Guild Wars 2

is this going to happen ever?

Seriously, this along with buffing bad traits and skills should be number one priority right now.

I think just making more existent weapons available would be a good easy initial pass. My take would be:

• Elementalist: Warhorn
• Engineer: MH Mace
• Mesmer: MH Pistol
• Necromancer: Torch
• Guardian: OH Dagger (used as a casting focus only)
• Ranger: Rifle
• Thief: Rifle as a 1200 range option
• Warrior: Making it difficult. OH Dagger used as a throwing dagger, IMO.

They said they were working [the opposite of soft] on making every weapon available to every class…

…something like a year ago.

Edit for de-Kittening.

Hey, thank you all for giving your inputs on the subject! We would like you to know that we like the idea, have discussed it, and that it is being worked on. It is surely on the horizon and should be implemented sooooooooooon™

Meanwhile I think the Management team really does not want this game to change any time soon™ with new weapons and utilities – imagine if you are new to the game, and suddenly Necromancers get a 5-target melee cleave weapon! Way too confusing!

Wait, the kitten-filter prefers [furry little animal] over [opposite of soft]? Heh.

I think it’s much more likely that Anet allows classes to use more pre-existing weapons before they introduce a couple brand new ones, but honestly they should do both.

This is a list of the existing weapons I think professions should already be able to use, plus new weapons

Elementalist: Axe (MH/OH), Torch
Engineer: Mace, Crossbow (new)
Guardian: Warhorn, Battleaxe (new), Javelin (new)
Mesmer: Warhorn, Javelin (new)
Necromancer: Axe (OH), Torch
Ranger: Rifle, Javelin (new), Crossbow (new)
Thief: Axe (MH/OH), Crossbow (new)
Warrior: Battleaxe (new), Javelin (new)

And, just for fun, here’s some weapons that I think SHOULD NOT be available on certain classes because I don’t think they fit with the image of the class:

Mesmer: Pistol
Ranger: Greatsword
Warrior: Rifle

We haven’t even gotten to the point where each weapon for each class is viable. Let alone traits, or even classes overall! Without a balanced product we’ll see some classes getting new weapons to expand their gameplay while others get weapons merely to fill in holes out of laziness.

The only way new weapons would be justified at this point were if they dramatically changed the way classes played.

Ranger getting a staff to turn it more into a Druid. A Thief getting a Scepter to turn it into a Dark Magic user. Elementalist getting a greatsword to make it a melee enchanter. Things like this.

We don’t need ‘just another weapon’ for classes that overlap with current ones or are introduced for no other reason than because ANet couldn’t be bothered to make existing weapons work.

if necro got torch i would never come back

new weapons would be cool . cant say i am a fan of thief having rifle or scepter though :S

would rather see GS double swords or long bow

but my ranger needs a rifle and a pistol

A claw weapon would be good. Give it to warrior, thief, ranger and Elementalist.
Perhaps a tome offhand weapon too. Give it to guardian, necromancer, mesmer.
Chain whip would be neat. Give it to engineer, warrior and guardian.

Porting existing weapons should be a given. My ele wants a longbow. War horn and torch needed to be fixed and spread out more.

Carighan.6758:

Wait, the kitten-filter prefers [furry little animal] over [opposite of soft]? Heh.

It’s the way it parses combinations of things for maximum censoring. “Hard,” and then “On,” such as in the phrase ‘working very kitten…’ well, it’d be nice to work very kitten – all comfy and cute and stuff.

My elementalist would love a sword. The class needs a pure-melee weapon (the dagger is mid-ranged).

I believe incorporating the traits into the current system is probably extremely more difficult to work out then the weapons skills themselves. Doing so takes time, because it is likely a balancing nightmare.

Carighan.6758:

I think just making more existent weapons available would be a good easy initial pass. My take would be:

• Elementalist: Warhorn
• Engineer: MH Mace
• Mesmer: MH Pistol
• Necromancer: Torch
• Guardian: OH Dagger (used as a casting focus only)
• Ranger: Rifle
• Thief: Rifle as a 1200 range option
• Warrior: Making it difficult. OH Dagger used as a throwing dagger, IMO.

I like some of these, Thief rifle = sniper! I like it. 3 I’d change.

Mesmer: Mainhand Focus, mainly because I want dual beer mugs on my norn mesmer but, I also see it more fitting than the idea of a mesmer sitting there shooting someone, I rather they be channeling bolts of magic from a focus I imagine it being similar to scepter but more about power damage and maybe like a 1 hit shield bubble (like guard focus) + a clone, both would become reflects though when traited.

Guard: Offhand Mace, I don’t like the idea of dagger or really something just like a focus type thing, I want a secondary melee

Ranger: I want a mainhand melee weapon that isn’t as clumsy as sword, so… Dagger.

Fixing current > adding new…logic.

coglin.1867:

I believe incorporating the traits into the current system is probably extremely more difficult to work out then the weapons skills themselves. Doing so takes time, because it is likely a balancing nightmare.

I’m hoping that’s why this long-awaited thing is taking so long – working on balancing.

coglin.1867:

I believe incorporating the traits into the current system is probably extremely more difficult to work out then the weapons skills themselves. Doing so takes time, because it is likely a balancing nightmare.

It should be done sometime though. Every other MMO brings new skills to the table every now and then, and it’s not like they don’t face the same problem.

Xae Isareth.1364:

coglin.1867:

I believe incorporating the traits into the current system is probably extremely more difficult to work out then the weapons skills themselves. Doing so takes time, because it is likely a balancing nightmare.

It should be done sometime though. Every other MMO brings new skills to the table every now and then, and it’s not like they don’t face the same problem.

To be fair, every other MMO doesn’t have a competitive PvP scene. That doesn’t mean I don’t want my MH cross bow for my engineer I have been posting about wanting since beta weekend one. I was simply stating what I feel some may over look, and that it is not as easy as it may at first appear.

Guardian Longbow, Mesmer MH Pistol, Engineer Mace, Thief and Ranger Rifle, Ele/Necro Torch

Necro: Sword, Hammer, or greatsword

Elementalist: Sword, torch, axe or a bow

Mesmer: Pistol Mainhand, shortbow, or daggers

Ranger: Rifle and pistols

Thief: Sword offhand, axe maybe

Engineer: Hammer, mace

Guardian: Axe

Warrior: they don’t have much left honestly.

Atherakhia.4086:

We haven’t even gotten to the point where each weapon for each class is viable. Let alone traits, or even classes overall! Without a balanced product we’ll see some classes getting new weapons to expand their gameplay while others get weapons merely to fill in holes out of laziness.

The only way new weapons would be justified at this point were if they dramatically changed the way classes played.

Ranger getting a staff to turn it more into a Druid. A Thief getting a Scepter to turn it into a Dark Magic user. Elementalist getting a greatsword to make it a melee enchanter. Things like this.

We don’t need ‘just another weapon’ for classes that overlap with current ones or are introduced for no other reason than because ANet couldn’t be bothered to make existing weapons work.

I have to agree with this. Giving the Ranger Pistols, Rifles, Crossbows, Javelins, etc. is going to be pointless unless the weapons can actually be different enough from longbow/shortbow/axe to be worth making (otherwise, we get unjustified nerfs again that try to make weapons more different from each other)

(also, giving Thief greatsword and turning them into something similar to the Dark Knight from other RPGs would be awesome! I would gladly take that over getting a “dark” heavy armor class that was made for the sake of having an opposite to Guardian.)

i’d really like to see a druid style ranger using a staff with support/cc skills

example skills:
“Vine Wall” creates a wall of vines that enemies cannot pass through until it is destroyed

“Grasping Vines” creates a sproutling on the ground, when an enemy stands on it they are rooted for X amount of seconds or until the sproutling is destroyed. (kind of like a hybrid between a trap and the ranger root elite)

“Tree of Life” creates a tree of life which will passively grant healing, regen or condi removal (or all? XD) to allies within its area until it is destroyed.

“Withering Tree” creates a withering tree which will passively apply weakness and poison to enemies in range until it is destroyed.

I thought of staff Ranger as well, I think it would be awesome to have nature support/cc skills.

Also,
Guardian – longbow (2h offensive spell casting – similar to Necro marks)
Warrior – Main hand shield (phalanx, epic support)
Necromancer- 2h melee, hammer or GS would be cool. Something to cleave
Engi – Hammer or Mace
Mesmer – MH pistol, OH shield
Ele – Warhorn, mace
Thief – OH mace, OH axe, or rifle for range

Seeing as they’re never going to properly balance the rest of them, they might as well just add new skills honestly. I’d rather have new content and things to freshen up the game than nothing at all.

My list?
Elementalist: Mainhand/offhand sword (The class lacks full melee DPS)
Engineer: Hammer/Hammer Kit (Because flavor)
Guardian: Mainhand/Offhand Axe (Nothing else really fits)
Mesmer: Mainhand/offhand Dagger (The class lacks close-quarters melee DPS aside from sword)
Necromancer: Mainhand Sword/Offhand Axe (To fulfill melee blood magic)
Ranger: Staff (The class needs a support/Warden weapon after it was designed)
Thief: Longbow (It needs a 1200-range ranged weapon/attack option, rifles are clumsy and the class has limited out-of-stealth/non-blindspam options. Allows for non-pet archers to have a class they want to play)
Warrior: Torch if anything? They really have so many options already but hammer is overly-dominant.

That being said, I am in full support of Thief + Engineer crossbow.

I’d really like to see an axe for guardians. They really need a condi option, and all current weapons have specific roles they already fill. I wouldn’t want any of them to be converted.

Engineer could use melee pressure with a mace. It would be nice to utilize shield in a power build, and not be required to use tool kit for any type of melee.

However, I don’t think weapons should be added for the sake of adding them. The new weapons should be introduced to fill a roll the class doesn’t have access to, and fixing old weapons should take priority if possible. Like the warrior doesn’t need a new ranged weapon, just make the rifle viable.

Double Edged spear for my Ranger please!

Shanks.2907:

However, I don’t think weapons should be added for the sake of adding them. The new weapons should be introduced to fill a roll the class doesn’t have access to, and fixing old weapons should take priority if possible. Like the warrior doesn’t need a new ranged weapon, just make the rifle viable.

I really hope this doesn’t include Engineer Kits as ‘accessible roles,’ because…well, really, I just don’t like how emphasized Kits are, and would really like for Kitless builds to be more viable. Maybe some kind of ‘if no Kits are on the skill bar, this happens’ thing on weapons would help.

Carighan.6758:

I think just making more existent weapons available would be a good easy initial pass. My take would be:

• Ranger: Rifle

No. No, no, no, no. Not another single target, ranged option. What are rifles and pistols supposed to offer that the two bows and the axe doesn’t already offer?

Mainhand dagger would make more sense, as it would be less awkward than the sword, but still more offensive oriented than the greatsword (although I have to admit that having the dagger as simply an off-hand option makes more sense in terms of the class’ theme). As for ranged weapons, a heavily support focused staff could work.

Or perhaps, a hammer.. bunny thumper

Lazze.9870:

No. No, no, no, no. Not another single target, ranged option. What are rifles and pistols supposed to offer that the two bows and the axe doesn’t already offer?

Huh? Who said anything about single-target, or even long ranged?
Engineer Rifle is a mobility/utility weapon, could easily make it something like that. Plus it’s AA is a line-AE.

But that’s just an example, I said nothing about which skills I’d like to see.

Carighan.6758:

Lazze.9870:

No. No, no, no, no. Not another single target, ranged option. What are rifles and pistols supposed to offer that the two bows and the axe doesn’t already offer?

Huh? Who said anything about single-target, or even long ranged?
Engineer Rifle is a mobility/utility weapon, could easily make it something like that. Plus it’s AA is a line-AE.

But that’s just an example, I said nothing about which skills I’d like to see.

It’s less flavorful and the role is already largely fulfilled elsewhere. Staff support or even melee staff would be pretty crazy imho.

warrior – staff
guardian – mace OH, axe MH
thief – mace OH/MH, sword OH
engineer – mace OH/MH, hammer
ranger – staff, dagger MH, mace OH
elementalist – hammer, axe MH
mesmer – pistol MH, axe OH
necromancer – sword MH, axe OH

Although I feel balance is the best it has ever been and I would love new weapons… I don’t think we have been in this state for long enough to throw weapons in.

Adding new things as varied as new weapons is going to be pretty hard to keep in line with the rest of the game considering the constant lack of resources as history has shown from overly slow balance updates.

Daishi.6027:

Adding new things as varied as new weapons is going to be pretty hard to keep in line with the rest of the game considering the constant lack of resources as history has shown from overly slow balance updates.

I’m assuming you mean sPvP-balance?
Because so little attention has been given to PvE or WvW balance that really don’t feel improved at all.

And really, if a tiny loss of current balance, especially in a minority game mode, is all it takes to implement actual new stuff, then please, yes, take all balance away right now and given me 10 new weapons and 25 new utility skills.
Because honestly, well, balance is overrated. It’s worth nothing if the skills have to be so bland and boring for it.

All i want is the Ranger to get a staff. Heal/support based weapon skill set to roleplay a druid.

Tryxtr.6295:

I think it’s much more likely that Anet allows classes to use more pre-existing weapons before they introduce a couple brand new ones, but honestly they should do both.

This is a list of the existing weapons I think professions should already be able to use, plus new weapons

Elementalist: Axe (MH/OH), Torch
Engineer: Mace, Crossbow (new)
Guardian: Warhorn, Battleaxe (new), Javelin (new)
Mesmer: Warhorn, Javelin (new)
Necromancer: Axe (OH), Torch
Ranger: Rifle, Javelin (new), Crossbow (new)
Thief: Axe (MH/OH), Crossbow (new)
Warrior: Battleaxe (new), Javelin (new)

And, just for fun, here’s some weapons that I think SHOULD NOT be available on certain classes because I don’t think they fit with the image of the class:

Mesmer: Pistol
Ranger: Greatsword
Warrior: Rifle

Rangers use greatswords in nearly all fiction. They favor greatswords or dual wielding. Usually its not called a “great” sword, they fight with a single sword but with two hands, no shield. See Elbryan Wyndon or Aragon or LOTR fame. Also, Dungeons and Dragons rangers use GS.

zapv.8051:

Necro: Sword, Hammer, or greatsword

Elementalist: Sword, torch, axe or a bow

Mesmer: Pistol Mainhand, shortbow, or daggers

Ranger: Rifle and pistols

Thief: Sword offhand, axe maybe

Engineer: Hammer, mace

Guardian: Axe

Warrior: they don’t have much left honestly.

I have the same list, except id also give Ranger a staff for CC melee

coglin.1867:

Xae Isareth.1364:

coglin.1867:

I believe incorporating the traits into the current system is probably extremely more difficult to work out then the weapons skills themselves. Doing so takes time, because it is likely a balancing nightmare.

It should be done sometime though. Every other MMO brings new skills to the table every now and then, and it’s not like they don’t face the same problem.

To be fair, every other MMO doesn’t have a competitive PvP scene. That doesn’t mean I don’t want my MH cross bow for my engineer I have been posting about wanting since beta weekend one. I was simply stating what I feel some may over look, and that it is not as easy as it may at first appear.

If we look at the biggest competitive MOBA on the planet, LoL, they still introduce new heroes. For us, that’s pretty much a new weapon because we have fixed weapon skills.

Even if sPvP balance is a valid reason, you can’t just let character progression on all game modes fall stagnant due to one game mode which isn’t even that popular, judging by how most of media attention on GW2 is more focused towards PvE, most of the updated are for PvE, and the low view counts for PvP even in the tourney finals.

Daishi.6027:

Although I feel balance is the best it has ever been and I would love new weapons… I don’t think we have been in this state for long enough to throw weapons in.

Adding new things as varied as new weapons is going to be pretty hard to keep in line with the rest of the game considering the constant lack of resources as history has shown from overly slow balance updates.

They got 300 people working in Anet. Three hundred.

Lack of resources is the last excuse they can make.

For Ranger an OH sword and a staff would be very cool

Carighan.6758:

Lazze.9870:

No. No, no, no, no. Not another single target, ranged option. What are rifles and pistols supposed to offer that the two bows and the axe doesn’t already offer?

Huh? Who said anything about single-target, or even long ranged?
Engineer Rifle is a mobility/utility weapon, could easily make it something like that. Plus it’s AA is a line-AE.

The standard range of the basic rifle attacks are 1,035 – 1,265, so it would be some kind of a ranged weapon.

MH dagger and off-hand sword are already mentioned. I think both of these makes much more sense. A staff would be interesting aswell. And of course, as I mentioned earlier, a hammer! Bunny Thumper!

You’re obviously allowed to have a different opinion.

Necro – Greatsword

Ranger – Hammer (Bunny thumper pls)

Mesmer – Mainhand Pistol

Thief – Rifle/Longbow

Engineer – Hammer/Mace

Guardian – Offhand Sword

Warrior – Offhand Torch

Ele – Sword?

NO Rifle or firearms for the Ranger plz… My ranger is no fraking solider….. I’d much rather have a staff!!!

I’m all in for staff or OH focus for ranger too, giving it more support-y skills.

I want hammer with my ranger! I miss my bunny thumper from gw1

Lightsbane.9012:

is this going to happen ever?

coming soon (2030)

I’d love to have a greatsword for Elementalist.

Halberds would be pretty cool. :x

Tyreal.5230:

I’d love to have a greatsword for Elementalist.

Halberds would be pretty cool. :x

You already have a greatsword for your ele :P

Soon™

/15chars

Solori.6025:

Tyreal.5230:

I’d love to have a greatsword for Elementalist.

Halberds would be pretty cool. :x

You already have a greatsword for your ele :P

That piece of kitten isn’t anything.