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Answer on your ‘’question-cry’’
1.PvP-is mechanicle,rotation knowledge improve
And counter on your crying
1.You don’t like ’’balance’’
2.You don’t like skills,combat system,build effectivity,variaty of builds,you don’t like expansion killed variety
3.PvP cap capture mode in ranked
4.You allready know that this game sucks,and ez to win,noskill need,GW2 IN 2K17 LOL
5.GW2 DIED
6.YOU HATE LEGENDARY TOASTER
Answer just one^^
1.Leave game,search for your PERFECTO mmorpg,go to WoW and grind dungeons,raids or go to Druidorgy PERFECTO PvP arena…cause other mmorpgs kinda suck,but you can share your opinion on better moorpg wich is better in nogrind,good PvP,and nopay2win(i am notalking about expansions shaking meta but just how PVE boosts stats in PVP like in WoW,i personally hate that)I WILL LISTEN I WANT TO FIND MY PERFECT MMORPG with normal PVE/PVP
2.Get life,i personally don’t have,and noneed i lvoe games,get grill if you’re rich or handsome and go on dates everyday till you have a child,i am sure she will be your Fun for some time,untill you sick
3.If you’re in school,get friends or kermit alone,drink,go to parties do wtf you want,go in for sport
4.Don’t go on forums,cry to your parents pls,friends,tell them
If you don’t like where game is going just leave,abandon,kermit noneed to search for answer from Sky
A guy with no life outside games is telling you what to do IRL. Interesting.
yep just you yourself have control over your skill rating. You started to play bad because thats a thing now somehow and if you think that your tripple thief or 4vs5 is the reason behind it you are wrong, its you.
Jesus how can someone even type this without sounding sarcastic LOL
Maybe you should read properly because said nothing about triple thief or 4vs5 or anything on that matter….LOL….
I mentioned it because the very same thing happened to me. Where i had 3 thieves almost 10 times in a row. People still believed its because of me that we lost you know, that I started to randomly play bad and lost 10 matches in a row. Not a slightly chance its the systems fault
That was one game at my doing, but I’ve had plenty where I was one of those 3 allies just tryin to play the game for the win. Completely out of my control and completely unwinnable and THAT is unfair to a personal skill rating for anyone regardless of division or skill.
Bro, you stated a complaint about bad players and admitted to being one on purpose for fun, in the same breath.
I think your Skill Rating is accurate.
It’s not a reflection of your best intentions, when you feel like trying. It’s an estimate of future performance, based on past performance.
In your case, inconsistent at best (or average, being generous). I hardly think that was your first, or last, afk.
If you consistently support your teammates more than you don’t, you’ll rise in Skill Rating.
I guess you just have to ask yourself why you’re so emotionally invested in a PvP Badge from an MMO. Is getting that Platinum or Legendary badge really so super-duper important that you’re willing to purposefully set out to ruin a group of people’s experience?
I didn’t start a complaint. If anything I was trying to enlighten.
I have a picture of a game that I just did then and I thought it might be relevant, you’ll notice the account name in the team chat, the leaderboards, my “accurate” skill rating combined with the match making. It automatically says there’s a problem. a BIG problem when in regards to player skill and accurate skill levels.
I’m sure you’re smart enough to see this for yourself? It’s a 600 point skill rating difference but we are on the same team, I also posted my skill rating gain, is +20 a game I’m meant to lose? On top of that is my total win loss ratio too so I can show you that matchmaking will always make me win some, then lose some, meaning I’m never going anywhere after my placements….. I’ll just leave it there.
WOW DUDE!!!! How dare you not to beat someone with 600+ rating? I mean if u cant beat someone who is 1800 rated you deserve to be 1200. And if you think that you are 1300 rating worthy, you have to beat that 1800 rated guy.
It all makes sense now, the skill rating accuracy its just amazing. Its all logic and math it must makes sense. 1200=1800 is the new guild wars 2 logic generation. You must let go your sanity and just accept the beauty of the logical matchmaking system.
Trying really hard to promote it everyday.
yep just you yourself have control over your skill rating. You started to play bad because thats a thing now somehow and if you think that your tripple thief or 4vs5 is the reason behind it you are wrong, its you.
Jesus how can someone even type this without sounding sarcastic LOL
You are also mistaking “MMR is accurate” for “MMR is perfectly accurate, all the time”, which your argument would break, yes. However, why did your skill go down 250 points in a day?
- you had an off day, and played really badly today
* you have high volatility because you have not played in a while
* you have high volatility because, despite randomly matching with players better and worse than you, you still lose when expected to win, and win when expected to lose
* your MMR is higher than your skill, and it’s still moving toward the correct value (which takes ~ 100 games)
* you switched your build or class to something else, and suck at it compared to the one you played before (right now, at least.)
* you duo-queued with someone with a very different MMR, and that made it harder for the MMR algorithm to home in on your skill
* you played at a super-quiet time, so a broader distribution of MMRs in the games, leading to increased volatility
1. When i have an off day i play maybe bad for the first 1 – 2 games not 12
2.+3. Decay was only on the first match. Supposed-to-win-match wouldnt result in 500-50 score. ( that was the score of 10 games out of 12)
4. I climbed to that rating with 120 + /- games played so if my skill rating was 250 rating below that, why was i allowed to progress there.
5. I played only one class entire 150 games + same build.
6. SoloQ only
7. Que was pretty fast.
I dont understand your reasoning with that you have the exact same chance to get that 600+ rating above players with you. If you were little aware you would realize that there are xxxx threads about how high rated players are stacked on one team vs low plat/high gold. You have to realize that the more RNG factors there are the less control you have over your personal skill rating. Its like playing dice-rolling game during queue and in match you have to work with what you got.
Its hard to call something skill rating when skill is not the only thing involved.
Please dont call it skill rating its so inaccurate. It could be called skill rating if it represented YOUR SKILL but it doesnt. 20% of the so called skill rating is you while 80% of it is random 4 players you get.
In each individual game, sure, it does — and your win or loss is determined in the same part by the five random players you face off on the other team. Over many games, it reflects your skill.
You seem to be making one of the classic mistakes, which is to look at a single event, then complaining that something that measures skill over many games is inaccurate.
You kinda forgot that the random 5 players that you are facing can have up to 600 more individual skill rating than you. Which can lead to – If u cant beat someone with 500+ rating, you wont progress.
It can be called skill rating if the matchmaking is perfectly balanced and that will never happen in gw2 due to population problem.
To your, so called classic mistake:
Does it make sense that my skill rating that reflect my skill ( thats what you think i guess) will go drastically down in over a day. We are talking about 250 rating here. If the skill rating perfectly represents your skill that situation should never happen unless my playstyle went really downhill or the matchmaking of the game is bad.
Hmm let me guess which one will it be….
Yeah why would anet work on improving matchmaking when they can work on making leaderboards pretty.
Please dont call it skill rating its so inaccurate. It could be called skill rating if it represented YOUR SKILL but it doesnt. 20% of the so called skill rating is you while 80% of it is random 4 players you get.
But if you think that skill rating truly shows your and only your skill level, then explain, how can some players with skill rating belonging to 0,5% top players drop to skill rating of 5% in over 10 games with total games played being 150+ .
Im feeling some strange connection between Lordrosicky and Vingador. One is basically a gw2 meme and the other one is turning into one
and if u disagree with me you are lying to yourself.
I was at position 100 and one game later i wasnt in ladder. Took me like 8-7 win streak to get from 250 to 100 though.
If you wont get lucky or abuse the matchmaking system as much as possible, you wont climb. (duoQ / Q at night so you play vs gold / dodge other players in top 50)
didnt take a screenshot but…
didnt play for like a week..ended up having 600 decay.
won the first 6 games..got my 100+ from every win + an average of 30 points.
Was struggling to get out of bronze…suddenly i was in silver ( from the 180 points i got from the winnings)
before decay i got around 13-14 from winning
whats up with that?Should i wait untill i get decay to stat playing, since i will get way more points from that??
I got punished by this mechanic, kept loosing 35+/- after 4 days break. ANET loves to punish people that cant play the game 24/7. When the loss streak ended i started winning 12 rating. Amazing.
Also guess what is going to happen when you take a break for 4-5 days? You are not going to perform as good as you did when you played more often which can lead to an easy loss within the first games you play after break, somehow ANET wants to punish these games as much as possible.
I recommend playing on alt account or unrankeds after your x days break to get kinda back to your skill level. Wish there was someone who warned me about the volatility of rating gain/loss with decay, now my 150 games effort is gone.
Just like i started to play from one day to another like a gold player from t3 plat, you started to play like a silver. Yep that must be it, I see no other logical explanation. It cant be the system that is matching you 15 times in a row with minimum of 3 thieves on a team that are unwilling to swap while enemy team got perfectly meta team. It also cant be the fact that matchmaking range can go up to 600-700 rating gap between players in the same match.
This game is a dice-rolling game. As a solo que you can roll from 1 to 6 as duo you can roll from 2 to 6. Trust me you can roll that number 1 as many times as 15 in a row and that number leads to uncarriable matches. Even if you explain your team that when you sustain 1vs3 at far point they should outnumber every other point and win —→ Its not going to happen because 2 of the teammates runs to you when you are about to die and they die with you. When i watched helseths stream, most of the time he got a team that respected his tactic and let him 1vs3 without going to his point. Probably gotta do something with him being ESL player and a streamer.
The point of my post: RNG factor in this game is too big. The better you are the higher chances you will be able to lower the RNG factor, but you will never be able to get rid of it. That means even if you are good you can get unlucky and go on a 10+ lose streak. If that happens, your 100-200 games played this season, all the effort from these games is gone, because you rolled number 1, 10 times in a row.
Maybe kite and dont sit on a point like a DH trap. Vault evade frame is not through the entire vault btw, when vault is about to land there is no evade frame at all so you can time your daze/stun to hit the thief at nearly the end of vault animation. Bounding dodge is not even used 100% to always deal damage so dont act like every dodge is landed on your head because if it does its l2p issue. Not even speaking about the mobility sacrifice thief has to make to be somewhat relevant in teamfights with staff build + doesnt change the fact that thief can still be oneshot if he is caught off in non-evade.
They created perfectly optimal matchmaking system with no flaws in it. Same goes for profession balance. ANET PvP team can take break for a year now.
In tier 3 platinum a lose streak not even that big can mean dropping to gold which happened to me. Somehow my skill-level dropped in one day from 1900 to 1650. Since your rating = pure skill ONLY now, (some people see it that way, even anet probably) it probably means that i just started randomly from one day to another play bad. Thats very likely. Yep. The delusional people opened my eyes its all clear now.
When i get first time PvPer in my team with 500AP vs top 10 and lose that game, its because im bad and should be punished for it.
No but seriously now, matchmaking in this game will never ever be good simply because of the lack of players. Ratings difference in matches can go up to 700 rating which is totally absurd. Anet sacrificed the already bad matchmaking to even worse in favour of shorter queues. Because of the same reason class stacking will never be fixed. That means you will be forced to play other professions if u want to have atleast 50% winrate. Me, as a thief main, get to play thief in 1 out of 10 matches if i dont want to end up with 3 thieves in team.
And finally the top players connected! To farm gold/low plat players via the amazing competetive matchmaking system
Don’t want to be mean, but we are talking about the current pros and cons of keeping the esport scene alive. The current ranked matchmaking is completely irrelevant to the discussion and you already have your own topic to pour your own salt.
I’d like to keep the discussion constructive.
So you want a game to have an e-sport scene while its unable to provide quality matchmaking ranked system and unable to provide a serious team training ground or team leaderboards? E-sport in gw2 waved goodbye when solo/duo was announced.
Hope that is enough constructive of a respond.
Funny how you can literally make thread about how to exploit while anet ignores it lel.
pvp more views than ever
more hype than ever behind competitive events
more interest in pvp in general from gw than evertop pvp players are more connected rn than ever
‘’stop esports!’’
pls, it finally has a fair chance.
And finally the top players connected! To farm gold/low plat players via the amazing competetive matchmaking system
I can only play once every few days and here I am, -650 decay and in Bronze (never been there lel)
I only played 2 matches and what annoys me most is that I lost both of them and lost +100 rating for it.
Like wtf, can’t carry teams going 5v1 mid all the time.
Second game I got farmed by enemy thief much better than me, probably being in bronze due decay aswel but..
MM doesnt make any sense when playing with decay… U got put with ppl who are stuck in bronze (new or less exp players) and ppl who come from Gold/Pat and Legendary (good, veteran players) being in Bronze due decay.The MMR is way too volatile when playing with decay.
THAT IS A NO-GO.
Here in Anet we like to punish people that dont have the luxury to log in everyday.
But seriously, MM really doesnt make any sense. I can see top 20-50 players whiteknight-ing the new system because it rewards them with free rating in the sense: top rank 1 and 2 or w/e rank in top 50 duoQ while farming gold teams. When i see on their stream that they get 1 gold player they almost burst into tears because they will lose a game saying how uncarriable it is. 1 gold player in their team. 1 player. Meanwhile they play vs mix of 4 gold players, 1 plat.
Such Competitiveness
Much E-sports
wow
The under water combat system is even 10 times more unbalanced than normal ground combat. That would require a good amount of time to fix. Id rather have anet focusing on problems the game has since beta.
So I was top 50 for a while, couldn’t get a single game against anyone else in the top 50 for the life of me. Decide to just tank my rating cause I’m not having fun, drop out of the top 250. Immediately when I get out of the top 250 I get put into games with duos in the top 25. Are you kidding me anet like for real you need to hotfix this.
Same exact thing happened to me. Was top 100 didnt play against SINGLE top 50 player, instead i was matched with gold players in my team and got dragged down into plat t1/t3 gold and THEN i got matched against top rank 2 and 3 duo. When there was 250 rating difference i didnt play vs them but when there was 550 rating difference i did? This is the reason why they win 4-5 rating in legendary, because they play vs gold. So gold=legendary pretty much i guess?. I thought that matchmaking in silver/gold is so much worse but its actually the opposite. Also dropped from rank 100 out of top 250 in just one lost game. 10/10 system
Someone says this every season…
Some people even give you the arguments from their experience with the season but you can just ignore those and type that instead. If i wanted RNG game i would go to casino but heyyyyy GW2 is doing the job just fine.
So GW will never have good matchmaking because there is not enough players to make it balanced enough. Some people are in denial though and think the matchmaking is perfect.
The inherent flaw is that pvp is a team game that’s currently organized as a pug system. The only control you have is to duo with someone you know.
It’s odd that people claim they advance because of their skill but when they lose it’s only because of bad luck and matchmaking.
I don’t believe this season stacks teams. I’ve played against a few top players in gold as well but it’s a rarity and I’ve had just as many bad players on my team as the opposing team.
As for scores determining balance that’s not always true. Matches can snowball quite easily based on a variety of factors not just skill. If you look at a lot of sports series – a lot of the games end up being blow outs despite the series being close and the teams matched.I’m all for them instituting a team ranked queue again. That would solve a lot of the problems, but until they do this is what it is. A bunch of random pugs trying to play a team based match.
I mean you are kinda digging your own grave here. Pretty much what you are admitting now is that me advancing or dropping in rating is purely matter of RNG. I also can tell the difference when i play good/bad and when my team is good/bad. It also kinda look like that u know more about the matches that i played more than me somehow.
EDIT: Contradicting much btw? You say you believe this season doesnt stack teams and in next sentence you say that it happened.
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The worst season was the one where teams were stacked so the outcome was predetermined. This season has its flaws but I still think it’s better than last ones.
If you’re playing in platinum and gold, unlikely that you’d be running into many of the PVE players as they are mostly in bronze.
Placement matches tended to over rank people so you may be dropping down to a more appropriate level.
Matchmaking just as likely to have other team comp crappy as yours.
Oh you think i placed luckily in plat 3. No. I placed in low gold and climbed to 1900 with about 120 games played. Now i dropped to gold 3 with 12 lose streak. If that is not RNG then i dont know what it is (500-100 matches are obviously not balanced at all), and you think matchmaking is balanced? I played as gold vs top 10 players. But i never had top 10 players in my team vs full gold team. So what is just as likely exactly?
Matchmaking was sorta fine early on due to big population. Then once people stopping playing as much the flaws became more obvious.
The exact same thing happened to my friend as you OP:
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/pvp/Matchmaking-s-greatest-yet/6466579
Gold 3 and vs top 10 duo/top 50 duo.
It’s a joke, why even bother.
At 1900 rating i didnt face any of top players but at 1600 i do. I dont even need to tell that when u play vs 1 of the top players they are automatically 2 because they never ever soloQ.
How exactly has the matchmaking improved because i see no difference between season 1-4 and this one. 10 games in a row i get 2 – 3 thieves + rev + w/e(doesnt matter anymore right?) while enemy team got perfectly META team. Why is the matchmaking like this? You are forcing people to reroll every single match. Would also like to have an explanation why i dropped from rank 110 to gold 3 after 12 lose streak while 80% of matches are 500-100/200. Did my skill level dropped over night from almost legendary to gold 3 because u know i kinda find that hard to believe.
Another thing is why as a gold 3 player am i playing vs TOP 10 players. There is 550 RATING difference. Why does your amazing matchmaking code think I can beat someone 550 rating above me? Why are top players not playing between themselves? Why are they more likely to get placed in the same team vs full gold/low plat team?
This season for me is the WORST one yet, same RNG-fest as other seasons. I was really hoping for something good when solo/duo was announced but it didnt improve a single bit. Same problems over and over and over since the beta you didnt improve.
The last thing; What was the decision making when you added PVE LOOT into PVP MODE and make it literally free loot for everyone? I saw so many PvE players coming to pvp that doesnt care if they win/lose because heeyyyyy they will get the loot anyway. Are you seriously rewarding pve players in pvp mode more than pvp players?
Im leaving spvp for this season and got very little hope that next one will be better.