Guild Wars 2

Upperground.6849:

Troma.3250:

While i understand, as a gamer, it can be a little frustrating for people with regular hours to play, don’t start with the hiding thing. You know we don’t hide at all the evening, like i said in my previous post :

“Awesome bloody battle at SFR garrison west with LP+Fureur+Vizunians versus RG+few siN/VcY. I had a lot of fun.”

When yesterday afternoon we had not a lot of people and lost everything, did you see someone flame here? calling you nolife or something like this?

Again, please try to respect everyone. When you did it to Jade Sea for exemple, i dont think they called you “rats” too, boys =)

1. You only don’t hide when you can’t hide, you can’t hide when the fight is in lord room, can you? VS does rarely do any open field fights, when you get caught, you run, fights happen when you try to take something, and when you try to defend something that has no wall / gate left to stand behind. Ow yeah, and when you see 15 unprepared enemy to run over with your 40+ zerg.
Not gonna complain about it, perfect viable pure wvw playing for score type. But don’t deny it, don’t brag about it, and don’t whine about it when we point it out rightfully.

2. You guys didn’t complain? Heh, you did. Not as much though, because you know you will just do another alarm clock. That makes it pretty easy to not complain. We also knew that. And what do you expect, that we won’t try to undo your alarm clocking? You guys cannot accept a fair loss, and thus you resort to alarm clocking trying to get the edge. Don’t expect us to just sit and take that kitten from VS. Also you guys have been doing this since the start of the game, it is pretty normal you get more complaints about it, as it keeps going on and on.

You guys would have more fun in lower bracket where you could actually win some open field fights that you don’t greatly outnumber, creating horrendous lags, instead, you abuse a flawed scoring system to stay on top, creating a situation where there are 4 servers fighting for top tier, with 1 of the servers failing at open field fights, resorting to alarm clocking just to stay on top.

You are destroying at least a good part the fun for yourself, and for other servers. Just because you can’t take this as a game, and only play for the score.
I guess it must be some baked-in French mentality.

3. We didn’t do anything to Jade Sea, Jade Sea loved nightcapping / alarm clocking too, but were/are just not as consistent and strong as VS with that. So yeah, naturally we did our best to undo that. And then Piken came, with Spanish, thus negating JS nightcapping. And you will never see over +600 numbers (or even +500). VS just has no honour in this regard.

You are creating a negative environment with all this, on top of that it is the greatest possible display of disrespect, so please don’t talk as if you respect your opposing servers. You don’t even respect the game this way. You may say you respect your enemy, but the actions taken show differently.
Again, from a pure score and balance point of view, 3 servers could easily never fight eachother, just playing 8 different hours of the day, creating an equal match in score. Is anyone going to have fun like that though? Only those that care about world completion I guess.

It is up to Anet and community to find a way to make playing at any hour viable, but matchup results should also reflect effort. And atm, least effort create greatest reward, as ticking +600 simply means you had no opponent nor effort doing it.

stop trolling like this and matchup will be better

Grok.6714:

I’m guessing pleasant opponents would be the ones that run into the keeps that you opened for them in order to keep a certain server from reaching T1.

Or the ones that bend over and acknowledge the tactical genius of alarm clocking?
The ones that respect you because , even tho you can’t fight, have the possibility to negate all efforts of an opposing server just by gathering a horde of zombies at times that no one is playing and wipe the map?

You are right. We are not pleasant opponents from that perspective.

Troll as much as you wish Grok, who cares ? Spit on us no problem, be ready for the boring matchups.

As i said no fairplay expected, you are forum warriors not pleasant opponents.

So we will try our best to make the matchup unpleasant for you as long as it works that way.

No this is clever tactic and perfect understanding of WvW, accept it or not it is.

But don’t worry we don’t expect any fairplay attitude from you, we know it is asking way too much.

Genev.2450:

Maybe not, it’s not like i give a kitten about a bunch of things some people here do, but I’m almost becoming surprised none of the VS commanders has made a post like that American commander did quite some time ago:
“Omg ANet it’s your fault i prioritise this game over anything else”
Some people called it dedication, luckily other people realised he was simply a kittening idiot who should probably get help with addiction.

Edit: Or maybe they did but it simply remained on the French forums instead of leaking…. Meh, cba checking

Really no one expect you to understand what dedication is and don’t feel forced to post all your extremist feelings there.

No one expect you to understand what dedication is

Anatolian Turk.4057:

And they will remain at the top until Deso, or SFR gets NA or Oceanic guilds dedication

Fixed for you.

We don’t care about gvg, too bad we can’t report those doing gvg in wvw and get them excluded of wvw.

GvG is not part of wvw and should be infracted as you are taking slots for nothing.

I love how SFR and the bandvagoners have been pathetic this week end. Please continue to make us laugh IG and here on the forum.

Enjoy your few week in t1 and best of luck in t2-t3 once you will “be bored of t1”.

Offski.4897:

As for your last point, yes if only deso could gets its pve WvW community involved like viz does at night and in the mornings we could actually compete with them.

Corrected for you.

Masori.3528:

Seems trolling is all you can (seeing your replies to other threads aswell).

1/10 really poor troll

As i said in my previous post the important thing is to believe, i respect that.

MagnusLL.8473:

First of all, if you need to be at the office at 9AM you need to logoff earlier. Second, and more important, the exact time is irrelevant. If you are around until 9AM and then have to go, the other server can simply start recapping at 9:05AM. All you’ve done is reduced your vulnerability window, but that window is still going to be there until you have enough players to be able to match the opponents’ numbers at every hour of the day.

The important thing is that you believe what you said.

Haha obvious troll is not so obvious it seems

No this is pure L2P issue (there are many successful tactics to counter this), balance is perfectly fine on this point.

Senseless post/thread.

This is L2P issue, end of story.

Offski.4897:

In my opinion in no way is this working as intended. You cannot be expected to kill enemies pooring into a keep non stop whilst also having to defeat/defend against the keep lord multiple times, due to him being instant rezzed with the rezzer putting himself in limited danger.

LoL you are still at it, L2P issue, working as intended.

You fully wrong Zord, you’re talking about GvG, WvW is not GvG.

WvW is won by dedication not by anything else.

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

Conclusion, u are winning when nobody is there to fight you.

Corrected.

Aveneo.2068:

with the general consensus

There is no such thing except in your mind.

Oswolf.6081:

Offski.4897:

I would respect you if…

Do you think that Vizunah players care about the respect from a commander who whine so much?

This

Forget all this, if you can just fix the queue and make possible to play WvW it would be a brand new game.

Reminder: currently impossible to play WvW or organize guild events so all your updates are useless if we can’t play WvW.

ilmau.9781:

Being top of T1 doesn’t always mean you are the best.

Yes the winner is not necessarily the winner …. non-sense.

It’s like for tennis, some will tell you that player A plays a better than player B even if player A loses the match, just because player A do some outstanding and stylish winners from time to time and not player B.

I will tell you something, the best is the one that win at the end of the match.

What a big third arm Wolfheart, congrats we are all impressed and jealous. You’re so outrageously strong and gifted, indecent !

ilmau.9781:

Then, again, if u haven t noticed VZ is the only EU server (1 of 27) with that much number of night players, and this is the only reason they keep winning.
With a normal number of players they will be at half of the ladder, not more.

1/10 for this troll, you can do way better.

Ask old forum warriors some advices as it is really poor troll.

Junkpile.7439:

… why post should be respectful and friendly?

Education ?

All this is done as if we care about your guild, and you really seem to believe it was important to post this ….

There is no hate as we couldn’t care less but your reputation is clearly done.

@Krosan, it is as usual.

Starscream.7803:

I try to think of the fight from Viz’s perspective though, and struggle to find any fun from it. Stay in the keeps until we can vastly outnumber the enemy and golum rush before they can react. While this is effective why would anyone want to play in a pvp zone without doing much pvp? That Viz fighting spirit sure is strange.

So how insulting others is meant to change things, please explain ?

@Black Ice Spain, thanks for the clever posts, a big +1 to what you said, give them GvG so that we can play WvW without all this crap on the forum.

Open field battles is the worst strategy in WvW, get the point or not it is like that.
Why one would do something that doesn’t help the server, it is absurd (not even talking of the clipping issue), if you are not happy with the rules then talk with ANet .

Jackie.1829:

Over 400 kills tagged by each of our members against a combination of IRON, CDD, CPC, MORT, SYN in one single Bay fight before we wiped.

You can call us a zerg all you want, but when your entire server with a collective of 4 large guilds takes a total of 20 minutes to wipe us out of a keep where you had 10+ ballistas and arrow carts, then I think there is a bit more to it than just zerging

Thanks for the fun anyways, you should all group up more often, you wont be killing us otherwise <3

Your third arm is so big man, we are jealous ! Impressed

@Yaro, we are not talking of the same thing, what you are referring to is obviously fine and we appreciate the challenge but the constant trash talk and anti-french talk that few people/guilds got used to spread in the forum isn’t.

Either you don’t know the whole story (many threads/posts got deleted after all) or you are ignoring some threads.

We are fine with anything game related, that being said we can move on.

Starscream.7803:

To th Viz players who claim you only hide behind walls because you are outnumbered. I think you 30-40 man that runs around every morning would like a word with you.

And still the IRON trash talk … can we stop with this please ? Can we move to something more pleasant, thanks.

@Rhino, sorry i quoted you but my post was not targeted at you, it was aimed to everyone.

And then we continue with the trash talking ….

Rhino.7863:

How are they supposed to learn if you dont let them try? The basics of PvP is very easy, kill your enemies before they kill you.

This is where you need to learn because it is WvW not PvP, killing your enemy won’t make you win by itself.

You come here saying you want to make everything to kick french people out of T1 (we still wonder why) and then you are surprised that we play the points ?

As long as your communication is all about french hate and kicking the french out of T1 there is no chance to get what you are looking for. Maybe you should consider being less patronizing and hateful towards VS it would be a better strategy to get a pleasant WvW matchup because all this crap is what makes the matchup less fun than it could be for you.

The ball is in your hands.

You guys are getting trolled at wish, yes this thread is a troll so lets have fun and never take anything seriously from VZ players again here (we are trolling on purpose).

What you don’t understand is that this gear grind is killing the game, you can talk as much as you want players are still leaving.

Exotic stuff was affordable, ascended isn’t and i won’t play in exotic if i have to face players with ascended gear. So i’m scared it’s end of story for me and many players in the current state.

ANet lied to us promising a PvP game without gear grind or at least without something silly like ascended stuff. This and other unresolved WvW issues (culling, server lag, scoring system, …) makes me think it’s already too late, sad the game was fun at the beginning.

No need to beat the dead horse to death again, this won’t happen.

What is more likely to happen is slow death of both server, lets be honest T1 matchup is boring. We play because we have fun but scoring system make matchup boring and will lead to many players leaving (this and the new gear progression system).

So we will still fight but ANet is definitely not helping WvW with the latest changes, population is already dropping (we almost never have queue time now on VS).

It is sad to see some player enjoying the EU WvW destruction.

Many players are leaving WvW and some even leave the game because of what as become WvW. There’s nothing to enjoy with the WvW slow dying process which has started lately.

Many EU players are in wait state and the future of EU WvW depends on ANet’s reaction. Please don’t let WvW die, we really enjoyed it but in the current state it is not an enjoyable experience anymore.

Sadly i feel this thread is useless, the worst bugs are still there since day1 and each update only introduce meaningless changes and nerf.

Solo WvW is useless.

Basically your videos shows a guy taking a WvW slot and accomplishing nothing useful, congrats you are helping your server loosing !

Godorn.2931:

There is no doubt that heal power has horrid scaling compared to other stats. IMO, its why WVW is a joke.

I would rather say that your post is a joke than WvW, matter of opinion. Get it ?

Obtena.7952:

I can provide some information that could help you out. I did a test to see what influence healing power had on the stated healing values shown in the description for Virtue of Resolve and Signet of Resolve at level 80. I did this by adding subsequent pieces of gear with healing power. The following were my results:

Heal Power/Virtue Heal/Signet Heal
0/84/8150
101/90/8276
168/94/8360
236/98/8445
315/103/8544
494/114/8768
640/122/8950
863/136/9229

My own conclusions from this is that healing power doesn’t really give the sort of boosts to healing I would expect for the investment I’ve given to it in gear. I’m full exotic clerics with lower QL sapphire jewelry. What you do see is that the healing power increases linearly.

You should try stacking healing power because 893 Healing Power is ridiculously low amount of healing power so there is nothing to conclude with such low number.

My guardian is around 1600 Healing Power and my own conclusion is that healing power is really worth it if you stack it on each piece of your stuff otherwise forget it.
My regeneration tick is around 360-380 (and i can maintain constant regeneration), empower is around 3000, dodge around 1500, staff skill2 around 1500, heeling breeze around 3600, bow of truth above 4000.

So yes full healing build works and you can heal in this game but you need full healing power stuff/ full healing build. Any hybrid build/stuff does really poor healing.

Can anyone else check if it’s just a tooltip bug (did not go further on testing last time) ?

Pistol wisp build without haste is a broken pistol wisp build.

Karew.2169:

This gives me +70% boon duration

Actually no since rune boon duration increase from rune does not stack (at least it doesn’t stack with Virtue path boon increase), reported already but still no input if it is working as intended.

Just make it a queue that would be a good start, you remind …… the queue is BUGGED !!!!!!!!!

It is called “ink shot” (underwater skill).

High survivability is different than tanking (understand staying in melee) beware. (BTW the second template i linked is 18.7k HP not 14k HP, the site has some bugs so it is actually even more ~20K HP).

I strongly disagree on dagger strorm maybe you should go further on testing with it as it is definitely not low damage without damage condition, and it allows to counter distant skills and mesmer tactics nicely all that on a reasonable cooldown.

I also disagree on the second statement, 1v3+ and large fights almost always last longer than 30s from my experience, this is exactly why i choose the CD reduction over of Bountiful Theft. As i said i’m not targeting 1v1 with this build (i use DD backstab build for this).

I think we play the build slightly differently which explains the different conclusions we get. Your view is however very interesting and insightful, i already made some progress with my build so thanks for your time

amulet/rune are in the second tab.

My build is not intended for highest possible burst but more for high initiative regen and high survivability and aimed to 1v2, 1v3 or more rather than 1v1 this explain the choice of Dagger Storm which is by far the best elite skill for me.

You have some valid points though, i will consider roll for initiative instead of going Shadow Arts however since roll for initiative and haste are both trick skills the 20% reduction CD is a must have (gw2build info seems outdated).
Swiftness on dodge points can sure be used elsewhere.

It could be something like that:
http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#2|10|2642|4004|2786|8743|4989|10|1738|0|0|30|1731|1193|1728|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|0|30|786|2200|781|19|0|3|28016|28035|49965|49965|49965|49965|49965|21031|48788|0|0|0|0|

Same switch and same way to play here, Could you please share your build ?

Here is mine (still testing):
http://www.gw2db.com/skills/calc/thief#2|10|2642|4004|8743|3361|4989|10|1738|0|0|15|1731|0|0|20|2383|2199|0|5|0|0|0|20|786|2200|0|19|0|3|28016|28016|49965|49965|49965|49965|49965|25790|21080|0|0|0|0|

sPvP is there for you.

Night capping is fine.