Guild Wars 2

I logged in an hour and a half ago did a chest run at blazeridge for my daily chests from there, killed some branded, did an event where ogres needed to gather water, then the continuation of that said event, where i needed to escort them back to their kraal, at that point, i decided, i dont want to do more things there, i jump to spark fly fen, help out some quaggans, then kill some krait who try to steal some kitten from the asurans, and then…. an event appears up north, destroy some risen galleon, i go there, buts it apart with couple of others and…. 21 karma. SAY WHAT! i came to the the forums searching for answers and find this thread, the DR system is some serious bullkitten. I cant even have fun utilizing the social aspect of the game(going about doing random events with random people) anymore now? Did i suddenly step into some kind of a police state? I am starting to realize why people get infracted on the forums for criticism, propably because there are so many things wrong with it.

So i would like to know… When are we actually getting the game we were hyped about, and when does the beta end?

Also is this DR thingy a common thing these days? since i would like to know if i can expect to run into it often when wasting my time in random places while waiting for certain world events i want to participate in with friends.

Edge:

It usually happens to me in parties of 2 or 3, last such occurance was today when in party with my friend, who likes to play a norn ranger while i prefer a sylvari warrior. I was taking the small chest on top of the toppled wall at blazeridge, when in mid jump i am brought to a slower speed and i see i cant change skills anymore, while i saw my friends hp bar take a hit at the same time. I have become suspicious of joining parties because of this now, especially when doing my daily chest run :S

Cant edit an earlier post due to option not showing again so:

Edit: well how stupid of me, forgot there was “call-Outs” also and there it was, well wount happen again, but now i know that these are not forums for free critcism, that truly is a shame, all things considered. Kinda confirms some of my fears.

Fiennes.9568:

You are not blowing any whistles. This is not some corporate cover up where they seek to chastise you at every turn.

There are bugs, for sure – they will (hopefully) get fixed over time.

“consider us living thinking beings instead of a mindless horde”.

What on earth?

Your telling me the autoloot not being an actual autoloot is a bug? Your telling me their choice to make it so that if you DC you lose every variable data of the session hence losing rights to loot the chest off a boss, are you telling me also that the invulnerabilities are bugs too? Comeon, did you even think before you replied? Seriously?

Arghore.8340:

Just some advice for the next time you want to be honest, write it all down in a text editor and leave it for a few days. Then come back and remove all the frustration and powertalk. While i do agree that most of these things are annoying, the way you make it sound like it’s the end of the world and the excessive use of powerspeech makes it air more like one big QQ post. Due to which i have a hard time wanting to agree with you…

clap clap clap…
you understood that the post was about frustrating things, aaaand then you went off the rails. I stated that the things in my prewious post fly in the face of all logic. I only mentioned apocalypse as a word in the post, so i assume thats one of the few things you understood.

It is also nice to see how youth(or youth minded) see everything negative automatically as crying, i love how they cant discerne between 4 simple different things. Frustration, Crying(you can call me out on this when i make my 3rd or 4th post about the same topic), Complaining, Confusion.

Also on a sidenote, i love how my post has “infracted” because i called Anet out on patronization, who the hell should i call out? what word am i allowed to use from the general group of people who made the decisions? Is Anet really this touchy on the subject of criticism?
I Rechekked the TOS of the forums, and yup, tried searches for call out and callout, and i did not get any hits…
If so i wount mention “Anet” or the respective group again, but i am fairly certain cat is out of the bag already, and considering which forums the posts are being written it is fairly certain who and whos motives are being questioned.

I thank you the posters for bringing your insight(s) to this message chain.

I loved GW1 and i am loving GW2, but there are a couple of issues in the combat system and game itself that fly at face of any logic and smash it to bits.

-Combat mode on/off issues:
-IF you are in a party in the same map as a party member, if said party member enters combat, even if it is in the opposite side of the map, you enter combat too, this here makes no sense as it slows you down alot, especially annoying if you happen to be gunning for a chest at the end of one of the jumping puzzles
– If you dont feel like wasting time with some monsters that you can 1 or 2 hit while your doing a jump puzzle, well, Anet says you have to, For example in the blazeridge steppes spider cave puzzle, if you leave the spiders to eat the dirt flying from your boots, they agro on you even when they cant reach the cavern where you are at, forcing you to be in perma combat mode unless you log out and log in, this is just one of many occurances.
– If you are fighting Tequatl the sunless or one of many bosses that give long term ailments, like in case of tequatl, 7 minutes or sometimes longer weakness, you cant travel via WP’s because you are locked in a life and death battle versus weakness…. Seriously Anet… COMEON!
-The runes that summon animals…. have one of those? well your kitten out of luck, since you cant control those, they force you to enter battle mode for 1 minute, as they have such a ridiculously large agro area, you can kiss goodbye to hauling kitten for a whole minute.
-God help you if you find an elevated spot to kill enemies from… ok i know that is in the name of fairness giving enemies who cant reach you an invuln. albeit it is stupid. But what gets me is that enemies that first chase you when you just want to run past them, slow you down, then when you start hitting back, they run back to their spawn with invulnerability, leaving you hanging in the dry, and slowed down for a while. This here is some annoying kitten, atleast let us finish the enemies no matter where they follow us, IF THEY intiated the attack.

There are propably more issues with this system, but these are the ones i can remember off the bat as i am not home atm.

-The loot and reward system:
-Killed a dragon? nice, running for the loot? nice, Got a DC… yeah sucks to be you then, even if you killed him and get a DC before you get to the chest = no loot for you… Really Anet, your busting down on botters, scammers and gold sellers like it is the apocalypse of the internet. But things like this still exist…. is there really no way to you know, make the game remember whan you killed said dragon and give you the right to get loot even if the DC happens…
-Make the autoloot a real autoloot, you still have to remember to push F in the middle of the battle and if it is a big battle, you might not notice those shiney things in the ground among all the chaos, potentially losing some valuable goods. Why not let the loot go directly into the inventory, is that too much to ask? from a feature called Autoloot. LOL! i mean even if it fills our bags with kitten, we could still get a similar notification as we get now, with the unclaimed loot, giving us the option to walk away, and organize our kitten and come back knowing we havent lost anything. IT is immensely annoying, running to a corpse of an enemy with the glow on it, only to see it disappear right as you get there… Yeah really fun.

I am not trying to be a kitten here, i am trying to blow the whistle on a couple of annoying things, and i am fairly sure i am not alone in this, so Anet. Could you please look into these things, for the sake of your customers/gamers, and consider us living thinking beings instead of a mindless horde.

• this post has been edited to remove a violation of the forum code of conduct.*

Topic pretty much says that, i was wondering what will happen, as i have grown somewhat bored of the current server, and how poorly coordinated they are in WvW despite giving them friendly advice “dont commit half of our players to take minor supply bases which can be taken back, from defending our keep and orb” they return the favor with racial slurs.

VirtualBS.3165:

Incredible, the number of people in this thread that didn’t even bother to check that mobile versions of i5 vs i7 don’t relate to their desktop counterparts!

Mistbooster.1803, ever since I got my first quad-core (Q6600 o/c@3.2GHz) I never looked back! Especially with CryEngine 3 and Unreal Engine 4 coming shortly.

And considering both of those are still going to use only 1 core of your PC, the multhithreading means is they benefit from multiple graphics cards cores, you know like l4d2 has done ummm 2 years now?

works, kinda sad that you gotta wait through a PoS full ReDL of the client files when this happens, what a bad decision to make the game one big file :S

DaveK.1023:

Just for the newcomers: this thread was previously titled

“Official “Low FPS” statement still missing".

Someone from the moderator team took the liberty to rename it to

“Low FPS”

Why, I do not know.

welcome, to the police state?

I am also curious about the Anets decision on going with one big blob of a file, it is just harder for them and the customer to handle it, especially when the manual repair flies out of the window with it, isnt that kind of a backward decision, same as we would be playing games from a bunch of DvD images. About as easy to repair if anything goes wrong.

Syrellaris.9125:

Home Style,

If you think that 35 FPS is low, then you are mistaking. Without Knowing what there settings are set to, or what type of hardware they have, 35 is considered normal.

The Black Citadel is also very busy capital, just like lions arch and there are tons of items to show on your screen, logic tells you your FPS is going to drop some specially during prime Time.

Also a few people posting threads about the same issue in countless posts and individual posts, does not mean the problem is widespread. Not to mention the “thousands” of replies in the single thread for the issue is also people trying to help solve peoples issues.

Thing is alot of people can be seen in map and local chat complaining about FPS and various other issues, i kid you not, every now and then someone sparks a convo and a whole slew of people express their issues. Fact is alot of those people never come here to complain, they simply cant be bothered because they either. A.) know Anet doesnt take kindly to complaints. or B.) They rather not start a flamefest.

Funny thing is my rig is in between minimum and recommended specs. i run this game with full eye candy at 1920×1080 50hz. and stable at 50fps with v sync on :P
I got a:
Asrock 4core twins 1600 p-35D Mobo,
E7300 at stock 2,66ghz
4gigs of 1333mhz ddr2(underclocked to 1033 to match the processor better)
GTX 285 Triple X edition by XfX
Running 2 WC Caviar blue hard drives.
DvD drive is some crappy old LG drive back from 2005.

94% done…. soon within an hour or 2, will be the moment of thruth, and i will be making a manual backup in case Anets brainchild makes another misshap like this xD

Phaze Delta One.2834:

Thousands of players out of the millions who are still playing = acceptable loss.

And a potential PR disaster if they even hint or act like that is acceptable.

Yup the real extent of problems is being drowned into the excessive censoring the mods are doing, and that is discouraging people from expressing their issues. Anet is not handling the things all too well atm.

VirtualBS.3165:

Again, both i5-3210M and i7-3612QM have hyperthreading. The only difference is this i5 is a dual-core CPU and the i7 is a quad-core.

I wouldn’t even blink in choosing the i7 vs the i5 for gaming. Heavily multithreaded game engines are the future, you can bet on that.

You know i got the exact same sales pitch for multi threated games back in 2008 gues what, my dual core equipped rig still plays the recent AAA titles like a peach, no problem at all(apart from GW2 forcing a re install down my throat)

Ronin.8095:

“Now all we need is sit back and wait for the defense force to arrive. Flame shield up.”

+1

Batten down the hatche(t)s!

Ill jump out of the shield and back to get an extra flame shield orb going ;D

agree with you 110% there buddy, I never expected this incompetent service quality andkitten poor job at making things work only to break them again, We are paying customers, and nearly a month in launch still having the same problems persist is infuriating. It does not help their cause either that they are censoring frustrated messages left and right, and giving people links to generic QA’s as a solution. Also the very design of the game makes it hard for them to fix it, and a pain in the butt for the customer to deal with(get something go wrong, worst case scenario, your downloading the whole game again, like i am), and nearly impossible to fix manually on customers end.

All things said, i love the game, but i am seriously hating how Anet is handling things in it, from small things like not distinquishing a name of a herbal extract from a drug in a character name, all the way to TP issues, silly draw priorities in WvW and customer support and forum moderation.

Overall picture here is as far as my personal experience goes, is that they do not care about the customer, for them the customer is on the way, They seriously need to take example from Valve atleast and some indie companies who show geniune interest in the customers problems, instead of pushing them away.

@Graill… I agree, currently it is hard to say if we have some indian tech support here, or if we got some university students trying to make some pocket money, dont know which is worse >_<

i love how a moderator PMed me about not double posting (in german which i dont speak thank you very much) and use the edit feature, i wonder if they realize that the forums malfunction from time to time(alot), for example most likely if there is a double post, it means i only have the permalink button showing and not the report, reply and edit buttons at all. Maybe fix your forums before “reminding us” about using the features that half the time are not showing up?

Gotta say, 1 or 2 weeks on open beta prior to launch could have not hurt the bug squashing in this game…

I dont use the frame limiter myself, i use Vsync as i am running a 1080p res. with 50hz. so v sycn keeps it at 50.

apparently we are anot supposed to respond in kind, my first post about my problem got closed because people kept missing the point, and i kept replying with the same respect, so either the mods are playing favourites or then they dont read all the posts, just our replies >_<

Oh and seems like if we have any negative experiences about the support we get and we mention them, or if we have a fault to point out in the way they treat their customers, those posts seem to go on the line of fire immediately, which sadly only lets us know we hit home with our posts.

Alpha Dragon.4576:

Temp solution is to remove the bad memory(hence the memtest). As I’ve said game checks your hardware for faults.

1 bad ram stick still should not force the game to re-dl itself :S

I too have made 2 posts about my client forcing a re-DL of the game down my throat at a whopping average of 210kb/s. (not a peach) the funny thing is, first post got closed because i replied to people with the same courtesy as they posted in my thread, ignoring their point. Not to mention the Mod sent me to a PoS QA’s that had absolutely no help, the second post was more fertile despite not having a solution, i removed the game, removed game files from documents Guild Wars 2 and removed installer, re DL’d installer and now in the process of re-dling the game(hopefully works this time around) i am currently at 59% at 87K+ files left, let it keep DLing over night, but it is still gonna take forever, if this does not work, i might go for a refund and start playing borderlands 2… atleast they got competent support, and their game client doesnt for BS like this down my throat. xD

Edit: Removed an Ascii arrow since the forums dont understand it, lol!

@HCP if you dont like it, dont read it, simple as that. And its hard to show respect if they dont even acknowledge the problem. We do apreciate the work they put in, but we are paying customers, thats something you need to bear in mind, we expect our products to work. Though the mods, well i havent seen anything to thank them for yet, if anything they made it harder for me to get answers.

Also i dont think we are interested enough in your personal life that we asked for what you do for a living, and wether or not someone has expressed gratitude towards the work you do.

Hell i could say “i am a truck driver who never slacks off and is allways on schedule, no one has ever thanked me” OR " i am school teacher no one has ever thanked me for the education i give them"

No one gives a Flying one, it is the job you are expected to do.

the local DAT file goes to same place where it was, in documents Guild Wars 2. well…. redownload restarted. sigh this kitten is gonna take 2 days to get fixed atleast, and i am pointing my finger at Anet… Companies put their games to open beta for a week or 2 for a reason :S But yeah, dont know if it helps or not, will find out in 24 hours i gues. atleast at the rate it is going.

problem is not starting at the same remaining file count problem is game forcing us to re DL the whole game, i am giving what you suggested a try anyway even though it restarts the DL.

Lets start a little friendly wager here. Local time here is now 01:16 19th september, the person who guesses closest to the time my Re-Dl of the game ends, wins 10 silver in game, Re-DL is aprox 166K files left of 216K it has been running now for 5 hours 18 minutes.
The dl rate varies between 180kb/s to 250kb/s

if only it had not given a couple of dozen other new problems, i am sure it would be worthy of the name miracle patch then.

elegos.3784:

Windows 8 is in the RTM stage, so stop writing to play in Windows 7 or that Windows 8 is not “finalized”, it is. Simply the general consumer will be able to access it at the end of October, while MSDN/TechNet/Dreamspark subscribers already have it since the beginning of August (end of it for Dreamspark).

Agreed, also no OS is truly finalized ever till they are no longer used ;D if win7 was finalized, would we have needed the SP1 hmmm?

awww kitten, i just chekked on my re-dl progress… 177K files left of 216K something…. and it has ran for 5 hours now…. then most likely updates on top of it… Thank you Anet. Well atleast i got something put inside my Hometheatre set while i wait for the stupid client to Re-dl the whole game -.-
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Ghost-Shell-Stand-Complex-Complete/dp/B000BMUVKQ/ref=sr_1_10?s=dvd&ie=UTF8&qid=1348005269&sr=1-10
Night cuorier just dropped that off.

the whole game actually seems to be in one big blob of a DAT file
so its actually recompiling it as it downloads :S

IMHO it looks like customer support amateur hour here :S i saw more competent customer support work when i worked for a local GSM operator Saunalahti as a face to face customer support personel. I saw some guys and girls looking like they were tired at their life, but hell they still listened to the problem and solved it…. my problem was either not read or simply missed completely :S

I cant use any of the 300 series drivers. got a GTX 285 XXX version by XfX and the drivers want to make the screen go black for 1-2 seconds every 2-3 seconds :S so i am still sticking with a bit older ones.

They should also:
-Fix the client, re-downloading the whole game without an option to circumvent, is not exactly fun.
-Start reading the posts before they close them(and not slap Generic QA’s as a solution we should look up)
-Start caring about customers. And give us an option to manually DL single files from some kind of repository for manual fixes.(i am guessing the 14,6gb Blob of a DAT file has something to do with the client RE-DLing the whole game w/o giving me a choice)

Why is my game client Re-Downloading all the game files, i have a 2mb net for the next 2-3 weeks and it is not exactly fun to wait for this thing to DL, the last time i closed my game it closed normally, when i closed my PC, Win 7 did not report any hanging programs, nor did it create a log off HF’s happening during shutdown, or the next time i bootedup, so now i am waiting for it to DL, and Anet’s suggested solutions were something i had done way before even making the post, so they hastily closed the thread without merging the post henche denying any chance of getting an actual answer, Thank you charles… nothing personal, just wish you had read the posts :S

So solution/answer(s) i am looking for:

-Why in the hell is my client redownloading the whole game when i am not running a repair, and why did it skip verification to begin with.
-Can i expect this to happen often?
-Can we circumvent this?
-Can we manually download some file that magically fixes this issue.
-Could Anet give us the option to decide when we want to repair it and when we dont(would be nice to have it back)

those are the questions i was looking for an answer, and a solution, Anet Rep. did not give it, did not read the posts, just slammed it shut and forwarded to a generic QA.

Here is hoping for an actual answer this time around.

Seems i am not the onlyone being slapped around by generic QA’s as a “solution” is this the quality of the service we can expect from Anet?

@Raven. I have a separate -repair switch icon for it. The game isnt even doing a repair, it is re-downloading the whole godkittengame.

Man thats a sad story, i get some random crashes too, not that often though, 1 maybe a day, sometimes a day or 2 goes by without one. But the latest escaped of the game client… i come home and bootup my PC, let it open up the softwares, go get a glass of water, fire up the game, a new kind of repair screen o_O i think to myself… odd, i figure i wait for it to run ( game closed fine last time) But then… thekittenclient decides, lets not verify anything, lets re-download the game, and now i am stuck waiting for that go, yes, a real peach with a 2mb connection, get something between 140kb/s to 250kb/s dl speeds. thanks Anet for the flawed client for an awesome game, and the stupid decision to make the whole game into one huge blob of a DAT file, so you cant DL individual files to fix a problem manually.

Not worth it, if anything, your re downloading your game more often, and thats not good for SSD’s :S (all the patching, re downloading of game files etc. and if you come up with the nasty glitch of having to redownload the whole game)

@HCPro.. Need reading Glasses mate? the whole problem is being caused by how the client behaves in this issue, that is beyond my control and it is Anet who made thekittenthing to behave like that, People should not have to wait 8 hours for the game to re-download if one file has gone awry. I will repeat myself here, Cant take the attitude? Dont reply.

So far you are the second person to miss the whole point completely, I do have to congratulate you, You were not the first, most likely not the last.

Think i am gonna make a manual Back up of the Dat and executable from now on. Anet should update their game specs to “30gb HDD space”

@Zaxan, Maybe because the reports are anonymous, and they dont reply to them, my original post is exactly how i meant it, Let me ask you this, would you not be frustrated that you need to wait 8hours+ for this thing to redownload itself, would you not want more info on it, wether or not it is a thing that can be expected to happen a lot in the future, and if this has been done intentionally or by mistake?

I have all in all worked for 2 different GSM carriers here in finland for a combined period of 1½ years in various things, mostly customer support, and alot of the time, conveing your frustration in your message is the best way to get the companys attention.

Now i would like to ask you a question:

If you get something ridiculous like this happen to you, are going to act like poor lil oliver twist and bend over and kindly say “please sir can i have some more”. or are you going to stop being a herd animal and demand an explanation?

Victus.9631:

Maybe your files corrupted on restart and you needed to re-download it? Why is it you point the finger when something does wrong that MIGHT be your fault or something that needs to be adjusted on your end? I suggest you exhaust your own resources before making an accusation like this.

Way to miss the point there, and way to speak when you dont know kitten. If it had been corrupted on startup, that would mean the cache files, not the 14,6gb dat file.(cache files are the temp ones just fyi). I am pointing the finger at them because they made the game into one huge file, so you cant manually dl single files to fix the issue either, There are hardly resources to be exhausted in my end, considering also the fact that my hard drives operate at nearly 0 HF/S and same goes for ram, The accusation is valid and pointed at right direction, If you cant handle it, dont reply to it, you will only make yourself look like ankitten

i have also tried various switches given in the wiki including -image and -repair i would have not made this post in such manner if they had worked, instead i would have made a Q with an Answer.

Also the fact that my game closed normally the last time, no services stuck to prevent shutdown, and no HF’s detected( win7 makes a log for me each time i shutdown or reboot counting hard faults, and which PID is associated with them).

now Shoo Shoo you gave me a good laugh though.

-Still waiting for Anet to reply-

I would have not made the reply if i had not checked it specificly says that the system backup feature needs to be enabled.

Edit:

and considering my system drive where the OS is installed(stores the backups to system drive, destination root cant be changed) is 80gb total, windows takes 17-18gb of it, so having just one backup version of the GW2 would take a quarter of the remaining space.

Saying, using a backup, is never a fix, they cant assume that everyone can afford to make those 2-3 times a week or even weekly basis, Neither can they assume that people just effing format their hard drives and make a clean installation just because of one game(so far the only option if i want to increase my system drive space).

well i dont have a prewious version as that requires the windows backup to be active, and i have a rather small system drive -.-

explanation would be nice Anet.

Ok so i come home looking to play some Guild wars 2. Annd…. a new kind of repair screen, weird since game closed normally last time, ok… now the kitten game is redownloading the entire game folder again WTF! Why? Just WHY! i moved into a new apartment recently and i cant get a better net for 2-3 weeks than the free 2mb line i have atm, i would really not like to redownload the effing game again every single time i restart it. really… What is wrong with you guys for making it like this(assuming it is intentional). And is there a chance to circumvent the satanic re-download of the game, its not exactly fun waiting for 8 hours for the effing game to hog the entire line and not being able to do anything else at the same time with my connection.

I love the game despite its quirks, but Anet, your killing the mood here.

oh and for the record, even if i already had a better net, it would still be major bullkitten.

SO yeah, had a lot of crashing today, in the last hours couple of hours alone, 7 crashes… also once the client stopped DLing at 66%, then crashed to error report when i decided enough waiting is enough. on one occasion… error reporter crashed -.- but most of the time, the crashes occured while traveling to or from LA, or when looking at guild panel, so, what is up with the game today? is it something that can be fixed in this end, verified the game cache 4 times today, so please dont suggest that.

scratch that, changed from failfox to chrome. now it shos up -.-