[MU] had a fun time in EB and HoD BL tonight! So glad we are facing servers higher than us. Also we are looking for 15v15 GvG please send me a whisper in game.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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oh pshh those are totally clones tanking that hammer train…
Mkay so, Idk if i’m just blind or not but I’m pretty sure you missed #12 in your picture. If you’re all this dumb no wonder you thought there were 30 people against you. L2Count?
nope I missed one, that’s embarrassing
even so it still shows 18..and Jereme even if we were backpedaling it’s not like there was no damage happening from our side, clones can’t tank that yet somehow yours did..
You’re really digging yourself a hole here buddy. My advice would just stop and move a long with your defeat.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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The problem here is that even after beating SF and doing your chest thumping, HoD (or more specifically MU and VLK) keep comming stalking SF to keep talking crap about them… Maybe if you left SF alone, you wouldn’t “have enough” of the people that YOU are calling out.
EVERYONE knows that SF is no perfect server… They win by overwhelming numbers during the prime time, but they fall when facing a server that have a sizeable force on their enourmous coverage gap… Anyone that deny this is an absolute blind fool.
So we don’t need some Tier1-Tier2 try-hard to come down here on the slums to talk about how we live play. If you can’t handle the forum war, stay out of it.
To HoD, a few months back we made you quit WvW for a week, you have came back with good coverage on a “High” population server (at times). Good job, MU you are still PPT gazing bads with 2-4 thieves that like to duel.
You know how I can tell you are full of it? ^
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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There is no use whining about coverage, we did that for quite some time on DH. After awhile you have to step up, recruit more PvE players, and fix the problem. Between now and the start of the season, we recruited many new PvE players to WvW, we trained new commanders, and we stepped our game up. SF is getting beat even during primetime when numbers are even, so you can say that coverage is why you are losing all you want but it isn’t true. You are losing because we stepped up and improved, and you didn’t.
There’s no great mystery at play or anything remotely like that.
NA prime time SF is STACKED. On reset night first week against HoD I think we had at LEAST 3/4 maps queued if not all at at least 1 point in the night. For the most part EBG, Home BL, and 1 additional BL, would be queued and for a period of time (30minsish IIRC). That’s relatively high tier participation. We have a decentish presence in late night/early morning, we’re relative ghost town til NA prime. This has been the case for about a year now at least.
There’s no “oh we didn’t have the numbers” when it came to HoD for SF. At all. Maybe the second week vs but certainly not the first. All the first week was was us being outplayed HARD. We fell short in the small man, we fell short in zerging, in guild groups, in defense, in everything. At least in bronze league the top 3 hasn’t been determined JUST through coverage, you can really appreciate the QUALITY of play between the three different servers. In that sense, mad props to HoD you played WELL.
Theres a lot of reasons why this server is above that server etc. In bronze league top 3 there’s a lot of complex considerations that need to be made, cant say the same for other leagues. SF has been shown where it needs to improve outside of sheer coverage and numbers and GOD I hope people realize that. I hope your fights with SF have provided you with the same opportunity.
The problem with weak coverage is that we only have groups going up against T3 towers which doesn’t really give a shot at progressive improvement. Get good or get out and of course the fairweathers got out. That is what happened starting on Monday in week one as soon as Dx got a shot at easy nightcapping. If people would just do as they were told, it would be a little different, but obviously only CoSA cared enough to do it.
I think during primetime we compete with HoD easily, not so sure about being outplayed though. Their pugs dragged em down a lot, our pugs do the same. Facing MU that successfully avoids picking up pugs was a hard fight, but when they had pugs they were pushovers since they kept rallying us. Our pugs are just as bad, if not worse. We both won our share of fights and often topped them in PPT especially during the weekend. I kind of expect the same thing with DH now that ET is gone, with no one to slow them down, we’ll get really wrecked by their nightcrew starting on Monday.
If you remember right, Kaineng was a big ? in bronze and HoD, DH, FC, SF (or was it FC in front of DH, I forget?) was the proper order. On SF we’ve already surpassed expectations, so there is nothing to be sad about.
We’ll see what Anet comes up with to fix that after the season. I think all leagues have shown the same problem exists, no matter the degree, it just is. If they refuse to do anything about it, maybe the grass will be greener elsewhere. It’s not like most weeks were enjoyable this season. I enjoyed HoD matchup, the rest have been boring as hell, to the point I feel like quitting this game. This week, we’ll see, but I suspect it’ll get boring fast come Monday, where we outnumber them in our primetime, then their primetime logs in and they outnumber us and so on.
KN great fights tonight and I hope you bring it all weekend long. For FC, saw you at the start of reset but then you vanished. Here is a video highlighting the fights from tonight.
Also looking for 15v15 GvGs, whisper me if you’re interested.
KN has no 15 man guilds. Just to save you time.
I dislike compilation videos in general, you guys are good. The only fights that you showed that finished were the only fights you won, the cut outs were the ones you lost. Its ok showing your guild getting beat by larger numbers. Every guild group wipes at some point, and I love the compilation videos that are honest and respectful to their opponents. Plus its more fun to watch if I didn’t know the fights in advance because I wouldn’t already know the outcome. If you only show the fights you win or cut out before things go south it makes the video far less fun to watch because it becomes far to predictable.
Thanks for the feedback! If you look at some of our old videos you’ll see I usually put in one wipe. The fights we had with you guys last night lasted so long that I needed to cut stuff out and rather cut out the wipes then us doing good haha.
See you on the battlefield!
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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KN great fights tonight and I hope you bring it all weekend long. For FC, saw you at the start of reset but then you vanished. Here is a video highlighting the fights from tonight.
Ha! Hey FC, me thinks GoM struck a nerve. MU is focusing us. LOL. Hope you can make some use out of that fact. It great to see them angry. They make the best loot bags! XD
but seriously though, MU sucks and I hope your family dies in a fire.
QuickLime bud, really think before you type on a public forum.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.
You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.
Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.
Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.
I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.
The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.
The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.
My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).
Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.
I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.
Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.
And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?
No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.
This makes no sense what so ever?
Spelled out for you…
Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.
People cant stand on a cap point w/o you holding their hand?
Believe it or not, there’s players out there that are quite terrified of PvP environments. Having experienced players there to escort them through ruin caps or jumping puzzles not only allows them to finish their achievements, but might actually give them enough courage to stick around and give this WvW thing a shot.
I’ve heard [MU] did a great job in teaching casual HoD WvWers how to get organized. That’s why I’m a little surprised you don’t seem to appreciate that we try to do the same for our PvEers.
I had nothing bad to say about that scenario was just responding to your buddy’s pointless addition to the conversation.
As for MU has nothing to teach GoM, we could teach you to finally stop kitten complaining about numbers and your smaller groups organized to wipe the mystical “HoD Tier 1 Blob”.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.
You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.
Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.
Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.
I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.
The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.
The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.
My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).
Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.
I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.
Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.
And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?
No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.
This makes no sense what so ever?
Spelled out for you…
Grouping up and helping your servermates finish up their WvW achievements during a blowout matchup isn’t foolish. It’s a common courtesy. A good majority of that blob in the photo are not experienced WvW players and it’s very difficult for them to hit the goals on their own while the Silver League Dodgers are stampeding around every map.
Look who is being quoted on my comment before you respond. Wasn’t talking to you. You guys won’t let go of this “Silver Dodger” thing, you would’ve been spanked by NSP just as bad and been saying the same thing.
Stop your pointless QQ it’s getting quite old.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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<3 the emotes too, the best part was when they all ported and went back to Bay, we clearly outnumbered them.
You’re looking at pretty much the entirety of GoM’s WvW population compacted onto one map, and yet you STILL don’t have the outmanned buff.
Consider the following…
If you gather your servers entire WvW population into a single force, you may want to do something more useful than flip control points that do not directly earn points for the server and are capped as quickly with 1 person as they are with 5000 people.
Thanks for the tip. Here’s one for you: If you don’t hike up your skirt and bend yourself over a table to avoid a higher league, you might actually fight servers with large enough populations to give you fun and challenging matchups instead of going up against servers who keep themselves entertained by zerging empty bloodlust points and portal-bombing dolyaks.
I want to address the comments that HoD doesn’t belong in bronze.
The first point I want to make is that the very concept of “belonging” to a league is artificial. ANet divided the servers up into arbitrary groups of 6/9/9 based on rank. Somebody is going to be number one in each league but who that is doesn’t mean anything since if they had done 12/12, 9/9/6, 9/6/9, or 6/6/6/6 then things would be radically different.
The second point I want to make is that the bottom silver server is Northern Silver Peaks. The last time HoD faced NSP was in week 31 and HoD was roflstomped. In fact, for the most part every bronze server that went up against NSP has been roflstomped for some time. If HoD had somehow snuck past NSP into silver then the same complaints about a server not “belonging” in bronze would still be made, they would just be aimed at NSP.
My third point is that the during league week 5, Sorrows Furnace lost to HoD by only 50k points. If HoD doesn’t belong in bronze then neither does SF because we’re pretty closely matched. (In league week 6 SF got crushed by over 140k but that’s not representative of the strength of the two servers because SF decided to take it easy that week).
Finally, in non-league weeks 35 through 41 HoD was ranked 18 and that was after slowly clawing its way up from rank 21. In the week immediately prior to the season HoD went up in rank to 17. Given the way Glicko ranking works it’s unlikely HoD could have done anything to jump higher than that.
I know WvW has serious population and coverage imbalances. Outside of this league stuff every server that isn’t Blackgate or Vizunah experiences it. There’s nothing anybody can do about that. All you can do is have good fights and keep improving yourself, your guild, and your server.
Here’s a big “/salute” to every FC and GoM that comes out and does their best in this tough fight. I’ll see you on the field.
And in what way does anything you’ve said have anything whatsoever to do with the point that it is foolish to have 30ish people capping a single ruin?
No, you should just stop to think about your question and learn why it’s bad on your own.
This makes no sense what so ever?
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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kitten Deth i know that i beat all you guys in 1v1’s but that doesnt mean you gotta spike.
Lost all respect for your guild.
Don’t base a whole guild off two people that were dueling. They were joking with the fear and then Deth started spiking apparently. Let’s all grow up and stop QQ.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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Hey HoD, doesn’t FC’s BL look at little too blue. I think they are sad that no one wants to play with them.
Well now that you mention it… It does look a little blue to me. Perhaps we had better paint it a lovely HoD green. In all seriousness last night [MU] ran in GoM pretty much all night. Take it as a complement because we flock to a good fight.
Sorry, but you guys just weren’t on the list at club North Camp during Primetime yesterday.
Hey HoD, doesn’t FC’s BL look at little too blue. I think they are sad that no one wants to play with them.
Well now that you mention it… It does look a little blue to me. Perhaps we had better paint it a lovely HoD green. In all seriousness last night [MU] ran in GoM pretty much all night. Take it as a complement because we flock to a good fight.
Sorry, but you guys just weren’t on the list at club North Camp during Primetime yesterday.
I can confirm the breakup of CoSA. I was one of the guild leaders of both CoSA guilds (and there are people in this thread that can attest to this), and today we officially broke apart due to internal fighting. You’ll likely still see a few tags running around, but it was a mess when I left the guild.
I also wanted to say… Great fight in ET’s Garrison a few days ago (Saturday). I was one of the two Commanders (StaR was the other guild, and we couldn’t have taken it without them) leading that, and I was the one who did the first push to break the doors down. It took a lot longer than I thought it would (I think the person recording said almost 2 hours), but still it was a lot of fun. And I will admit, there were a few times where I thought we weren’t going to take it (we also had to have people defending Bay from Kain and a few ET). But still ET put up a great fight in there, and I had a lot of fun… even if a 2 hour siege is stressful to the Commanders. lol
This is terrible news! CoSA I can say was the only real challenge we had down here in Bronze League. I hope the core members from CoSA get something going again and we can meet up again. I salute you CoSA.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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FC sucks! if only you guys had HOD’s skill and swagger maybe you wouldnt lose so bad!
Hey at least we didnt have to throw 3 weeks of WvW match ups to get into a lower league to make sure we won in a lower server. To scared to play where you belong right?
May have been the attitude before but we are pushing ourselves to Silver League now. We want the challenging fights and more organized guilds, so that little blurb you just said is getting old and it’s the only thing you can say since FC just stays in their towers and QQ in the corner.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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I believe that HoD is the best place to transfer for skilled players who want to play WvW for fun and blob-free-lag-free-fights.
Idk where these skilled players are, lately its been 1v3+ where people only to wipe and come back with more numbers, they run into towers to man siege and never come out alone. If zerging is skill then I guess HoD is winning. So far only people to give me a fair fight have been Yarr and they are from FC originally… Also please HoD stop with the emotes after it takes 7+ to kill 2 guys, seriously only 1 more week and your server goes bye bye to silver league, Ahh there is some skilled GoM though, that one necro got me good , props to the Gom necro!
I find it very humorous, someone from [Deth] even mentioning or QQ’ing about Zergs.
err you mean the guys who 15 v 40+ your blobs, yeah… On another note I find it funnier you call a 20 man at max guild a zerg compared to your organized tactical groups of 40+… No QQ from [Deth] I am a roamer so dw most of the time I bash your faces in without a blob. That is until 4 more come to gank me and jump around and emote like some accomplishment was made :P
Do me a favor tell me when you see [MU] with a 40 man blob thx.
You mean the guys we ganked earlier? MU thief and guardian ele and etc. Yeh your skilled 4 man group was so good.. too bad you died to another 4 man group that fought you as well. I can respect skilled in 1vx not xv1 like you were pulling, ganking anyone with your group, until you ticked me off and i got a 4 man to gank you back, all were squishy, except for some of you running perma stealth, evade or cloaking off everything, nice try though. When you get better I might say “Hey Mu man they are so good”, but no I lost respect once you ganked me with a 4 man and wiped soon after to my 4 man, thnx
yeah, I don’t play thief, I play a necro I do little to no roaming. You seem to be confused hope that cleared it up. Now speaking open field wise, why have I never seen [Deth] alone with this 20 man super group that is so elite and dominant? I usually see [Deth] and around 20-30 pugs/militia.
My last comment still firmly stands, how can you even talk about people having no skill and being zerglings when your guild does the same?
So far in this match up, a good portion of time we have worked as a support group for a much larger group. Since the HoD groups are generally to large for a 20 man (normally a 15 to 12 man) to wipe, we assist the larger group in taking and defending objectives. Though our movements are different and separate of the larger group. For example, me might push in behind you while your fighting the main force and kill your back line while sandwiching the front line. Though there have been occasions, where numbers was with in the limits of what we are capable of wiping alone and we went in and did so. But if you have only seen us when we are assisting our larger group, that means there was an even larger HoD group about and you would most likely apart of that group. So one could conclude that you are probably a zergling. But eh, don’t take my word for it. My information and content is probably twisted by my own interests.
Edit: In response to Bllades, not at all most of us enjoyed Friday night.
Don’t worry bud we’ve got a GvG coming
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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100 man Hod Zergs in each BL. HOD should be in Silver since they have the numbers. Not fun to be outmanned constantly. Want to stay motivated but its not easy.
Too bad we’re still one of the lost population servers. GG GG
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Oooooohhhh, lowest. I was looking at that going “WHAT IS THIS?” Haha
Yeah, bull. We have a very high WvW population since leagues started, something about being in the top position, it’s weird.
Good thing everyone is leaving as soon we move up to silver so we don’t have to worry about those transfer people smudging our name with all the bragging and fairweathers dancing on corpses (QUIT QUEING THE MAPS AND LET THE REAL HoD PLAY YA BUNCH OF BANDWAGGONERS AND SERVER DESERTERS!!). It’ll go back to us being outnumbered. Ahhh, it’ll be nice.
Keep up the good fight FC and GoM, I’m still waiting to see who is going to take 4th!
Tell us how you really feel…
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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[MU] Had a fun time on FC BL today fighting their server force and then the smaller groups through out the night. Hopefully you guys keep coming all week.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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I hope today’s lack of attendance from SF isn’t going to be a pattern for the rest of the week. Just come out to fight and not worry about PPT or your keeps.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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Once again, CoSA great GvG! Once you guys get some more under your belt and keep going at it, you’re going to be unstoppable.
Below is the link to the GvG video, we did have one round before these three but as soon as we started the GvG a person came into our TS and started yelling directions. We are not blaming CoSA for this because we know they are better than that but SF stay classy.
You clearly have way more numbers why is this a “Highlight”? I think you need set some higher standers for a “Highlight”
Thanks for the comment GenerationX.9178! We clearly do have WAY more numbers then SF on all these fights! What was I thinking about making this a highlight video, I apologize about that and will take it into major consideration for next week.
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“Someone laid down beside me, it reflects poorly on your server” – Said a sore loser somewhere. QQ more.
BTW – [MU]+puggies yesterday had 38 players + Sup AC as backup at one point. (when you kill someone and just stand there, it’s easy to count) – You can stop lying about your numbers now. That, btw, is 35% pugs if you can math. CoSA’s group had 32 players though 30 mins before it was 44, but bedtime was starting to make itself felt.
Also, writing kitten yourself gets you infracted by egotistical mods. Time for a signature!
So you don’t count your LH/Burn/other random puggies? Meh back to this groups size stuff, lets go even numbers?
CoSA commander tried contacting [MU] for GvG but they didn’t reply to his requests, surprisingly enough. And yes, I do count em.
Tell this commander to whisper me please. I’m more than welcome to accept his request to GvG. Also why do so many people talk for CoSA except for actual CoSA members? Last time I checked MU and CoSA have a pretty good competitive relationship.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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“Someone laid down beside me, it reflects poorly on your server” – Said a sore loser somewhere. QQ more.
BTW – [MU]+puggies yesterday had 38 players + Sup AC as backup at one point. (when you kill someone and just stand there, it’s easy to count) – You can stop lying about your numbers now. That, btw, is 35% pugs if you can math. CoSA’s group had 32 players though 30 mins before it was 44, but bedtime was starting to make itself felt.
Also, writing kitten yourself gets you infracted by egotistical mods. Time for a signature!
Thanks ptitminou.6489! I really appreciate you taking the time to count our numbers. I’ve been running my tag of late because of the PvE content distracting our other guilds so there will be more numbers. MU wise there still will only be 20-25.
If you’re talking about the defense on hills if you look at the video that I just posted you can count our numbers also, something for you to work on when you’re dead.
[MU] Gornok In Victori
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, Ahh there is some skilled GoM though, that one necro got me good , props to the Gom necro!
