Guild Wars 2

+1 on this! i was already confused about dragonbash and aetherblade stuff overlapping !
deadlines would be great!

Aarean.5398:

Seriously. Post your deadlines if you have temporary content. Very rude for people with lives and obligations.

And make sure they are accurate (UTC time preferred). At least once people has been burned by incorrect statements about end dates.

Most (all?) temporary things HAVE been posted with their deadline, on their preview and/or patch notes.

lordkrall.7241:

Most (all?) temporary things HAVE been posted with their deadline, on their preview and/or patch notes.

Yes, and you have to go through various pages to find them all.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Deadlines always seem to create confusion for players as currently there is no single one place to find the info.

Every release there is some players that manage to not find the info… but they come to this very forum looking for it.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Yes, and you have to go through various pages to find them all.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Deadlines always seem to create confusion for players as currently there is no single one place to find the info.

Every release there is some players that manage to not find the info… but they come to this very forum looking for it.

Nope, they are all found on one (or well two pages, but the second one is linked from the first one).

Yep, and even if there were massive blinking signs every time someone logged into the game some players would miss it, so I don’t really see your point?

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/june-11-2013/

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/june-25-2013/

https://www.guildwars2.com/en/the-game/releases/july-09-2013/

How is 1 page per event hard to follow? Besides the above, you can check the patch notes, which are always in the same place on the forum, or put your faith in the wiki (which is updated by players and while usually correct can have some human error by accident).

Heck I usually get an email from anet 1-2 days after an event starts which usually links to all the event info. Event info is pretty easy to find/come by with just a simple google search too. And while I can’t check/remember didn’t we get a mail for dragon bash that said when the event was ending in game?

Would it help if the Wiki sticky at the top had any info related to this…so we can avoid multiple stickies? Or would that not be as much of a help since the title wouldn’t notify you the info is there?

I don’t mind trying to create a central post out of that thread with at-a-glance info.

Vahkris.6847:

Would it help if the Wiki sticky at the top had any info related to this…so we can avoid multiple stickies? Or would that not be as much of a help since the title wouldn’t notify you the info is there?

I don’t mind trying to create a central post out of that thread with at-a-glance info.

I think one sticky thread in the Living Story sub-forum called something like “Start and End Dates” would work. It could be updated at each event with start and end dates for certain achievements.

PS: Aarean, you called ANet rude for not having this information, but IMO it is more rude to demand such things from ANet. It is also even more rude to tell people to go pound dirt just because they do not agree with you.

Jemmi. The poster made this to get awareness of a lack of information. It also causes stress for many people whom enjoy getting achieves like myself. But in my case and many others they have things come up in their lives and arnt sure when the even closes. This causes stress which anet could easily avoid. And that comment was towards people posting on this subject with absolutely no positive value to the original posters comment. This addition doesnt cause any adverse effects to anyone and to challenge it is just nonsense. If you dont like the suggestion just walk away..

Jemmi.6058:

Vahkris.6847:

Would it help if the Wiki sticky at the top had any info related to this…so we can avoid multiple stickies? Or would that not be as much of a help since the title wouldn’t notify you the info is there?

I don’t mind trying to create a central post out of that thread with at-a-glance info.

I think one sticky thread in the Living Story sub-forum called something like “Start and End Dates” would work. It could be updated at each event with start and end dates for certain achievements.

I think I would prefer the end dates in the overview sticky at the top of each chapter, but at the end of the day either of those options would work for me.

Thank you.

An in game calendar would be nice, not everyone checks the forums or the website

Jemmi.6058:

Vahkris.6847:

Would it help if the Wiki sticky at the top had any info related to this…so we can avoid multiple stickies? Or would that not be as much of a help since the title wouldn’t notify you the info is there?

I don’t mind trying to create a central post out of that thread with at-a-glance info.

I think one sticky thread in the Living Story sub-forum called something like “Start and End Dates” would work. It could be updated at each event with start and end dates for certain achievements.

I was actually thinking at the top of each release because players would be actively looking for the start/end dates of a release in the subforum of THAT release, not necessarily leaving the subforum of a release for the general Living World subforum so they can find those dates. Having it in the Living World subforum would definitely avoid constantly remaking the dates post…but then again it does avoid the post going too long without being updated by that person.

Either way works, but I think the dates for a release being stickied at the top of that release’s subform works best. At least in my opinion.

The main issue is that no matter how clearly they post it people will still complain about missing the end date.

I have to sit for the bar exam in 20 days. kitten it, Anet, give the releases a rest for like three weeks.

I agree – it would be nice to have that info all in one place, especially when trying to figure out overlapping or multi-part events.

Medazolam.3058:

An in game calendar would be nice, not everyone checks the forums or the website

This would be really, really great.

Wallace MacBix.2089:

How is 1 page per event hard to follow? Besides the above, you can check the patch notes, which are always in the same place on the forum, or put your faith in the wiki (which is updated by players and while usually correct can have some human error by accident).

Heck I usually get an email from anet 1-2 days after an event starts which usually links to all the event info. Event info is pretty easy to find/come by with just a simple google search too. And while I can’t check/remember didn’t we get a mail for dragon bash that said when the event was ending in game?

Neither the release page nor the patch notes have the deadlines for any of the achievements or other content. All the info I could find so far was “some content will be available for 2 weeks and some content for 4 weeks”.

Relates threads
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/bazaar/How-long-will-the-Bazaar-last
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/bazaar/how-long-this-event-last

I have been hunting all over these forums for deadline information for the new content.

I have to do these things in increments and I need to be able to plan ahead. It’s very frustrating to have to beg for simple, straightforward information like this every time temporary content is added.

good idea, I can’t find ending dates either, they’re NOT on the official event page, though the old event page has deadlines

What a great idea! I also vote for in-game calendar (sick of having to hunt for LS info outside of the game… like how to take down Mai). I have a family to help take care of, a full time job, friends to spend time with… I need end dates so I can plan my limited GW2 time. I love the living story but they are SO SHORT (yet so full of stuff I need to do). God help me if I have plans two weekends in a row because then I miss out on tons of content forever (ugh).

This update is so beautiful ;.; I need to know how to make the most of my time with it. Hopefully this stuff lasts more than two weeks because I genuinely can’t handle this pace. Which is good! Congrats to the devs on their hard work. But also terrible because I’m a completionist and longtime GW fangirl who must Do All The Things and I feel like I’m being punished/rushed for having real life obligations.

I noticed that daily and monthly achievement sections have a timer on remaining time left to complete it. I think they should add it to the Living Story section. This would be more accurate than telling people a certain day because of time zone/reset time differences.

In addition, ingame calendars for living story/holidays and guild scheduling events are needed.

kokocabana.8153:

I noticed that daily and monthly achievement sections have a timer on remaining time left to complete it. I think they should add it to the Living Story section. This would be more accurate than telling people a certain day because of time zone/reset time differences.

Seconded. A timer on the achievements page would be perfect.

Debsylvania.7396:

I have been hunting all over these forums for deadline information for the new content.

I have to do these things in increments and I need to be able to plan ahead. It’s very frustrating to have to beg for simple, straightforward information like this every time temporary content is added.

I’ve been looking and haven’t found any deadlines specifically mentioned for any piece of content (Everything is “Begins <Date>”, whereas the fireworks was specifically “June 14-17”.

Therefore, we have to go with the default of “at the end of these two releases”, as that’s the precedent (Flame and Frost was an exception as it was designed to be 4 months long).

So, August 6th-ish, until further notice (IMO…4 weeks after this one was released).

How long will we have BotFW?

How long are the achievments available?

How long?

It’s almost poetic.

Pixelpumpkin.4608:

Jemmi.6058:

Vahkris.6847:

Would it help if the Wiki sticky at the top had any info related to this…so we can avoid multiple stickies? Or would that not be as much of a help since the title wouldn’t notify you the info is there?

I don’t mind trying to create a central post out of that thread with at-a-glance info.

I think one sticky thread in the Living Story sub-forum called something like “Start and End Dates” would work. It could be updated at each event with start and end dates for certain achievements.

I think I would prefer the end dates in the overview sticky at the top of each chapter, but at the end of the day either of those options would work for me.

Thank you.

Yes, I agree. I’d be happy with either, but the place I went first tonight to look for the info was the overview sticky at the top of this thread. Of course an in game calendar or the addition of the end dates to the achievements interface would be ideal, but then, updating a forum thread doesn’t require programming hours.

I posted a BotFW/CP deadline post in the new Cutthroat Politics subforum.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/livingworld/cutthroat/BotFW-CP-Achievement-and-Content-Deadlines/first#post2423978

Is this what you’re looking for? I was tempted to just merge it in the already-stickied Wiki post, and may eventually do that to keep it at the top, but it’s something new and wanted some feedback.

Why put them all over the internet, when we know they have a system for putting timers in the game? They really should just use the Daily/Monthly system of a timer on the achievements themselves.

Asking for this info is quite reasonable. DEMANDING it and calling the Devs “rude” for not supplying it is no where near reasonable (and ironically is quite rude itself).

Is there an actual ArenaNet employee post or news item that clearly states at what date the BotFW living story achievements are removed?

Excuse me for not reading all threads everywhere but each one I followed only had assumptions and conjecture by players, not facts straight from the dev team.

Most of the time possibly important posts are also drowned out by people attacking Anet over not including such details and other rushing to their defense, as witnessed in this thread

Mastruq.2463:

Is there an actual ArenaNet employee post or news item that clearly states at what date the BotFW living story achievements are removed?

Excuse me for not reading all threads everywhere but each one I followed only had assumptions and conjecture by players, not facts straight from the dev team.

Most of the time possibly important posts are also drowned out by people attacking Anet over not including such details and other rushing to their defense, as witnessed in this thread

No post that I’m aware of.

My date given in my thread is based on precedent, in lieu of facts. Each Living Story team is working on a month’s worth of content. Secret of Southsun and Last Stand at Southsun achievements went away at the end of that month. Dragon Bash and Sky Pirates achievements went away at the end of that month. I see no evidence this month’s achievements are any different.

If anyone can find evidence to the contrary, I will update accordingly. I’ll go ahead and update my post in the CP subforum to state that BotFW’s achievement ending is based on this precedent.

Since Anet have said they’re moving to a rolling cycle of 2-week updates for LS content, I’m simply going to assume I’ve got 2 weeks to complete achivements associated with new LS content.
So for Bot4W I’m aiming to at least complete the meta by end of Monday 22nd ready for new content coming out 22nd/23rd in my timezone.

Mizuki Kusanagi.6584:

Since Anet have said they’re moving to a rolling cycle of 2-week updates for LS content, I’m simply going to assume I’ve got 2 weeks to complete achivements associated with new LS content.
So for Bot4W I’m aiming to at least complete the meta by end of Monday 22nd ready for new content coming out 22nd/23rd in my timezone.

They’re moving to a 2 week schedule, but each team is responsible for a whole month’s content (both releases). i.e. Dragon Bash and Sky Pirates were done by the same team. It’s highly likely the first release for a month will persist into the next release, and then both achievements will end before the following release. We’re at the mid-month release for Cutthroat Politics.

It is probably safest not to wait, though. :P

How about a different approach where the achievement system itself states if an achievement has a deadline?

That’d be great.

Unfortunately that also takes time and development resources to implement. Having a single location with all the deadlines for the release available in a logical place is something that doesn’t, and can be done now.

Edit: and some do have a deadline described. Grandmaster of Om actually states it needs to be completed before the Sanctum departs.

Vague hints and RP-style, in-game text do not help players. Every linked post in this thread are guesses and opinions, not actual statements on the end date of achievement availability from developers.

Why can’t ArenaNet give their customers a simple,plain date so we can know whether we should be doing panicked grinding or not. There is absolutely NO good reason to be deliberately hiding this information.

It is reeks of a scheme drummed up by Marketing. “Let’s keep the dates vague so people will get an artificial sense of urgency!” As I said, absolutely no good reason for it.

I think the content would be more enjoyable and “last” longer if given a deadline.

For instance – people rushing to get everything in the first three days – they just burn through the content. If they know they have until August 5th, they can spread it out and not worry about burning out and keep trying on some things they find more difficult without having to do it for hours at a time.

They already have count-down timers on the Daily and Monthly pages, I can’t believe it would be THAT hard to add them to other ones, too.

I don’t think it should be a big deal to develop an in-game calendar, but if it was I think that players would be happy to contribute to a fund to pay a team to do it if it was really that big a deal. Either have it be like a Kickstarter in-game in the BLTC or have it as a buyable add-on. Although I feel like it’s a simple enough and necessary enough game addition that that shouldn’t be necessary.

Ceallach.8740:

I think the content would be more enjoyable and “last” longer if given a deadline.

For instance – people rushing to get everything in the first three days – they just burn through the content. If they know they have until August 5th, they can spread it out and not worry about burning out and keep trying on some things they find more difficult without having to do it for hours at a time.

That is defenitely what’s happening to me. I just won’t take any chances with the achievements anymore.

But I would much prefer if I was able to spread the stuff out and keep GW continual and consistent fun, which is, I think, what Living Story is all about.

Phew. Here I thought I was the only one who had trouble finding the end date for this thing. Judging from the posts here no one actually knows.

A timer as with daily and monthly would be nice.

Ceallach.8740:

I think the content would be more enjoyable and “last” longer if given a deadline.

For instance – people rushing to get everything in the first three days – they just burn through the content. If they know they have until August 5th, they can spread it out and not worry about burning out and keep trying on some things they find more difficult without having to do it for hours at a time.

Absolutely agree with that.