Guild Wars 2

I’m not a pro by any means but having played all professions for roughly equal amount of time, celestial ele alone is not OP. They become too good when they are allowed to use runes of strength. A full celestial ele from head to toe on a 0/2/0/6/6 build gets around 1500 power, its as strong as wet noodle. The problem is when might duration gets so high that they are able to stack to 25 stacks and the extra power stats that comes along with the runes, thats when ele get to have their cake and eat them too. You don’t see ppl crying over celestial ele with say traveler runes coz the might stacks gets to around 13 to 15 in an average fight (not focusing on might stacking while dodging stuff n killing).

Engineer on the other hand can get to around 1860 power and 800+ condi on a 4/0/4/4/2 build with full celestial alone, while not a common build with no other buffs or armor n trinket slots. Their attacks are slightly slower.

Just need a slight readjustment to runes of strength to either lower the power stats or decrease the might duration.

Without the Strength runes + Battle Sigil combo, D/D Celestial Eles do no damage what-so-ever…. soooo…. Does this help clarify the situation a bit?

fellyn.5083:

I’m getting deja vu. I guess the forum is done with warrior apart from heal sig.

One class nerfed into the ground, onto the next.

I wouldn’t say they are done. If they push for strength rune/cele amulet nerf they will also be taking the only things keeping warrior somewhat viable in PvP. I agree that D/D Ele is ridiculously strong against many build at the moment but they do have some good counters. A little shave (I said a shave Anet, not a swing of the hatchet) would put them back in line. You’ve overnerfed the kitten out of D/D ele once before, let’s not make the same mistakes again.

I have yet to lose a match against a D/D Ele on my warrior. I have yet to win against one on my guardian. I don’t know whether I should be QQing or defending them.

lol, Mesmer does not counter D/D Ele.

The issue is the celestial amulet. Nerf that and then take a look at individual classes.

Celestial elementalist is one of the most balanced classes in the game. All classes should be more like celestial elementalists.

New rule: From now on if someone wants to request a nerf, a video from the OP must be provided for analyzing by the community. So, Vids or it didn’t happen

Julie Yann.5379:

fellyn.5083:

I’m getting deja vu. I guess the forum is done with warrior apart from heal sig.

One class nerfed into the ground, onto the next.

I wouldn’t say they are done. If they push for strength rune/cele amulet nerf they will also be taking the only things keeping warrior somewhat viable in PvP. I agree that D/D Ele is ridiculously strong against many build at the moment but they do have some good counters. A little shave (I said a shave Anet, not a swing of the hatchet) would put them back in line. You’ve overnerfed the kitten out of D/D ele once before, let’s not make the same mistakes again.

Yeah well, as you said, anet balance team has all the finesse of a chainsaw, not a scalpel.

I don’t trust them to balance anything after how they butchered warriors adrenaline. Not that I trusted them before that either.

It isn’t just drakes breath that needs nerf, The sustain of eles needs to be looked at. No class should be able to heal from 10% to full constantly especially while having perma protection.

It’s only game breakingly op because most people are bad at this game. Get good please.
Mesmers, warriors, thieves and engineers can easily beat em.

nerf sustain and nerf dmg co effecient.

Warrior nerf is fine, don’t know where all the warrior nerf to garbo statement come from. D/D ele on the other hand is too good at everything, every top team wants em and everyone and their mother can play them bcuz of how stupidly easy and OP it is.

Duel servers are infested with d/d ele, top level teams are all infested with d/d eles, bunker guardian made useless bcuz of d/d ele. What more evidence do yo uneed?

Just a trend I’m seeing. A lot of thieves in particular seem to be calling for nerfs. Which makes sense since thieves are squishy as it is so ele+might will do a lot more damage to them than it would to say a warrior. Not to mention one of D/D ele’s weaknesses is that they have no range. At least on my engineer, that means if I can cripple/chill them after they leave water, then I can overcharge them back and deal some serious damage before they can regain their melee range on me. For thieves however, their burst is all done in melee range and eles have things like Shocking Aura, earthquake and Updraft which are specifically meant to stop melee burst.

If you’re initial burst is a ranged one, they’re gonna have to blow all their heal cds to recover before they get to you. Immob and chill are your friend as both of them almost require the ele to cleanse them. Chill screws up all of their rotations and immob keeps them out of melee range. One or both usually forces a cleanse.

i agree that cele ele is OP, but its the cele amulet that makes strong, it has everything that an ele need, if anet delete cele from the game it would be good, no more OP dd ele

Apothecary bunker ranger here (not BM spec before anyone calls cheese lol).
Only profession I play so I’d say I’m being quite objective here.

Just weighing in with my experiences on a wvw roaming basis – I don’t have problems whatsoever vs d/d eles, I’d say I win 90% of 1v1s with them in wvw, and the only times I have trouble are when I find ones who are specced with tons of condi removal and heals, though those fights almost always end up in a stalemate.

BlackBeard.2873:

Solori.6025:

The Game Slayer.7632:

Please nerf. Thank you.
From,
-a thief player

I’m leveling a second thief and I approve this message..

Also please nerf engi’s and medi guardians.

Mesmers are ok, please leave them how they are, right?

yea mesmer’s are the most balanced class.
Necro’s are in a really good place too.

Lifestealer.4910:

Warrior nerf is fine, don’t know where all the warrior nerf to garbo statement come from. D/D ele on the other hand is too good at everything, every top team wants em and everyone and their mother can play them bcuz of how stupidly easy and OP it is.

Duel servers are infested with d/d ele, top level teams are all infested with d/d eles, bunker guardian made useless bcuz of d/d ele. What more evidence do yo uneed?

That argument sounds suspiciously familiar. Also all your evidence isn’t really evidence at all, because real evidence is backed up by fact which you haven’t presented any, so yeah… And really? Duel servers? Good evidence you got there.

And warriors are garbage compared to what they were before. Because people like you always complained about how they were so amazingly good at everything yet in reality they were only good at some things.

But I digress, it’s easier to complain on a forum about how something is op instead of trying to adapt your gameplay and making yourself better.

and again ..
nerf might from 35 to 25.
nerf cele amulet

dont nerf the ele ..

bluberblasen.9684:

and again ..
nerf might from 35 to 25.
nerf cele amulet

dont nerf the ele ..

Yes lets nerf all other specs that also run this, how about we nerf eles without screwing other professions?

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

Warrior nerf is fine, don’t know where all the warrior nerf to garbo statement come from. D/D ele on the other hand is too good at everything, every top team wants em and everyone and their mother can play them bcuz of how stupidly easy and OP it is.

Duel servers are infested with d/d ele, top level teams are all infested with d/d eles, bunker guardian made useless bcuz of d/d ele. What more evidence do yo uneed?

That argument sounds suspiciously familiar. Also all your evidence isn’t really evidence at all, because real evidence is backed up by fact which you haven’t presented any, so yeah… And really? Duel servers? Good evidence you got there.

And warriors are garbage compared to what they were before. Because people like you always complained about how they were so amazingly good at everything yet in reality they were only good at some things.

But I digress, it’s easier to complain on a forum about how something is op instead of trying to adapt your gameplay and making yourself better.

warriors are only garbage in the hands of garbage players, all they did was raise the skill ceiling a bit on the class. Also if you actually read carefully i said they are rampant in duel servers while also outclassing bunker guardian, you know the class and spec that is designed for team support only. Is it that hard to understand?

A class that trumps all in 1v1, thats why everyone plays it in duel server while also having the best team support in the game. What weakness does it have again?… shatter mesmer?.. please, if i hear someone say that i probably die from laughter.

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

Warrior nerf is fine, don’t know where all the warrior nerf to garbo statement come from. D/D ele on the other hand is too good at everything, every top team wants em and everyone and their mother can play them bcuz of how stupidly easy and OP it is.

Duel servers are infested with d/d ele, top level teams are all infested with d/d eles, bunker guardian made useless bcuz of d/d ele. What more evidence do yo uneed?

That argument sounds suspiciously familiar. Also all your evidence isn’t really evidence at all, because real evidence is backed up by fact which you haven’t presented any, so yeah… And really? Duel servers? Good evidence you got there.

And warriors are garbage compared to what they were before. Because people like you always complained about how they were so amazingly good at everything yet in reality they were only good at some things.

But I digress, it’s easier to complain on a forum about how something is op instead of trying to adapt your gameplay and making yourself better.

warriors are only garbage in the hands of garbage players, all they did was raise the skill ceiling a bit on the class. Also if you actually read carefully i said they are rampant in duel servers while also outclassing bunker guardian, you know the class and spec that is designed for team support only. Is it that hard to understand?

A class that trumps all in 1v1, thats why everyone plays it in duel server while also having the best team support in the game. What weakness does it have again?… shatter mesmer?.. please, if i hear someone say that i probably die from laughter.

Your problem is that you think other people besides you care about duel servers. I’m not sure why you keep bringing them up. And you still haven’t shown any evidence to support your claims, either.

Lifestealer.4910:

bluberblasen.9684:

and again ..
nerf might from 35 to 25.
nerf cele amulet

dont nerf the ele ..

Yes lets nerf all other specs that also run this, how about we nerf eles without screwing other professions?

How about instead of nerfing eles we fix the shortcomings of other classes.

Meh ele is the strongest(not by much) but its not game breakly op. People could still choose other prof without gimping there team. Balanced is actually quite good that any prof is viable.

If we look at EU meta still heaps of teams running guard+mesmer+thief.

Also I have notice most of the threads crying about op ele and engi are created by players that main thief. So thier view is generally very bias.

Meh another thief complaining about same nonsense, move along nothing to see here.

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

Warrior nerf is fine, don’t know where all the warrior nerf to garbo statement come from. D/D ele on the other hand is too good at everything, every top team wants em and everyone and their mother can play them bcuz of how stupidly easy and OP it is.

Duel servers are infested with d/d ele, top level teams are all infested with d/d eles, bunker guardian made useless bcuz of d/d ele. What more evidence do yo uneed?

That argument sounds suspiciously familiar. Also all your evidence isn’t really evidence at all, because real evidence is backed up by fact which you haven’t presented any, so yeah… And really? Duel servers? Good evidence you got there.

And warriors are garbage compared to what they were before. Because people like you always complained about how they were so amazingly good at everything yet in reality they were only good at some things.

But I digress, it’s easier to complain on a forum about how something is op instead of trying to adapt your gameplay and making yourself better.

warriors are only garbage in the hands of garbage players, all they did was raise the skill ceiling a bit on the class. Also if you actually read carefully i said they are rampant in duel servers while also outclassing bunker guardian, you know the class and spec that is designed for team support only. Is it that hard to understand?

A class that trumps all in 1v1, thats why everyone plays it in duel server while also having the best team support in the game. What weakness does it have again?… shatter mesmer?.. please, if i hear someone say that i probably die from laughter.

Your problem is that you think other people besides you care about duel servers. I’m not sure why you keep bringing them up. And you still haven’t shown any evidence to support your claims, either.

All top NA team had subbed out bunker guardian for d/d ele not evident enough?.. i thought this was obvious.

inb4 hur dur that isn’t evidence

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

bluberblasen.9684:

and again ..
nerf might from 35 to 25.
nerf cele amulet

dont nerf the ele ..

Yes lets nerf all other specs that also run this, how about we nerf eles without screwing other professions?

How about instead of nerfing eles we fix the shortcomings of other classes.

or we can nerf eles while fixing the shortcomings of other classes.

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

bluberblasen.9684:

and again ..
nerf might from 35 to 25.
nerf cele amulet

dont nerf the ele ..

Yes lets nerf all other specs that also run this, how about we nerf eles without screwing other professions?

How about instead of nerfing eles we fix the shortcomings of other classes.

or we can nerf eles while fixing the shortcomings of other classes.

If we nerf ele, its going to become what ranger was before the update, under powered and under played. Also, staff ele works surprising well against d/d, especially when you use unsteady ground and gust wisely you can interrupt them when they use dragons breath or earthquake then burst with your fire.

Survivability is a must for the class due to hp scaling and sustaining, do not touch that. If they need a nerf on damage fine, but don’t fix what isn’t broken.

Thank you.

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

Warrior nerf is fine, don’t know where all the warrior nerf to garbo statement come from. D/D ele on the other hand is too good at everything, every top team wants em and everyone and their mother can play them bcuz of how stupidly easy and OP it is.

Duel servers are infested with d/d ele, top level teams are all infested with d/d eles, bunker guardian made useless bcuz of d/d ele. What more evidence do yo uneed?

That argument sounds suspiciously familiar. Also all your evidence isn’t really evidence at all, because real evidence is backed up by fact which you haven’t presented any, so yeah… And really? Duel servers? Good evidence you got there.

And warriors are garbage compared to what they were before. Because people like you always complained about how they were so amazingly good at everything yet in reality they were only good at some things.

But I digress, it’s easier to complain on a forum about how something is op instead of trying to adapt your gameplay and making yourself better.

warriors are only garbage in the hands of garbage players, all they did was raise the skill ceiling a bit on the class. Also if you actually read carefully i said they are rampant in duel servers while also outclassing bunker guardian, you know the class and spec that is designed for team support only. Is it that hard to understand?

A class that trumps all in 1v1, thats why everyone plays it in duel server while also having the best team support in the game. What weakness does it have again?… shatter mesmer?.. please, if i hear someone say that i probably die from laughter.

Your problem is that you think other people besides you care about duel servers. I’m not sure why you keep bringing them up. And you still haven’t shown any evidence to support your claims, either.

All top NA team had subbed out bunker guardian for d/d ele not evident enough?.. i thought this was obvious.

inb4 hur dur that isn’t evidence

Oh, right, cause guardians were op as well. A balanced class replacing a balanced class? Ok?

Lifestealer.4910:

It isn’t just drakes breath that needs nerf, The sustain of eles needs to be looked at. No class should be able to heal from 10% to full constantly especially while having perma protection.

Those are some seriously inflated b-sh$#ed numbers and statements. As if eles could even do precisely what you said, since when is that a problem? Guardians ACTUALLY can go from 10% to 100%.

Perma? Seriously? more like 40-50% when fully traited. Get it straight.

This topic has been dead for months. Leave it that way. Everything has been rebutted and clear answers have been given on how to fight eles.

The ele is the most nerfed class in this game. It’s only a pale shadow of what the class was once. One more nerf and I’m never touching mine again.

The Game Slayer.7632:

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

Warrior nerf is fine, don’t know where all the warrior nerf to garbo statement come from. D/D ele on the other hand is too good at everything, every top team wants em and everyone and their mother can play them bcuz of how stupidly easy and OP it is.

Duel servers are infested with d/d ele, top level teams are all infested with d/d eles, bunker guardian made useless bcuz of d/d ele. What more evidence do yo uneed?

That argument sounds suspiciously familiar. Also all your evidence isn’t really evidence at all, because real evidence is backed up by fact which you haven’t presented any, so yeah… And really? Duel servers? Good evidence you got there.

And warriors are garbage compared to what they were before. Because people like you always complained about how they were so amazingly good at everything yet in reality they were only good at some things.

But I digress, it’s easier to complain on a forum about how something is op instead of trying to adapt your gameplay and making yourself better.

warriors are only garbage in the hands of garbage players, all they did was raise the skill ceiling a bit on the class. Also if you actually read carefully i said they are rampant in duel servers while also outclassing bunker guardian, you know the class and spec that is designed for team support only. Is it that hard to understand?

A class that trumps all in 1v1, thats why everyone plays it in duel server while also having the best team support in the game. What weakness does it have again?… shatter mesmer?.. please, if i hear someone say that i probably die from laughter.

Your problem is that you think other people besides you care about duel servers. I’m not sure why you keep bringing them up. And you still haven’t shown any evidence to support your claims, either.

All top NA team had subbed out bunker guardian for d/d ele not evident enough?.. i thought this was obvious.

inb4 hur dur that isn’t evidence

Oh, right, cause guardians were op as well. A balanced class replacing a balanced class? Ok?

It takes a class that is stronger than “balanced” to replace a balanced class within the same role or else why even replace it.

Do you even know balance bro?

vincecontix.1264:

Meh ele is the strongest(not by much) but its not game breakly op. People could still choose other prof without gimping there team. Balanced is actually quite good that any prof is viable.

If we look at EU meta still heaps of teams running guard+mesmer+thief.

Also I have notice most of the threads crying about op ele and engi are created by players that main thief. So thier view is generally very bias.

EU meta is far behind NA meta atm

Xillllix.3485:

The ele is the most nerfed class in this game. It’s only a pale shadow of what the class was once. One more nerf and I’m never touching mine again.

Because old d/d ele was most OP class in game. Only one who was able to engage 5 people and being able to actually kill them, or easily escape if everything goes wrong.

I don’t PvP much but to defend the elementalist:

apart of PvP nobody runs full celestial elementalis. In PvE you either go for full zerk or zerk+celestial. In wvw… same but sometimes knight-soldier+celestial. Full celestial is IMHO not viable anywhere else but in PvP where you cannot mix gear. You have no choice.

Full celestial elementalist basically does not exists outside of the PvP (yeah I know some of you runs them but it’s still not common and FAR from OP).
D/D ele by itself is not OP by any means. So it must be the PvP Celestial amulett, strength runes and the insane might stacking … as mentioned above….

Just my two cents….

Aggrostemma.1703:

I don’t PvP much but to defend the elementalist:

apart of PvP nobody runs full celestial elementalis. In PvE you either go for full zerk or zerk+celestial. In wvw… same but sometimes knight-soldier+celestial. Full celestial is IMHO not viable anywhere else but in PvP where you cannot mix gear. You have no choice.

Full celestial elementalist basically does not exists outside of the PvP (yeah I know some of you runs them but it’s still not common and FAR from OP).
D/D ele by itself is not OP by any means. So it must be the PvP Celestial amulett, strength runes and the insane might stacking … as mentioned above….

Just my two cents….

i dont pve much but i thnk its fair to say no one cares about pve and wvw here

Booms.2594:

vincecontix.1264:

Meh ele is the strongest(not by much) but its not game breakly op. People could still choose other prof without gimping there team. Balanced is actually quite good that any prof is viable.

If we look at EU meta still heaps of teams running guard+mesmer+thief.

Also I have notice most of the threads crying about op ele and engi are created by players that main thief. So thier view is generally very bias.

EU meta is far behind NA meta atm

So are you saying NA teams are stronger than EU?

vincecontix.1264:

Booms.2594:

vincecontix.1264:

Meh ele is the strongest(not by much) but its not game breakly op. People could still choose other prof without gimping there team. Balanced is actually quite good that any prof is viable.

If we look at EU meta still heaps of teams running guard+mesmer+thief.

Also I have notice most of the threads crying about op ele and engi are created by players that main thief. So thier view is generally very bias.

EU meta is far behind NA meta atm

So are you saying NA teams are stronger than EU?

#shotsfired

Booms.2594:

Aggrostemma.1703:

I don’t PvP much but to defend the elementalist:

apart of PvP nobody runs full celestial elementalis. In PvE you either go for full zerk or zerk+celestial. In wvw… same but sometimes knight-soldier+celestial. Full celestial is IMHO not viable anywhere else but in PvP where you cannot mix gear. You have no choice.

Full celestial elementalist basically does not exists outside of the PvP (yeah I know some of you runs them but it’s still not common and FAR from OP).
D/D ele by itself is not OP by any means. So it must be the PvP Celestial amulett, strength runes and the insane might stacking … as mentioned above….

Just my two cents….

i dont pve much but i thnk its fair to say no one cares about pve and wvw here

If they care about pvp they"ll stop with this thread and alike, go to spvp forums and ask for new modes so the counters to cele builds and turret engi can be viable/not countered by conquest and everyone should know that cele and turret are strong because of conquest.

Never take anyone seriously on those types of thread if they don’t say that new pvp modes are the solution.

Elitist.8701:

DD ele is quite possibly the most OP spec the game has seen yet again. The devs really need to understand that we cant go another 6 months until a nerf, we need nerfs now. DD ele is god tier 1v1, god tier 2v2, and A tier teamfighter. Its incredibly annoying to fight on any class, and works too well in every situation. I personally think we need a revert on water 3 change, a nerf to cele ammy, and a universal 10% decrease on signet of resto (universal meaning PvP and WvW). Also the trait that grants eles perma vigor is too OP, increase ICD to 7 seconds ao its still better than the minors that guard and mes have.

So my point is still valid… You want to nerf the ele because of PvP. In wvw the ele is not op… it can be in PvP I don’t really know it’s not my main. If a prof is balanced in every aspect of the game apart of one then there must be something wrong in the given aspect and not in the whole game.

Booms.2594:

Aggrostemma.1703:

I don’t PvP much but to defend the elementalist:

apart of PvP nobody runs full celestial elementalis. In PvE you either go for full zerk or zerk+celestial. In wvw… same but sometimes knight-soldier+celestial. Full celestial is IMHO not viable anywhere else but in PvP where you cannot mix gear. You have no choice.

Full celestial elementalist basically does not exists outside of the PvP (yeah I know some of you runs them but it’s still not common and FAR from OP).
D/D ele by itself is not OP by any means. So it must be the PvP Celestial amulett, strength runes and the insane might stacking … as mentioned above….

Just my two cents….

i dont pve much but i thnk its fair to say no one cares about pve and wvw here

Im quite positive that this is the profession balance forum, and not the sPvP forum.

Even if you are in sPvP forum, until anet one day decides to stop stubbornly sticking by their ridiculous agenda of trying to balance all 3 game modes under the same broken umbrella, you are forced to care, because any changes will affect all 3 game modes.

Lifestealer.4910:

The Game Slayer.7632:

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

fellyn.5083:

Lifestealer.4910:

Warrior nerf is fine, don’t know where all the warrior nerf to garbo statement come from. D/D ele on the other hand is too good at everything, every top team wants em and everyone and their mother can play them bcuz of how stupidly easy and OP it is.

Duel servers are infested with d/d ele, top level teams are all infested with d/d eles, bunker guardian made useless bcuz of d/d ele. What more evidence do yo uneed?

That argument sounds suspiciously familiar. Also all your evidence isn’t really evidence at all, because real evidence is backed up by fact which you haven’t presented any, so yeah… And really? Duel servers? Good evidence you got there.

And warriors are garbage compared to what they were before. Because people like you always complained about how they were so amazingly good at everything yet in reality they were only good at some things.

But I digress, it’s easier to complain on a forum about how something is op instead of trying to adapt your gameplay and making yourself better.

warriors are only garbage in the hands of garbage players, all they did was raise the skill ceiling a bit on the class. Also if you actually read carefully i said they are rampant in duel servers while also outclassing bunker guardian, you know the class and spec that is designed for team support only. Is it that hard to understand?

A class that trumps all in 1v1, thats why everyone plays it in duel server while also having the best team support in the game. What weakness does it have again?… shatter mesmer?.. please, if i hear someone say that i probably die from laughter.

Your problem is that you think other people besides you care about duel servers. I’m not sure why you keep bringing them up. And you still haven’t shown any evidence to support your claims, either.

All top NA team had subbed out bunker guardian for d/d ele not evident enough?.. i thought this was obvious.

inb4 hur dur that isn’t evidence

Oh, right, cause guardians were op as well. A balanced class replacing a balanced class? Ok?

It takes a class that is stronger than “balanced” to replace a balanced class within the same role or else why even replace it.

Do you even know balance bro?

You blindly disregard the very real possibility that guardian might not be balanced.
Every team no matter what needs a guard? Is that balanced?
Do you even know balance bro?

Nice necro mate… But it clarifies the situation well…

The D/D ele isn’t strong by itself… it’s the bloody sigil and the rune what makes it powerful in PvP ONLY…

Anyway… what about the OP Bearbow rangers? Do you manage them?

To prove my point, the other day I decided to become god mode and so I dusted off my ele. I went into the KOTH arena and won every one of my 1v1s for a good 15-16 rounds straight until finally Booms beat me with CELE engi.

#Balanced

Only a few week ago my ranger was OP as hell and I really enjoyed smashing faces with my trusty “Teddy” pet and with my ever-strung OP longbow…

But all the sudden something called Deedee celementalist is mopping the floor with everybody….

I wanna be OP again so please nerf cele-ele-mental-ist ( my daddy told me this is how you spell it…).

Please Anet listen to me I know this game since years. I can handle 2-3 Deedee celementalists easily but they are OP… I want my OP rapid fire back!!!!

If you don’t give my ranger OPness back I promise I will send my bear into the water!!!!

And I’m not kidding now… I’m serious!

Elitist.8701:

To prove my point, the other day I decided to become god mode and so I dusted off my ele. I went into the KOTH arena and won every one of my 1v1s for a good 15-16 rounds straight until finally Booms beat me with CELE engi.

#Balanced

You tell me a plan on how to nerf d/d in sPvP without affecting WvW and PvE at all.

Nooooooo!! Not Mr. Bear he never learned to swim!

Xae Isareth.1364:

Elitist.8701:

To prove my point, the other day I decided to become god mode and so I dusted off my ele. I went into the KOTH arena and won every one of my 1v1s for a good 15-16 rounds straight until finally Booms beat me with CELE engi.

#Balanced

You tell me a plan on how to nerf d/d in sPvP without affecting WvW and PvE at all.

Just add new pvp modes. Simple and efficient.