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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

Hey guys, so lately I have just been wondering around the forums until I found this thread: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Siphoned-Power/first#post4229829

Everyone on that thread thought it only gives ONE stack, but it doesn’t… it gives Y stacks dependent upon Y hits.

The trait is explained in a lot more detail here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z66E6vYR7EY = also explains when/how to use and how much it affects…

Tip: use it while in DS… yes, it also works in DS.

Did this change your opinion on the trait? its very easy to stack might with and will definitely improve your DPS by quite a bit…

Lemme know what you think… (on the trait and the vid :p)

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I also posted it here, because some people have necro alts but don’t check the necro forum (where i posted it first)
IMO its the most misunderstood trait all due to arena net’s HORRIBLE tool tips which are sometimes completely wrong…

I hope I cleared some stuff up and that people now understand what it really does.
(It still is underwhelming, however)

The trait in wiki: http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Siphoned_Power

-Hollts

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

Linked the wrong vid… fixed it

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Posted by: Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Deimos Tel Arin.7391

Gain might when your health falls below the threshold.
Health threshold: 25%
Might: 5 s

5 s is way too short though.
should be at least 10 s or even 15 s

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Posted by: zapv.8051

zapv.8051

It’s a terrible trait. Most people know it gives more than one stack but it is still terrible. That’s because the last thing you need when at low health is more damage. Furthermore, your not going to realistically get more than 5 stacks unless multiple people are hitting you in which case you are dead anyway. Furthermore, if you save up death shroud to use this trait to its max effectiveness your not using death shroud properly. It is one of the worst traits in the game and what you posted changes none of that.

Necros don’t have reflects, invulns, vigor, blocks,
extra dodges, real stability, mobility skills,
burst skills, sustain, or good support. GG ANET.

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

It’s a terrible trait. Most people know it gives more than one stack but it is still terrible. That’s because the last thing you need when at low health is more damage. Furthermore, your not going to realistically get more than 5 stacks unless multiple people are hitting you in which case you are dead anyway. Furthermore, if you save up death shroud to use this trait to its max effectiveness your not using death shroud properly. It is one of the worst traits in the game and what you posted changes none of that.

Most people know? Really? The community claims to know a lot of things but you’d be surprised if you read something like this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Siphoned-Power/first#post4229829

Also, I never said that this trait was good/bad, I simply stated how it works and how to maximize its effect.

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Posted by: BrunoBRS.5178

BrunoBRS.5178

Also, I never said that this trait was good/bad, I simply stated how it works and how to maximize its effect.

did you read the title of your own thread?

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Posted by: zapv.8051

zapv.8051

It’s a terrible trait. Most people know it gives more than one stack but it is still terrible. That’s because the last thing you need when at low health is more damage. Furthermore, your not going to realistically get more than 5 stacks unless multiple people are hitting you in which case you are dead anyway. Furthermore, if you save up death shroud to use this trait to its max effectiveness your not using death shroud properly. It is one of the worst traits in the game and what you posted changes none of that.

Most people know? Really? The community claims to know a lot of things but you’d be surprised if you read something like this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Siphoned-Power/first#post4229829

Also, I never said that this trait was good/bad, I simply stated how it works and how to maximize its effect.

I read that thread, at most 3 people didn’t understand the trait fully. Reread it yourself and you’ll see most people know exactly what the trait does. Also, I understand what you did. I explained why what you said doesn’t justify how bad the trait is. Maximizing this traits effect is a death sentence. Also, you stated your opinion at the top the traits is good. That isn’t even remotely true as I explained.

Necros don’t have reflects, invulns, vigor, blocks,
extra dodges, real stability, mobility skills,
burst skills, sustain, or good support. GG ANET.

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Posted by: Holl.3109

Holl.3109

It’s a terrible trait. Most people know it gives more than one stack but it is still terrible. That’s because the last thing you need when at low health is more damage. Furthermore, your not going to realistically get more than 5 stacks unless multiple people are hitting you in which case you are dead anyway. Furthermore, if you save up death shroud to use this trait to its max effectiveness your not using death shroud properly. It is one of the worst traits in the game and what you posted changes none of that.

Most people know? Really? The community claims to know a lot of things but you’d be surprised if you read something like this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Siphoned-Power/first#post4229829

Also, I never said that this trait was good/bad, I simply stated how it works and how to maximize its effect.

I read that thread, at most 3 people didn’t understand the trait fully. Reread it yourself and you’ll see most people know exactly what the trait does. Also, I understand what you did. I explained why what you said doesn’t justify how bad the trait is. Maximizing this traits effect is a death sentence. Also, you stated your opinion at the top the traits is good. That isn’t even remotely true as I explained.

Most people didn’t get, no one corrected the guy who made the thread or said “that is not how it works”. Also, I said HOW to maximize the effect of this trait (below 25%, In full DS, against fast hitting target) not that you SHOULD. And didn’t you see the question mark? …good? = as in stating with the right things could be usefull to some extent. But yes, it’s a horrible trait, (but again) I was merely showing how it work because
It is misunderstood.

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Posted by: oxtred.7658

oxtred.7658

Problem is you won’t be full DS at 25% health. That’s what people are saying. The only form of damage mitigation excluding spectral armor for necros is death shroud. Having a full bar under 25% health is a matter of inexperience. And even if you do, and if for whatever reason you do get 25 might stacks, your low health and the diminushing of your ds ressource makes you vulnerable.

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Posted by: zapv.8051

zapv.8051

It’s a terrible trait. Most people know it gives more than one stack but it is still terrible. That’s because the last thing you need when at low health is more damage. Furthermore, your not going to realistically get more than 5 stacks unless multiple people are hitting you in which case you are dead anyway. Furthermore, if you save up death shroud to use this trait to its max effectiveness your not using death shroud properly. It is one of the worst traits in the game and what you posted changes none of that.

Most people know? Really? The community claims to know a lot of things but you’d be surprised if you read something like this: https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/necromancer/Siphoned-Power/first#post4229829

Also, I never said that this trait was good/bad, I simply stated how it works and how to maximize its effect.

I read that thread, at most 3 people didn’t understand the trait fully. Reread it yourself and you’ll see most people know exactly what the trait does. Also, I understand what you did. I explained why what you said doesn’t justify how bad the trait is. Maximizing this traits effect is a death sentence. Also, you stated your opinion at the top the traits is good. That isn’t even remotely true as I explained.

Most people didn’t get, no one corrected the guy who made the thread or said “that is not how it works”. Also, I said HOW to maximize the effect of this trait (below 25%, In full DS, against fast hitting target) not that you SHOULD. And didn’t you see the question mark? …good? = as in stating with the right things could be usefull to some extent. But yes, it’s a horrible trait, (but again) I was merely showing how it work because
It is misunderstood.

I can tell you for certain that people in that thread like spoj, bhawb, and Dranor definitely know how that trait works. The issue is not understanding it’s that the the trait is terrible. It isn’t nearly as misunderstood as you think, but I guess it’s fine for the very few people who don’t understand.

Necros don’t have reflects, invulns, vigor, blocks,
extra dodges, real stability, mobility skills,
burst skills, sustain, or good support. GG ANET.

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Posted by: Bhawb.7408

Bhawb.7408

Its a bad trait. It requires you to be hit multiple times while very low HP on a profession with already bad might stacking (except in a single build). It is entirely meaningless in PvE where you want to maintain 90%+ HP, fairly meaningless in WvW since you shouldn’t be getting that low, and in PvP a sudden spike of might isn’t at all going to change anything. Its not like you’re going to be in a fight, and bait it out with full LF and the second you hit low HP you’re like “haha, gotcha now, eat ALL THE DAMAGE”; because in reality you’ll do it, maybe deal a bit of extra damage, and die all the same.

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Posted by: Seiishizo.7162

Seiishizo.7162

still useless trait, by the time it becames use full you will prolly die in a couple of hits. so you only get a couple of might before going into downstate. yay

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Posted by: coglin.1867

coglin.1867

It doesn’t seem productive to a low hit point threshold trait, to have an offensive boon trigger. To me, it would be much more logical to have a defensive boon trigger.

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Posted by: Rym.1469

Rym.1469

If it was at 66-50% health with little ICD and giving more mightstacks per ICD for longer, that would be good.

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Posted by: Anymras.5729

Anymras.5729

Its a bad trait. It requires you to be hit multiple times while very low HP on a profession with already bad might stacking (except in a single build). It is entirely meaningless in PvE where you want to maintain 90%+ HP, fairly meaningless in WvW since you shouldn’t be getting that low, and in PvP a sudden spike of might isn’t at all going to change anything. Its not like you’re going to be in a fight, and bait it out with full LF and the second you hit low HP you’re like “haha, gotcha now, eat ALL THE DAMAGE”; because in reality you’ll do it, maybe deal a bit of extra damage, and die all the same.

I think this particular ‘synergy’ is supposed to be what they’re emphasizing with the ’don’t die, Death Shroud! and then die’ trait.