Guild Wars 2

Just tried to make a invis ranger build which focuses on the LB and hide in plainsight with remorseless. I was running valkyrie(because opening strike always crits) and dueled some ppl. To my surprise my bow did NO DMG to anyone, not mes, theif, guardian, or war. Keep in mind im running 30 in my powerline and 20 in precision. My GS showed that it had 3330 attack while my longbow sat at 2400(Wow! Thanks anet god forbid we use bows outside of wvw) I only did this because I figured the bow 5(barrage) would help me with SF. Did nothing as the thief just sat in it. I ended up dueling a shamans spirit ranger who creamed me of course then afterward had the nerve to say “word of advice.” “Non-condition rangers sucks” What a jerk right? I told her “Phantasm duelist owns in duels, doesn’t mean the player is good”. She was like "but im ranger.. " then I said “shaman cond spirit ranger is top meta.” Then she got quiet cuz she knows shes nothing special.

Did the other classes even notice our bm nerf? Dogs dmg cut in half, pet swap quickness replaced with “your pet gets quickness on down” Can anyone srsly think of a worse trait then this?

Kirito this is Mirana btw if you havent already figured out. Maybe it is l2p but you have to understand most thieves I come across do not play like you. When you SR its not a big deal you come out and atk me its respectable, I have respect for you bcuz you fight honorably. Then one of us wins or losses duel, its fasts lasts maybe 5 min. But most thieves I come across refuse to die or give up even though they cannot take me to half hp. They will SR (TAKE THEIR FREAKING TIME!) and hide behind some pillar til they are fully healed and keep trying until they can finally get me with thieves guild or slip up and die to my burst. This makes for an extremely LONG, BORING and ardous match and quite frankly its just become a means of running away and stopping the fight. Like I literally do not want to duel thieves anymore not because its hard or Im losing to them but just the fact thakittens repetitive and annoying, esp shortbow. I will never do enough dmg to them with all the kiting before they can SR but they do literally 0 dmg to me and refuse to change weapons because when they do I outplay and get an advantage on them. Any other class, if the build isnt strong enough it loses. But here the build wont be strong enough but with SR it gives them the means they will keep trying and trying until I call it a tie. U have to understand that there is literally nothing I can do to you when your in SR. Swing my gs around in hopes of hitting u for 15 whole secs? YEah you wont see that slow kitten coming. like I said earlier, when I switch to gs, ppl heal because its dmg and speed is pitiful but unfortunately it is the only aoe I have. The solution would be for me to switch to a/d s/t run spirits and shamans rune and use the spirits to aoe and kitten everything I come across. but cmon.. do we really need another condition spirit ranger owning it up like phantasm mesmer? Wouldn’t you rather take me as I am.

This is all fine any dandy but stealth should not last longer then 3 seconds. No matter how many times you combo through the dark field. Anything longer then 3 seconds is a free get out of jail card. No other class has dark field to stack stuff with yet shadow refuge will pulse 5 times, giving 3 seconds stealth on each pulse HEALING U AT THE SAME TIME REALLY? are kittening kidding? Im jsut reading this kitten now and its kitten ing me kitten off. but yeah kitten gives you at least 11(15 if you stay in full duration and even more if you comboing while inside) seconds of stealth and the only counter to it is freaking strong and big aoe. and even then, I would glady take some dmg for 15+ seconds of stealth while being healed. This is OP to the max. Dark field on top of 15 sec stealth on top of healing on 60 sec cd? wow, just wow. If you dont think there is something wrong here im sorry but your just a thief in denial. This isnt an L2p play issue, I could give a kitten about other theif skills, they last a mere few seconds JUST LIKE EVERY OTHER CLASSES INVIS SKILLS. Ranger stealth doesnt even really count, the only way ranger stealths is freaking LB(rofl only if it hits) and getting stunned with a master trait. each lasts less then 3 seconds. But yeah SR is gay, prob as gay if not gayer then duelist pistol. There is something wrong when every thief is running this skill. The Cooldown on this skill should be doubled, yeah DOUBLED. When ppl said pet ressing was OP, anet doubled that shout to a whopping 180 sec. But this skill not only guarantees you res ur ally, it can do so much more on 60 sec cd. You dont think SR is OP? Heres a challenge for you theives, name ANY class utilty skill (non ultimate) that you would be willing to replace SR with and why. Bcuz as ranger I can tell you this trumps every single utilty slot skill we have. I would take it hands down over my entire arsenal.

Lol ok asuran theif ur good man, big pro u must be. I think they should make asuran bigger then norn for a day just to kitten off all the pvp tryhards. Stealth is nearly useless in pvp? Jeez wonder why I made paragraphs of posts complaining about stealth in pvp, i must just be joking. Thief can be how ever you build it.. it doesnt have to hit hard, it can hit over time or it can live forever. I see much more cond thiefs these days. The game is designed not to have a trifecta, any class is supposed to be able to do anything, fill any roll. If you read my post youd see I want the to raise theif hp/toguhness so you can stand a better chance agaisnt a warrior etc. but anyways yes really im complaining about your apparently bugged and broken skill shadow refuge which is giving u more stealth then intended.

Wow thank you for pointing it out that shadow refuge is bugged, makes a lot more sense now. This alone is the basis of my rant, I could give a kitten about the other thief invis skills. Jeez anet u change my pet swap quickness with “your pet gets quickness when you are downed” to satisfy the whims of players moaning about bm ranger and you let something like this ride for this long? Plz show me more intriguing development and I will definitely continue to play this and not Elder Scrolls Online LOL

Thanks for the advice manijin. Unfortunately I do not have much aoe as a s/d gs ranger. I guess I will have to look into traps.. but yes its mainly the long kitten shadow refuge followed by that healing tree that I am soo unbelievably tired of seeing. Still you pretty much either both give up or you manage to burst the theif down right after shadow refuge before he can get it up again. Which is hard to to with their assortments of dodges and teleport not to mention the trade off between having enough damage to kill the theif in time and having enough survivability for his burst. I will have to do more research into theif skills to figure a better counter for them but man you dont see me just stop fighting that ele, war, guardian, mes, necro. With theif its like this long pause when they refuge where nothing is happening. 3 seconds is more then enuff to easily evade any of my incoming melee attacks. thats the problem with this game its just not balanced. I should have just as good as a time with s/d gs as a/d s/t but unfortunately a/d s/t is much much better in the general meta esp with shamans, clearly stronger then clerics. Like whats gs trait on ranger? just 5% dmg with gs on a master trait, wow anet very creative! Plz do more like this! When I switch to my gs ppl regain like 1/4 of their hp until i switch back to s/d(which is freaking badass!!) but still I refuse to give it up cuz cmon.. twilight ranger? too sick..

As it stands Invis is arguably the best buff one can obtain, and its game-breaking. Whats better then doing tons of dmg and whats better then taking less dmg? Taking no dmg, taking no targeting, and taking no vision. You may argue that this is a theif class mechanic however, its not specific to the theif, lots of classes can go invis. Unfortunetly however thief invis is the strongest and is set up in such a way that no class has a counter to it. For example, in wvw or spvp in a 1v1 situation 1 of 3 things will happen. Either one, the thief will kill the opponent, two, mess up and die to the opponent, or three, go invis, fully heal, and start the fight all over again until either 1 or 2 occurs.

This is completely different then fighting any other class especially when chasing. Where did that warrior go? oh he charged off in that direction, that ele rode the lightning over that way, that ranger swooped over there, the mesmer teleported that way(they are slow so even when the pop out of invis 2 seconds later they are still right there..). The thief is freaking GONE, I have no idea where he went.

Now Im probably going to take a lot of heat since half of you players are asuran theif/mes anyways but hear me out. Now I’ve got some options Id like to shoot out. First would be to remove this cowards weapon completely. No classes get it. THEN raise theif and mesmer hp/toughness so they don’t die in two hits, and or give them mobility skills. Theif is medium armor anyways, why are they softer then rangers and engis?

Now my second option which I think is better and almost a no brainer would be to give players activatable true-sight abilities. WoW which is the grandfather of this game and mmos in general, and which has years of balancing behind it uses this system. It had it from the start because invisibility is too strong when left unchecked, their developers knew this. But its not the only game that has a counter to invis. Dota, LoL, HoN even Skyrim! lol! they all have a counter to invisibility. Everyone uses a stun-break because a mace warrior will pwn them with 100b right? Why not an invis-break? Why put in a stun break which affects the warrior class the most and not have a true sight which would affect thieves the most? obvious answer is not enough testing.

The final option would be to reduce the length of invis(again…) max 2 seconds. 2 seconds not enough for you? play ele, guardian, war or ranger and feel whakittens like to have targeting on u 100%(well 95% for ranger) of the time. The feeling of overpowering onslaught that you can not simply vanish from til ur heal is back up.

But jk… that wasnt really the final option. Final option would be to give players silhouettes when invis and remove name tag so invis isnt as effective. For example the cloaking in halo or super smash brothers. Maybe even completely invis for 1 second, and then silhouette. Up close this may not be a big deal, hey there u are let me chase u (but a tricky theif will get away using the deception) but up on a castle tower you might not see the mass invis zerg below or the theif creeping into ur suppy camp.

Well anyways that was my two cents, hope someone likes my ideas. Sorry but game is just getting on my nerves from theives going invis whenever they are about to die completely stopping combat then 20 seconds later popping out fully healed having u start the process all over again. Only thing worse then then shortbow theif who refuses to give up kiting u even though hes doing NO dmg is a phantasm duelist mesmer with an ego. Yeah man you did a good job of running away and pressing 5 whenever it was up(every 20 seconds), very commendable, round of applause everybody.

GOOD, best news I have heard all day.

Should give us Garm for sure and I would forgive a lot.

Only one thing can save us now. QQ, and lots of it. Let them know of the injustice they have committed and the grave atrocities that shall be returned in retaliation for such evil.

What kitten es me off the most is the lack of work put into melee weapons this patch. Oh you fixed off hand training for daggers? Nice one, a freebie. Whats that? Sword is left untouched? GS still has the same 5% dmg trait in hp/boon line meanwhile longbow has had 5% dmg and 1500 range trait, and now attks even faster in power line. Nice I guess we’ll continue to just use GS to swoop and run away and show ppl hey look at me GS ranger

Where is the love? There was simply none this patch other then the might to pets on crit and even you need to waste 20 points in the line because who is going to take that trait without picking up the 30% crit dmg for pets? The second decent thing added was this new shout trait that gives regen and swiftness but in order to obtain it you either have to sacrifice your pet completly or not pick up emphatic bond which is pretty much our best trait. Just not worth it considering we have perma regen as is with dwaynas, not soldier rune for shouts, DWAYNAS MKAY.

Anyways I’m going to find some small animals to butcher to sate my rage and exact my blood vengeance. You did this Anet. I hope you can’t sleep and you dream about it
And when you dream, I hope you can’t sleep and you scream about it. Special shout out to JohnathanSharp, most kitteny useless dev of the year who only posts in ranger forum to gloat and laugh at our misery. Screw you the most. I hope my sacrifice to the gods gives you ravaging and hemorrhaging diareaha you pretentious and inconsiderate jerk.

much needed nerf? can only hope so