Guild Wars 2

Chamone.6890:

This is what you get for not shouting down every single “WAH WAH I WANT GEAR PROGRESSION AT ENDGAME” post that was posted on the forum over the past 8 weeks.

They are seeing those, seeing nobody disagree with them, and assuming that is public opinion.

It’s pretty clear from everyone’s responses here that we DONT want gear grind.

Well that’s great, I don’t want it either, but we have to speak up against people asking for it in the forums and elsewhere otherwise Anet will give them it.

Play the game, enjoy it, but for god’s sake log on to the forums once in a while to say that you like it the way it is and please don’t change it. If you don’t, stuff like this happens because the vocal minority have a powerful voice.

One romp through the zones of the game and it will tell you this is what the players want. I don’t know what the people that are complaining about this are doing. But, if it’s Plixx you are all hypocrites. Of course, that is what I’m doing, because there is no one else doing anything else, period (to a significant or consistent degree)

Adrathan.2048:

If you introduce a stats upgrade i will leave this game definitively with no regret.

THESE SHOULD BE THE GAME UPGRADES:

-Introduce New Stat Mixes should be fine

-introduce a daily Spvp balance as GW1

-change this stupid Spvp sistem and half this damage. A flurry of damage is not skill that can be see only in a long fight

-introduce a bar showing the target using skill and the cast time progression

-introduce a cast time for each skill, istant skills are for WoW newbie casual pvp

-Introduce a WvsWvsW sistem that empower server players with less presences in the map and linearly rewards Keep/Tower/Camp maintaining in the time. This will avoid some impossible WvsWvsW matches.

-Introduce Bar brawl and other mini games as pet fight

-introduce guesting for PVE

-introduce new Pve mechanics like Weather and terrain

Imho these are game improvements, armor stat upgrade should belong to another game. A different Pve infused Jewel and Rune to farm a Mursat dungeon should be fine. Among PVE, Jewel, rune and Mursat Dungeon the world PVP is missing.

Nothing you are saying here is improving or pushing the PvE experience foreword. I don’t 100% concur that what they are doing is the best thing in the world, but it is SOMETHING. At least giving something for PvE folks to do that is not craft legendary items.

Yamiino.1827:

Wiggles.6248:

i love how a large group of people complained there was nothing to do end game (apparently), so they gave everyone something to do… now no one wants to do it???

My game was fine, I still have A LOT of things to do in this game, sorry for those that claim that they finished the game in a week, but they havent, they just can’t think of a better thing to do than farm in Orr…

Such as run through empty zones and do jumping puzzles. Roger.

Aerocell.5762:

The funny thing is that the vocal minority that wanted this change is already back to playing WoW.

Have you been in game? Where are the countless people running any but a select few DE’s? Being that there are only two level 80 zones, only one of which ever has a significant population involved with it. There is dungeon matchmaking in Lion’s Arch again making the world feel rather dead. None of this is what the Manifesto professed either, it was time to move forward. If it is a minority why do 1000’s of players farm Plixx? ET, all.

Shanna.4762:

…Lol…ArenaNet mod deleted my post saying…

RIP Manifesto. Goodbye GW2 when the next big release comes around, because you completely eliminated a huge part of what made your game stand out.

They’re really trying to censor out the truth because they can’t keep a promise? It’s the truth, and they won’t even admit to it. That blog post was nothing but a commercial trying to hype us up for something we don’t WANT. ArenaNet PROMISED this would not happen with GW2 MANY times, you can find it in many pre-launch interviews, even post launch interviews. You can find it on the website in the videos section with the Manifesto videos. (Until they delete those, too ?) In Lions Arch, my guild of 480 people, EVERYONE is angry about this that I have seen.

What made it stand out is you get visual armor skins instead of a tiered system? Just this one fact. Quite clearly that’s all that’s left for some? I guess everyone is out doing jumping puzzles in their end game gear? This is their response to the game needing an endgame and the demand for it. IT’s a new level 80 zone with a new dungeon for folks sick of running the same event chain over and over again. There is plenty there for folks who want to play the way they were.

Tommyknocker.6089:

Yes, players wanted something to do at endgame., but this wasn’t it. Please just add content; many more DE’s, dungeons, landmasses, jumping puzzles etc. etc. to the game. Many of us have what we concluded was our final equipment and could now enjoy what was to come this is not what we wanted to come. BTW LotRO had a similar “radience” gear they scrapped because it was not only confusing but tended to make the elitist segregate the casuals. Please don’t do this to the game I prefer my MMO experience to be a friendly one.

So a jumping puzzle with 2 greens is what you consider end game? DE’s have a very limited appeal and end up just being min-maxed and there are very few chains even being run on most servers. (pre-event chains, plixx, etc) They never said that those other things would not be included. They in fact in no way indicated with the exception of this dungeon would you need this new gear.

People really want their ‘final’ gear.?!..So we can log in and /dance at the statue. I’m so lost. That’s all anyone was doing in GW1 when I logged in. That game is still there, people can go play it (and its still free!) This game doesn’t need to be that game. And design philosophies change based on what the user base is doing. And the user base is not running the DE chains in every zone. How many posts do we see saying ZONES ARE DEAD. They are.

Any given night you have some running dungeons, some in WvWvW, and a lot of folks at dragon chains or Plixx. That is it…Underwater? dead. Straights of Devastation, forget it.

I just don’t get what the people want that are arguing against this. They want more jumping puzzles that give cruddy rewards (for the record I love jumping puzzles, but the rewards are all out of wack.) More dungeons with different token grinds for yet another set of armor that does the exact same thing? I’m just not sure how that is fun.

I just feel like the reality of what is going on in the game and this mythical manifesto we are holding the game too never existed. It did for the 2 weeks people were leveling to 80 and then the zones emptied out. Plainly.

Horizontal progression for different skins wears thin for a lot of people. I don’t really understand why you wouldn’t want a new zone with more things to strive for and a cooler dungeon. I DONT log in right now because Plixx is all there is to do if you want to PvE. This may be due to the fact that people won’t spread out and play the game the way Arena Net plays it.

Arena Net realize few are spreading out and playing the game as intended and are reacting as opposed to having a proactive plan. The damage is done, though, the zones are dead. Most people are in Plixx or WvWvW. World completion is extremely annoying due to lack of mob reduction

People are clamoring for progression, people are getting legendary weapons quicker and quicker. Halloween was a success despite the QQ. So instead of strictly a lottery, they are now rewarding skill and offering true progression (remember the whining in that HUGE thread..) but now all of sudden.." But your Manifesto said…"

Look, the game goes live, the realities happen. These guys are responding (well I think) on the fly. They are adjusting to what gamers want here. There is a vocal minority that are screaming “BUT …the MANIFESTO” , however, stepping into the game tells a different story. Plinxx is always on farm the rest of the zones sans starting areas and Lion’s Arch are crickets.

I can tell you I have a full set of exotics and they are extremely accessible and will likely be all that is required for the new dungeon. So…relax? If you don’t have a full set of exotics you aren’t trying. I haven’t had the top tier gear set in a game for 10 years. I have less than 300 hours logged in. I am one of the more casual in my guild. I used 240k and 10 gold and got a set of exotics. I don’t see how a new item tier effects you when you haven’t managed to get something that is rather accessible…So then don’t go after the ascended set. Whom cares?

It sounds fundamentally like the PVP vs PVE crowd to me. I can’t speak for all of us PVE’rs but I can tell you it is extremely snoozy and end game is thin. Haloween made me believe in this live team and these events are the only thing that will keep PVE entertaining. the +2 to Constitution I get on one piece of gear is not going to effect your precious WvWvW so please relax.

Most people pursuing this gear aren’t going to WvWvW…I do it for my monthly its novel. GG. If you want balanced pvp you have SPVP which will only ever be cosmetic…so enjoy.

It really is Pre-emptive QQ’ing over someone having a razor thin advantage over you in WvWvW…you guys can have it. I’ll be in the 10 man dungeon getting my Ascended gear on.

As far as the Manifesto goes. Anyone play The Secret World, Ultima Online, World of Warcraft? SW:TOR? Hell Fable? These games fundamentally changed from their initial vision. It is a business, you monitor the activity of your user-base and you make a decision. I’m not saying that they are perfect by any stretch, but it is not hard to see that when a ton of your population are in 3 out of 100’s of maps it is time to move forward.

So let them move forward, or you could play something else and not pay a monthly fee? Come back after the update? Come back for Christmas while still not paying a dime?

I don’t know. Lack of vertical progression (or progression period) is where games go to die of this genre. period. I don’t care about 20 different sets of skins. I want new areas, new Level 80 content, and properly handled gear acceleration, possibly even trait or skill development or an AA system.

All you have to do is explore the vast empty world to realize that the game needs more zones. (its like the republican V democrat maps…all of the population is in a few areas…)

They should make tumbleweed gather-able in all areas of low population, it would be like the new candy corn.

Yikes.

People are so quick to leave if one thing doesnt go our way? I actually think another tier of gear ie fine…and it will only be needed to progress further into the dungeon. Are you really all this upset that we will have something new to do that isnt plinxx? How about wait for more details? I wonder how many peoole that are QQing posted things stating there was nothing to do in this game and they were going to quit. I for one say thank god for this new content endgame is stale.

Theik.9340:

I’m in a guild with 4 friends, and while we’re all skilled players with level 80 characters, that doesn’t really mean much when you want to take a castle with 100+ people defending it.

That’s the thing that’s not really how the game was designed (or most MMO) You can play with 4 of your friends but you will be at a disadvantage…That may be the root of your problem here. It can be done but will require making more exceptions to your play style due to not having the resources of a bigger guild.

Corian.4068:

Stop being afraid and do it. Eat the deaths if you need to.

Everyone’s okay with repeated dungeon deaths, or repeated jumping puzzle deaths, but dying even once in PvP is somehow magically worse than all of that?

Hop to it, man. Or grab all those friends you’re so loath to leave and knock the map stuff out together. You can fix this yourself, you’re just afraid to.

This is a fair statement with a qualifier of you would need to be in a guild that will support you and has an active base. If you are not then finding such guild would be advisable. I think the problem with this game is that many people are so busy doing things for themselves because of all of the grind treadmills; they forget that their teammates or guild mates may need help with something like this. I’d say this is my overall biggest turnoff to GW2.

Theik.9340:

Yup, I have a problem. I’m stuck at 97% map completion, and there’s pretty much nothing I can do about it. It’s the sad tale of a guy who loves to explore, but can’t actually finish it.

But Theik.9340, you must be missing something!
Why yes, I’m missing 29 points of interest, 17 vistas and 1 skillpoint.

See? You’re not stuck! Hooray! Just find out where they are!
I know where they are, I can tell you exactly.
I am missing 7 points of interest and 6 vistas in one WvW borderlands, 6 points of interest and 5 vistas in another borderlands, and 16 points of interest, 1 skill point and 6 vistas in the eternal battlegrounds.

So you even know where to look. Go get them and be done!
I wish I could, but hey. Apparently the game has decided that because I am on a server with a low population count that has been getting butchered in world vs world since before I even joined the server, I am not worthy of a 100% exploration.

It’s not that I do not know where the points of interest or the vistas are, heck I can walk right up to the gate. It’s just that I can’t get to them because my server never actually controls the buildings they are inside.

For instance, there are 4 points of interest, a vista and a skillpoint inside stonemist castle. I’ve never once seen us own stonemist castle, and considering I have had the outnumbered buff and been spawncamped at my own base several times when I went there, I can fairly safely say that my server is never going to own it either.

The Been There, Done That achievement states “Seeking Zhaitan’s corruption in every corner of Tyria”, and quite frankly, I have. The World vs World area is clearly not listed on the Tyria world map and there’s nothing there that suggests Zhaitan even know it exists.

So why is it that I am being punished for being on a low-population server for this achievement? I’m perfectly fine with the fact that we will never control the entire map, I’m okay with the fact that I’ll never max out the “King of the Castle” achievement, but I do want to finish my exploration achievement.

So what exactly is it arenanet expects me to do?

Map transfer to a server that owns everything, then wait a week before I can actually play with my friends again?

Be one of the kittens who ruins the game by hacking, so I can actually get over the walls to get the points of interest?

Perhaps convince that Charr who fires cows all day to lend me his cannon so I can shoot over the walls?

This is why I don’t understand when people say Map Completion is one of the easier parts of the Legendary process. I’d say Farming Karma is completely easier. You can repeat the same run, do monthly, etc. What can you do if you can’t get to a WvW point? You server transfer. Which is the solution here apparently.

I actually find Map Completion with the dead newbie/lowbie zones, and the WvW piece to be one of the more challenging aspects of the Legendary process.

Arent goodbye threads against message board TOS?

kiranslee.4829:

The problem is EXACTLY this what you said – u got 2 rare items in 6 runs. Many other ppl who did it 10-20-30 times got nothing but trash. That is problem. Problem is that lvl 5 player who dont know anything about event login , join random party and gets 2 rare items worth almost 100g.
That is problem why ppl are pissed on Anet . They dont give a …… about effort, they make everything RNG.

For the record, I ran it 40+ times …got arachnophobia early. Nothing much after…also tons of blc and MK with nothing…ill run it 40 more, best chest in game.

Cerise.9045:

Aelaren.3784:

If I could use it myself (both chainsaws, shield, staff, heavy shoulders) – I`d use them. If not, I`d probably transmute it for an alt. The only thing I`d sell would be something out of a full set that I dont have all items for.

I would have been happy with just a second book backbrace if it was upgradeable (I can`t seem to be able to put embellished jewel on it) or with the slot bag if it had at least the same slot count as the ones I am using OR was account-bound instead of soulbound.

Event itself was hands-down the best event I experienced in my 10 years of playing different MMOs. Event rewards are, well, maybe not THE worst, but definitely somewhere in worst 3.

I’m curious what had worse rewards now. I’ve actively played close to a dozen different MMOs and never seen anything that felt like such a kick in the shins for participating in events.

To play devils advocate, what game had an event where you could get an item from it worth the equivilant of 30 GW2 gold? Most of WoWs stuff was garbage….so garbage rewards for all? Or make it so common its 6 silver on the TP?

Aelaren.3784:

If I could use it myself (both chainsaws, shield, staff, heavy shoulders) – I`d use them. If not, I`d probably transmute it for an alt. The only thing I`d sell would be something out of a full set that I dont have all items for.

I would have been happy with just a second book backbrace if it was upgradeable (I can`t seem to be able to put embellished jewel on it) or with the slot bag if it had at least the same slot count as the ones I am using OR was account-bound instead of soulbound.

Event itself was hands-down the best event I experienced in my 10 years of playing different MMOs. Event rewards are, well, maybe not THE worst, but definitely somewhere in worst 3.

Potential rewards were outstanding….the problem with this game is everyone gets rewards for everything. The sheer amount of loot that drops for all is mind-boggling. It makes odds tough on RNG because to keep it rare with that much loot you have to meter that…but then you get lots happy anfld lots unhappy…not sure what the answer is. I dont think its tokens. That system is in place for other types of rewards.

^ keep trying its worth it

Aelaren.3784:

All I wanted was to get something halloween-related to remind me of the event. I don`t really care for “normal” loot drops, I can always get those from Plinx runs/Jump puzzles/whatever.

What I got so far:
- 1 useless backbrace (low stats)
- 1 backbrace I cannot put an embellished jewel in (worse then storyline one)
- 0 halloween skins (20 BLC, 10 MKC, hours of participating in different events plus MK dungeon runs)
- 10-slot SOULBOUND halloween bag (at 80 I have 18-slot bags on main, I could have used it on a storage alt but it is soulbound, and I can`t waste my limited bank slots on a thing I`ll never use)
- about 1000 candy corns that I will never use to craft food, because food from candy corn is actually more costly than the same-stat food without it, even if you dont equate the price of corn itself (cue: peach tart/glazed peach tart)
- halloween-related mats that are only good if you are prepared to dump enormous amounts of extra money to make something from it (cue: halloween exotic weapons for the price of legendary)
- 70-ish Mad King Slippers with a visual of standard item
- some halloween tonics that`ll be gone after a couple of brawls…

Have I missed anything?

So had you got the skin or exo you wanted…would you have just sold it like everyone else? Im keeping mine.

Also, it is up to that person I think selling is fine but there are dozens of each for sale at all times. I am just kind of calling B.S on people wanting these for anything other than flipping.

Keiran.1896:

Games shouldn’t be about luck.

/boggle….There are many things that are skill based in GW2…but like most MMO there is a luck aspect. Doesnt pen-and-paper D&D have a luck stat. Opening magic card packs is random. RPG in general have a mechanic like this.No there is no DKP system in this game (thank god) There are plenty of token grinds to be had that arent RNG.

Satans Chosen.1024:

I am gonna hold on to it for a little while to see if it will be upgradable (or have some other use) at some point. Otherwise, I will do what Toshi did and trade it for 22c.

I have Mad King Custome and minipets to commemorate this holiday; I don’t see any reason to waste an additional slot to keep something that’s practically useless. 12-slot bags are so cheap and easy to make that I can instantly supply any alt with four or more starting at level 1.

As for the dungeon… Quite unchallenging compared to almost every other dungeon in the game. 30 min after the event started, numerous players on my server already claimed they had soloed it.

It is not new end-game content it is a level 2 instance…This is a holiday event. IMO people that are soloing this are terrible min-maxers…and are missing a great farming opportunity..Chest is great probably the best one in-game. To my knowledge there is no achievement attached to soloing this content, so it is strictly to troll. Who cares if someone solos it? Run it with four 80’S as fast as possible to get the most loot. This has to speak to peoples sensabilities, no?

Shirahama.3491:

sorry but i’m not that very happy.
first it wasn’t normal that special event item can be selled, if you partecipate and try, good, if not you cannot buy like some candy.
say so i tried with the last remaing of my gem buyied when the price was really lower to buy key, 30 of it and nothing coming out, so why i want the skin i buyed in the tp, and now you going to say that the price is gonna falling completely.
i don’t think is right for the people that really invest some real time to buy the skin.
i spend 30 gold for the greatsword 10 gold for the shield and 19 for the schyte at the iper very first, and now the price is gonna be way lower if everybody that have stacked previously boost craft the mystery tonic and get a new chance.
it fell like i wasted 60 gold!
and i tough of reselling coz the price was getting good, but now al the investiment is wenting to the flush.
i know that most people are happy, but me that i grinded gold like crazy and invest in some “special event object” that it was staying just for a limited time, (and first hand i understood the difficult to get them) now i’m riped off, of all my time playing game and money.
i need to sell them now or take them and go with them remembering that if i yell and complain, maybe an gonna do something for me.
most people are happy but i’m really not.
kinda angry!

p.s people who tried with 30 keys seeing the gem price at 1 gold for 100 gem means 27 gold. i though better have the security of have it than spend other 27 gold. for me thanksfully the first 30 key was with old gem but i think a lot of people tried this way, so why now people who invest money are going to be let down, if i complain like all people did i gonna receive something?
p.p.s it was stupid of me investing in an event not knowing the normal beheavor of area net! if i know that they will patch everytime the difficult stuff, i just need to wait to get easier!

Oreoz.2573:

Wanna know something ironic?

I lost 30 bucks. You can see me throughout the first 10 pages of this thread putting in my two cents about it.

So I farmed candy corn. For hours.

Guess what.

I’m now the proud owner of the ghastly grinning shield.

:)

^ this. pretty much. Chests were not meant to be the only thing in this event; they were focal because they require no effort other than purchasing a key. (or some cheap chests off of the TP) So I don’t know, people wanted something for nothing (or rather cash for instant gratification) and lost. I don’t believe that Anet handled this great, but let’s be honest if you spent $100’s on this, you have to take some responsibility!

Rainfall.4017:

@buzzkapow I can understand disappointment. But ‘not being fairly compensated for the money we invested’ ? I’m being totally serious. This is what happened. Whether their policy was right or wrong, you and everybody else invested money in ‘A chance to receive a special skin from a black lion chest’.

You can’t base an argument on what you and everybody else assumed they meant. You don’t have a leg to stand on in this matter. The reason is, you obviously either assumed it would be a high drop rate(why did you do that), or you were sceptical which begs the question why go ahead with the purchase.

You and everyone else, again, used your money for a chance to receive a skin. So that means you knew that, normal chest contents aside, you would either get a skin, or not.

So now the skin doesn’t drop, and we have incredibly angry people telling Anet they are dishonest, greedy, etc. Looking at this rationally and logically, Anet did nothing wrong, and you made the purchase. Could Anet possibly revise the chest contents to add fillers? Yeah sure they could, but they did not, and you still bought the item in full knowledge you only had a chance. There is no basis to complain for not receiving a skin because you did not pay for one.

My thing is you open 5 and get nothing haloweeny, I would be like OMG this is bugged and stop. Or I would go to the forums and check with others, why on earth would you crack 50+? Wait a minute this chest is not giving me anything but the usual stuff, I probably should stop buying keys. Buying 1 I get , buying 5 I get, anymore than that you have to fault yourself and not Anet, IMO.

I do think they should compensate folks that bought over a certain amount of chests with something. (tokens?)

Theta Zero.9023:

Im not saying the items aren’t great; Hell, Im debating on buying black lion keys (or rushing to 80 and trying my luck at map completion) to go for that Greatsword. Im glad they put so much effort into so many items!

Im just suprised that the requirements for so many of these items benefit the players who have extrodinarilly large cash pools. I could see 1 or 2 items angled at maxed players, but more than half? And the lion chest items are completely unobtainable without luck (assuming you’re trying to obtain things on your own, through natural gameplay, rather than buying your way to success).

Having some “elite” rare items is cool, but my question to the developers is, why so many?

It really didn’t though for the BLC stuff. Most of the people complaining actually spent tons of gold trying to get these chests.

My problem is the crap that drops off of mobs in the game in general is completely useless vendor trash. I think that’s a bigger problem than cool new event stuff. More world drops plz.

MikeRocks.9243:

Doggie.3184:

Those superior runes look pretty cool tho. Wonder what that raven effect looks like with Dagger Storm. c.c

Raven effect? O.o

Yeah if you can find one on the TP it’s a rune of which the sixth skill: launches ravens when you do your elite, (paraphrasing)

It is safe to say this game isn’t for casuals, I think that proves it. I’m not sure if this is good or bad. But hell, playing 20 hours a week is casual these days in an MMO, so hell if I know. I don’t even have full exotic karma yet (almost) and just made my second mystic pistol. I am considered a casual by most of my guild, so the problem is when you have so many people with so much time on their hands (BLC aside) you have to set the bar high or they would literally be everywhere.

I think there is still plenty fun to do, and this is just the first act, so I’d say give it time. I’d also say that others would have been better suited waiting on pulling the trigger on chests.

FalconDance.1637:

@Rickets

Just a thought, but this event goes on for a week or so. We already know that content will be added periodically specifically for this event all that while. Why would anyone spend all their money on the first day and then decide that, because they didn’t get what they expected (‘cause we all know that the odds are always in our favor and not anyone else’s), Anet is obviously greedy and uncaring about their customers. I’m sorry, but that sort of attitude is childish; gimme what I want, what I expect or I’m going to raise holy smoke and take my toys home forever.

Now, not that I’m accusing anyone here of this, but coming from 7+ years of GW1, I know that there are those who rush in, essentially grab up/buy the special goods as soon as possible and then re-sell, driving up the market prices. Perhaps Anet took that into consideration (it is a valid idea) and deliberately drizzled out the chance rate so that wouldn’t happen so soon. I don’t know – and neither does anyone besides the developers – what the actual percentage is, but apparently there are individuals who have opened chests and received special goods since there are apparently ones for sale.

Heck, I’m reading 17 pages (just this thread alone) of people griping and griefing – and I was tickled pink today to get really good armor drops on my girls and gleefully looked forward to finding pumpkins to carve, candy corn nodes and trick-or-treat bags fall from foe.

Pretty much this. While I agree that the advert on BLC is misleading at best (why not have common, rare and epic BLC drop: 1 in 10, 1 in 50, 1 in 1000, etc…) I do truly think it sucks that people are expecting halloween goodies and get nothing but the same old stuff is bad. Why not have the minis skins and others drop. Make the booster icons black and orange? I dont know’ something … it is pretty lazy.

That said, people didnt wait to hear feedback before diving in and got burned…They are uoset because

-they cant zerg the skins and turn a profit off the auction house
-poorly thought out investment
-due to RNG they cant use a huge wealth pool to get all the good stuff first…and show it off. Clearly, that is the point of the recipies — which require tons of resources only the harder core will get them —BLC gives everyone a shot regardless of time (aka the purpose of a cash shop)

A majority of the people crying about it are min maxers or TP flippers…I feel bad for those that bought 20 chests for the right reasons and got nothing …this system needs to be redone but not so the 2% of the game that sell dusk for 350g can do that with chest items and get richer…..my 2.

Have you seen Quip? Yuck. The only pistol that is worth it is the Mystic pistol…in my opinion…I was not holding out hope for a decent one on this release

AcidicVision.5498:

zKarp.6048:

Starts the 23rd. PST

Incorrect. People have gotten and screen shot-ed the drops already. Its just a stupid low drop rate. Someone uses a key they got from story completion and gets one, other people waste $50+ for nothing.

I mean the thing is, we know what BLC are. People said the same thing when the perma-vendors were released on how bad the drops were. ANet just said they were there, they did not make any concession that they were changing drop rates to coincide with people’s expectations. There is also an entire subset available through crafting that is permanent, which is rewarding some in-game work. (instead of pay for instant lootz)

I don’t like it either, that said:

1. You could WAIT and read other’s feedback before purchasing anything. (like I did, sweet..) They never said they were limited time other than the event…this means you are probably into instant gratification which BLC never were.

2. You could go in-game (like me…) and work on finding the recipes for the perma ones (that will be resell-able)…

3. You can’t sell the weapons from them, so while you can’t ‘collect em’ all’ it makes way more sense for min-maxers and econo-freaks to go after the recipie items so they can corner the market after the event ends.

4. As for GW1 comparisons, team is bigger, game is a real MMO (with no sub fee…) I think it’s fine and if people jump the gun on it without research then I think you get what you deserve to an extent…what do you think is paying for this event — It can’t be a sub fee. The point is no one forced you to buy gems.

5. Just like lottery tickets, people will buy things for low return on investment. And despite the posts here, people will do it all over again the next time….once again without any research or thought.

I really think it is complaining for complaints sake. I understand people’s concern about gambling; I for one was expecting the BLC to be more of a cash grab than it currently is. There is not a subscription, and I love GW1 as well but it was a heavily instanced lobby game. They bumped their staff three-fold for this game, this is part of paying the bills for a game of this magnitude. Also with many games you cant buy the cash store currency with in-game currency. Given that option is in place I don’t see the QQ and arguing over symantics su h as a weapon skin being better or worse or a theme…people tend to anger for angers sake.

I have mystic pistol I Love it even has a nice particle effect

I like the Arah Karma set dyed midnight blue, shoulders are gaudy enough to make you stand out a bit. Easier to get than dungeon sets imo.

Great the OP is telling me how to post in forums, Arena Net is telling me how to play the game………stop telling me what to do!

engineer level 54, 10/10
…there are some issues b2p rocks my socks, and it runs 40-60 fps on my old dual core…game is beautiful also

I think OP is on to something with Orr…..I think in other areas …its fine. The problem with a flightpath system and a huge open world is it wouldnt work for DE’s…people need to be able to find each other..I would say that maybe the price for travel could be reconsidered..mounts ill pass on

I’m assuming since these aren’t ‘pay to win’ chests that the items they can contain are limited to gem store items….I beleive this to be where the flaw is with it. Or they need to expand what the chests contain and what the Gem Store offers…