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Okay, first of all Anet has stated that they don’t want Guardian to be another Warrior class. Each class should bring something to the table, and they’ve said countless times that they want Guardian to be more of the support role, but also be able to perform in other areas (DPS, etc). Yeah, a lot of these buffs are underwhelming but they’re buffs regardless, and it shows that they want to make more builds a bit better. They’re not going to give us 3k+ health for DPS builds, or other broken stuff that many people have suggested.. That’s ludicrous. We practically have the best support and insane sustained healing / survivability /tankiness. Our DPS builds and damage are fine, and all we lack really is soft CC to help stay in melee range of targets and maybe a bit of condition damage. So many complaints and counter suggestions in this thread would just make Guardian even more broken. We are by far the most balanced class, and I’ve enjoyed it being this way since beta. I’m sorry, but you should go play Warrior / Thief / whatever other classes you can’t handle on your guardian if you want to be “OP”, not that they even really are.

Thats just dumb. I mean warriors can support as good as us. We wouldent be “just another” warrior class because we can do damage.
There is no contradiction in the “lore” of a guardian to be able to either do damage or be support.

I’m glad to know you can’t read, and that you really don’t know much about either class. Warriors can support, but in a much different way with -some- similarities. Just like other classes can support, too. (Not to mention guardians get support skills on virtues, on weapons and many utilities.) And guess what? We can do damage, just like warriors other classes. If you think Guardians can’t do damage you’re greatly mistaken, please learn the class before posting. Also, no one is even talking about the lore of the game. Stay on topic please.

Ill pass your childish remarks.

You seamd to have taken offence. But I didentcall you dumb it were directed to arenanet for having the attitude that a guardian buffed offensivly would be a new warrior. And thats just dumb.
Second of all I know the class pretty well so I know what im talking about. Third, what I meent with “lore” were not the games lore but more arenanets view about the guardian clas of some slowmoving support class, with dps traits that aint viable. There view on classes is a part of lore.
Fourth I know a guard can do damage, and I know it can do lots of damage. But it aint viable as a damage dealer in many acpects and one is movmentspeed and the other is the low healthpool and the fact we need (in different to warriors) sacrifice so much of our survivability.

We don’t really sacrifice that much for a dps build, I run zerkers with 16k HP and find myself being just fine. The only type of warrior I even struggle to fight against is pure regen tank condi warriors in a 1v1 situation, and it just usually draws out into no one dying. If you want to have pure zerkers with the same amount of survivability we currently have + more HP then what’s the point of playing a Warrior? Our DPS spec is viable, and I addressed the need for more soft CC (Which is cripple/chill/snare/etc if you don’t know the terminology). We have a good amount of leaps and blinks and utilities that give movement speed. (Which we won’t need to use if we get more soft CC). You keep saying that we sacrifice too much survivability to go dps spec but most of our needed traits are in the valor / honor lines anyway, and again.. If you want to maintain the survivability we have now with more damage, that’s just broken. There has to be some kind of give and take balance, you can’t have it all.

Could use some build critique

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I have about a total of five sets of armor, three or four trinkets sets, and 10+ weapons with different stats. What you need to know is exactly what you want the build to accomplish. <- This is the main question I ask before theory crafting and building. My guess when looking at your build is that you want to: Support/lead due to your moderately high vitality / healing power / toughness along with the traits and skills you picked. Personally I would stick with clerics as your selfless daring (15 valor dodge heal) scales very well with it and heals allies and yourself for over 1k with your current build.

Guardian December Patch Preview

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Okay, first of all Anet has stated that they don’t want Guardian to be another Warrior class. Each class should bring something to the table, and they’ve said countless times that they want Guardian to be more of the support role, but also be able to perform in other areas (DPS, etc). Yeah, a lot of these buffs are underwhelming but they’re buffs regardless, and it shows that they want to make more builds a bit better. They’re not going to give us 3k+ health for DPS builds, or other broken stuff that many people have suggested.. That’s ludicrous. We practically have the best support and insane sustained healing / survivability /tankiness. Our DPS builds and damage are fine, and all we lack really is soft CC to help stay in melee range of targets and maybe a bit of condition damage. So many complaints and counter suggestions in this thread would just make Guardian even more broken. We are by far the most balanced class, and I’ve enjoyed it being this way since beta. I’m sorry, but you should go play Warrior / Thief / whatever other classes you can’t handle on your guardian if you want to be “OP”, not that they even really are.

Thats just dumb. I mean warriors can support as good as us. We wouldent be “just another” warrior class because we can do damage.
There is no contradiction in the “lore” of a guardian to be able to either do damage or be support.

I’m glad to know you can’t read, and that you really don’t know much about either class. Warriors can support, but in a much different way with -some- similarities. Just like other classes can support, too. (Not to mention guardians get support skills on virtues, on weapons and many utilities.) And guess what? We can do damage, just like warriors other classes. If you think Guardians can’t do damage you’re greatly mistaken, please learn the class before posting. Also, no one is even talking about the lore of the game. Stay on topic please.

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Your build is pretty standard, I can say it’ll work just fine for what you want to accomplish. Right now it gives good condition cleanse and support, but personally I would rather have Altruistic healing just because you’re going to be around a lot of people. If you want to be in the front lines, Altruistic will give you amazing sustained and burst healing. If you want others to be in front and follow up, this build works fine. The only issue I have is your full celestial accessories. So many people are using them because they’re -lazy- or don’t want to buy / use up inventory slots for different gear. It is the equivalent of a full signet build: It’s easy, gives you some nice bonuses through passives and works, but could be so much more optimized and stronger with a little thinking.

Guardian December Patch Preview

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Okay, first of all Anet has stated that they don’t want Guardian to be another Warrior class. Each class should bring something to the table, and they’ve said countless times that they want Guardian to be more of the support role, but also be able to perform in other areas (DPS, etc). Yeah, a lot of these buffs are underwhelming but they’re buffs regardless, and it shows that they want to make more builds a bit better. They’re not going to give us 3k+ health for DPS builds, or other broken stuff that many people have suggested.. That’s ludicrous. We practically have the best support and insane sustained healing / survivability /tankiness. Our DPS builds and damage are fine, and all we lack really is soft CC to help stay in melee range of targets and maybe a bit of condition damage. So many complaints and counter suggestions in this thread would just make Guardian even more broken. We are by far the most balanced class, and I’ve enjoyed it being this way since beta. I’m sorry, but you should go play Warrior / Thief / whatever other classes you can’t handle on your guardian if you want to be “OP”, not that they even really are.

December 10th proposals: Valor V

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Valor V is Purity, not Retributive Armor. /facepalm

S/d thief vs Guard 1v1 in wvw

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“Tanky/good defensive” profession/builds can absorb/avoid your burst. You cant absorb the constant damage, you are too squishy. If you keep fighting you will die through retaliation or direct damage, because guardian have better sustainability and keep damaging all the fight.

That’s the theory, but in practice, your damage will cream any guardian before retaliation can get you to 60%. It’s massively borked in your favour, enjoy it before the 16/10/13 nerf.

Sigh, why do people advertise on twitch that they’re rank 620 when they’re so bad at wvw. I dunno why people do this. RIP in peace.

Critique this Build:[Solo WvW]

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Main problem with guardian solo roaming.. You won’t beat any of the current meta classes (Apoth/Dire engi/war/thief/ranger/whatever). Second, your build won’t really dent a perma regen class. You might be able to take down a full zerker/hybrid build similar to yourself, but they have just as much of a chance to take you out as well. Also, it really depends on how good your opponents are too. People boast about how amazing their builds are, or how good their skill level is to allow them to 3v1 etc, but everyone knows you will never win a 3v1 on even skill level and even gear. Another thing is that guardians are just not suited for solo roaming compared to other classes. Being a solo roaming guardian since launch, all I can say is run what feels best to you / Do lots of trial and error.. Because no matter how much research you do or critiquing you ask for, it mostly boils down to your personal skill level and play style / preference.

Simple Solution to The Bloodlust Controversy.

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No to stat buffs.