Elite Specializations & Hero Point Feedback [Merged]
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Thieves have poor damage (infact they have on par DPS with necromancer if you want to have DPS comparisons over a minute fight.), they do however have high burst.
Burst can be prevented by doing a lot of things.
If they cannot kill you in that 5 second window, they are dead, they cannot do anything but run away or autoattack you and hope you die.
If you have runes/or submit resources to traits that prevent burst, thieves are MEAT.
Many players ignore this however, and complain instead, because its much easier to fix others then fix themselves.
Seeing that you have made so many post defending thieves and sharing your infos I can only assume you play one?
“Thieves have poor damage” – with runes and traits thieves have high % add on damage atking from side/behind those are not minor add ons.
“Burst can be prevented by doing a lot of things” – that sure explains alot
“If they cannot kill you in that 5 second window, they are dead” – they kill ppl in 1-2 hits thats under 2sec. and no they are not dead if they cant kill under 5 they pop their stealth one after another.
Guess what, after popping the x number of stealth and walking away away from battle they can just wp back.
This is why I urge everyone to make a thief at least when that happens everyone is on the same level. Nobody has any advantage over anyone else end of story.
LOL its so funny to see people trying to defend the thief class. If you understand the human psychology then you would know it is natural for them to defend something to keep their advantage.
No one would be complaining if this class was balanced in the first place. Why don’t people complain so much about the other classes? As far I can see they are not bad enough to make it to the hot topics on this section! It doesn’t matter what reasons you guys give. As a fact, the percentage of thieves in game has been increasing. You guys keep on giving references on how some of the other glass cannons are just the same. lmao that’s a joke, because they are pretty much dead if they fail, but as a theif? you just simply walk away without a scratch.
I have played all of the classes, and let me tell you the thief class is op. If you want kills you can just spam certain skills. If we are talking about 1v1 then the learning curve for theif is close to flat in comparison to some of the other classes.
The op combination that thief has: invisible + movement gank/escape abilities + high damage + hard to finish off.
Some people think thieves are squishy, but do you know there are other classes with same / less defence without the invisible and/or movement?
If Anet wants GW2 to be a fast food then just leave thieves the way they are. New players who did not play thief and get killed all the time will :
1 reroll a thief
2 go play a different game not so unbalanced.If you play on the most populated server then you would know so far the number of players are decreasing. Class unbalance may not be the only reason but it is one of the main reasons why people quit. People quit when they dont like something about a game. For example, the class unbalance and the lack of pvp in d3. Very few people are rejoining that game because it is easier to loose player than to attract.
PS: I only use thief in spvp and wvw because they are op. The only time I play other classes are when I actually want to enjoy the other fun parts of this game.
Bottom line, people are NOT stupid, there is a reason why the majority of them play a certain class in pvps.
If you understood human psychology you would know there’s a lot more to it than that. People also tend to pick out things that support their side of an argument. they are also more likely to remember getting beat than winning and Are prone to exaggerate and distort the more they think about it.
Thieves are, no doubt, strong right now but they aren’t OP. OP gets thrown around pretty loose now, when it used to imply a lot more then tough to beat.
There are been tons of threads posted of experienced thieves giving away their weaknesses, and they have Been honest. T
Thieves are beatable, and have little to offer to the team as a whole other than damage. Those 10k backstabs are usually due to debuffs and boons stacked in favor of the thief.
I’m simply stating a fact. As I was saying, I have played every class in the game. And I see thieves as the top class in pvp. Why do thieves have a higher chance to beat others? This is the question. In a fair fight each party should have the same chance to win. Not all thief players are top players, yet they are winning the most fights.
“strong right now” could be interpreted as op in another person’s view. So in your view they may not be defined as op. However according to the majority of the other players they are op. That is why we see so many people writing posts about how op they are on the forums. How the majority define something makes it a norm. In this case, op as that is how almost everyone else call it.
Thieves team fight may not be the best, but certainly not the worst. Aoe, single target burst are still there. What changed is that they are hated so people target them first Why and who’s to blame for that? I have seen a lot of posts of thief players giving away their weaknesses. Yes, but here is a question. Why should other classes be extra cautious when facing a thief? For example, turning up their speakers just for this one class’s skills.
One combo burst kill is just too easy with this class. After that I can just pop a stealth and walk away. Guess who has the most stealth skills in game?
I don’t really care if Anet does what to this game. But so far their pvps are unbalance. I have many characters so I don’t need to pick a side. Just my objective view.
LOL its so funny to see people trying to defend the thief class. If you understand the human psychology then you would know it is natural for them to defend something to keep their advantage.
No one would be complaining if this class was balanced in the first place. Why don’t people complain so much about the other classes? As far I can see they are not bad enough to make it to the hot topics on this section! It doesn’t matter what reasons you guys give. As a fact, the percentage of thieves in game has been increasing. You guys keep on giving references on how some of the other glass cannons are just the same. lmao that’s a joke, because they are pretty much dead if they fail, but as a theif? you just simply walk away without a scratch.
I have played all of the classes, and let me tell you the thief class is op. If you want kills you can just spam certain skills. If we are talking about 1v1 then the learning curve for theif is close to flat in comparison to some of the other classes.
The op combination that thief has: invisible + movement gank/escape abilities + high damage + hard to finish off.
Some people think thieves are squishy, but do you know there are other classes with same / less defence without the invisible and/or movement?
If Anet wants GW2 to be a fast food then just leave thieves the way they are. New players who did not play thief and get killed all the time will :
1 reroll a thief
2 go play a different game not so unbalanced.
If you play on the most populated server then you would know so far the number of players are decreasing. Class unbalance may not be the only reason but it is one of the main reasons why people quit. People quit when they dont like something about a game. For example, the class unbalance and the lack of pvp in d3. Very few people are rejoining that game because it is easier to loose player than to attract.
PS: I only use thief in spvp and wvw because they are op. The only time I play other classes are when I actually want to enjoy the other fun parts of this game.
Bottom line, people are NOT stupid, there is a reason why the majority of them play a certain class in pvps.