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Magnetic Leap

Does it apply aura to your teammates? If yes isn’kitten good choice to include it in a rotation?

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but then we loose 10% in air stance or 20% to 33% health…

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bump please comment

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Main Elementalist damage spell has coefficient 1.4 in a second. No other warrior autoattack spells have such a big coefficient.

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Zerker ele does not need active tank. They kite bosses from 300 range most of the time.
I’m sure that warrior has to be in 130 range to do more damage than elementalist and be in a zerker armor. But in this case he’ll get agro and loose his life or DPS because of constant dodging and switching to a bow.

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I’m not sure that warrior has better dps than elem…
Also to have a good dps he must be in melee range 150 or even closer. Elem can be in melee range of 270-300 and can kite bosses successfully.

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What’s about toughness?

Also 5% to burned foes may be not constant, it seems we can’t maintain burning for 12 seconds

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1) Arcane shield
2) Arcane shield from traits
3) Blind Air3 scepter
4) Blind Earth 3 scepter

This 4 spells allow you to negate 8 sources of ANY power of damage…
Is’t it enough?

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Also I have a question about Arc Lightning spell. I know that it has a very low coefficient… But when I use it, I see crit numbers like 2500-2800 for the last 2 hits! How can it be?

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No fury is roughly a 15% boost to damage if you didn’t have fury before (assuming full zerker gear, full air traits, etc)
But I am not talking about persisting flames here.
When I talk about 10% damage from points in fire I mean the ouput of 100 additional power and 5% damage to burning foes.

But I’m talking about persisting flames.
30/30/0/0/10 is really interesting to me. But I do not have an experience to evaluate it especially for a high level content. Maybe in some time you can try it to describe an experience in more detail…

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It was really funny last day I played low level fractals with this great build

Everybody in a group said me not to be in melee! But in spite of being in melee I was the last to be down Glyph of elemental power really helps to control boss movement speed. The only boss I used staff for was Ascalon.

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Good explanation, agreed
20% crit to all teammates is only 10% more damage on boss? Did you calculate it?

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But water heal is nothing when you get 90% damage of your life…
Condition removal is:
1) 3 conditions chanaled heal spell
2) 3 conditions Cleansing Fire
3) 3 conditions Magnetic Wave

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So what is the fix? Anybody tested?

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Lava axe has a coefficient of 0.77
LW has a coefficient of 0.7 but hits twice, so 1.4

Ah, yes forgot about 2 times…

Just in case 30/30/0/0/0 is really appealing to me… But I can’t understand does it worth it compared to 0/30/10/20/10

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I look at Lava Axe and it seems that having range of 900 it has even better coeff than LW…

In case of using scepter to stack 30 second of fury and 12 might to all team you can switch to Lava Axe and staying in water spam it 25 times under +20% from water vulnerability trait.
This is simmilar to LH build but it’s much safer cause it has 900 range.
Also it has a fire field that you can use to add more might with Arcane Wave

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what is Burning speed misses? Is it a huge dps loss?

Also looking at rotation, what is the purpose of switching to water?
It seems staying in LW will do more dps while waiting for fire

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you forgot 3 times Electric discharge | 0 | 0.7

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Burning speed + Arcane Wave + Magnetic Wave = 20sec fury

so it can be 100% uptime with Persisting flames. In this case you can discard Arcane fury and get +10% damage in earth

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why isn’t it easier to lay down fire wall?

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Do conditional damage crit?

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Do you have information about mobs hitboxes? It has to be minimum of 120m in diameter…

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Burning Speed slide is 600m, LW range is 300, you stay 250-275m away from target.

600m – 300m = 300m behind the target , Burning Speed blast radius is 240…

Not good it seems…

In PvP we use offhand dagger Air5 to make this combo…

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why don’t we use Drake’s Breath ? It has 2.0 coef

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The problem with water is that boss is not staying still… It can me really hard to blast with water 5 on fire field

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Air → Fire (burning speed , breath, Arcane wave) → Air → Earth (Magnetic Wave) → Air → Water ?

Is it like this?

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Interesting…
Could you please explain the rotation in more details?

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Dear gw2 developers,
Please fix these major profession bugs, they were mentioned many times already! It is not possible to make balance in PvP PVE and WvW if skills do not do what they have to!

Traits:
Lingering Elements – it doesn’t work for 50% of attunment bonusses

Runes:
Superior rune of strength – 5% might bonus doesn’t work, 40 power has to be 50 power!

People who play elementalists, please add other MAJOR game bugs in this thread.

We need to make all spells, runes, sigils and traits work and only after add content, balance, addons and etc… It’s a shame to developers that they do not understand this.
Imagine if MOBAs (2 most famous) have spells of heroes that do not work! In this case there would be a critical patch withing hours! And what do we have in GW2? Are we going to say it sometimes can become an e-sport? No, now we can’t say this! One year past and old skills (not new ones) do not work yet!

I hope this thread could make gw2 developers think a little about e-sports future of this game, and we will see hotfixes more often.

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How can we cast it? It makes us enter melee range of 0

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Is it possible to record a video of you playing 70 lvl fractals? It would be a really great experience!

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Other questions:
1) What healing skill you suggest to use with your build?
2) Did you calculate what runs are better Scholar or Strength?

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To the actual damage whole dungeon team does (including you)
1) Your suggested build
2) Might and fury stacking build with scepter (just case everybody gets all stacks)

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Ok, and what’s about might for the whole team and constant team fury boon?
What is better: get +10% damage from earth + 10% wrom water and + 10% from air to yourself or to give 12 stacks of might and constant fury to a whole team?
I mean scepter + fire trait for fields.

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If a team is ranged we do not need to stop our damage. Just kiting and do the same damage all the time.

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Can i see a video?

Ok, I see boss turning to me and i get agro, I dodge what than? My whole team is ranged! I get Agro anytime I strike boss 2-3 times in melee.
I can’t be in 300 range of boss if he is running after me? how do you do this?

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If boss oneshots you in melee and you die how will you make DPS?
If you constantly dodge + 3 hits dps is not that high.

Do you have videos? All videos with elem in melee i saw are:
3 strikes -> dodge -> 3 strikes -> dodge -> wait for aoe -> etc…

Tell me which boss do you have in mind.
Bloomhunger? Obviously not.
Mossman? Stay at max melee range.
Jellyfish? Not exactly a choice.
Imbued Shaman? He’s ranged with 1 annoying melee attack. Staff doesn’t have aoe projectile defenses,
Norn Shaman? Stay at max melee range.
Archdiviner? Stay at max melee range.
Dredge Suit/Ice Elemental? Stay at max melee range while kiting towards lava buckets or just burst him down at lower levels.
Captain Ashyn? I’d like to see anyone meleeing him in p3 at higher levels.

Boss have only 1 person aggroed and even if that person is you stay at max-melee range.

In this scenario constant damage on 1200 meters is higher.

You can’t do constant damage unless you use soft cc which you can only use by swapping attunements and that means less dps.

If I get agro and I’m in 150 range (LH) boss runs to me in a millisecond and hits me for 80% of my HP. How can i kite him in 150 or even 300 range?

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Also if we speak about melee, I consider using LH cause of it’s ability to cause blind.
Each 3rd strike it helps you to negate damage from boss and not to dodge.

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30 secconds of fury for 5 people + 9-12 might stack for 5 people is the same damage?

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What level of fractals are you challenging?

1) You can stay 1200 meters away and do constant damage with 0.8 spell coefficient
2) You can use LH with 1.8 coef but make dodges each 5 seconds and stay away not using Whip or LH and waiting for boss AOE.

In the second case your DPS can probbably be the same as in case 1. Isn’t It?

You play the game for fun/challenge or loot? If the former, you want to stay in melee, in the latter, it doesn’t matter.

If boss oneshots you in melee and you die how will you make DPS?
If you constantly dodge + 3 hits dps is not that high.

Do you have videos? All videos with elem in melee i saw are:
3 strikes → dodge → 3 strikes → dodge → wait for aoe → etc…

In this scenario constant damage on 1200 meters is higher.

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If you get agro in melee what are you doing? Kiting with Lightning Whip? Can you survive 1-2 boss punches? If yes could you make a video please?

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What level of fractals are you challenging?

1) You can stay 1200 meters away and do constant damage with 0.8 spell coefficient
2) You can use LH with 1.8 coef but make dodges each 5 seconds and stay away not using Whip or LH and waiting for boss AOE.

In the second case your DPS can probbably be the same as in case 1. Isn’t It?

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Question:

How can we survive fractals with Lightning Whip? Most bosses require range kiting. They oneshot in melee… What’s in this case?

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@Zelyhn.8069

What do you think about this variation? 0/30/30/0/10
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fEAQJAodhEmkblR0gjDIjHdgI4BiHWgDwhlC5AA-jAyAYLhQCCIJCI5VEN2ibR0YVLYqSioavRR0qlCIixAA-e

I do not understand the role of water in your build… 10% In water imho can be reached by using 25 trait in earth. (when you dodge you don’t do damage) and with vigor in arcana you’ll regen it fast. Also if you use d/f you have 2 auras which you can use to get 33 seconds of protection (especially during heal channeling)! Also -20% earth recharge allows you to use invulnerability each of your 2nd switch to earth not on a 3rd one!

We get -2k hp but we get +200 toughness 6 sec protection and 10 sec faster invul!

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this buid: 20 stacks of bleed ~ 2760 dps + burning ~ 800dps = 3560dps
direct build: lightning whip ~ 2035dps

I did not consider might stacks here, with this build you can manage 13-18 stacks, + 9 compared to direct damage build.

Why you say it has lower dps than a direct damage build?

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