Guild Wars 2

Would be great if also sent them to Oceanic players who didnt get a chance to participate..

Or is it just due to wintersday speculation? Cos the last time I was underwater farming for them at southsun cove, I only see me and another guy around, and the ither guy wasnt a bot.. and the drop rate was horrendeous.

Ive bought my hardened leather sections already 2 days ago. Have you?

You keep mentioning hedge funds hoping the general public dont know what that is about and dont doubt your 3000 gold. That is basically just aggressive investment in everything, using every principle and technique. It does not refer to a specific technique used.
So what are you doing with cheap chocolate if you got 3000 gold, more than my estimated 2000 gold?
Why I keep saying it is cheap? Total supply of chocolate is at about 12000 pieces and before your posting it was valued at 13 copper. To buy up the entire supply of chocolate in the trading post will cost you merely 16 gold. And 16 gold pales greatly to your massive amount of 3000 gold.

Logun.5360:

Dude, I haven’t been making 25-40g every hour since I started playing. Surely I never implied that. I’ve spent tons of time building spreadsheets, often investing money at a loss just figure out returns/breakeven points, and then running numbers before my system started paying off. I didn’t start making the gold at this level until about 3 weeks ago. How much gold do you think I have?

In an earlier post you said you trade 1000 to 1300 gold daily. With some money as backup id say you got 2000 gold, as I did earlier. You are just market troll, making impossible claims. And your strategies sound childish, as do your attempts at personal insult.

Logun.5360:

Cymatoperior.5942:

Logun.5360:

Cymatoperior.5942:

Thats where you are still wrong. With the space you have wont it be better to use them to invest in something of higher value like powerful vials of blood instead of cheap stuff? Just like how rental works in real life, the space you have can be better utilized to store higher priced items instead of cheap ones to yield a better profit. Space still costs gold to ouechase afterall and is not free.

True in most cases but you’re forgetting a couple of things. 1) It’s easier to take something from 10c to say 1s than it is to take 1s to 10s. 2) Vials can be easily farmed, chocolate can’t. If I were to increase Vials to 10s tons of people would start farming them and I wouldn’t be able to handle the increased supply.

So that proves my point. You dont have that much gold as you claim.

How much gold do you think I claimed to have?

You claim to make 30 to 40 gold/hour on the average and 25 gold/hour on a bad day.

Logun.5360:

Cymatoperior.5942:

Thats where you are still wrong. With the space you have wont it be better to use them to invest in something of higher value like powerful vials of blood instead of cheap stuff? Just like how rental works in real life, the space you have can be better utilized to store higher priced items instead of cheap ones to yield a better profit. Space still costs gold to ouechase afterall and is not free.

True in most cases but you’re forgetting a couple of things. 1) It’s easier to take something from 10c to say 1s than it is to take 1s to 10s. 2) Vials can be easily farmed, chocolate can’t. If I were to increase Vials to 10s tons of people would start farming them and I wouldn’t be able to handle the increased supply.

So that proves my point. You dont have that much gold as you claim.

Thats where you are still wrong. With the space you have wont it be better to use them to invest in something of higher value like powerful vials of blood instead of cheap stuff? Just like how rental works in real life, the space you have can be better utilized to store higher priced items instead of cheap ones to yield a better profit. Space still costs gold to purchase afterall and is not free.
This is common knowledge and if you have already made thousands of gold you should already know this by now.
No wait, t6 blood is still too cheap for you. Shouldnt you be investing in lodestones?

And logan why would you invest in chocolate if the profits are only about 10 gold per 10000 pieces if you already have like 2000 gold? Shouldnt you be doing something more expensive?

LFk.1408:

I think I generally work in a market area that is less liquid than the one majorkong works in. I’m more tuned to factor my time into the equation (less time spent dragging 4 items in), and thus hunt for higher raw margins, despite less reliable movement and/or lower %margins.

Still, the concept is the same. Once you diligently map out inputs and possible outputs, it’s then just a matter of tracking value of each. gw2spidy does this latter job for me, and I attribute much of my profit to whomever runs that site.

I would say that an hour spent can yield anywhere from 2g (virtually nothing I posted sold) to 60 gold (virtually everything). But the key is to have faith that eventually, you will be able to move your product, and thus I cannot produce a reliable hourly figure. Sometimes it takes a busy weekend to move everything. Sometimes I have to relist things due to getting undercut, and the market suffering for that one item, thus forcing me to cut a loss.

The other thing I can say is not to underestimate the power of investments. I can give you a past example, as I would obviously not divulge my current strategies.

At one point in time, Ancient Bones could be bought for 14c. So I bought 10,000 of them. Why? Randomly? Tossed a dart? Take a look at risk vs. reward. The vendor cost of Ancient bones was 13c.

In other words, my entire risk for this particular move, was 1c per unit of item I bought, which translates to… yes. 1g. All I was putting on the line was a single gold, taking a gamble that one day, they would find a use for this crafting material which was, after all, a T6 material and relatively rare (only that people farmed the cursed shore relentlessly, raising supply).

So, to sum up, bet cost: 1g. Betting against: ANY of the (at the time) current trends being broken. Ceasing of CS farming. More uses for bones. Banning of bots, choking supply. Fast forward to today.

My advice to many of you is just this: keep your eyes open. Ask yourself what the total risk you are assuming is. Ask yourself what conditions could cause you to win your bet, and please, outside of the box of “Oh it’s halloween so suddenly, pumpkins!”. The best profit margins and lowest risk run counter to the current market trends.

If you can live with the risk, why not take it? If you think the example I gave above is a one time event, don’t be silly

That seems pretty one time to me. Once the market stablizes as the game matures and bugs are fixed as it is currently looking to do so,there would not be any more quick grabs like the ancient bone example you mentioned.
Also when prices of outputs rise, prices of inputs will without a doubt also rise because every of the hundreds of people camping at the trading posts are doing exactly what you are doing. So how you can actually make a profit larger than the same amount of time you spend farming is beyond me.

Of course gold to gem ratio will rise, and will even skyrocket. But will you need to exchange that many gems if a black lion key costs say one gem?

I play only on the weekends and for 2 hours on even weekdays because I have a job and I do a lot of workout. I only make money from farming and right now I got 134 gold.
And one and a half level 80s with a total of 2 maxed out professions.
And I have half a girlfriend so I go out a lot too.

Just like in real life, there will be some who strike the lottery, but the majority will win nothing.

The casino will always make more money than the gambler. Thats why even anet is selling chests. If you are honest to yourself and did a real calculation, you will find that you arent making as much money as the smart farmers.

Rare items prices have shot up 2 fold, from 14s to 28s now. If you seem to be making money from the MF you will soon not make much cos other people will also do the same and push raw material prices up. I farm cursed shore before the quests bugged the hell up and made lots of gold selling the rares I find to gamblers like you. Hell I even sell the bags I pick up cos I know you people love to gamble.

That is considered short term trading… long term trading is years. And the game is not even 4 months old.

Permanently reduce the gem cost of everything. Problem solved.
Ok id better explain. Right now the gem to gold ratio is high so less people will want to change gold for gems. On the other hand people paying real cash wont want to buy gems to exchange for gold because the gem to gold ratio is still not high enough for them. So the best way out for Nexon to make money and for the penniless players to continue to change gold to gems is to drop the gem cost of everything.
I doubt anyone wants to use real cash to pay for gems just to buy your chests and other items by the way, they’d rather exchange gems for gold. At least I would.

Anyway I did a quick mental calculation before I rebuked your 30-40 gold average an hour, for that to happen there should be high and predictable items to trade and there wasnt any at the moment and anytime in future. Plus you lose 15% of your selling price each time you trade making profit very minimal. Real stocks dont make you pay so much so you cant plat the trading house like you can a stock market.
It is possible to do only long term investment, but no way can you play it short term to make 30 gold per hour.

Logun.5360:

Cymatoperior.5942:

Ermmm you should be able to buy space at 600 gems a bank slot right? That is only like 7 gold and should be peanuts to you if you made that much…

I’ve already bought all my bank and bag spaces. But that’s only 386 spaces since I’m using 18 slotters right now. So even if I filled them all with chocolate I’d only be looking at a 45-50g return over a couple of days. I’m sure this sounds great but there are more profitable items out there that require bag space. I regardless to what some may think, I have no need to pump chocolate bars. It was easy to see what would happen after ArenaNet nerfed chocolate bar drop rates across the board. They did the same thing to oranges before chocolate and those are still going up. Supply for chocolate is going down while demand is steady.

http://www.gw2spidy.com/item/12229

Err you can buy new character slots and use the new characters to hold stuff?

I make 3-5 gold an hour farming Orr. Exotic drop quite often too.
More than normal people with full magic find, thats because I play an elementalist with lots of AoE to steal everyone’s frags LOL.

Ermmm you should be able to buy space at 600 gems a bank slot right? That is only like 7 gold and should be peanuts to you if you made that much…

You make 25 gold/hour on a bad day? You mean you never lose money trading?
Maybe you made a typo and you meant silver. 25 silver/hour on a bad day.

thanks amon. I bought it already and she can play. who needs moderators when you got community? lol

because i am buying the game from singapore, and she is going to access from panama, i am afraid the account might get suspended or something as a different IP address is logging into the game from a different country. That is why i am trying to seek clarification first before buying the digital copy if not i will be wasting my money.

This is regarding
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Can-I-buy-a-guild-wars-2-online-for-a-friend/first#post658295

Moderator. You have locked my topic without even giving me a proper answer. This is very rude of you and very bad customer service.

I was to buy my friend a birthday gift of Guild wars 2 and the fastest way is to buy a digital copy and give it to her because she lives in Panama and i live in SIngapore. Are you trying to say that buying friends games as a gift are not allowed? You don’t celebrate Christmas?

Please give my question a proper reply moderator or i will complain to your higher ups.

Hi, I’m from Singapore and I’d like to buy a digital copy of guild wars 2 for my friend in Panama. Can I know if there is anything I should watch out for or any extra steps I must do?