Guild Wars 2

one of the few things sadder than people /laugh after they kill someone, is that people that actually care they get laughed at

you know you can turn emotes off eh?

DarkusRogue.3027:

Nothing fun today in EB. Not sure why Deso needed 5 golems to take a wooden keep away from us. Clearly it was a ‘’we have bigger numbers than you. In your face’’ kind of takeover. Clearly we were outnumbered. Then we got base camped for about 15 minutes. Only time they left was because FR took Veloka Tower from them.

Here’s hoping to more interesting things happen the rest of the week, but I doubt it. Roll on Friday.

Wait,… you didn’t like my golems?

Dang, we had like 2600 supplies permanently in SM and i didnt know what to do with the supplies. Since you guys didn’t come to take something i decided to go and find you guys!

It’s sure hard to satisfy you guys!

I bet you know where the first part comes from too

Just had a lovely commanding sessions in FR bl, real nice amount of lootbags and great fight in garri. Tons of fun, thanks all.

Good luck all, hope we can have some fun fights this week and the lootbags will fill our inventories as quick as they did last week!

Sounds like a lame excuse; he literally did that for 2 minutes to take that keep cause of the aoes and siege. Cant make it a cooler story, but its true.

We had no commander tag. Anyway, PT is jumping to Deso BL!

Wasnt when we hit gunnars, but the Shivers gave us a proper fight for over 30 minutes in their keep. Im dont mind if people complaing. We do what we enjoy, having sweets fights and getting loot. We run in borders 4 nights a week. We run EB 1 night, and instantly we get the forums to explain to us that THAT is unfair and blabla.

In addition: what your guild groups doing is exactly the same, bring in 2-3 guild groups per border and try to farm there. Something with pots and kettles

yes. if youre angry about that send a complaint using the in game mail system to our complaints officer. Wemil.

aw, the first defeated people come and complain. You guys have the ability to bring in the same numbers, and we’d love to see some challanging big fights. And ofcourse… we want lootbags

Pain Train [PT] is currently unleashing some beasts in EB. We’d like to see some Gunnars or Shivers to come and stop us.

See you there.

I personally dont care if the enemy has a bigger group or not. When PT is having a run and we have a larger group, we don’t tell half the people to just wait else we may be meanies to outnumber the enemy… The only reason why i did place the screenshot is cause instantly someone comes moaning that we had heavily outnumbered the enemy, which in that case was absolute non-sense.

Im not too arrogant to admit i fight outnumbered fights in our favour, but i don’t go to the forums and make up stories about them.

dikamilo.7519:

Eniav.9064:

Haha nice stacking 3 guild groups and pugs against us that was rather funny tbh

And still less than you blob

@ Eniav … Haha, are you crazy?!, they didn’t need multiple guildgroups, and we definitely had about 100 guys! Look at the screenshot i included!…

Oh wait.

Forgive us our sloppy weekend, it’s quite the change being green and i think quite a lot of friendlies jump in our maps to get their world completion done. After tomorrow the real fun will start again!

Good luck all, if any wvw guild gets bored during the week be sure to let us know here and PT will see if we can do something for you)

Thanks all AG for showing up and fighting us, shaped as the big blob of skill lagg. This event has been a great training for us (usually we aren’t this big, don’t worry), against some worthy enemies.

I think i can conclude the same from the matchup, it was boring during the days, and during primetime AG gave us quite the hard time. We have some problems with queueing and new players not willing to adapt to a WvW playstyle, but i don’t think we can complain seeing the outcome of the week.

Thanks to UW too, mainly for having free points ;(, it’s a shame many people have left your server. Hope it won’t fall down even more and you get some matchups that will be more fun for you.

PT is ready for you guys, expect some terror in UW bl.

apologies beforehand if you meet PT today, we’re doing an alt run to shake the boredom of the week

Self Ignition.1640:

ill pm you that in game to avoid a ton of deso players joining too and avoiding decades of queue

@Atoss, I agree. look at all the new brave new deso players claiming we’re so awesome cause we win in silver league while during primetime we lose. It used to be the other way around and i’m not happy with the way things are going during primetime. Being honest here though, we have queues everywhere in primetime and AG has twice the numbers of organised guilds that deso has, and imo slightly abuses that number to fight 2v1 guildfights. It’s no miracle we lose, GG to AG.

I would love to see all of you AG forum warriors on thursday evening when PT will be doing a guildraid.

Now it’s raid time, so hope to still see you! You guys suddenly dissapeared after we wiped you in the lord room of garrison :/

The reason we left is cause do our daily raid from 3.30 – 5.30. You can make all the claims you want about why we wiped, the one and only honest and true reason is simply because your people kept waypointing and running back in and closed the gate, eventually getting us down 1 by 1.

See you guys thursday.

Ah well, like I said it wasn’t meant as kittening, just tried to say I had fights against you lot this week that were nicer then some of the things I saw in the video. Shame it always has be ‘kittening’, since it’s not meant that way.

Maybe some of your guildies may know me as that little annoying double inci thief that keeps waving at the gold invader and your kill for fun buddy

Seuche.4809:

Hey, here my newest video Good old Days [GD] First days silver league

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVnemPWL2uI

Thx 4 the fights, hope some millers see this and understand what we do !!

hf all

I really respect GD, but come on guys… 90% of that video is vs fort ranik and theres like one or 2 fights against deso, while i can remember fighting you guys a lotttt more. if you post something, why not post all of it including the part where you all needed mya to beat GoD? And no, not saying that is a shame, cause GoD had more people, but still… would make the video nicer and more honest.

Apart from that, much respect and nice vid.

Concluding, quite a nice matchup, but a bit boring outside primetime. I guess most servers in silver have the coverage problem deso used to have ;(

‘LAGG’

the excuse since Aug 2012.

Thx all for joining/fighting me in millers border today, [PT] had a nice little run there and tried to get some upgrades on the keep there. Nice fights with Ranik, Millers remind me a bit of abbadons :p.

About the topic of deso being in silver… We have lost a ton of guilds in the past months and we are currently strong cause all pvers fill up the map giving us coverage. We kinda said we dropped with the intention of dropping, but we could not have stopped ourself from dropping in any way, cause we had absolutely no coverage.

Summary of the week:

Abba: “we cant be second, deso and gandara are double teaming :’(”

Deso: “no, we focus you cause youre weak ande asy lootbags, look at other borders where gandara is taking our stuff”

Gandara: “we didnt ask for any help, nor do we need it”

Abba: “you guys are acting it away :’(”

[PT]: “sorry abba, did we confuse you when the waypoints in your keeps werent yours?”

Abba: “:’(”

Abba: “),:”

Abba: “:’(”

Aponax.7140:

most of us are proud that you 2 see us as the highest threat this season
but i think, deso is the one who will make it
and while you gandarrans help deso defeating us
deso is laughing
it’s just tactics from deso, and gandara is blind
all that just because of “better fights from deso/gandara”?
funny ^^

but wayne, let’s chill, double-teaming is part of the game
and like “hate is fame” we are proud that we are a high threat

as you write this gandara is focussing deso in EB, and they were in deso bl a little while ago…

talking about blind

:’(

manudiao.9803:

you are simply manipulating the outcome of this week. without the help of desolation, gandara would have had problems getting on second place. fact! I don’t say they couldn’t have done it by theirselfs but they would have had a hard time. it’s obvious that desolation is helping gandara atm to get on second place – this might be strategy, but this has nothing to do with sportsmanship in a league and doesn’t show how your server performed overall. so it’s manipulating and basically teaming up.

Im gonna try extra hard to make that happen now, just cause of you!
May your server be proud of you!

Gandara, go clear the green of the maps and youll be second
As said before, gandara deserves it a lot more than abba.

ah i got that site wrong then, my bad in that case. still cant say we have been double teaming with anyone though eh.

Furball.7368:

I believe those are the stats for Desolation. Meaning that Deso players focused on EB and then their own Borlderlands, and then other borlderlands. Gandara Stats are:

1 Eternal Battleground 36.1%
2 Gandara – Borderlands 30.1%
3 Abaddon’s Mouth [DE] – Borderlands 17.4%
4 Desolation – Borderlands 16.4%

So it would seem that we have focused AM BL just a little more than deso BL. I do however understand what you mean about the trouble you had on Deso BL, especially at the beginning of the matchup when we took your bay and got it to Waypoint a couple of days in a row. I must have spent around 12 hours scouting and sieging that place up as I couldn’t be bothered for the laggy fights!

Finally some honesty, as i said in previous post it’s not bad at all… we hop to borders where we try to find most action too! but we had some very good guilds in deso bl, while if we logged on another bl it was just a steamroll.

However, it does proof that there was no way of double teaming gandara or abba from our side or ‘making an alliance and selling our soul’, so lets keep that discussion behind.

Vortigern.1987:

LampGhost.9658:

I’m happy we’re showing AM what they and their laggfest creation are really worth… Gandara deserves the second place here for actually fighting to win!

Well, i guess your blobs do not create lag.

Seriously, blaming someone for lags while running even bigger numbers seems a to be hypocritical. Due to the influx of new players every server in this matchup created skill-lag, pretending something else is silly.

About your towers in EB… i still think there is a difference between using an opportunity and making an alliance with another server. But if you want to sell your soul for a worthless Finisher and some rewards, go for it.

Even bigger numbers… i wish

idk why you are making assumptions and what they are based on… we are not double teaming anyone… is there even any gandara online by now? Double team is what gandara and abba did all week on deso bl, send their best people there and defend it with their life… what we do is simply picking a focus on one server because it will be of benefit in the future (and a personal benefit for me cause i think abba is probably the poorest server seeing they have so many people yet still are so extremely weak in fights).

manudiao.9803:

officially teaming up in a league – don’t know anything about sportsmanship. shame on gandara and desolation for being the worst servers eu

Kinda ironic coming from a server that would literally focus our towers every time we would focus SM in EB…

I’m happy we’re showing AM what they and their laggfest creation are really worth… Gandara deserves the second place here for actually fighting to win!

Even though this may or may not having to do with providing us an easier late season

Okay guys,

Thanks a lot for the really sweet matchup! I had the feeling deso border was slightly the point of pressure of both of your servers strongest guilds, but i guess we should see that as a way of honour.

I really loved the week cause up to a certain point it could go in anyone’s favour. Special compliments go out (again) to the gandara side, cause they have amazing guildgroups and always know to recover very well during combat. As i said before i have little respect for the way abbadon fight; stick as many people possible to a tag, causing lagg, barely fighting/insta dying and STILL having to build siege EVERYWHERE and then still lose… But let’s say; all their style.

I’m looking forward to the last week for the good fights with gandara and the steamroll we’re going to give abbadon (and the lootbags that will provide us).

Semi-Offtopic; i really hope some forum mod would do some moderating and not ban magnetron permanently of the forums for pointing out an exploit, while they do allow an entire matchup thread to be ruined by some people that have to take their GvG experiences to the matchup thread.

Xae Isareth.1364:

Not really. Mesmers already have 2 skills like that, Null Field and Power Cleanse, and those aren’t even healing skills. Guardians can also group cleanse with PoV.

You gotta also remember that this is a healing skill, and you can only have one of those. You can’t just pop your main source of healing whenever you feel like it, and you’ll have to give up the benefits of another healing skill to use it (eg Warriors would have to give up their precious OP Healing Signet).

that just proves why its OP.. its universal, so everyone just pops that and woop… mesmers become even more useless.

Don’t want to sound like a total whine. Just trying to provide feedback stating that the general idea of the skill sounds a bit overpowered and making certain other classes/spells pointless rather then this spell adding something renewing. I hope the release will prove me wrong

i obviously don’t know the stats of the skill yet, but after what i’ve read i agree with john dean for now. This will mess some world v world action up if thist will be available in wvw…

Xenn.3809:

Weli.4568:

Well this matchup is going to be tough one. Cant wait for friday tho.

Guess not everyone can be pleased…. You are ahead, prob favourite to win this week (and league), you can find ppl to fight against, and is not just a romflstomp.

I guess since singing is not allowed, let’s all go back to the dark negative side of things.

/15 characters of QQ to don’t get infracted.

Im glad with the matchups, gandara do give us a hard time in some of the borders (mainly deso bl seems a nice target of the yak guys and some other guilds), and blobadon just stick as many people possible to a tag and runs around with it trying to… idk… confuse the anet servers? I do like this a lot more then the insta-shank we would get from the gold servers. It’s still not easy for us though, we are putting ourselfs quite to a limit (especially with our patience with pugs at some points). We have a ton of pvers we are trying to get into wvw and hopefully stick with our tags. I personally enjoy it a lot, but hopefully after friday we will be able to relax a bit more

to see what all these forum warriors were actually worth, i tagged up in EB today for about 8 hours…

Most easy zergs i’ve fought in a while, in the end we just started trolling a bit.

http://i.imgur.com/zL7Xmuj.jpg?1?2819

thanks for the easy points though guys, you should really step your game up before you come talk in these forums

well, this suggestion is mainly a response to the announcement there will be a new map which will allow people in queue to fight, however the point do not count toward world score. Further, i never said all pve players should be put last, i just mean give a LITTLE benefit to wvw players over pvers so that wvwers just dont feel left out so much when a new feature comes in and you happen to have a bit slower internet speed to dload the patch…

Another suggestion i had, regarding leveling alts: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/WvW-account-and-char-ranks-split

Hello guys, a little question/suggestion about wvw ranks:

Personally i always wvw on my thief, i really like the char and getting the rank and title up is a lot of fun for me. However, sometimes i really want to play on my warrior, but i just don’t do that often cause it feels like wasting my time i could spend ranking my thief up…

Why doesnt anet seperate between 2 ranks? first of all your account wvw rank, which is a sum of all your character ranks and which will provide you with a title. And a 2nd char bound rank, which will provide you with the ability points. This way altoholics can still level alt while getting their account wvw rank up, while not having the total of ability points.

I think this will encourage people to play on alts in wvw, and having more fun and planning out battles better. Personally i would rank multiple characters up this way, cause for me it’s the total level and the title that count

Hello all,

First of all, i’m pretty sure that a lot are going to disagree with this idea. But please read it out and think about it in terms of fairness.

I personally think that people that have a higher WvW rank, should get a certain benefit in a queue. This may be; getting popped in the middle of the list of your rank is above a certain level, or when you queue, everytime someone joins wvw you do not shift one place up queue, but 2.

Reason for this; i believe i have a decent wvw rank and i spend 90% of my time there. However, after patches and with the start of the season i get in longish queues (even in our silver league server). This is all due to pve players trying to join wvw. Obviously all fine with me, but i do think it’s unfair that those that fight for their server every day, will have to wait cause some glorious pve-ers want some achievement points.

I would love it if arenanet came up with a system for this. It would also provoke new people to not instantly move to the highest ranks servers, but split out more equally.

It’s finally a nice measure for what we can expect in the leagues much better than fighting riverside and BB!

Have a good reset night all! Seems a fun matchup.

Keep it clean.

it may be worth mentioning that this week deso will be playing for the fights, not the points! I hope we can meet eachother in the field. Good luck all!

Hell yeah, finally a nicer match-up where we stand more of a chance. Good luck to all, hope we can have some nice fights this week.

Covis.6037:

lately i have only seen desolation playing during prime time, probably tagging up running 60 man raids for 1-2hours and leaving.

i think many in deso can’t be bothered fighting SFR, even if we take all our stuff back and defend/upgrade it during the day, it’s waking up to a +600 for sfr. We can’t win that unless we’d get some nightguilds running (which we don’t have). A second week vs SFR was just pointless and no fun at all for a lot of us.

And yea, if ins tags up, gets a 75% pug group, and still continuously kills an equal sized group under the command of Wemil, thats the 1-2 hours we enjoy

Ah yes, that indeed brings up some points i had thought about too, but did not mention in my post. As part of a more rewarding WvW, new achievements would be really welcome and probably easy to implement. After playing a ton of WvW i still only have a few tiers in most of the achievements, and as pointed out before, the amount of total doly’s killed the past year would only be enough to reward 23 people with the yakslapper title. Why not make a lot more tiers, and think of new achievements?

Second point that i had thought about aswell is the patch notification… Why the hell does everyone get kicked out of WvW in 10 sec after the message ‘a new patch will be available soon’ appears… Why not at least tell us 15-30 minutes beforehand? Few weeks ago we were at the inner of a servers main keep in EB when we got kicked out… Unfair and unrewarding.

I added this to my main post aswell.

Hello forumusers and hopefully mods/devs,

With the recent and upcoming wvw patches you’ve received a lot of criticism. In this post i want to try and work out what Arenanet’s intentions were and how this worked out. This post contains a lot of speculation from my side, and i hope some people will share their thoughts about what i wrote here.

Starting off with the new bloodlust buff, in my opinion arenanet made a change to the borderland maps, simply because they received a lot of complaints about arenanet not caring about wvw. The underlying thoughts to create the bloodlust points and buffs are probably designed in the hope to create more organised smaller groups that would split of the zerg and thereby spreading the people, decreasing lagg and making wvw more strategic.
Then there’s the leagues, which are probably designed to give every server more of a loyality boost and more competitive/rewarding fights.

This, in my opinion, is a combination that ruined wvw for a lot of people, and is very poorly chosen. First of all; the bloodlust will have an opposite effect. High wvw-populated servers will have the extra numbers to spread and possess all of the points (and therefore the buffs), making the server that already had the larger numbers even stronger since they will get the extra stats from the buff… I personally can not see any other outcome from this bloodlust buff than the strong servers having an advantage…
Bringing in this patch, nearly at the same moment as organising the leagues, will cause a ton of people to transfer to a higher (wvw-)populated server cause they want to join the winning team. Combining this with the simple way of server transferring, could be lethal to wvw as it is.

My question is simple, do people think im right here? and how do people think wvw can be improved? I personally think the recent patches were there to out something out there in the hope to keep the wvw population happy, which did not work out.

My suggestions;
- Start listening to forum users, even the ones that seem like a complete whiners (me?)
- People have been asking for GvG’s a long time, this current buff even ‘destroyed’ GvG’s. I personally don’t care for GvG’s, but if so many people want it, why introduce a buff that will destroy it??
- Make servertransfers near enough impossible… A lot of people switch servers to be on the winning team, completely unbalancing servers. At the begin of the game we ‘had to pick our server wisely’… Why? 2 hours of farming and i can switch.
- Fix the buff on the last patch… It’s so obvious it didn’t turn out to be what it should be… Give some other bonusses like increased wxp or whatever, but not such a powerfull extra stat.
- Make WvW more rewarding, i think this is something that Anet adressed a bit by making the Vets/champions in WvW drop the new ascended items and champion boxes, but there’s still a low reward level compared to pve.
- As part of a more rewarding WvW, new achievements would be really welcome and probably easy to implement.
- Give us a prewarning when a patch hits, instead of kicking us out of WvW instantly… tell us 15-30 minutes beforehand instead.

- And last, but not least, get some fresh thoughts in your WvW team. WvW has such a high potential and it’s probably THE endgame of GuildWars2. Don’t let it go to waste and get some more brains in, cause (no offense) the current team does not think everything through like they should imo.

I hope some people could offer their thoughts on this post and tell me what their suggestions are. Let’s try to make this a constructive feedback post, rather then a bunch of whining.

Wemil.7052:

Yh for some reason our night cappers got a extra sugger kick and went beyond pro pvd cappers if deso promise a good fight we will maybe just maybe send our pichakus back to their poke balls:)

i think yesterday in EB we had very nice pug fights (including kodash), ending up having big 3 way fights, which is what it’s all about imo. problem for deso is simply that literally all our wvw interested people were there, while we had the other borders near enough all outnumbered, and having a large and very strong guild like zbs fighting for our garri all day doesn’t really give us a chance.

Again, i hope we’ll get some more good fights like yesterday

ah well, this week is already a GG to seafarers. i don’t like giving up, but logging on to an EB thats fully red, with 3 waypoints for seafarers says enough. good game guys, hope we can still have some nice fights in the coming days.

to be really fair; i don’t have any hopes arenanet will balance wvw in any way since they’d have to disable the ability of americans playing on EU servers and make server switching ridiculously expensive (or block it completely).

i don’t often say this, but this was probably the worst week i’ve ever ran in wvw… 1 server that does absolutely nothing but building 25 arrow carts in a keep and barely dares to actually meet your zerg in a fight, unless they outnumber you madly, and on the other side gandara that does nothing unless there is absolutely no activity on the enemy side of the map.

only credit this week goes out to [Scnd], very strong guild that must have had an even more boring week than me
and TDA gets added to my little personal hall of shame, for waiting in front of deso garri and repeatedly jump 1 guy with the 5-10 guys they had, and then eventually die when 5-10 pugs arrive.

Olba.5376:

All of the updates that come out irregularly are bug fixes.

Bug fixes take priority over WvW. Especially when those bugs are gamebreaking or relating to the most recently added content.

That is a good point i have thought of myself too, but seeing most of the bugs i see in the patch notes are not THAT problematic.

futher, there is a few other points i’m wondering;
why does wvw have to shut down so long before they actually release the patch (i understand this may be a technical thing), but why can’t they at least add a timer for wvw just like they have in pve? like ‘wvw will shut down in 15 minutes’. a few days ago we were at the inner of an enemy keep and we just got kicked out…

A little suggestion/question for Anet;

Why does Anet always updates during EU primetime?… I’m a wvw player and Anet always shuts down wvw far before they bring out the patch. usually this means that wvw is down for over an hour, during wvw primetime… why?

My suggestion is very simple… take EU servers into account when a patch will be released and don’t release them during primetime…

NvN.4321:

Another ~20 h of this match up , may we never match up again.

yea sorry bout that, we had the compensate some wxp for all the time blobadons ran away from us the past week…