to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.
its called KARMA !
weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY
i love it when you cry.
please cry more
Main: lvl 80 Ranger ,
Alt: lvl 80 Mesmer
Feast on the tears of the QQ’ers
80 Necro (5), 80 Guard (4), 80 Mesmer (3)
80 Ranger (3), 80 Warrior (3), 80 Thief (3)
80 Ele (2), 80 Engi (3), 80 Rev (2)
Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation
Lol, what? Do you even play the same game as everybody else?
It is not what you do, but how and why you do it that counts.
Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation, still. Please continue to feast on the tears of the noobs while the people who don’t care about your pew pew continue to pick you off.
k, keep believing that. Makes it just that much easier to rek you.
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation, still. Please continue to feast on the tears of the noobs while the people who don’t care about your pew pew continue to pick you off.
I lol’d. Rangers excel in 1v1. It’s anything higher than that they tend to lean towards useless in.
[hS]
PvE Main – Zar Poisonclaw – Daredevil
WvW Main – Ghost Mistcaller – Herald
Meanwhile I’m avoiding 90% of the faster Rapid Fire with one dodge then easily slaughtering the Ranger when I get up close.
Gnome Child [Gc]
Resident Thief
rangers ARE pretty much useless in 1v1 against any enemy that has a gap closer. They are much more deadly than before at sitting off points and pew pewing than before, that’s about all they got in terms of buffs. To say they “excel” in 1v1 is just not true at all. They don’t really excel in anything….except pew pew
longbow nabs perhaps, try fight a condition bunker or BM spec. Please return here when you can “faceroll” those setups ONE VERSUS ONE. And not FIVE VERSUS ONE.
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.
its called KARMA !
weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY
i love it when you cry.
please cry more
The players that wiped the floor with you for 2 years now will not stay on their underpowered classes. I for one shelved my thief and switched to ranger, and I keep wrecking the same terribad ranger players as before. Nothing will change, you will just be beaten by your own class.
Former running-really-fast-man. Now proud member of Revenant clan.
true, but I thought we were talking about rapid fire rangers. Condi is pretty strong (I don’t rate it as much as you do though) and BM I just find more of a nuisance than particularly amazing at 1v1.
“rapid fire” rangers isn’t even a proper build. It’s scrubs hopping on the class using a LB and throwing all their utilities towards one attack. Of course that won’t excel at 1v1, but if you think that’s all rangers have to offer than you need to get yourself better acquainted with the class.
It is not what you do, but how and why you do it that counts.
I don’t get the moaning. Glass ranger is actually fair.
I’ve hated rangers for the longest time, all the “Good” rangers were supporting teams via passives that gave birth to our petting zoo/hambow meta. Then the dirtiest of no risk sustain even beyond levels of PU mesmers was that of BM rangers and that was at least viable on point.
But a ranger that can actually do damage and can actually die instead of a “dearp de kitten watch me force off point while I fall asleep at my keyboard.” Its great! Rangers got the love they deserved and actually requires proper play and has good counter play. There MAY be a few things to look at being relatively new (like a proper animation for point blank shot and perhaps a slightly longer c/d) but at least the build is relatively fair.
It only takes one game of 5 rangers sniping and destroying your team for you to learn how to out play each one, till you can 2v1 depending on build and class.
“I control time and space; you can’t break free.~”
“Maybe I was the illusion all along!”
true, but I thought we were talking about rapid fire rangers. Condi is pretty strong (I don’t rate it as much as you do though) and BM I just find more of a nuisance than particularly amazing at 1v1.
“rapid fire” rangers isn’t even a proper build. It’s scrubs hopping on the class using a LB and throwing all their utilities towards one attack. Of course that won’t excel at 1v1, but if you think that’s all rangers have to offer than you need to get yourself better acquainted with the class.
Rangers are still bad bro
If you’re still talking about 1v1, then you have absolutely no idea what you’re talking about.
It is not what you do, but how and why you do it that counts.
to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.
its called KARMA !
weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY
i love it when you cry.
please cry more
You must be new to the game. Welcome. Rangers were considered OP not too long ago in PvP. They had a spirit build that was easy mode.
Please stop repeating that rangers were underpowered for 2 years because it isn’t true.
To be fair, no one. Not even rangers want to remember that stupidity. I think they disown it as part of their own class.
“I control time and space; you can’t break free.~”
“Maybe I was the illusion all along!”
Thief must be building up some major karma from all the little nerfs and now the broken steal/shadowstep mechanic. But ya, by this logic, every year or so Anet should just turn the classes upside down, making every build that was remotely good incredibly weak and every build that was useless incredibly strong.
If we are pretending Karma has any influence on balance then I’d say S/D alone put thieves in the negitive.
“I control time and space; you can’t break free.~”
“Maybe I was the illusion all along!”
Where you one of the S/D thieves that stopped playing?
Nope. Played D/D since release. Loved and still do but it cannot compete with the myriad of cheese builds out there. So I switched to PewPew Overlord.
Rapidfire is Love.
Rapidfire is Life.
Former running-really-fast-man. Now proud member of Revenant clan.
Where you one of the S/D thieves that stopped playing?
Nope. Played D/D since release. Loved and still do but it cannot compete with the myriad of cheese builds out there. So I switched to PewPew Overlord.
Rapidfire is Love.
Rapidfire is Life.
DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.
Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).
For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
Where you one of the S/D thieves that stopped playing?
Nope. Played D/D since release. Loved and still do but it cannot compete with the myriad of cheese builds out there. So I switched to PewPew Overlord.
Rapidfire is Love.
Rapidfire is Life.
DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.
Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).
For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.
Why don’t you just roll and negate the whole thing and much more reliably?
save the dodges for potential maul/someone else intervening
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.
Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).
For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.
Daggerstorm really works only against bad players. Otherwise, you give free seconds of cooldown away if casted from range (that cancelled rapidfire is usable at the end again), or you are blocked and eat a maul and tons of other melee dmg during the cast. Wasting all your initiative for a bad evade is also not very wise. Smokescreen is difficult to build in a d/d build as well.
There was only one d/d thief that got me during the last days, he shadowstepped on top of a roof and I was too busy rofl-ing about that. Ironically, I find the classic hammer warrior rather hard, a build that doesn’t give me any trouble on thief.
Former running-really-fast-man. Now proud member of Revenant clan.
DD thief got some good setups VS ranger.
Just using Dark Blossom when rapid fire is incoming and you negate 3/4 of it. Or daggerstorm (sure, not really DD, but still).
For thieves, slotting Smoke Screen will be “somewhat” mandatory. However smoke screen completely shuts down LB, regardless of range. It also allow you to leap throuh it for stealth, thus you can with ONE utility and ONE HS, completely shut down a ranger.
Daggerstorm really works only against bad players. Otherwise, you give free seconds of cooldown away if casted from range (that cancelled rapidfire is usable at the end again), or you are blocked and eat a maul and tons of other melee dmg during the cast. Wasting all your initiative for a bad evade is also not very wise. Smokescreen is difficult to build in a d/d build as well.
There was only one d/d thief that got me during the last days, he shadowstepped on top of a roof and I was too busy rofl-ing about that. Ironically, I find the classic hammer warrior rather hard, a build that doesn’t give me any trouble on thief.
hammer is easy depending on pet.
I suggest using Raven (blind) or Owl along with Signet of the Hunt.
Signet → F2 → watch bird deal 3-4k damage + blind/chill the enemy.
Secondary pet – Wolf (fear).
If you use that setup, you should be more then able to deal heavy damage. Also – unless running condi or tank, ALWAYS take Pets Prowess (+30% crit damage for pets) over any other skirmish adept. If slightly tank – Primal Reflexes. If condi – Sharpened Edges. If Condi w/pet burst – Companions Might.
Lv 80 Guard, Ranger, Ele, Thief, warr, engi
Currently @ some T1 server in EU
Rangers are useless in a 1v1 situation, still. Please continue to feast on the tears of the noobs while the people who don’t care about your pew pew continue to pick you off.
I lol’d. Rangers excel in 1v1. It’s anything higher than that they tend to lean towards useless in.
iv’e seen fights between thief vs ranger that were excellent fights, some players can telegraph thief movements and stealth in a very good way and with ranger evasion makes a very good combat.
1st April joke, when gw2 receives a “balance” update.
to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.
its called KARMA !
weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY
i love it when you cry.
please cry more
War was unpowered until Feb 2013. we started winning, people cried, we got nerfed right back to where we started, almost.
Its time for karma indeed.
#saturatedwithspite
Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.
to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.
its called KARMA !
weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY
i love it when you cry.
please cry more
War was unpowered until Feb 2013. we started winning, people cried, we got nerfed right back to where we started, almost.
Its time for karma indeed.
#saturatedwithspite
Difference is that Rangers didn’t become near unkillable with the buffs, like the Warriors did. If anything Ranger has gotten a slight survivability and offensive boost…because now Rangers don’t have to go 6 points into Marksmanship just to have signets effect themselves like everybody else can, and Rapid Fire actually goes quicker than the 5 second “free avoidance” window it had.
[hS]
PvE Main – Zar Poisonclaw – Daredevil
WvW Main – Ghost Mistcaller – Herald
to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.
its called KARMA !
weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY
i love it when you cry.
please cry more
War was unpowered until Feb 2013. we started winning, people cried, we got nerfed right back to where we started, almost.
Its time for karma indeed.
#saturatedwithspite
Difference is that Rangers didn’t become near unkillable with the buffs, like the Warriors did. If anything Ranger has gotten a slight survivability and offensive boost…because now Rangers don’t have to go 6 points into Marksmanship just to have signets effect themselves like everybody else can, and Rapid Fire actually goes quicker than the 5 second “free avoidance” window it had.
being able to down a non reflective character before it can make its way to you sounds pretty unkillable to me. probably even more so than actively having to get close to a character to do significant damage at all.
How is this any better than evisc spam warrior, without simply arguing “but they were weak before!” Most people aren’t suggesting a rollback, just an adjustment.
Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.
to all those people moaning about rangers and Rapid fire.
its called KARMA !
weve been unpowered for 2 years. and now we beat you… you all CRY
i love it when you cry.
please cry more
Lol for those of us who play against JQ, this was ironic.
Not ironic.
Humorous coincidence.
JQ is on the steamroll train though, not a bad world buff.
op, pls nerf
Resident Disgruntled, Coffee-drinking Charr.
Zarin Mistcloak(THF) Valkyrie Mistblade(WAR) Kossori Mistwalker(REV) Durendal Mistward(GRD)
I used to think (build op, pls nerf) like you, but then I took a nerf to the knee.
