Guild Wars 2

Uncontested on Aurora Glade (EU)

Lord Trejgon.2809:

Lillith.5724:

Axes, GS, and swords…what are we talking about here? The Warrior/Ranger? Oh that’s right, they are out there.
I just want my ranger to use her bows, pets and spirits like we’re supposed to. Tired of rangers getting “overlooked” on the real problems here and the solution is to “just use the axe or GS”..WTF? I’m a ranger!! o.O

Aragorn was also ranger… and was catched to using bow just once!

PS. Aragorn was a member of group who was precursors of all the “ranger” classes – Rangers of the North

EDIT: need to remember never read his tread again – can’t breathe from laughing
seriously – There are two options for me – ranger class isn’t for you guys… or You just can’t play a ranger (or compleining just to complain.. ops thats three)
Played ranger from the begging – comperd with guardian and thief – ranger is still best for me from all of those

Yes, we all know Aragorn’s story. He was caught using bow only once (in the film), Tolkien gives no info about him using any ranged weapon in the book. Yet in all MMORPGs I know (and we are talking about GW2- which is a game, not book) when I hear ranger I immediately imagine guy with a bow. And surprise, surprise: developers think the same way giving us bows in every RPG game I play. So please refrain from giving us ‘ranger’ word origin lecture(yeah we know that it’s originated from line of men, not range) and famous Aragorn (yeah we know that he was a ranger without a bow). Instead please provide us with info about any other game in the last 10-15 years which gives us a ranger without a bow as his main weapon.

P.S. I really can’t breath from laughing at all of you ‘I will write something smart about Aragorn- I bet no one knows about it’ guys.

After seeing this I really regret that I spent so many hours on my ranger.. I re-rolled warrior and I can finally see what does it mean to really enjoy your game. At least traits are well thought about, unlike ranger Traps and Pet buffs in precision/crit tree. Or signets in Marksmanship. I’ll wait and see what next couple of patches bring and if they fix this I will probably go back to my ranger. Thanks Anet for not doing anything to address what is broken in my class, nerfing stuff all around is really a way to go, gz.

@garethh
I don’t know much about PvE. My experience with pet is mainly from wvw. But I explored 100% of PvE content, just to lvl up my toon and get the title. I have never thought about stowing my pet back there. It was really useful. It barely died, I was able to switch it when it has 10% hp no problem. It used to tank veteran and sometimes even champions for me. But I am no longer playing PvE. And in wvw pets are of limited use.

What I wrote about different classes.. Look. They have to be alive to use their skills. Now we have a pet which has to be alive in order to perform our f skills. If your pet is dead you can’t use your f skills. And I agree- mechanics is mechanics. I do not want anything in exchange for stowing my pet. I just want the option to hid it when I don’t use it. And sorry, I cannot stay out of combat all the time in wvw. That would be really pointless.

Finally, believe me or not after playing more than 430 hours on ranger I am well aware of the passive mode our pets have. But from what I’ve experienced they still tend to wander around and pull random mobs. Also they enjoy standing right in the middle of enemy aoes, even if their master is like 20 ft away.

Having that said I think it is my last post in this thread. Let’s wait till the 14th Dec patch and see how our pets are going to work after. There is no need for us to argue now before seeing new improvements.

Garmr.5672:

Pet fixes are great and thank you, but I’d really like to see a way to “perma” stow my pets and give myself an uptick in DPS by doing so. Some situations I just do not want my pet out. Also, if we can make it so the pet doesn’t pop out on damage, fall or otherwise, that would be fantastic. Thanks for the attention Jon.

What he said.
Anyway, I really love to see how you guys work hard on delivering those improvements. Thank you for that.

I am going to repeat myself as all of those with: ‘Anet said this and that 4 months ago and I won’t allow them to change their minds.’ Okay here I go. It’s all about having an option. You hear that? Option. Pet stowing shouldn’t be mandatory. If you want to play with it, that’s okay with me. I don’t want to delete them completely. It’s just about them being useless in so many situations I’ve encountered. Yes if you play PVE, they sure rocks (not in dungeons or Orr). That’s why ranger used to be so popular among botters. They brainlessly send their pet to attack and tank their prey. Easy loot. But that is not going to happen in wvw. And really if you rely on your pet fighting there.. then sorry to jump over your dead body. Believe me no one is going to aim at your pet. No one. It is only a fly and as long as your enemy moves around it is not annoying at all. And aoe is going to kill them anyway. Having the option (love this word ) to stow your pet permanently and then let him pop out while you are downed with full hp would be really something to deal with. Summoning wolf with instant fear? I like it. It keeps enemy from stomping you. And it can save your butt. And how does it look like now? Your pet keeps wandering aimlessly on the battlefield 20 ft from you, and even if you press f2 it won’t work. Believe me, I’ve tried. Success rate- about 10%. So please do visit other battlegrounds available in the game before you start talking about ‘how did my pet save me today’.

I still don’t see why all of you make such a fuss about it. Having an option to stow pet permanently won’t harm you at all. No one will be taking your beloved pets from you so calm down. It’s just better to have an option than don’t have it at all. We are all playing the same class and if u see that you can make more dps with your pet, then kitten do as you please. I just hate when ppl ignore the alternative. Even slight compensation in dps won’t harm you at all. You really seem to see it like that: ‘Anet will let them stow their pets, they get like 10% more dps and now we are forced to run the same build as them!’ If u like to play with pets that’s up to you.

If you want to still ignore what I say, then please make a separate thread in which you ask Anet to rename Rangers into Beastmasters and then I promise I will be quiet for the rest of my days here in this forum. The current name of the class is extremely misleading for all of those who pick ranger for the ‘range’ part. And please do remember when there was no option to stow pet out of combat (during beta). They implemented the feature back then, so now let’s just wait for Anet developers do the same with permanent stow. It is only a matter of time.

No Loki, we do not want to be like any other class out there. I do not want to have phantasms, backstab or whatever else you wrote in your comment. We all just want to have an option to use our own skills in a same controllable way every other class do. Not in automatic way. And really if you can’t think of any reasons for hiding pet, try WvW. In pvE, even sPvP pets are way more beneficial, while in wvw they die constantly. Try it yourself it may change the way you think. And if making screenshots is the only reason why you play this game.. Well, let me tell you one thing: You are doing it wrong.

@garethh.3518
Show me exactly where I told that I want to stow pet for an extra dmg. Your argument with mesmer is invalid. What most of you guys seem to not understand is that every class has an OPTION to perform a certain action. Mesmer has to click the button to summon phantasms and has the skills F1-F4 to destroy them. Necro has to summon pets and has its F1 form. Thief has to click the steal button. Warrior with its ultrarage attack has to click F1. Engi has a buttons with certain actions. So does Elementalist. Guardian has his virtues. All those skills are clickable. While we as a Ranger are forced to have our pet all the time. I see no balance here. Now imagine that all those classes are forced to play as we do. Thieves do autosteal when entering the combat. Warriors attack with its ulti whenever its fully charged. Guardians Uses its virtues immediately after entering the combat. Necros are forced to change to their f1 form when in combat. Elementalists have their f1-f4 automatically changed for them. Engi are automatically using their belt skills when in combat. This is exactly how I feel when playing ranger. Instead of having option to perform an f1 action- I am forced to do it constantly.

And frankly I do not wish to delete the pets. I just want to stow them. Why can I give them commands to perform different actions and I can’t hid it when they are under heavy attack? You Beastmasters are telling us that pets are for life. In real life I agree. But seeing my pet suffer because it’s poorly designed drives me mad really. And all I ask for is a button in Pet (K) menu with two options: ‘Pop out my pet while in combat’/‘Leave my pet stowed while in combat’. Is this really so harmful for you to accept this solution? I do not want and extra dmg in exchange. I still do kill ppl with my RIP pet. I will just do it better with him popping out when I order him to do so. And all it takes is to let the pet pop out when we press f1 button and attack our target. That could change pets really into something useful. Right now an army of rangers with their pets out can do only one thing – create more rendering issues in wvw.

Does it really hurt all of those ‘Beastmasters’ here to have more options? If you guys want to run with pets, then please do so. If someone wants to stow their pets permanently, then let them have it. I participate in WvW quite frequently and all the time I am forced to drag my dead pet along. It is really not fun. My pets AI successfully prevents me from using them in any other way than the 20 sec cd source of quickness. They can’t avoid aoe. They die extremely fast even if they are supposed to stay by my side. Also they pull random mobs even if I don’t want them to. Finally I have to wait for their f2 to activate and it failed me numerous times. But I am not here to whine about pets (which I have already done, sorry about that). I am here to tell you that having more options does not hurt. Being able to run different builds is all that we have in this game. Take any other class in the game and their ‘core’ mechanics. For example, thieves and stealth. If you play one you can choose whether to build for stealth or not. I’ve seen many thieves without stealth. Why? Because they have an option to do so. And before anyone tells me to roll thief- I do not wish to lvl up another toon and spend my time to farm money for eq. I barely managed to equip my ranger in exotics, because I do not pvE so often. So in the end guys I think that perma stowing won’t be implemented in this game (and I really hope that I am wrong. Having an option to build a Marksman instead of a Beastmaster would be a great deal for all of those who enjoy RANGEd combat and that’s the main reason they’ve chosen RANGEr class