Can anyone from DVG confirm how many Deso bads will be switching to Piken? This information will help others decide on their own future. Primarily the guild I play for and those on Piken who are already unhappy with the queues.
I’m not from DVG but I know they have a roster of 250 mostly active players since they’ve only been a guild for 2 months so my guess is over 100. Vii come to deso thanks <33
They already moved to Piken, wonder how welcomed they were xD, and Atoss we never have queues in all 4 maps at once and even less so now that 40 man DVG blob is gone.
mighty stop attack throma he was good guy and fighting to rebuild vizunah maybe if we decide to fight for real in league and win it we can have a sfr vs vizunah grand final that will make everyone amazed<3
(and then kill the servers because they wanna be in the top 1 without doing anything wow)
“everyone amazed” lolwat amazed at what server has the most people pressing 1 at once cos that is what it will be, idk how you consider a final of sfr vs Viz to be amazing when all it will be is what blob has the most people to press 1…
Honestly cant you guys change the topic of whining? Every week I read SFR blob, we dont have skill ect ect. But we havent been challenged on bl and eb for ages now?!?! Why think about yourselves and then cry for numbers… Ok I raid bl mostly in guild raid but even when I command still no challenge.the only challenge is GoD pain train if pugs dont listen…
Sorry but it gets boring,we have our good and bad sides but look yourselves and the speak and whine?
Our bl are empty through the day but we organize and cover and you cry we aare stacked wtf? you bring 100 to our t3 keeps or defend your t3 with 100 and siege and cry that we bring 100 too?!
Honestly I dont think bloodlust update on 17th will change something but at least you will have your chance to roam and fight small scale…..and try not to blob..
As for the week it is so boring even more than last we win matches in first 2 days I need kittening challenge to play if we lead to much is boring.
Every other server doesn’t have queues on all 4 maps through most of the day even Viz, don’t blame us for boring match-ups when you outnumbered us massively.
Nobody have said to keep this down so I can spread the worst news I have heard in months.
because of lack of leadership Wickie left gw2 still not back. zorrgo had real stuffs when he got back they decided to disband ecl and make a new guild and go to gunnars hold.
ecl is sadly gone.
DvG train your pugs and your raid leader seriously being farmed by pugs and stop lie to players your farming me i just started play today against you toke a break yesterday so you didn’t even fight me stop bloody lie and get some better players your inviting low-.
was running today upscaled lvl 18 guardian commander with blob was funny laughs when i died Q-Q
That’s pretty bad news for SFR, but I guess your new influx of pugs will take more than enough of their slots.
Although some of your points are correct Aneu I believe the overall post is very wrong. Your implying that GvG is as much a part of “World vs World” as using siege and having massive blobs engage each-other to defend an object.
The GvG community atm has a lot of hatred towards it because of how it acts, it is full of elitism and overall immaturity, during the recent PAX livestream where Anet revealed yet more PvE content the whole twitch chat was spammed with GvG and different guild tags some of them even top ones such as GD and yourselves VoTF, and I know this is just a select few of the GvG community but still it leaves a very bad taste of what the community itself is like.
Another reason I feel the WvW community doesn’t care at all about the GvG community and likes to see it suffer is because whenever there is a GvG scheduled the guilds spam map chat asking people to leave to get guild members in even though the randoms you are telling to leave are doing more for the server than the guild itself.
World vs World was created for sniping squads or massive zergs to engage each-other to defend or capture stuff but never was GvG planned and never was it meant to be a part of WvW when the developers created it, so I don’t see how you can say the GvG community is a part of the WvW community and I’m happy that Anet updates are slowly killing off the GvG scene but I do hope eventually they create an arena for you guys to keep you out of “World vs World”.
I’ve tested the staff auto-attack from guardians on both my asura and a male guardian, both of these have a quicker cast time than the female by about 0.3 seconds, this might not seem much but in WvW it has a big impact.
The animation itself takes the same amount of time but for some reason the hits don’t register until the end of the animation on Female Humans whereas other races/genders they register during the animation. This is 100% a game mechanic bug.
Most the time yeah, weekends we can manage maybe 25 on a good night. It’s the main reason Piken never really rose any higher in the rankings. The 1st time we faced Elona we had 6 players hold our keep for 4 hours agaisnt 60-70 of them. We’ve picked up a few more since also lost some too. Remember Piken is a server that rose from the bottom of the rankings to T2(old) without mass recruiting, we relied on the guilds we had and had a few more join but never got a night guild or major increase in the night population.
I need to call that bullkitten.
got many friends in piken and they see a lot ppls running solo if you get a good pug commander in the morning and not one that rage quit after first battle sure you can gather many.
I’ve played on both SFR and Piken and SFR has so much more coverage, only time Piken has queues is reset night and 6-9pm on 2/3 maps in prime time. In mornings we are outnumbered on all 2/3 of the 4 maps also. SFR however has 1 group hopping broderlands and 1 blob on EB. Piken probably has about 60% of the WvW population that SFR has.
Yeah, true that.
Sadly Anet does not approve, we felt it last weeks on our own skins.
It does suprise me tho that we do this good on Saturday…usually weekends are full slack for SFR.
Oh well…
Pretty ironic that these days SFR probably has the biggest income of points from night capping out of all EU servers :P
Btw France is in Europe
SFR night capped Viz massively for 5 days last week Viz just did better on the last 2 days by blobbing everything, generally Viz are best 8am-3pm, SFR 1am-5am.
Piken are just like SFR until Wemil decided to start laughing on the forum about the destruction his blobs caused and fair playto him, now it’s all abut blob VS blob as guilds migrate to lower tiers for organised “skilled” fights. I’ve seen more Piken blobs this week than I have seen AM, yeah the Piken blobs fight well, but AM blobs use more strategy and yet the forums are littered with Pikens moaning about blobbing.
Remember guys, Piken don’t blob and only prime time matters (surely if you were that great you would tick +400 during prime, no?)
Lol, If Piken had as many blobs as AM/Deso they wouldn’t be third, both AM and Deso are very high population, Piken is medium it doesn’t take a genius to work out who’s gonna have the most players and coverage.
I should have been clearer, they have the same attitude as SFR. Only fights matter, only prime time matters, guild groups don’t blob, we are always outnumbered, we never build many AC in towers, only the enemy spams AC etc.
I’d agree with you to an extent, but we’ve both played on both Deso and Piken and Piken really don’t use siege that much whether it’s a good or bad thing depends on how you see it but when you see Desolation building AC’s in open field then the server is no longer playing for fights imo.
I’m sure that you have seen it yourself many times when you arrive at enemy tower gate and expect commander to drop 2 rams, but then random ppl drop their own siege, often crap like balista etc and waste supply on it…
The same thing happens in the open field, haven’t seen any commander dropping siege or saying on TS “drop few ac here”, usually it’s the opposite “who the fk drop ac here”… Can’t control every person in your group so yeah, sometimes you see random siege.
Don’t blame whole server for actions of few players.
It’s the same guild blob I’ve seen doing it 4-5 times now and I’m sure most of you know which one it will be.
Piken are just like SFR until Wemil decided to start laughing on the forum about the destruction his blobs caused and fair playto him, now it’s all abut blob VS blob as guilds migrate to lower tiers for organised “skilled” fights. I’ve seen more Piken blobs this week than I have seen AM, yeah the Piken blobs fight well, but AM blobs use more strategy and yet the forums are littered with Pikens moaning about blobbing.
Remember guys, Piken don’t blob and only prime time matters (surely if you were that great you would tick +400 during prime, no?)
Lol, If Piken had as many blobs as AM/Deso they wouldn’t be third, both AM and Deso are very high population, Piken is medium it doesn’t take a genius to work out who’s gonna have the most players and coverage.
I should have been clearer, they have the same attitude as SFR. Only fights matter, only prime time matters, guild groups don’t blob, we are always outnumbered, we never build many AC in towers, only the enemy spams AC etc.
I’d agree with you to an extent, but we’ve both played on both Deso and Piken and Piken really don’t use siege that much whether it’s a good or bad thing depends on how you see it but when you see Desolation building AC’s in open field then the server is no longer playing for fights imo.
Piken are just like SFR until Wemil decided to start laughing on the forum about the destruction his blobs caused and fair playto him, now it’s all abut blob VS blob as guilds migrate to lower tiers for organised “skilled” fights. I’ve seen more Piken blobs this week than I have seen AM, yeah the Piken blobs fight well, but AM blobs use more strategy and yet the forums are littered with Pikens moaning about blobbing.
Remember guys, Piken don’t blob and only prime time matters (surely if you were that great you would tick +400 during prime, no?)
Lol, If Piken had as many blobs as AM/Deso they wouldn’t be third, both AM and Deso are very high population, Piken is medium it doesn’t take a genius to work out who’s gonna have the most players and coverage.
when we played with vizu, only 2 border was covered at main time. now after vizu, we have a lot of new players whos not liked the game against vizu. the player base is doubled, but most of them just newbies. the core is one of the bests i think but the others need to learn a lot. i hope 2-3 more weeks without vizu and friends and this new guys become as good as the old boys. After that vizu will fall :>
To beat Vizu you need good strong guilds Deso has 1 or 2 so good luck with that
Deso have 50+ zerg on Piken BL atm, Blobalation strikes again a mixture of Coin, TLA, FG and a lot of DVG ofc. They even built ac’s in open field when we were greatly outnumbered, DVG’s blob tactics have really rubbed off on Desolation. Oh Elprozam, why couldn’t you of took blobbing to a server that already did it instead of taking down one with you…
don’t worry. evening will come and then you can show us how good a student you were, my pickles. yes, it is you that make us skill lag, not the other way around.
in any case, desolation is very proud of pickles learning possibilities. you have improved your zerging a lot theses two weeks. maybe one day, you will be worthy of meeting the queen vizunah.
keep up the good work.
I’m not sure if your serious, your accusing a medium population server with hardly any daytime/night time coverage a version of Vizunah?? I played on Desolation for 6 months+ and I’m certain Desolation have 3-4 times as much WvW population.
Although your from CS which I respect as a guild and I think Candy Fluxx is a really good commander I still can’t believe your accusing Piken of blobbing when Desolation has a reputation of being a blob server and Piken a guild server…
Desolation used to be a “guild” server until most of the good ones got fed up of the blobbing in higher tiers for example GH, VoTF and Bull (all 3 could wipe any deso guild to the floor except maybe INVI) with smaller or similar numbers. DVG are the main guild of Desolation now and they are a blob guild just like IRON used to be and focus purely on numbers and never raid alone as a guild without commander tag.
And just after I typed this I see this to prove my point (;
yes. i wasn’t serious.
allow me to get serious now.
if one side has bigger numbers other side can only counter it by creating even bigger numbers. closed circle of blobing.
now… as far as i know, piken guilds are bigger. you guys just have bigger numbers. lets try to unblob next time. so deso doesnt have to blob up making you blob up even more.
remember, reset night is where you make the first impression. it determines how the week will look like. and deso will adapt, as we did last two weeks.
as for your proof, every player in game has a few of the same.
FG, DVG and GoD all travel in bigger groups than any Piken guild…
nothing is wrong with blobbing if ppl cant adapt to it i wonder who has no skill.. (having no fun is a different story)
Having fights of 25vs25 everyday is great fun and you constantly learn new tactics but fighting high tier servers where fights are often 60+ you never learn new things except run around and press 1 and the team with more players win.
Deso have 50+ zerg on Piken BL atm, Blobalation strikes again a mixture of Coin, TLA, FG and a lot of DVG ofc. They even built ac’s in open field when we were greatly outnumbered, DVG’s blob tactics have really rubbed off on Desolation. Oh Elprozam, why couldn’t you of took blobbing to a server that already did it instead of taking down one with you…
don’t worry. evening will come and then you can show us how good a student you were, my pickles. yes, it is you that make us skill lag, not the other way around.
in any case, desolation is very proud of pickles learning possibilities. you have improved your zerging a lot theses two weeks. maybe one day, you will be worthy of meeting the queen vizunah.
keep up the good work.
I’m not sure if your serious, your accusing a medium population server with hardly any daytime/night time coverage a version of Vizunah?? I played on Desolation for 6 months+ and I’m certain Desolation have 3-4 times as much WvW population.
Although your from CS which I respect as a guild and I think Candy Fluxx is a really good commander I still can’t believe your accusing Piken of blobbing when Desolation has a reputation of being a blob server and Piken a guild server…
Desolation used to be a “guild” server until most of the good ones got fed up of the blobbing in higher tiers for example GH, VoTF and Bull (all 3 could wipe any deso guild to the floor except maybe INVI) with smaller or similar numbers. DVG are the main guild of Desolation now and they are a blob guild just like IRON used to be and focus purely on numbers and never raid alone as a guild without commander tag.
And just after I typed this I see this to prove my point (;
Deso have 50+ zerg on Piken BL atm, Blobalation strikes again a mixture of Coin, TLA, FG and a lot of DVG ofc. They even built ac’s in open field when we were greatly outnumbered, DVG’s blob tactics have really rubbed off on Desolation. Oh Elprozam, why couldn’t you of took blobbing to a server that already did it instead of taking down one with you…
Couldn’t agree more at least viz used to have 1 or 2 guilds that could fight like WL or Hup now its just defend everything with siege even if they have twice as many people.
I’m not sure how anyone could of found the garrison fight fun, most of the time even skill 1 was unusable and in the end it came down to just who had the most players because of it. Abbadon had the most to start with but then Desolation called in a 2nd group of another 30 on top of the 40 that was already inside.
woah… hold back your high horse there little man, its wasn’t a brag of any kind and no need for QQ!
all I was stating it was a good fight, lasted a good while and we were accosted from all directions. We where outnumbered, even with the numbers you say we had. Who wouldnt defend garri, when all your opposing members are trying to take it?
Thanks for the fun!
looking forward to more of the same tonight
Well you lost bay and hills from defending it so I’m not sure I’d say a job well done
Especially last night on Piken BL, with the taking and defending Garrison. 3-way while in defense of the Garri Lord room… Cannot beat this kinda play! (well if your skills work without spamming it would be alot more interesting:)
I’m not sure how anyone could of found the garrison fight fun, most of the time even skill 1 was unusable and in the end it came down to just who had the most players because of it. Abbadon had the most to start with but then Desolation called in a 2nd group of another 30 on top of the 40 that was already inside.
It is part of the game nothing wrong there just some temporary fun but I will say that deso didint really want your keep we wanted to lure you out for fights so we let blobbadon keep some pressure from the other side (= I must admit you did a great job defending it against 2 blobs it was fun monday nuf talk lets focus on fights !
Lol your really calling them blobbadon when Desolation had the same amount if not more…
Anyway was a fun morning would of just been nice to see Desolation and Abbadon engage once or twice instead of targeting the outnumbered force all morning.
Desolation and Abbadon have been double teaming Piken on EB since 10am this morning (6 hours). Not once have they engaged with each other nice one. When I whispered to ask the Deso commander why he was avoiding AM he said they’d been told not to engage…
So have i you ungrateful piece of…
I have been playing for the server, and seeing you pop up as one of the most unlike’d players on the server for meany people now.
You seem to be against our server doing well, everyone sees you as a troll man..
Just don’t bother anymore..
As for what happened last night, i saw us lose a tower and hills for bay that we held onto for 5 min, i just think thats a shame..
I already left cos I’m sick of how Deso is playing, DVG is doing it’s best to ruin the image created for Deso by the old guilds that left and some that stayed. I refuse to play on a server that plays like Vizunah.
Desolation is just an unorganised version of vizunah. Whenever we have similar numbers to piken we get wiped and we only win when we have 50 man blobs which lately has been most of the time not to mention our constant night capping. What happened to the old desolation?
Yesterday i changed the drive my Gw2 is installed on and ever since then my client downloads 10mb of data every-time I open it. Is there a simple way to fix this?
I’ve faced a few really good guilds recently such as GD, VII, Scnd, VoTF and GH but the one that stood out to me most was VII, they could do with a few more members though as whenever I see them they never have more than 20.
So I was playing on our home borderland for 2-3 hours without any lag or disconnection problems but all of a sudden before we clashed with another big zerg my guild wars 2 disconnected although teamspeak was fine so it was just server side.
Once i logged back in and re-entered the borderland I couldn’t use any skills and everyone was rubber-banding for me so I tried restarting my game fully, this time i tried eternal battlegrounds and had no skill or lag issues for 20 minutes until I went back to the original borderlands and as soon as I arrived all the problems started again.
It makes me laugh how we are accused of blobing because we don’t all carry the same guild tag. A lot on Desolation are more concerned with the server doing well than how their guild is perceived by the enemy. I’ll follow a commander regardless of what Desolation guild he comes from, we all share a teamspeak server and I talk to people from other guilds as much as my own. For the record, most of our ‘pugs’ are also on the teamspeak server listening to the commander.
I was not here for the IRON days but I’m glad I wasn’t, the idea of one dominant guild does not appeal to me in the slightest. I much prefer the way it seems to be on Desolation now with the priority being on the server doing well.
When it comes to capping stuff at night, a lot of our players just play at this time (I’m a uni student with nothing to do over summer), it’s not our fault there is not much resistance, it’s not like you would stop ramming a gate because you don’t receive any arrow cart fire. Also, we do better then Vizu at night, it’s the reason we don’t finish 100k points behind anymore, they have more numbers but we are more tactical in our approach. Also viz leaves a scout at every tower and keep 24/7 and so there is always resistance so this is what we are used to. Also, to the guy who suggested arranging a 5v5 for a keep, are we supposed to just tell the other 20 players on ts that they’re not allowed to join in? Besides, it’s war, not spvp.
The aim of my guild and what I hope is the aim of all Desolation is to win, and I mean real winning, not the moral victory we cling to against viz because we don’t use quite as many arrow carts and use about half the number of golems. Besides, viz are the most organised server there is, as previously mentioned they have scouts everywhere and snipping teams on every map. Yet everyone calls them ‘pugs’ (a term I am beginning to despise due to it’s negative implications from elitists) or a blob because they have a lot of numbers and they don’t all carry the same guild tag.
There are no rules in world vs world and it’s like that for a reason, it’s supposed to be the equivalent of a war, the aim is to win, we all have the same instruments we all just use them differently. If you’re going to complain about unequal numbers or expect the enemy to not capture a tower because there is no resistance then wvw is not really for you, there’s nothing wrong in hating us for it because we’re doing well, but complaining that we’re playing the game is a bit pathetic.
I’m getting sick of this “if you can’t beat them, join them” mentality that a lot of people on deso seem to be picking up. The style of play we have atm is no different from Vizunah’s which is why people are moaning, we nightcap undefended objects and all travel in 1 blob. You say your happy you wasn;t here when IRON were around but tbh the guilds we had apart from IRON like GH, VoTF, Bull, and FG would of done a lot better than our current group is with even less people.
Even in Desolation’s prime it never had this blob or nightcap mentality, it would battle in fair numbers and be strongest in prime time, atm our tick in prime time is really low and we are just as strong at 4am in the morning which is pathetic.
A lot of respect to VII tonight on Eternal battlegrounds, I hadn’t heard of you before tonight but you was willing to take on groups of 45 with just 15-20 people and sometimes succeeded. Maybe the best piken guild I’ve seen so far this match-up.
nice deso, i see you learned alot from vizunah, have fun pvding this week.
You’re just facing a server that has been on the losing end for nearly 6 months straight, everyone will come into WvW now Deso has a chance and the night crew that got formed to slow down VS attacks and try hold objectives now has free-reign to take what they like.
If you had been facing 50+ zergs with 15-20 guys for 6 months during the night wouldn’t you go and take everything for once? lol
What I think you meant to say is: " If you had been pvdoored, and night capped for 6 months and complained about it, wouldn’t you do it the first chance you got?lol" Yes indeed, lets become vizunah for the lulz shall we, because they did it to us for 6 months. Flawless logic
exactly how I feel atm, I never thought Deso would become a baby version of vizunah.
I’m disappointed we are winning from night capping. Last night we had some great open field fights without using siege but now desolation are leading by so much from PvD’ing all night even though we moaned about Vizunah doing it for the last two months. In reality we are just a less organised version of Vizunah.
Deso do you have guilds or are you like Visunah ?:)
Mostly like Vizunah, the only solo guilds deso had were GH and VoTF but they are long gone now it’s mostly pugs or blob guilds I’m afraid.
Naaah, I don’t think so.
Desolation got some guilds, I had really much fun to fight them.
A very good example for this is the guild Eternal Invictus [INVI]
They move on their own and aren’t that much; when we fought them they had good sizes like 20-25, it think that should be fine.
Sure [GoD] sometimes have big sizes, but I also saw them with 20-30ppl.
It’s nothing against this huge size of FG with 40-50 and maybe more (correct me if I am wrong).
I’m a little bit disapointed about Forsaken Gamers, last matchup i saw them moving with numbers like 30-35 what is already ok, so you are able to have a chance to win against a coordinated guild group.
Jue!, forgive me, i’m really sorry that I have to write this, but it was a pain to have no chance with our 22 ppl on this reset
BUT!:
I am pleased that we have Piken in a matchup again, there were many guilds we couldn’t fight last time!
I hope we can meet Goodgame and Glory of War (EoW vs. GoW — haha :P )
And i am really happy to fight INVI and TUP again, it was really much fun last matchup
See u on the Battlefield
Reset has always been the most active time for our guild, your frustration however I understand but we were the only guild raid on the map tonight so the non-guild members come flocking. It’s also our first time fighting our ex-server so I’m sure alot of people want to chip in.
Hopefully you’ll catch one of our closed guild raids later in the week but for the mean time good luck.
Haha that’s understandable, idk if you could tell but GoD and INVI were running separately but your “blob” could only be matched when both of us came together, that’s how many you were!
Kind of figured that was why. You guys had some great flanking and positioning with the two organised groups on a lot of fights.
You too, you guys won most of the open field fights but we wiped you many times inside of bay overall I enjoyed the challenge you guys provided.
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