Guild Wars 2

Serebus.7314:

Evalana.5480:

IBountyHunterI.4601:

PredatoR.5247:

burningoat.7052:

Man agg you must be mad about losing that GvG now you are running in full zerg with ARK now too ,you should really try to tune your skills instead of zerg dogging around to compensate for your lack of skill

we beat qT and NS in Guild vs Guild, what are you talking about? The only guild with bragging rights to talking kitten to us is [EP].

GvG = Open Field AMIRITE?

GvG is typically fought in an open field. So yeah, I guess you’re right!

GvG is also fought in wvw. so WvW = GvG. All GvG guilds are the same as PPT guilds Yay we are all friends who wants to hug?

I’d like to agree, but anet dev’s confirmed they are 2 seperate things

burningoat.7052:

Man agg you must be mad about losing that GvG now you are running in full zerg with ARK now too ,you should really try to tune your skills instead of zerg dogging around to compensate for your lack of skill

we beat qT and NS in Guild vs Guild, what are you talking about? The only guild with bragging rights to talking kitten to us is [EP].

I challenged Rockfoo (qT) to a GvG since he is upset about open field results, but didn’t reply. I can post proof if needed, the one thing I never understand is how people take credit for another guilds work. Props to [EP], they beat us in GvG, but qT and NS didn’t, get over it kids.

Agg vs NS 15v15:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HVmuG5sF2g&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL8TBW3H8l4RgwiSOVUiw5dNO1tbi8kNtn

Agg vs qT 15v15:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rj9AL5Stpw&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL8TBW3H8l4RgwiSOVUiw5dNO1tbi8kNtn

oh yea, did I mention both were 15v15’s?

covenn.7165:

TW looking for people to fight as always.

Having little luck due to being stuck in our same basic match-up for weeks on end.

transfer to fort aspenwood

Is anybody else excited for this matchup? I am and can’t wait for it to happen. Since ANET tossed us aside into this dead section of their forum, I had idea. Might not work, but it is worth a try. We can make topics of GvG matches we are interested in according to the GvG site: http://www.gw2gvg.com/upcoming.php
and have people comment and drop opinions on them.

Personally I don’t know which to root for, I am a [GD] fan but my money is on [Scnd]. Not to say that [VII] is not good, I just like [Scnd] playstyle more but… [VII] did beat [Scnd] about a month ago.. who knows I am looking forward to watching this on GvG showdown.

Video of [Scnd]: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M_Lu6HJvcVI&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL7JhWRJSQjB07J0gAwNVDJ8-bOl5ujWku

Video of [VII]: um …

actually, ^ yes.

If [Agg] were to travel to an EU server, would guilds stay up to GvG us on weekends?

Weekends at around 7-8 pm PST time

Aeros.2046:

Some youtube of the war in Borlis Borderlands on Saturday.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hs1V2TQ4Zw

map zerg vs 15-20 man teams, grats your very skilled

eithinan.9841:

PredatoR.5247:

[rB] is a ppt guild

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qlNOwtAXd6A

AGG is a hammer guild…

[attach random gvg video they are in]

edit: And that video is kind of misrepresenting things considering you wont do anything less than 20v20. Where is the individual skill that neo and morpheus represent? Certainly not at fight clubs.

http://www.gw2gvg.com/guild.php?id=29

if you are so skilled, 1v1 me

[rB] is a ppt guild

Hickeroar.9734:

Sorry, didn’t want that to come across as a rebuttal. I just wanted you to know that we plan on being on the same page in that regard. :-)

i love you

Hickeroar.9734:

PredatoR.5247:

Anywho, most of the guilds in t2 CAN bring 20v20, they just refuse to. These guilds are [NS], [EP], [RE]

For the record: EP will definitely be doing 20v20 in the future. We’re just working on comp and tactics at the moment, until we feel comfortable with it. We know Agg is extremely strong in 20v20 & 25v25, so we’ll definitely want to go down that road. :-)

I know I didn’t say it wasn’t in your plan for the future, and we really look forward to it.
The number differences in the 5v5 10v10 15v15 20v20 is all different weight classes I believe.
you have featherweights, lightweights, middleweights and heavyweights

You can’t run the same comp from one weight to the other, it’ll just get destroyed. We played 10v10 15v15 and 20v20 and out of the 3 we prefer 20v20. It is not like we have never lost in 20v20, [TW] is living proof that we are in fact not unbeatable in 20v20.
We also find more excitement in 20v20 than in 15v15. It might be just us, but that is what we prefer, along with the other reasons listed above.
10v10 < Least fun, boring in our personal opinion
15v15 < It is okay, but definitely not the excitement we are looking for
20v20 < We prefer this most, probably because it is what we fell in love with when we were watching Red Guard: http://www.gw2gvg.com/guild.php?id=38

to clear up any misconceptions, no it isn’t because we lost to [EP] in a 15v15.
We have never been fond of 15v15 to begin with, mainly because we are one of the few guilds who can proudly field 30 average per day open field. GvG is a simulation of open field, in even numbers. 20v20 is the golden spot where a guild roams in daily average. As a guild, we rarely roam with 15 on official runs you will see us with 20-30. GvG’ing 15v15 5 times in a row, is demoralizing to some of our players. For us, all of our players are decent enough to GvG. There is not one player in Aggression that I can say “I didn’t want to put them in, that is why we lost”. We usually have 15v15, with 15 more spectators of our own guild. It is not fair to our guild and our members did not join the guild to watch GvG’s. They joined to play in GvG, with that said, we can not shuffle all of our members in and out in a 15v15.

I know, people will say it was because we lost to [EP] but we are in no way upset about it. We never cared much about the ratings, except for [TW] which we still consider our main rivals. The argument being made with the posts I am seeing about us refusing to do 15v15 for personal reasons is also kittened. That is like saying [NS] is scared of [AoN] because [NS] wont do a 10v10, or [Agg] is scared of [Pk] because [Agg] wont fight 5v5 or 10v10. Sure, your guild may only have 10 people online and that is fine but a GvG is setup to come to terms with both guilds. This is why we did not use ghost tonic against [RE] to prepare for fighting [TW] without them.

Anywho, most of the guilds in t2 CAN bring 20v20, they just refuse to. These guilds are [NS], [EP], [RE]
And I respect their decisions, in no way am I calling them bad or scared. They prefer 15v15 and that is okay with me but we have too many decent players in our guild under our own standards to keep them bored for 1-2 hours watching 15 of us fight while they sit there and fall asleep.

[ZN] will be our last 15v15 fight, we will only be accepting 20v20’s after [ZN] gvg

Jahn.7019:

I was going to say the new 15s meta seems thief assist train, but the person who posted above says EU has been doing this for a while.

Guess NA is late to the party as always.

Actually that does look similar, I apologize for saying otherwise.
This is interesting

Jahn.7019:

PredatoR.5247:

Ogre.1750:

Oh my God????

Im speechless.. wth? I need more info on this

What happened? Any comment from EP as to setup, strat and overall hapenings?

woah

Underestimated, we had 3 ele’s online max, but even when putting them all on staff, the dual thief focus on them was too much, our casters got bursted down.
Second round we went in a little harder, but the thief pressure was too much. Now that we think back, there was a solution to the thief problem but it did not come to mind. And no, [EP] did not do what [RE] did to TW. Every round as soon as our casters were down, it was pretty much downhill, no matter how long we wanted to take the fight.

I could honestly say, our casters never had a thief like that put pressure and respect to [EP] for doing so. [EP]‘s melee train wasn’t a joke either, no matter how much damage we put on it, it outsustained our damage, especially since our casters were struggling staying alive. We tried 2 counter thiefs but it didnt help much.

In short, [EP]s thief pretty much scared our casters, the damage from casters wasn’t there anymore and they were still dying. No waterfields, so regroups, 13 other people putting pressure on myself (melee train). Aggression was countered.

Both those groups appear to be running the exact same strat and setup. While I did not participate in either, just go watch both those guild’s fights.

It’s the exact same thing that happened to both, the thieves were wrecking the backlines.

Like I said, the difference is TW adapted(watch the video), AGG’s backline kept getting wrecked over and over.

I’ll check it out, we do have a fight vs [RE] soon

Ogre.1750:

Oh my God????

Im speechless.. wth? I need more info on this

What happened? Any comment from EP as to setup, strat and overall hapenings?

woah

Underestimated, we had 3 ele’s online max, but even when putting them all on staff, the dual thief focus on them was too much, our casters got bursted down.
Second round we went in a little harder, but the thief pressure was too much. Now that we think back, there was a solution to the thief problem but it did not come to mind. And no, [EP] did not do what [RE] did to TW. Every round as soon as our casters were down, it was pretty much downhill, no matter how long we wanted to take the fight.

I could honestly say, our casters never had a thief like that put pressure and respect to [EP] for doing so. [EP]‘s melee train wasn’t a joke either, no matter how much damage we put on it, it outsustained our damage, especially since our casters were struggling staying alive. We tried 2 counter thiefs but it didnt help much.

In short, [EP]s thief pretty much scared our casters, the damage from casters wasn’t there anymore and they were still dying. No waterfields, so regroups, 13 other people putting pressure on myself (melee train). Aggression was countered.

I know [Agg] was only the Unofficial kings of NA, but today we got aced in 7-0 to [EP].
We in Aggression are very excited by this along with our friends [NS]. Guilds in NA are rapidly progressing and it is really making happy to know that this is happening.

This GvG deserves it’s recognition, because a guild we didn’t think much of showed us what they are made of, we got shutdown hands down. I look forward to this being on GvG showdown, congratulations Everything Purple!

Wompage.4586:

Pinko.2076:

People need to be careful about adding too many rules to this stuff.

100% this.

There’s also a danger of this snowballing out of control. It starts off with banning warbanners & food, then its no veils, then no timewarps, and so on and so on.

Food can make or break a spec, if we want to encourage build diversity, and a diverse meta, food has to be included in that. Without food you’ll just find specs/gear that can afford to run without those stats (you’ll see much more PVT)

I agree with this, if your entire comp is countered by one food then there is something wrong with your comp and should immediately be revised or adjusted.

3 Warbanners seems pretty reasonable to me, that is enough to revive 15 people.

Gellor.6497:

Can we take this to the DB forums? Leave these forums for the GvG vids cause that is all I want ATM. SOMEOME POST ONE

This man is a boss

Slushey.8236:

You had a spy in TeamSpeak feeding you everything War Sock said. Originally it was one spy, who when we moved to another channel renamed himself to ‘Onahti’. After having to reverify everybody in channel we finally caught him and banned him. Then you send in ‘Sam’ and ’D’Jasper’ who start yelling in the channel over the top of War Sock. Then you yourself (‘J E R I C O’) join and we have to ban you, followed by Filth, Changelings, Kyotie, Kevyn Sorbo, blackhowling, Fabo, Cozert, Nfn and TheKilling. Before denying any of these are yours, I believe you included a screenshot of your guild showing several of them by name:

!https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/96572/gw201.jpg!

How the hell would I send in 2 people to yell if we all got banned

Angel.6085:

PredatoR.5247:

All [Agg] did was move to Green Borderlands Team 1 channel, and got instant banned.
We were going to have a good time leading on your teamspeak in a seperate channel while fighting you, what are you so upset about?

Have a good day sir

Bull and you know it, Jericho was responding to Warsock via PM specifically to things he said in TS. You guys dropped class tonight big time. What’s the most pathetic is that you didn’t even need to spy on TS to be good but you did anyway and your leader dropped class horribly. Whatever respect you had for the skill you have is gone. It’s a shame, but nothing to dwell on.

And to AoN who keeps talking about wiping us, congrats on wiping an up level zerg of level 20’s who you STILL had to pick off the slow pokes one by one to get the group of about 15 lvl 20’s and 2 lvl 80’s down enough to make it manageable for you. :P

You act as if [Agg] doesn’t have friends on DB
we were on the server before and are friendly with a lot of guilds there. As if people didn’t tell me what you were saying and informing me of how many people you actually had.
You tried to lie saying you only had 48, when you had close to 70.

warsock.7830:

Hello here, warsock.. commander of DB “Blobzerg” Yeah we had 63. Exact numbers messaged to me by jericho. I have no idea how many agg had, I know TC had a que regardless. I just wanted to get the map back and people showed up. Just to clear the record. I had a ton of respect for agg before this. I even asked jericho for advise a few times on how to get better. Granted rB is in fact not a GvG guild we actively attempt to improve our game every day.

All of this BS aside. Agg joining DB TS and trolling was beyond wtf. Have some self respect. Everyone knows agg is good but you cant have your cake and eat it. My 63 man blob zerg will beat you every single time. I don’t care how good you are. Its easy to opportunistically wipe people in open field with people in teamspeak. You have shown many times how good agg is with GvGs why stoop to such levels for basic WvW?

and to whoever the random dude is who keeps claiming to wipe rB. I think you got the non raid day up level zerg. Pics or it did not happen.

Also also also, jericho if you are a real man lets have a word on TS.

All [Agg] did was move to Green Borderlands Team 1 channel, and got instant banned.
We were going to have a good time leading on your teamspeak in a seperate channel while fighting you, what are you so upset about?

Have a good day sir

Noobles.4325:

a mag thread is normally 10 pages by now :O they probably all busy pveing

#MagSwag

I personally don’t believe the single targeting tactic works at all.
Had it on me most times and if I really needed it I would just get banner’ed back up while they would sacrifice 3 of their players for me in downstate, or an ele on my team.

Only our warriors and myself run tonics 95% of the time, leaving our ele’s and other casters vulnerable to single targeting. I am still vulnerable to single targeting because I use my sunrise every fight, and I am the only guardian in ghost.

The only reason I don’t believe ghost is an advantage is because it is a consumable. Anybody can use it, it is not some software to give you the advantage, or an arrow cart you build. It is just like food and oil, you pop it and bam your a ghost.
If we are going to start attacking a consumable because it disguises a kittenty appearance for a kitten blue ghost, then we should address the issue of warbanner as well.

Warbanner if anything should be removed from GvG or even up for discussion. Bringing people back from the dead 15 times is worse than a blue ghost imo.

[Agg]ression is challenging all Tarnished Coast guilds to GvG starting Saturday.
We’d like to fight all of the guilds on TC interested in GvG, especially [RE] Rethesis.

[Agg]ression is challenging all Tarnished Coast guilds to GvG starting Saturday.

We’d like to fight all of the guilds on TC interested in GvG, especially [RE] Rethesis.

Drigan.7382:

Monkish Delights.2591:

PredatoR.5247:

good fights [HOPE] and [RAM]!
It was very interesting and challenging taking on both guilds at once, very intense stuff.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcouV9feXao

To be fair between both guilds we had about even numbers give or take a few pugs that wandered into the fight
Was fun either way, took us a a little to figure out what to do with that pain train of yours.

As a server we had numbers on them. They had about 33, we had 20, RAM had about 20, and there were a few FA that found their way there, where there weren’t many stray SoS. Too bad we didn’t have more fights this week though.

we can still GvG its only thursday lad

Monkish Delights.2591:

PredatoR.5247:

good fights [HOPE] and [RAM]!
It was very interesting and challenging taking on both guilds at once, very intense stuff.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcouV9feXao

To be fair between both guilds we had about even numbers give or take a few pugs that wandered into the fight
Was fun either way, took us a a little to figure out what to do with that pain train of yours.

both hope and ram had 23-25.

good fights [HOPE] and [RAM]!
It was very interesting and challenging taking on both guilds at once, very intense stuff.

Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=hcouV9feXao

Video of us struggling to handle 2 groups from 2 opposite servers at the same time.

3 way action like that is fun as hell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejSehLVDJes&feature=c4-overview-vl&list=PL8TBW3H8l4RhMM8vBvqtU1ij_MXGAqvhZ

selan.8354:

EFWinters.5421:

Good post, but I don’t think it will all be implemented.

For me, removing player damage to gates and reducing treb range would work wonders.

yes that pvdooring and thieves tagging the gate to contest wp is ridiculous atm. having trebs using supply in keep favors zergs that build a treb in open field and u cant countertreb and have to wait helpless inside till zerg trebs walls down and storms in.

anet should improve defense for keeps and towers. atm a zerg gan just take everything in minutes. omega golems are hard to counter as noone can really be o the walls if a 60 man zerg hits keep. there should be viable counters to all that, but hey we got treb mastery and next update it will be golem mastery that will destroy wvw for good.

how about new upgrades for towers and keeps?
how about making it harder for the enemy to get to the keep. trebs are hard to counter like the ones from smc and the ones form woodhaven to garry. they can hit you, but u cant hit them.
treb mastery could make things worse and i see a new “ac-like disaster coming up”

Zergs cannot take everything, if they are stopped by a group more coordinated, skilled, and tactical than the zerg.

The Zerg can only achieve victory against small groups they outnumber, in which makes sense to me. Why should a group of 5 people be able to hold off 60 people. I have seen groups of 15-30 contain and/or kill entire zergs of 60+.

Using only their skill and knowledge of the game’s combat system.

If you are refusing to join a dedicated WvW guild, the most you can do is man an arrow cart if they refuse to have you on their voice comms. If they allow you in the voice comms, join in and be part of the action.

x per fection x.2096:

Here’s the two uninterrupted Scrim/GvG’s between [DERP] & [RE]. It did suck getting hit for 8-9k backstabs but all the more reason for ANET to give up on this biweekly temp content BS and give us somewhere to do GvG’s.

http://youtu.be/WTpR9Sqzjlc

nice, if [RE] can get 2-3 on [TW]
and if [DERP] can do that to [RE], what would be the result in [DERP] vs [TW]????

there is already enough stat buffs in this game in WvW with food and consumables builds etc..

You should just add a 200% Magic Find relic, now that’d be interested, that way I can make more loot!

Maguuma and Dragonbrand GvG guilds should take advantage of this week, it is a very good week to get a lot of GvG’s going. We in Aggresssion [Agg] are pretty jealous of Maguuma, since they get to fight the TC GvG guilds. The last thing PYRO and kitten should worry about it skill lag and zergs, just use that to pick out guilds you are interested in GvG’ing. I am really looking forward to the following:

• [DERP] vs [qT] / [DERP] vs [TSL] / [DERP] vs [NS] / [DERP] vs [EP] / [DERP] vs [CERN] / [DERP] vs [RE]

• [NS] vs [DERP] | [NS] vs [CERN] | [NS] vs [TSL] | [NS] vs [PYRO] | [NS] vs [RE] | [NS] vs [EP]

• [PYRO] vs [qT] | [PYRO] vs [CERN] | [PYRO] vs [RE] | [PYRO] vs [NS] | [PYRO] vs [TSL] | [PYRO] vs [FIRE] | [PYRO] vs [rB] | [PYRO] vs [EA]

Those are all of the GvG matches I look forward to watching throughout the week. Hopefully all are willing to participate to test their strength, official or unofficial. I pray that you will do the GvG’s and make the most of your dream matchup. Please give it your all for those of you who are GvG’ing and those of you who aren’t, what are you doing??

ETA for Episode 5???!?!!!!

Nakoor.1980:

PredatoR.5247:

WRod.3856:

I love how TW’s staff eles use the tornado exploit in the GvG. Cast meteor shower then jump into tornado..

Play fair kids. no need to cheat.

Win at whatever cost.

TW slogan

I would say let’s relive that old fight of ours, but you seem to have gone and jumped servers again.

WRod.3856:

I love how TW’s staff eles use the tornado exploit in the GvG. Cast meteor shower then jump into tornado..

Play fair kids. no need to cheat.

Win at whatever cost.

TW slogan

theres actually a lot more diversity than that…

BUT I AGREE

Thief, Engineers, and Rangers are not as IMPORTANT as the most common class:

Guardian
Warrior
Elementalist
Mesmer
Necromancer

Wompage.4586:

PredatoR.5247:

agg has siezed #1 NA wooooppiieeee

Any plans for an EU tour?

Actually yes, Thanksgiving and or Xmas break.

The only reason we aren’t already in EU is because we are afraid we wouldnt be able to catch the EU champions by the time we login

Caliban.3176:

PredatoR.5247:

agg has siezed #1 NA wooooppiieeee

Congrats, you’re now the best of the worst!

#Signs up after RG quits

agg has siezed #1 NA wooooppiieeee

Thanks for GvG [NS] unfortunately our D/D ele Serane could not make a video of all the rounds since his internet was kitten.

That kitten was amazing, we were impressed with [qT] but WOW, way to slap us in the kittening face. I am positive you can beat [Tw] both you and [qT] no doubt. Good job, very intense fight, I haven’t yelled that loud ever.

this will be fixed in 6 months in a new “great wvw patch”

does this affect GvG 15v15 as well???

Sounds to me like all the cry babies in this topic are coming from NA tier 1.
Would be more correct for any American comments to be directed at the Tier 1 section. Those guys love to blob, recruit more coverage, refuse to GvG, make excuses for open field fights, run into towers, build arrow carts, spam ballistas, and boast about how good their SEA/ EU coverage is. Those are what I call, noob casual E-RP’ers.

The people complaining are obviously inbred as hell. I would recommend just shaking your head after reading the topic creators first post.

Diehard.1432:

So let me get this straight, we beat you maguuman with our superior numbers( and we acknowledged that too), and then for some reason you all got kitten for getting rolled over by our zergs, you came here crying about it on the forum and at the same time you bragged on how good your individual PvP skills are; of which we don’t care about? QQ much?

Jade Quarry is one of the few servers who as a majority, hates Guild vs Guild. While we were on the server we were talked about in a bad manner for doing a Guild vs Guild while Jade Quarry was losing. (Jade Quarry is always losing in t1).
The overall public population on the server strives for an invisible trophy at the end of every week and pride themselves on meaningless T1 victories they previously had. It is your typical T1 server mentality and with that I leave you to know that you will probably get some GvG off Jade Quarry on Thursday.

Though do not be surprised bad guilds on Jade Quarry attempting to crash GvG do show up, just simply have one of your guilds protecting it with 15 people and I am sure that should be enough to protect it. These pug zergs crashing GvG always get wiped and humiliated.

great fights so far, looks like a kitten week cant wait till our scheduled GvG’s

sent GvG challenges to all guilds on Db

unfortunately only [qT] and [NS] are willing to GvG at the moment, hope the rest of you plan to fight us soon