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Posted by: Zardul.3952

Zardul.3952

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

Main: lvl 80 Ranger ,
Alt: lvl 80 Mesmer

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

You know why they’re moaning? Because the update is so awesome, they’re moaning in ecstasy.

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Posted by: Avigrus.2871

Avigrus.2871

Feast on the tears of the QQ’ers

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Posted by: ukuni.8745

ukuni.8745

Jesus I wish my internet was connected already, then I could feast on ranger tears.

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Posted by: Simon.3794

Simon.3794

Did you QQ when war became OP?
then you have no right to post this thread lol

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Posted by: Mbelch.9028

Mbelch.9028

Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation, still. Please continue to feast on the tears of the noobs while the people who don’t care about your pew pew continue to pick you off.

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Posted by: warriorjrd.8695

warriorjrd.8695

Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation

Lol, what? Do you even play the same game as everybody else?


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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation, still. Please continue to feast on the tears of the noobs while the people who don’t care about your pew pew continue to pick you off.

k, keep believing that. Makes it just that much easier to rek you.

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

RyuDragnier.9476

Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation, still. Please continue to feast on the tears of the noobs while the people who don’t care about your pew pew continue to pick you off.

I lol’d. Rangers excel in 1v1. It’s anything higher than that they tend to lean towards useless in.

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Posted by: Auesis.7301

Auesis.7301

Meanwhile I’m avoiding 90% of the faster Rapid Fire with one dodge then easily slaughtering the Ranger when I get up close.

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Posted by: TrOtskY.5927

TrOtskY.5927

rangers ARE pretty much useless in 1v1 against any enemy that has a gap closer. They are much more deadly than before at sitting off points and pew pewing than before, that’s about all they got in terms of buffs. To say they “excel” in 1v1 is just not true at all. They don’t really excel in anything….except pew pew

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

rangers ARE pretty much useless in 1v1 against any enemy that has a gap closer. They are much more deadly than before at sitting off points and pew pewing than before, that’s about all they got in terms of buffs. To say they “excel” in 1v1 is just not true at all. They don’t really excel in anything….except pew pew

longbow nabs perhaps, try fight a condition bunker or BM spec. Please return here when you can “faceroll” those setups ONE VERSUS ONE. And not FIVE VERSUS ONE.

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Posted by: TrOtskY.5927

TrOtskY.5927

true, but I thought we were talking about rapid fire rangers. Condi is pretty strong (I don’t rate it as much as you do though) and BM I just find more of a nuisance than particularly amazing at 1v1.

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Posted by: MarauderShields.6830

MarauderShields.6830

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

The players that wiped the floor with you for 2 years now will not stay on their underpowered classes. I for one shelved my thief and switched to ranger, and I keep wrecking the same terribad ranger players as before. Nothing will change, you will just be beaten by your own class.

Former running-really-fast-man. Now proud member of Revenant clan.

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Posted by: Frenk.5917

Frenk.5917

I’ve had few problems fighting rangers right after they were buffed because I wasn’t used to fighting them: I could beat them, but not easily.

Then I made a ranger (there’s a topic of mine, in the Ranger section asking for help) and after discovering they are truly FUN to play, I also understood better their mechanics. Now I do not ignore their pets anymore, for example. Ranger is in a very good spot, at the moment, but I do not think it’s OP.
I should also point out that I’m speaking from a TPVP perspective.

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Posted by: warriorjrd.8695

warriorjrd.8695

true, but I thought we were talking about rapid fire rangers. Condi is pretty strong (I don’t rate it as much as you do though) and BM I just find more of a nuisance than particularly amazing at 1v1.

“rapid fire” rangers isn’t even a proper build. It’s scrubs hopping on the class using a LB and throwing all their utilities towards one attack. Of course that won’t excel at 1v1, but if you think that’s all rangers have to offer than you need to get yourself better acquainted with the class.


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Posted by: Daishi.6027

Daishi.6027

I don’t get the moaning. Glass ranger is actually fair.

I’ve hated rangers for the longest time, all the “Good” rangers were supporting teams via passives that gave birth to our petting zoo/hambow meta. Then the dirtiest of no risk sustain even beyond levels of PU mesmers was that of BM rangers and that was at least viable on point.

But a ranger that can actually do damage and can actually die instead of a “dearp de kitten watch me force off point while I fall asleep at my keyboard.” Its great! Rangers got the love they deserved and actually requires proper play and has good counter play. There MAY be a few things to look at being relatively new (like a proper animation for point blank shot and perhaps a slightly longer c/d) but at least the build is relatively fair.

It only takes one game of 5 rangers sniping and destroying your team for you to learn how to out play each one, till you can 2v1 depending on build and class.

“I control time and space; you can’t break free.~”
“Maybe I was the illusion all along!”

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Posted by: TrOtskY.5927

TrOtskY.5927

true, but I thought we were talking about rapid fire rangers. Condi is pretty strong (I don’t rate it as much as you do though) and BM I just find more of a nuisance than particularly amazing at 1v1.

“rapid fire” rangers isn’t even a proper build. It’s scrubs hopping on the class using a LB and throwing all their utilities towards one attack. Of course that won’t excel at 1v1, but if you think that’s all rangers have to offer than you need to get yourself better acquainted with the class.

Rangers are still bad bro

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

Zenos Osgorma.2936

true, but I thought we were talking about rapid fire rangers. Condi is pretty strong (I don’t rate it as much as you do though) and BM I just find more of a nuisance than particularly amazing at 1v1.

“rapid fire” rangers isn’t even a proper build. It’s scrubs hopping on the class using a LB and throwing all their utilities towards one attack. Of course that won’t excel at 1v1, but if you think that’s all rangers have to offer than you need to get yourself better acquainted with the class.

Rangers are still bad bro

I laugh in your General Direction.

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Posted by: warriorjrd.8695

warriorjrd.8695

true, but I thought we were talking about rapid fire rangers. Condi is pretty strong (I don’t rate it as much as you do though) and BM I just find more of a nuisance than particularly amazing at 1v1.

“rapid fire” rangers isn’t even a proper build. It’s scrubs hopping on the class using a LB and throwing all their utilities towards one attack. Of course that won’t excel at 1v1, but if you think that’s all rangers have to offer than you need to get yourself better acquainted with the class.

Rangers are still bad bro

If you’re still talking about 1v1, then you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.


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Posted by: style.6173

style.6173

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

You must be new to the game. Welcome. Rangers were considered OP not too long ago in PvP. They had a spirit build that was easy mode.

Please stop repeating that rangers were underpowered for 2 years because it isn’t true.

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Posted by: Daishi.6027

Daishi.6027

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

You must be new to the game. Welcome. Rangers were considered OP not too long ago in PvP. They had a spirit build that was easy mode.

Please stop repeating that rangers were underpowered for 2 years because it isn’t true.

To be fair, no one. Not even rangers want to remember that stupidity. I think they disown it as part of their own class.

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“Maybe I was the illusion all along!”

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Posted by: Zenos Osgorma.2936

Zenos Osgorma.2936

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

You must be new to the game. Welcome. Rangers were considered OP not too long ago in PvP. They had a spirit build that was easy mode.

Please stop repeating that rangers were underpowered for 2 years because it isn’t true.

To be fair, no one. Not even rangers want to remember that stupidity. I think they disown it as part of their own class.

Tried it once Never again..

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Posted by: Solori.6025

Solori.6025

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

The players that wiped the floor with you for 2 years now will not stay on their underpowered classes. I for one shelved my thief and switched to ranger, and I keep wrecking the same terribad ranger players as before. Nothing will change, you will just be beaten by your own class.

Where you one of the S/D thieves that stopped playing?


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Posted by: Xae Isareth.1364

Xae Isareth.1364

…..and how does this help balancing?

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Posted by: Necrotize.2974

Necrotize.2974

Thief must be building up some major karma from all the little nerfs and now the broken steal/shadowstep mechanic. But ya, by this logic, every year or so Anet should just turn the classes upside down, making every build that was remotely good incredibly weak and every build that was useless incredibly strong.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

I don’t believe in Karma.

But I haven’t cried either so I guess I’m good.

This is that new sound. Ya’ll ain’t ready.

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Posted by: Daishi.6027

Daishi.6027

Thief must be building up some major karma from all the little nerfs and now the broken steal/shadowstep mechanic. But ya, by this logic, every year or so Anet should just turn the classes upside down, making every build that was remotely good incredibly weak and every build that was useless incredibly strong.

If we are pretending Karma has any influence on balance then I’d say S/D alone put thieves in the negitive.

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Posted by: MarauderShields.6830

MarauderShields.6830

Where you one of the S/D thieves that stopped playing?

Nope. Played D/D since release. Loved and still do but it cannot compete with the myriad of cheese builds out there. So I switched to PewPew Overlord.

Rapidfire is Love.
Rapidfire is Life.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Where you one of the S/D thieves that stopped playing?

Nope. Played D/D since release. Loved and still do but it cannot compete with the myriad of cheese builds out there. So I switched to PewPew Overlord.

Rapidfire is Love.
Rapidfire is Life.

DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.

Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).

For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.

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Posted by: Xae Isareth.1364

Xae Isareth.1364

Where you one of the S/D thieves that stopped playing?

Nope. Played D/D since release. Loved and still do but it cannot compete with the myriad of cheese builds out there. So I switched to PewPew Overlord.

Rapidfire is Love.
Rapidfire is Life.

DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.

Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).

For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.

Why don’t you just roll and negate the whole thing and much more reliably?

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Posted by: rlhaas.5723

rlhaas.5723

Well I’ve been cursing out Rangers since the patch, but I’m noob so I know it’s just me being bad.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

Where you one of the S/D thieves that stopped playing?

Nope. Played D/D since release. Loved and still do but it cannot compete with the myriad of cheese builds out there. So I switched to PewPew Overlord.

Rapidfire is Love.
Rapidfire is Life.

DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.

Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).

For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.

Why don’t you just roll and negate the whole thing and much more reliably?

save the dodges for potential maul/someone else intervening

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

MightyMicah.7451

Well I’ve been cursing out Rangers since the patch, but I’m noob so I know it’s just me being bad.

Well I wouldn’t encourage cursing, but don’t feel too bad. It’s a whole new strategy that we are learning to deal with. I’ve raged a few times myself

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Posted by: MarauderShields.6830

MarauderShields.6830

DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.

Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).

For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.

Daggerstorm really works only against bad players. Otherwise, you give free seconds of cooldown away if casted from range (that cancelled rapidfire is usable at the end again), or you are blocked and eat a maul and tons of other melee dmg during the cast. Wasting all your initiative for a bad evade is also not very wise. Smokescreen is difficult to build in a d/d build as well.
There was only one d/d thief that got me during the last days, he shadowstepped on top of a roof and I was too busy rofl-ing about that. Ironically, I find the classic hammer warrior rather hard, a build that doesn’t give me any trouble on thief.

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Posted by: Prysin.8542

Prysin.8542

DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.

Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).

For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.

Daggerstorm really works only against bad players. Otherwise, you give free seconds of cooldown away if casted from range (that cancelled rapidfire is usable at the end again), or you are blocked and eat a maul and tons of other melee dmg during the cast. Wasting all your initiative for a bad evade is also not very wise. Smokescreen is difficult to build in a d/d build as well.
There was only one d/d thief that got me during the last days, he shadowstepped on top of a roof and I was too busy rofl-ing about that. Ironically, I find the classic hammer warrior rather hard, a build that doesn’t give me any trouble on thief.

hammer is easy depending on pet.
I suggest using Raven (blind) or Owl along with Signet of the Hunt.
Signet → F2 → watch bird deal 3-4k damage + blind/chill the enemy.
Secondary pet – Wolf (fear).

If you use that setup, you should be more then able to deal heavy damage. Also – unless running condi or tank, ALWAYS take Pets Prowess (+30% crit damage for pets) over any other skirmish adept. If slightly tank – Primal Reflexes. If condi – Sharpened Edges. If Condi w/pet burst – Companions Might.

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Posted by: Aeolus.3615

Aeolus.3615

Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation, still. Please continue to feast on the tears of the noobs while the people who don’t care about your pew pew continue to pick you off.

I lol’d. Rangers excel in 1v1. It’s anything higher than that they tend to lean towards useless in.

iv’e seen fights between thief vs ranger that were excellent fights, some players can telegraph thief movements and stealth in a very good way and with ranger evasion makes a very good combat.

1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

War was unpowered until Feb 2013. we started winning, people cried, we got nerfed right back to where we started, almost.

Its time for karma indeed.

#saturatedwithspite

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Posted by: RyuDragnier.9476

RyuDragnier.9476

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

War was unpowered until Feb 2013. we started winning, people cried, we got nerfed right back to where we started, almost.

Its time for karma indeed.

#saturatedwithspite

Difference is that Rangers didn’t become near unkillable with the buffs, like the Warriors did. If anything Ranger has gotten a slight survivability and offensive boost…because now Rangers don’t have to go 6 points into Marksmanship just to have signets effect themselves like everybody else can, and Rapid Fire actually goes quicker than the 5 second “free avoidance” window it had.

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

War was unpowered until Feb 2013. we started winning, people cried, we got nerfed right back to where we started, almost.

Its time for karma indeed.

#saturatedwithspite

Difference is that Rangers didn’t become near unkillable with the buffs, like the Warriors did. If anything Ranger has gotten a slight survivability and offensive boost…because now Rangers don’t have to go 6 points into Marksmanship just to have signets effect themselves like everybody else can, and Rapid Fire actually goes quicker than the 5 second “free avoidance” window it had.

being able to down a non reflective character before it can make its way to you sounds pretty unkillable to me. probably even more so than actively having to get close to a character to do significant damage at all.

How is this any better than evisc spam warrior, without simply arguing “but they were weak before!” Most people aren’t suggesting a rollback, just an adjustment.

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Posted by: Usagi.4835

Usagi.4835

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

Lol for those of us who play against JQ, this was ironic.

Commander Chocolate Teapot | Prettier than you | Forum damsel in distress

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Posted by: Azure The Heartless.3261

Azure The Heartless.3261

to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.

its called KARMA !

weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY

i love it when you cry.

please cry more

Lol for those of us who play against JQ, this was ironic.

Not ironic.

Humorous coincidence.

JQ is on the steamroll train though, not a bad world buff.

op, pls nerf

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Posted by: Artaz.3819

Artaz.3819

rangers ARE pretty much useless in 1v1 against any enemy that has a gap closer. They are much more deadly than before at sitting off points and pew pewing than before, that’s about all they got in terms of buffs. To say they “excel” in 1v1 is just not true at all. They don’t really excel in anything….except pew pew

Thanks for wasting your dodges on Rapid Fire. Now here comes the real pain from Greatsword Maul after I stealth with Hunter’s Shot that you should have dodged too.