Guild Wars 2

Worban.1574:

Thanks and well said, malixor. This is much bigger than the issue of points. It is taking a stand and making a strong statement in favor of fair play.

And for those of you who ONLY care about the points and how you finish in the rankings, think of the alliance this way…we will help ensure, almost lock in your second place finish. If you are completely focused on taking us down, well you’ll see from last week that’s all fine and good now, during these hours when you feel strong.

But you don’t want to be fighting against us during prime-time, not when you’re struggling for a hold of second place. Certainly not until we each have full control of our own BL and our own halves of Mag map. Basically, when we’ve divided everything pretty much down the middle, pushing mag out, we unleash hell on each other and have a lot of fun in the process.

So think of it this way, we are guaranteeing you points, uncontested. Yes, you can say the same about us, but frankly, we we’re not doing this looking for such a guarantee; we don’t need it. We simply want to show Mag that stuff they’ve done to BOTH our servers on the first day will not be tolerated and they deserve to finish in last place, dropping further down the ladder, because they’re known to use these methods in every match-up and some of them are even proud of it!

~said DH as they seiged NSP’s garrison and attacked NSP’s corner of EB while half of DH’s bl and almost all of Maguuma’s bl were green (:

@trapline

Yeah but it’s our borderlands so it’s fair game. We’ve been struggling to keep/make progress in NSP bl and EB for the past few hours. The other bl have no NSP presence really lol. If anyone ‘broke’ a ‘pact’ it was DH cuz that’s still only half their bl and they have a pretty solid presence in our bl. So to just build on what my fellow NSPers said earlier, any ‘pact’ we have is kittenlitter

Note: What do the bigshot guilds on NSP and DH know about [VIP]? Why do they have a foot in each server lol? I know they ragequit because nobody took them seriously the past few weeks, but has their rage gone as far as spying?

I’m seeing lots of VIP on DH and on NSP lol. I wonder if there’s something going on there

You guys do realize that when people say ‘PvEing’ in WvW they’re talking about being ridiculously outmanned, right? Even if you’re not having to deal with just NPC’s, 20-30+ zergs vs non-peak forces is still a trample. The few seconds to minutes extra that you have to spend on a camp/tower just because there are a handful of players is pretty negligible when that team can’t realistically take back areas in an equally timely manner. Also if there is more than 1 zerg, the opposition can probably only realistically slow down 1. If you’re in the zerg that’s being slowed down, chances are it’s easy pickings for someone else at that time, just check the wvw map every 30-60 seconds.

The only people who really wouldn’t be able to understand the difference between full and thin opposing forces are probably just those who mindlessly sit in aoe and sieges and end up dying regardless of the situation. Oh and probably those who go off on their own or in small packs and meet up with a small pack from the other servers and lose.

tl;dr: u r bad @ wvw, yw

Actium.8765:

@Rashka Yes you guys did beat us… But not as bad as you think. To be honest I think it made us better.

http://mos.millenium.org/matchups/history/2#NA

They had over a 100k differential on you..that’s pretty bad? And the 2nd point is irrelevant on that topic.

Cisco.9637:

Dear PaooPaoo(VIP),

Please feel free, at your convenience of course, to send me my silver back. It was a pleasure helping out yesterday building siege, but seeing as you guys are sissy hoppers, I’m ashamed I even helped :P.

All the best,
Baelwer

Just learned from a friend that VIP jumped to DH rofl

For Faux Sake.8457:

As someone who has literally no social life to speak of and spends far too much time in WvW, I believe my word has at least a little weight to it when I say that there really were issues with people hacking. I was there for it once each week, watching with a single lone tear in my eye as a naked dude danced through the air with our orb to the other side of the map.

There’s been no cheating this week. You guys have won fair and square, and bravo for besting us (not that we were too difficult haha). Just try not to write EB off as a bunch of whiners when we’ve really been kind of on the stink end of the smelly finger that is WvW for the past couple weeks.

I know I speak for all of NSP when I say that EB has our respect for you having that name lol. Well played bro.

Aldare.5836:

Well that’s it. Good game DH you’ve won this. I’d like to say I’m not bitter about this, but I’d be lying. This match was incredibly frustrating from start to finish, and I’ll be glad when it’s over.

We’ll be against DH again and Maguuma in our next matchup in ~20hrs so it doesn’t really make too much of a difference. It’d be the same ranking (15th) had we come from behind and won too. Though it would’ve been pretty sweet lol.

Arius.7031:

Reido Kyuuten.4709:

@Arius

We’d have to average a differential of ~300 on DH for the next 20hrs (I think that’s when the matchups reset?) in order to win at this point. It’s too late. Maybe if we had started chipping away at that 40k lead a day earlier, we’d have had a realistic chance.

We had a similar (though not as bad to be honest) mountain to climb in our fight against SoR and SF. We made up enough points that we came within 1k of beating Sorrow’s Furnace. Don’t give up, more fun for everyone!

P.S. At this very moment, reset is 24 hours away. It’s 5pm PST.

Ah ok, I wasn’t sure when it ended. Well that means we have to average about +215 in the next 23hrs now. It’d be cool if we pulled that off but I think DH has probably increased alert so +20k in the next 23hrs is probably just out of reach.

@Arius

We’d have to average a differential of ~300 on DH for the next 20hrs (I think that’s when the matchups reset?) in order to win at this point. It’s too late. Maybe if we had started chipping away at that 40k lead a day earlier, we’d have had a realistic chance.

Aliases.8354:

Aldare.5836:

I’m honestly unsure of what to say regarding NSP right now. Last week we fought tooth and nail against YB/SoR and lost by a small margin. Now it just feels like a lot of the server has given up since that loss. I’ve seen significantly fewer players on lately and it shows in our inability to hold the map. I’ve been fighting since reset but now even I’m starting to feel demoralized. It’s not so much the score, but the general “I give up” feeling the server has currently. I wish we could rally and show DH and EB what we’re really capable of.

Given up? They own most of the maps last I saw maybe an hour ago, seems you guys have a night team

It’s actually within a few hours of peak for NSP right now. It’ll die down in ~5hrs. Also NSP has had no queues in WvW all week whereas at least have 2 of the 4 zones have had queues during the day and into the night in past weeks so Aldare has a point. I know at least I’m part of that population that Aldare described.

Just wanted to post this link in case you hadn’t seen it yet: http://mos.millenium.org/matchups#NA

Congrats on the win DH. If the current trend continues for the rest of the week, you’ll probably be getting your next shot at SoR in two weeks since they will probably move up two brackets next week, after slaughtering GoM. (I’m making the assumption that SoR will pad their lead more and move to the 9th spot as Blackgate spanks TC harder.) This rating system is kinda annoying (and now outdated?) since GoM jumped us (NS), SoR and Yak’s just because they slaughtered this bracket last week and moved into a bracket where they clearly didn’t belong. I hope ANet really updates their rating system because the slaughtering of ‘lesser’ servers to make huge jumps in rankings should be toned down now since evenly matched servers have been up against each other fairly often in the past two weeks.

Aseyhe.2948:

Reido Kyuuten.4709:

that seems like a very slow way to kill normal pve mobs since you have to wait for the burst cooldown that you’re relying so much on. also increasing fight time to take zero damage versus marginal non-lifethreatening damage is seeming very overrated.

…the whole point is to take on opponents that are actually dangerous. If you’re fighting easy enemies one at a time then do whatever you want.

so you’re basically talking about mobs in parts of dungeons and not talking about general pve where you can just slaughter and move on. if that’s the case, fleeing from foes that you will most of the time have to go back and finish off causes them to regen health and adds more time to the time consuming killing that you’re already doing. axe/warhorn is still better here since you can run around keeping aggro and laying down fire w/ a longbow switch for them to run through. or you could still keep your hammer and stun/crip everyone and run through them with a cyclone axe or regular swipes every few seconds if you wanted. this whole thing about running from mobs is a bit overkill. as long as you’re not cripped or immobilized, getting away isn’t very difficult, but if you really need it to be a 1 button thing, all i can say is enjoy your gs #3 skill while reducing your overall viability. honestly ‘gs look awesome’ is a better argument to use a gs.

also, @easymodex this is about pve but yeah if you are taking on that many invaders at once you have a problem beyond weaponset

that seems like a very slow way to kill normal pve mobs since you have to wait for the burst cooldown that you’re relying so much on. also increasing fight time to take zero damage versus marginal non-lifethreatening damage is seeming very overrated. i’m assuming the advantage of cripple here is to keep foes off of you to wait for your recharges, which adds to my argument for not needing to prolong battles so much.

cripple to me is useful only for stopping fleeing foes and to keep bosses off of me while i range. i’m not sure why you seem to need it for mass mobs.

having axe/warhorn, you can just dodge out of battle for a few seconds to let healing signet (and adrenal health if you have it) boost you up a bit before rampaging again. also, you free up your weapon switch for a ranged weapon (longbow massive aoe burning and damage or rifle for single foes). if you throw on your speedboost and switch to bow, you can use the burst and just have your foes run through the firefield, hurting them as you heal.

edit: you can also spam earthshaker on its cooldown with axe if you still choose hammer as your weapon switch

edit2: axe users are able to get hit less often because their main form of damage doesn’t make them immobile. and being able to whirlwind and roll is not really a big advantage, if at all, over singlerolling through the foes and hitting warhorn 4 and getting outa there.

Aseyhe.2948:

Right, but no offhand compares to Whirlwind Attack for my purposes.

you’re right there but there is no need to whirl out of battle if you have a shield or knock foes down. also being more mobile with an axe makes you get hit less often so you last longer in battle and don’t have to whirl out, therefore doing more dps at the same time when compared to a gs user who needs to whirl out. and when needed, doubleroll is always a viable option.

overall i feel that axe/warhorn is a superior option for your playstyle if you can just get over the fact that you don’t have whirlwind but are compensated by a speedboost that removes crip, chill, and immobilize and have access to your roll when you finally do end up taking too much damage

Aseyhe.2948:

Mister Kitty.6718:

Axe mainhand -DESTROYS- Greatsword. Mobility + Damage, 3000 damage autoattack crits, you will never go back to Greatsword once you go Axe.

Vulnerability? Axe stacks 5 vulnerability on a single attack.
Cripple? Axe 3 >>> Greatsword 4.
Burst? Meet Eviscerate.

And don’t forget the offhand. Whether you want knockdowns, defenses, more mobility, bleeds, or just crazy AOE damage, you can equip it all and maintain the flexibility of choice.

Axe Warrior is best Warrior.

1. Greatsword does comparable damage to axe if you can use Hundred Blades on cooldown without interruption. Of course, typically that’s not the case, so in a mobile situation axe will do more damage.
2. Axe maintains 4.9 stacks of vulnerability using #2 on cooldown. Greatsword maintains 6.7 stacks of vulnerability while only using the autoattack — or roughly 4.6 stacks when using Hundred Blades on cooldown (and autoattacking otherwise).
3. Greatsword’s cripple hits multiple targets and lasts twice as long as the axe cripple if it makes a double hit. Assuming a double hit, it’s also a useful damaging skill in its own right (almost as much DPS as Hundred Blades). Has a slightly longer cooldown.

The real advantage to greatsword is survivability (#3), mobility (#3 and #5), and AoE control (#4). I don’t use it for the damage.

axe users are able to be mobile and get hit less often so there’s more survivability there. you can always doubleroll out intead of having to have greatsword #3. also, there’s always the shield offhand

axe users can warhorn offhand for increased mobility

cripple on greatsword is marginally better since hitting foes in a line rather than just 1 foe, but again if warhorn offhand, speedboost is better. there’s also always mace offhand.

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