Well I did this dungeon some hours ago and we did kite the monster at the “defend when magg plant the bomb” and died a lot of time for each player… well it realy cost alot to repair but we did it and the chest didnt even appear….but when we finished the stage in the ritual room it give the chest then we talked with magg and it did the “plant the bomb” event again…. so we glitched the dungeon without doing the “jump accross the door glitch” but did the dungeon as they wanted us to do so honestly i dont know if we should realy kite the monster or not now … because the result of kite the monster / glitch the dungeon will be the same!
PS: Sorry in advance i know my english is bad ^^
I’ve noticed this behavior as well — If Magg dies at almost the same time that the bomb timer reaches 100% then the “event” will reset but the wall will be destroyed and you could potentially engage/start the final encounter. I would assume the proper ‘fix’ for this would be that if the event ‘resets’ some method of the wall respawning should be in place, but I’m sure that it’s something that’ll flesh itself out over time.
Hey guys! Thank you so much for reporting this issue to us. Is it possible to get a screenshot of your player next to the opening that you escaped through? Maybe even a video?
Thank you
figured I’d see if I could hunt this thing down based on the screenshot. Here ya go.
Can we get some kind of indication if these speed runs of doing 2 bosses then resetting and starting over is acceptable or if there’s some kind of fix to prevent this 8 minute run junk? It’s really frustrating to constantly look for a group for Arah explorable (I pug alot when people I know aren’t online) and the ONLY groups I can seem to get into end up skipping all the trash doing 2 bosses and wanting to reset.
I’m sure this post will not be popular but I don’t really care. The groups that I’ve been in for Arah explorable haven’t had THAT much of an issue doing it without ‘farming’ – I just want to be able to find more of them.
So you basicly want them to “Fix” something to force people to do what you want to do?
Wow, this community went form “Everything is fine EXP and loots are shared!” to “Do what i want to do NOW!!!”
I’m not saying I want it fixed to force people what I want to do, but I do see how it can come across that way, I’m sorry. All I’m saying is that when you have ONE path that is literally easier than random mobs that you come across running around the cursed shore, it creates a whole group of people who ONLY care about doing that for the tokens, and no one ever sees the other portions of the dungeon. If the ‘farming’ path at least required you to get to the ‘end’ of the dungeon rather than killing 2 bosses for 8 shards then resetting, then at least people would see more of the content.
Whatever, I don’t think I can convey my point very well, and you obviously don’t see that there’s tons of content going completely unplayed because of something that was pretty cleary unintended, so we’ll go with yes I want it fixed to force people to do what I want.
Video does prove it up to a point. However, take into account your HP threshold. Not everyone has ~15k hp at level 75. I’m an 80 guardian with 30/20/10/10 full exotics and i only have 13k at 80, 11k at 75
aye, it’s full exotics or gtfo, pretty obvious now and even then it’s a gear check something I LOATHE in a game, the skills were clearly there, he’s a pretty decent player and all judging by his uses of skills, but the full death and almost wipe is indicative that the tuning is bad and there’s more than a few close calls he has, congrats but yeah with skill shown it just looks like you scraped by when you should have beaten it in a solid manner
gotta gear in exotics in another means now before hitting CoF and even then it’s gonna be more frustration than challenge imho. Never asked for frustration, a nice challange would have been good though
I agree that gear level definitely does help — the fortunate part about that is that gear can be crafted/obtained outside of the dungeon. As far as scraping by, I’m still adjusting to this acrobatics spec and I sorta randomly spam dodge sometimes for the increased damage when endurance isn’t full – not sure that I like acrobatics based builds personally but that’s an entirely different conversation :-)
I also had to turn my graphics settings down to next to 0 to be able for fraps solidly, so being able to see some of the particle effects that I’m used to would have helped me mitigate/avoid a little more damage. I may try and put together a more synergized group, respec, and re-record another video at some point to show that with a properly geared/communicating group that does things properly it’s not that bad, but I just wanted to get SOMETHING up to muzzle the naysayers a bit.
regarding some skepticism about the gate being opened to Baelfire’s room — we wiped @ 100% completion (Magg died as he was saying “OH NO…”) on the previous pull, and the ‘event’ reset but the door stayed open.
As far as me thinking it’s doable with everyone down — yes, I do. It was literally joining a group that was “LF1M CoF” outside of the dungeon, not some synchronized polished group. With a good group, absolutely doable with most everyone alive.
Just did it with a pug without aggro leashing anything, I’m in the middle of uploading now.
edit: To clarify, in this group we weren’t able to KILL all of the adds but we were able to kill enough of them and survive long enough for us to win comfortably. With a very solid group I’m sure you could still kill most everything except shadowblades and be fine.
edit2: as far as circle strafing goes, I’m not sure how you CAN’T circle strafe in this game to kill stuff, anyone who’s ever pvped has circle strafing engrained in their brain, but I agree that it’s definitely doable without leashing/“exploiting” anything.
edit3: upon video review thekittenderp thief in my group was apparently trying to aggroleash mobs but I don’t see where he succeeded; same guy who suggested we exploit the lava field portion as well which we told him to shut up about..unfortunately I can’t control the pugs. Regardless the video should show how doable it is, even with one person being horrible.
It’s not against the rules to quit a dungeon if the rate of shards cuts off after the first couple bosses. Not like they still wont do something about it though, seeing as theyve already established their penchant for telling players what they want them to do.
Until then, just “LFG arah exp non-farm” or something.
I’m trying – but here’s the issue that the shard farming creates:
Can we get some kind of indication if these speed runs of doing 2 bosses then resetting and starting over is acceptable or if there’s some kind of fix to prevent this 8 minute run junk? It’s really frustrating to constantly look for a group for Arah explorable (I pug alot when people I know aren’t online) and the ONLY groups I can seem to get into end up skipping all the trash doing 2 bosses and wanting to reset.
I’m sure this post will not be popular but I don’t really care. The groups that I’ve been in for Arah explorable haven’t had THAT much of an issue doing it without ‘farming’ – I just want to be able to find more of them.
If you aren’t having fun in them, don’t do them. No one is forcing you to do anything, and if it’s really that awful for you, then go do something else. If you want to complain that there isn’t anything else to do (which you’d be wrong), then don’t play. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t make it horrible.
Did you even test this fix yourself? I would love to see a video of the dev’s completing this part of CoF without suicide training.. If someone has completed this by actually killing the mobs please say so, I’d love to see just how many can pull it off as it’s “intended”
I just pugged CoF without suicide training, so please stop acting like because you can’t do it it’s impossible. After having done CoF (among others, I’m not some professional player but I have plenty of prior ‘raiding’ background and I’ve done most paths of explorables in this game working towards the dungeon master achievement) pretty extensively with a ‘best’ run of around 12 minutes, I wanted to experience the changes so started looking for a group.
Cool story bro, first person I’ve heard to pull it off. So please share your wisdom if you think its so easy.. Do you not see countless others complaining? Or are you just too oblivious to see because its all ok for you? Have you seen the thousands of posts on this forum? I never complain ever, I love GW2 I really do. But this is the first time I’ve felt let down by poor mechanics in the game. So tell me exactly how you can pull off killing 20 elites in 2.5 minutes with 5 people. Video or it didn’t happen.
yes I’m the FIRST person out of the hundreds of thousands of playing to pull it off, I’m sure (edit: this is sarcasm before you actually take that seriously and think I’m talking about how amazing I am. To clarify, I’m not saying I’m great, I’m saying that I’m average and you are either a) whining because you can’t have free loot anymore, b) trolling, c) less than average). Countless others complaining happens anytime there’s a buff to difficulty or you take away something that’s ridiculously easy from people. I said before that I never thought the intention was to kill the elites – I also said that even with high dps groups we’ve never been able to keep up with the spawnrates so my assumption was that you were SUPPOSED to kite. Maybe the fact that you can’t read and comprehend what I typed is part of the reason you can’t finish CoF now.
Did you even test this fix yourself? I would love to see a video of the dev’s completing this part of CoF without suicide training.. If someone has completed this by actually killing the mobs please say so, I’d love to see just how many can pull it off as it’s “intended”
I just pugged CoF without suicide training, so please stop acting like because you can’t do it it’s impossible. After having done CoF (among others, I’m not some professional player but I have plenty of prior ‘raiding’ background and I’ve done most paths of explorables in this game working towards the dungeon master achievement) pretty extensively with a ‘best’ run of around 12 minutes, I wanted to experience the changes so started looking for a group. My experience/comments from the perspective of a dagger/dagger shadow arts treed thief:
Until the lava field portion the place feels completely unchanged, so I’ll start there…
Escort Magg across the lava fields
I honestly don’t have any issues with the ‘intended’ changes — in practice, however, Magg’s AI makes him feel really stupid, as he repeatedly walked into the lava or just aggroed random mobs, causing whoever he was “following” to have to run forward/back, forward/back to get him to advance properly. Outside of that, I’m fine with the change. My original thought was that the proper way to do it would be to have one person with a fire extinguisher then everyone else killing mobs as we escorted magg along, but we honestly just couldn’t get him to follow us well enough for this strategy to work. If it’s at all possible, I personally think that would make the encounter a bit more engaging and feel more fluid. No expectations though!
Protect Magg while he sets the bomb
I’m honestly not sure where all the whining is coming from here. I have run some very high dps groups, and I have never thought the proper way to do this was to actually kill all of the mobs, I’ve always assumed that the intention was to kill high dps output/low HP mobs (stalkers and potentially shadowblades come to mind) and ignore shadowlords and just properly avoid their damage, while interrupting the flamethrower cast on the other mob. As I said, I am specced into shadow arts pretty heavily so I’ve historically just ran into packs cloak and daggering to blind everything and keep mobs at bay.
Baelfire Encounter
Since I’m capable of looking at the ground, seeing a big red circle, and moving out of it, I noticed absolutely no changes to this encounter. Not to sound (too)condescending, but perhaps if people are dying to this, they should look into an eye exam.
In my experience, this is only a display bug and does indeed give you the bonuses. The runes are “displaying” the bonuses (12/6) or whatever due to the fact that the display portion is ‘counting’ all of the gear in your inventory (pve/pvp) to determine what you meet as far as displaying; not sure why. I had the same issue with superior rune of strength and superior rune of the ogre.
so here’s the issue that I have with this — it looks like (at least for me) the particle effects only worked when the weapon was unsheathed and not in the middle of ‘action’ animations. This is what I experienced last night anyway:
Superior rune of strength is also similarly bugged – it displays rm that you have the bonus even when you dont. You can actually look at your stats and see that they don’t give you bonuses beyond the ones that you have already. If you have two of them, you’re only getting the 2pc bonus.
When you stealth and exit it by performing a hostile action, you gain a “Revealed” buff. It prevents you from entering stealth again for a short while.
This is to prevent certain skills like Shadow Refuge, from constantly putting you into stealth allowing you to spam your #1 stealth skill or gaining 2 initiative every time from the Infusion of Shadow trait in the Shadow Arts tree.
ahhh – that makes a bunch of sense then. Thank you!
if you care about your survivability at all, you may want to consider the valkyrie set to an extent. I am running a hybrid amount of gear – exotic valkyrie chest/helm/legs/boots/ring/ring, rampager’s ear/ear/shoulders/gloves. Granted, if you’re 30/30 then you probably don’t care much about your survival anyway :P
I don’t believe that ‘nerf’ is the proper word for it — imo they changed the behavior of heartseeker to be more in line with it’s intention. HS is much more of an execute ability but the high percentage damage was not in line with the intended use of the ability. By making it so that it’s not worthwhile to spam, it forces you to do more than spam 2. Essentially the change forces the playstyle to be a little more as it was intended. No thieves worth their salt are spamming heartseeker anyway at high health, so it’s almost unnoticed for us anyway.
I’d agree, this has to be a lag issue, it’s certainly not an exploit. The first attack out of stealth can definitely hit you out of stealth, but that’s sorta the idea.
So, perhaps someone can answer this for me — occasionally when using cloak and dagger, the attack will land and hit but I’ll also get an ‘immune’ message (this is strictly related to PvE – haven’t really seen it as much or at all in PvP) and I won’t go stealth. What mechanic causes this? Anyone?
dungeons have been broken on multiple servers, not just CD – for almost 3 days now. There’s a sticky thread at the top to post these issues to, but it would be very nice to have some sort of acknowledgement that it’s an issue.
whyy?
