Guild Wars 2

Wouldn’t it be nice to be able to get rid of those account bound items that you get in BL chests but will likely not use due to your play style or being happy with the character stats/look? Otherwise it seems potentially wasted capital you could use elsewhere but you are stuck with it, can’t sell it or even give it to a friend. It sits, taking up space in your bank.
A friend and I were talking, they had mentioned it would be nice if BL could offer a “buy back” type of program. An exchange of unwanted items for the market set prices in gems, gold or other items the player may need.
I personally love BL chests and have a LOT of these type items accumulated. An example would be transmutation crystals or stones…..my stack grows at 350 crystals (keeping the numbers rounded) and I know I’ll never use 1/10th of them. I’ve transmuted maybe 5 items since I started playing. Bottom line is about 11,200 gems sitting there based on listed price from BL in stacks of 25.
I emailed Anet and they suggested I place the topic here for discussion so the interest level in such a program can be determined. So, aside from the fact that I open too many chests…….what does everyone think? Got extra stuff you can’t sell but would like to??

Do you mean like:
-Buy a chest for 100 gems
-Get crap you don’t need but is worth 100 gems
-Sell crap for 100 gems
-Buy another chest for 100 gems
-Repeat until you get what you need, total cost 100 gems.

That would kinda ruin the whole idea of gambling chests

Chests have and always will be a Whitman Sampler of Gem Store items. That and that alone is their primary purpose. The fact that “chance to enter to win $1 million” sticker is now on all the boxes is meaningless because you are buying a box a chocolates. You can’t just collect the entry forms and return the box of chocolate.

It’d be a good idea if the buyback was say… 1/3 the gemstore price.

I understand the chests are a gamble……this is not to be disputed. I have items I want to keep and have sold a couple of items I was allowed to (permanent banking contract and something else)……
What I mean is would it not be beneficial to the players who would rather use gold to purchase a single item or two……so that excess can be sold or an option to resell to BL if that were to become an option.
I have 22 make over kits and 22 hair style kits but am happy with my characters from the start. That’s 9600 gems according to BL pricing. So if could sell back to BL or place up on market would leave players options both in buying and selling (or BL could corner the market by being the only ones to buy such items back minus the taxes).

Magnus….this is true……I do not mean to imply that the items would be bought back at the full price listed, just those were the only numbers I had. I would say that a “buyback” (for lack of better phrase) of about 1/3 would be fair.

tkarr.9152:

Magnus….this is true……I do not mean to imply that the items would be bought back at the full price listed, just those were the only numbers I had. I would say that a “buyback” (for lack of better phrase) of about 1/3 would be fair.

I had figured as much but thought I would throw that in… it would just be nice to clear out some of the clutter I can’t get myself to just destroy.

Amen to that one

If this was to be implemented the lvl 10 PS key would have to be removed.

Now people who want to sell things back to gems have no supply of crap to sell back.

Problem solved. Not gonna happen.

I think he means (for example): Sell Instant Repair Canister to gem store and get 20 gems back (normally costs 70 gems to buy)
Would be a good idea. I know I’ll never use these porta-TP-delivery-guys (have perma one). would be nice if they weren’t as wasteful.
It should definitely be 1/3, 1/4, or even 1/5 of buy price. So a key would cost 125 gems to buy, or you’d get 40 gems when sold. If so, that key farming could net like 80 gems/hour = 4.88g/hour. probably too much. let’s say 1/5; 25 gems back = 3g/hour.
I wouldn’t sell the repair canisters or revive orbs I have, even though I rarely use them. But I would sell glory boosters and porta-merchants.

Remi, sorry but I didn’t understand a word you were saying about keys being removed etc. I like to play the game and can’t say I know anything of the internal workings like you are talking.

Mystic, you hit the nail on the head. I have things I will keep and use, things I’ll use but not in the amount I have and things that will not be used at all. I’m sure everyone that opens BL chests regularly does.

Just wondering why no ANet or Dev response??

I would like to sell back my 130 mystic forge stones >> even at a 50% return, that would be a nice 2.5k gems ^^

I would buy a lot more Black Lion keys with $ if I knew I could re-sell and re-roll some of the garbage items I will never use from them.

Because at least then I would have the following mindset:

“At least I can sell some of this and try to get something I will use. Perhaps some more Transmutation Crystal instead of boosters.”

Instead of the now mindset of:

“Great more junk I’ll just keep in my bank until I decide to quit this game.”

And this is in no way because I want to quit the game. But because having something I paid for (even if it was a tiny amount of gems for a gambled chance at tickets/scraps) still leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

At least let us sell the items we do not want back to 1/2 or 1/3 their value so we can spend them on something we might like instead.

You have to understand — it does not matter to your playbase whether they paid for these things in $$$ or in game gold or even random chance from a RNG Chest. To ArenaNet this might matter, because you want successful profits for your company. To your playerbase, we don’t get a share of your profits.

So anything that seems like a loss for us in any way, hinders us from wanting to contribute to your company profits.

Gambling in games is fine. As long as we can RESELL some of it and take less of a perceived loss. (Because it is that perceived loss part, that makes your player base bitter.) Instead allow us to make a perceived profit from a bad situation. Thus, making us happy campers instead of rude, mean, spiteful players who think we’re being bamboozled.

We know the Black Lion Chests are chance. You know they are chance. We take a risk buying them.

All we want is to not be screwed 100% when they contain things we don’t want. Why can’t I sell back the prizes to the gem store at a small profit, or to other players when I clearly do not want them. And someone else might.

Heck why can’t I give them away to someone who will use them.

Allow us to have a better experience in the Gem Store. And we will use it more.

[P.S. For anyone who is about to start the you don’t have to buy it argument. Please don’t. Be constructive instead. If you bought something in real life that would give you “a chance at several different items.” Would you be able to sell some of the stuff you got to someone else or give it away in real life? Or would the police tell you, “You won that sir, you are not allowed to give it away or resell it. Because it is yours and you paid for it.”]

No they would not. They’d gladly let you go to Ebay and resell at your hearts content. For whatever you could get for it.

Please seriously consider doing this. Maybe I’ll spend $$ on the gem store again instead of just trade post farming to make gold and doing Gold -> Gems. (I spent a good deal at the start of the game to buy gems with $. (Feel free to check how much money I spent on my account before.) Then I got bitter at having so many Account Bound items that should be re-sellable or able to given to people I know who want them.

So I decided to learn the Trade Post Wars, and farm the TP for massive gold and do Gold -> Gems. So I could get Gem Store items without feeling like I was being laughed at for supporting a company that deserves supporting.

Ashadow,
Thanks for the input and support!! I HOPE BL or ANet see the logic before I decide to give up the game. My kids have taken a liking to it as well and have both asked me to buy them copies……this plan is of course on hold partially due to lack of response among other things.
I’m sure there are many many others in the same boat as you and I, I have spread the word to folks I interact with but they are under the impression that BL is in it for the company and doesn’t really care much about player base…..only player pockets. They rarely visit forums because does it really do any good (someone actually asked me that). I guess only time will tell.

Ashadow.6874:

Instead of the now mindset of:

“Great more junk I’ll just keep in my bank until I decide to quit this game.”

At least let us sell the items we do not want back to 1/2 or 1/3 their value so we can spend them on something we might like instead.

You have to understand — it does not matter to your playbase whether they paid for these things in $$$ or in game gold or even random chance from a RNG Chest. To ArenaNet this might matter, because you want successful profits for your company. To your playerbase, we don’t get a share of your profits.

So anything that seems like a loss for us in any way, hinders us from wanting to contribute to your company profits.

Gambling in games is fine. As long as we can RESELL some of it and take less of a perceived loss. (Because it is that perceived loss part, that makes your player base bitter.) Instead allow us to make a perceived profit from a bad situation. Thus, making us happy campers instead of rude, mean, spiteful players who think we’re being bamboozled.

All we want is to not be screwed 100% when they contain things we don’t want. Why can’t I sell back the prizes to the gem store at a small profit, or to other players when I clearly do not want them. And someone else might.

Heck why can’t I give them away to someone who will use them.

Allow us to have a better experience in the Gem Store. And we will use it more.

[P.S. For anyone who is about to start the you don’t have to buy it argument. Please don’t. Be constructive instead. If you bought something in real life that would give you “a chance at several different items.” Would you be able to sell some of the stuff you got to someone else or give it away in real life? Or would the police tell you, “You won that sir, you are not allowed to give it away or resell it. Because it is yours and you paid for it.”]

No they would not. They’d gladly let you go to Ebay and resell at your hearts content. For whatever you could get for it.

So I decided to learn the Trade Post Wars, and farm the TP for massive gold and do Gold -> Gems. So I could get Gem Store items without feeling like I was being laughed at for supporting a company that deserves supporting.

I too am going to play the BLTP game……no more out of my pockets.

I have seen from the ANET, DEV and MODERATOR activity on 2 full pages of forums….. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK GUYS…….you responded to a TOTAL of 5 posts!! Amazing that YOU provide the SERVICE to US in such a highly efficient manner. Such open minded communication generally results in failure which is a term I have seen associated too much with this game. I try to bring old players back in and they have negative views……I understand now.

If you’re too busy to post a reply or at least a little note that you have even LOOKED at this thread I understand. I’ve come to expect nothing but the best. Hopefully the actual game itself works properly instead of all the garbage I’ve received over the last few hours of play yesterday.