Guild Wars 2

guanlongwucaii.3162:

that’s why you rotate between GS and sword.

I mean gs and sword combo still doing 3% less damage than sword. It is because you still have to use gs auto for 7 more secs (assume you swap immediately when swap is available).

Morsus.5106:

You have Knight w/ Knight Trinkets, but what about Knight w/ Zerker trinkets? That’s what’s always been recommended to me at least.

I have added knight + zerker stat in the picture. Indeed knight + zerker is the best after full zerker/assasin set (roughly 10% less damage than zerker).

Yaki.9563:

If those numbers are true why would you go anything other than hammer in PvE? 5% DPS loss for permanent protection? Yes please.

Edit: and extra defensive stats, boon duration, and group support…

Edit2: Also, lol @ celestial gear beating soldiers and knights armor. Goes to show how broken the crit damage stat was.

Just something to add on, the light field from the SoP is just annoying when you have ele in your party. Also, I really hate the long auto chain of the hammer. Sometimes, the chain is interrupted and hence the dps is reduced.

Obtena.7952:

If someone could make this an app on a webpage, then we would have something … I would like to run my own setups for theoretical damage.

I could do that, but it just involve too much work. Also, from the respond I have, not many people actually interested in such calculator.
Anyway, if you like to have a look at the spreadsheet, you can find it here http://darlie50.heliohost.org/.

guanlongwucaii.3162:

If you think about it permanent protection is fairly useless in most dungeons and the extra 5% (more if you include GS rotations I’m sure) damage is the way to go. Most trash die before they can do much (1 GS rotation and most trash groups will be dead) or are blinded (e.g. with sword 2). Bosses oneshot most of the time, or do enough damage that even with protection you’re still losing scholar bonus. You should be using aegis for boss attacks anyway. Sword can also help prevent incoming damage altogether with the sword blind.

What I found is that gs is actually has more burst damage than sustained damage. Like warrior gs, guardian gs has a rather low auto attack damage. Depending on your trait and build, gs could do up to 5% less damage than sword (mainly because you get 2 sigils for sword).

Since I am a bit bored lately and so I have spent some time building a spreadsheet for guardian. I have found a few interesting points after playing around with some numbers. If you have any questions, or like to have a look at the spreadsheet, feel free to contact me.

About the calculation

A lot of the formulae are taken from the forum. The effective power I have should match the number provided by gw2buildcraft.com. Some of the numbers have been tested in game.

For calculating the average damage for each weapon set, I calculated the damage for each skill and divide it by its execution time. For example, sword skill 3 can deal 21998 damage with a 2 secs execution time. So it’s dps is 10999. For a full skill rotation, I summed up all the damage for each skills, and divide it by its total execution time. I believe through this way, a more accurate number can be obtained.

With this method, it is crucial that the execution time is properly obtained. There are several results that can be found in the forum. Typically, the person will use a stopwatch to time hits against the golems at Heart of the Mist. I find those method are a bit less reliable. What I did was capture the attacks on a video. Then I used a video editing software to find the exact frame the skill starts and ends. For most skills, I do have a good confidence of its execution time. Note that, the execution time can be longer due to latency issue.

Buff

• Sigil of force + sigil of night for one-handler, sigil of night for two-hander
• Assume full ascended gear, with scholar rune (no infusion stat)
• When selecting trait, the trait corresponding to the weapon is selected (if enough trait points is invested). For example Scepter Power is used when scepter is equipped.
• No Unscathed Contender. Assume 100% uptime on Elusive Power and 100% uptime on Fiery Wrath.
• 25 stacks of might
• Perma fury
• 25 stacks of vulnerability
• 25 stacks of bloodlust
• Plate of Steak and Asparagus (to poor to actually buy Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Butternut Squash Soup)
• 10% slayer potion
• Banner of Strength
• Banner of Discipline

Result

The estimated damage for various build on berserker gear are shown on the picture. In addition, I also calculated the number for different type of gears (all in ascended).

http://imgur.com/94SClZv

http://imgur.com/UJDYoxj

Scepter with high damage?

As you can see, scepter has really high dps. But, it is assume that all the orb of Smite actually connect. In reality, I found that only 10-12 of 16 orbs actually hit the target. So that’s a roughly 20% decrease in damage.

Why not max dps build?

Crit damage provided by valor trait and buff from Retributive Armor really boost up guardian dps by a fair bit. However, you will left with a limited support to the party. I personally don’t encourage to use them in dungeon. But they are certainly good build for wvw roamers.

Use of RHS

I know a lot of people are against the use of RHS. However, I find it a really good trait for casual or semi hardcore dungeon runners. I find myself almost unlikely to hit 100% crit chance with all the buffs I can get. This is because I hardly has ranger in my party. Without Spotter, 10/30/0/5/25 actually out dps 20/25/0/0/25 by 1.2% (see the damage figures in the picture). However, if you have a ranger in your party, 20/25/0/0/25 actually doing better. With spotter and frost, 20/25/0/0/25 does 11188 damage per second, whereas, 10/30/0/5/25 gives 11075. That’s a 1% different.

Also, greatsword and sword rotation only worth it if you have sigil of night on your greatsword. It is a dps lost if you only have sigil of force.
I also notice that guardian’s greatsword is a lot like warrior’s greatsword. It has a rather weak auto attack but powerful skill 2, 4 and 5 with relatively long cooldown. To maximize dps for greatsword, it is best to swap to sword while it’s skills are in cooldown.

Hammer

Hammer actually does a very decent damage. 15/25/0/20/10 is actually among the highest dps build guardian has. The highest dps rotation will be skill #2 followed by 2 chains of auto attacks.

Knight vs Soldier

I am a bit surprised that knight actually does similar damage compared to soldier gear. Maybe it is because of the trait I used in the calculation. The trait already provided a good amount of crit chance. Also, knight gear has a lower power which actually has a bigger impact in dps.

Edit

I posted the spreadsheet here. http://darlie50.heliohost.org/