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Why WvW is unbalanced (a rather longish explanation)

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I think the people saying the orb bonus is ok are not getting it imo. My server got crushed last week (IOJ) and this week we’re absolutely dominating which was fun for a few days but now I feel bad for the other side because I know exactly how being dominated feels. And that was caused by some of the things the OP say but most of all the orbs…we got all 3 early on and it was insanely easy to crush everyone with that…15% bonus to all stats is HUGE!!!

Earlier today I fought a 3 on 1 fight that I instigated and I killed one of them, downed another and MAY have won if more CD weren’t coming to help…so I ran away.

The point isn’t “im so super awesome” but “I don’t never think to do that without the orbs”….it makes any 1 on 1 fight laughable…I beat 2 guys without using a heal or any skills between 6 and 0….and that’s not normal. When I have no orb bonuses…trust me I don’t pick on 3 guys at the same time.

So when your zerg meets theirs even if you’re slightly smaller you’re dominating that side because of the orbs…I felt bad for ET last night because we were doing to them what SBI did to us last week…and they never had a chance because we were so OP from the orbs.

Please use this build

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no offense but I would roll you so fast it would make your head spin. Base tougness? I have fought 40-50 eles in PvP and about that many in WvW and I have lost twice only. I remember that it was only twice because when I see an ele I know its insta win because seeminly people don’t understand synergy, math, game design and weaknesses/strenghts of a profession.

Logging out on downed State needs to be fixed.

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Well I guess we’ll see what AN says….if they don’t address this and the daily server switch fairly fast, I’m done with GW2 because I WvW exclusively. And don’t get me wrong, I WANT to continue playing GW2 but not in a toxic environment…in the end, its a game and I want to have fun. If AN lets things happen that make it not fun for me then I will not play…and maybe if they take them away, others won’t…so they need to figure out what is more profitable for them since they’re a business and I can’t and won’t fault them for trying to make money. So we’ll see what they think is the best move and I’ll act accordingly.

Again in the end it’s just a game and you can only get so upset; you just move on to another game, I hear they exist…

Downed state just isn't a fun PvP mechanic

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And to add more, it make zerging even better. If you have a good team, you can always revive people so fast the ennemies don’t have the time finish the downed player.

Revive, go back, heal, come back. That’s why zerg are really hard to finish.

That’s a good tactic. And if the other team is good, they’ll have somebody who can come in, knockback, drop some damage (possibly knock back again) and then get out of dodge and not only do your players not get rezzed, but you have taken damage and not put any out for a while….that’s what I love about WvW…reading the situation and trying to make the right moves at the right times to swing the whole battle.

Like a 3 man flank that downs 10 players before they even realize what’s happening, especially if they’re on siege…

Logging out on downed State needs to be fixed.

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I started doing it because I read it on the forum that it was possible. I feel like a trolling thief now. Thank you for allowing us to do this. I kite through a pile of mobs, as many players as I can get to chase me, and then log when I’m at 25%. Then I port back to the entrance after I log back in. I’m proud of it. P.S. My server has like 25% of the players on the other 2 worlds in WvW. What do you expect? Pretty much every class other than an elementalist becomes God in full crafted crit gear vs someone without it. Vit/toughness (karma/badges) is supposed to counter someone critting with every ability. How about no? Right now I can gank all kinds of people, and then when I’m out-numbered, I just leave. Thief can still reign supreme over logouts. It’s too fast. I haven’t been doing it on downed state. I don’t wait that long. Thanks for telling me I can do it then, too. Adding to repertoire.

Where did AN say you can/should do this? I’d love a quote or a link….because I read everything as “we’ll look at this and address it”. Be more strategic, don’t run into zergs, make groups, join a guild…but don’t violate the spirit and hopefully soon the rules of the game. And I say this as an elementalist.

Logging out on downed State needs to be fixed.

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Anet really can’t do anything about this. They can’t stop people from killing the process…

What do you mean? AN can absolutely stop this and it happens in many other games. You log out or completely disconnect, your avatar still stays in game for 10-20 seconds, you get the kill/loot and they get the penalty. I immagine AN will make it so at some point.

Game Improvement - Suggestions

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My suggestion is to make Karma relevant again. Right now you have 3 “currencies” you can get in game without using RL money. That’s karma, xp and gold. I hope I don’t have to explain why more gold will always be useful if you play this game long term. XP is also currency because you can use the skill points that gets you to craft mystics that you can sell for a profit so it’s actually a form of currency as well.

But Karma becomes absolete after a while unless you go for a legendary and even then the payoff is so late. AN moved more and more things (like armor from your order) from karma to gold….so now I’m sitting on like 500K in karma and have no use for it…I’m not complaining but then why even have karma at all? Just increase amount of gold rewards and then make everything gold. IMO, karma is really becoming worthless and its a bit frustrating because I saved up and thought I was going to get couple of armor sets and boom, now they’re gold only.

Logging out on downed State needs to be fixed.

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Oh I know why people do it…because we live in a society where more and more people don’t think they’re responsible for the consequences of their actions. “I’m not dumb for walking in solo to an area where I should logically epect groups of people that want to kill me, it’s that they’re meanies so I’ll rage log out and that’ll show them how not nice they are for playing the game as designed”.

That with a sprinking of “hey I lost fair and square but I’ve been getting a ribbon for a 7th place finish my entire life so I don’t know how to handle losing in a somewhat competative environment:”

Most of you are in denial, why?

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You specced for toughness and had 1800 toughness?! I have no idea what you’re doing. Are you sure you don’t mean 2800? If I go tank spec, I go Fire 20, Air 10, Earth 30, Water 10 and build the spec around signets and auras. I have ~2900 toughness and quite literally constant protection, fury, and swiftness. I deal moderate damage and take a very long time to kill. There are other specs which focus more on regeneration and do something similar.

Nico, I can’t quote right now for some reason. Can you elaborate on how you got 2800 toughness? Do you have base vit? I think base toughness is 900 with 30 in earith that gets you what 300 more right? So that’s 1200….so how are you getting 2800 with gear, runes, accessories and weapons? TIA

Logging out on downed State needs to be fixed.

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1st. I never said im doing it
2nd. Even if i was doing it, u have to proove it.
3rd. It could be fixed very easy, but arenanet dont care.

And as long they dont care ppl will be doing it. In the meantime u can cry a river

You are going into a WvW situation where it’s not designed for solo play then you get mad when a group kills you….what did you expect? Its WORLD vs WORLD, not one guy jumping around….that’s called PVE. If you really want to do the puzzle, you have to get some others to do it with you, this is a social game and you can’t solo everything, and if you try, you can’t get mad and rage log out because it bit you in the butt.

And I hope your server is doing well and you’re not taking up valuable server space where people who want to contribute to the server are waiting to get in while you try to do solo jumping puzzles.

Who is the best "commander" on your server?

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We actually have several good commanders on IoJ……several bad ones as well. The best seem to primarily be in EB at this point while the others play in borderlands…..

I look more at the guilds the commander’s represent than their names though, [AoJ], [RvR], [BP], (and several others that I can’t think of off the top of my head) which have commanders that are strategically minded.

I will echo the several bad ones. However, last night there was a commander on that organizes a bunch of people in SH (the northermost camp) of IOJ borderlands that seemed to know what he was doing…at least on paper, I stayed behind to defend the camp and had to log out fairly early because I was sick as a dog. (this might have been 2 nights ago, my brain is kinda fuzzy, and my lungs are full of fluid!)

Same Fate as Warhammer?

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Ljiona, were any of them an elementalist that take a bow after a 1v1 fight?