@Kazim

If that is what you think that is cool, everyone never agrees on anything in this game.

I know that being number one on the rankings only means one thing to me.

We scored more points than everyone else, dunno why that is so hard to understand.

@Pedrst

I think I’m bring more useful information than anyone on this discussion.

Everyone here joined a game that has set rules how to score and how to win.

The people that lose want to change the rules, I do not want the rules changed so you want me to go away.

SB DAOC which I thought were two of the best WvW games handled this problem the exact same way, it was for the players to work out how to win they did not change the rules to let the weaker teams win.

@Kazim

North American World Rankings
2143.02 Henge of Denravi

I think the being at the top of the list means your number 1

I also think having the most points mean your number 1

I’m pretty sure Anet made the rules, created a ladder, gave points to the servers and it is very apparent to me HOD is at the top.

I find it hard to believe anyone can think that does not prove HOD is number one.

I know in todays world many people blame others when they get beat but it does not change the facts any.

mangarrage.1062:

Let us not not confuse population and 24/7 coverage with being the best server. And really that’s the whole point of the discussion.

HOD is the best server all you have to do is look at the rankings.

There are set rules, there is a ladder that has a set way to score on it.

To say they are not is just silly.

If’s And’s and But’s do not count on rankings.

In Daoc I was in a small guild that was number 1 on our server, Midgard was the weakest on our server.

Our guild deleted our toons and moved to Midgard in the end we were the highest ranked guild on the server, the second highest was our old guild that we left.

You will see some of the better guilds move off of HOD, but right now it is real hard to move when everyone says you should not be number 1, it makes you want to stay and keep beating them down over and over again.

There is only one way to be the best and that is to beat the top server, if you need rule changes to do this you are not the best.