Fused weapon drop rate data
Let’s see what the average will be
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
I used 160+ keys to get my one ticket, and friend got it in about 100.
Edit: Wife’s ticket took around 300 keys, which already feels quite unlucky. Agree with John that information like this is not statistically accurate, but it’ll give people a rough ballpark estimate of what to expect. Meaning that you shouldn’t think it’s easy to get them in 5 or even 50 tries, and budget your keys and prepare your mindset accordingly.
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Let’s see what the average will be
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
So why don’t you guys just release the “accurate” statistics, then? Stop people from having to guess and make these kinds of threads in the first place.
Let’s see what the average will be
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
So why don’t you guys just release the “accurate” statistics, then? Stop people from having to guess and make these kinds of threads in the first place.
Because, the secrets of the universe are not to be revealed so easily.
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
They still reperesent a better sense of the environment than we might have otherwise. Much like ecto-rates, you don’t have to have flawless accuracy to have learned something about the proposition.
From reading the reports, biased or not, I feel pretty comfortable estimating that the chance of getting a molten weapon ticket is less than 1 in two boxes…
and less than 1 in five boxes…
or less than 1 in twenty…
Heck. I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s less than 1 in 90 boxes based on biased observation.
None of which would have been appearant from the patch notes alone.
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
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Let’s see what the average will be
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
Oh boy! A new game! Let me try to name the biases of the OP:
1) Funding outcome bias
2) Detection bias
3) Reporting bias
4) Data sniffing bias
5) Analytical bias
6) Exclusion bias
50 chests 1 ticket
:(
Update:L 56 chests 2 tickets
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It’s completely RNG. I got one in approximately 75 keys. Didn’t keep track as I got free keys from a few of the opened BLCs, but I know I bought 60 keys before getting one, and bought 5 keys again in the hopes of getting one more but gave up after that.
Let’s see what the average will be
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
You’re having a field day aren’t you. I rather have see nobody post if it’s just you and these half-witted prove-you-wrong jokes just for your own little pleasure in this little interwebs market of yours. Oh it’s so fascinating. Proceed my sheep, continue the markets!
6 chests and no ticket. 7, I guess, since one had another key in it.
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
1 key – zero tickets. Unless the drop rate on keys on open world PvE increases drastically, that’s all I can contribute to this worthy venture.
About 100 chests, no tickets.
6 chests – no ticket.
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
ok so if we count together all reports up to this post (assuming they are acurate) the total tally so far:
trials n = 556
successes k = 4
Hmm… 1 in 125?
Caveat: n ± (whatever “about”, or “approximately” means for each and everyone)
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102 chests: 0 ticket.
Anet, really, I’m tired to give you money. I’m thinking to delete the game.
i know its biased…. but i just wanna share…..
Friend #1, 12keys 1 token
Friend #1, got the token on his first try
me? I know rng hates me so im not going to give a try
40 key bought + those which doped
0 ticket
= lost all gold, junk from BLC ( and it take long time to get gold if u don;t farm ;/ )
It will be SOOOO funny to hear about next drop path change.
Next “carrot” with i won;t be able to get (because i’m walking backwards). 700h of game-play and i got karma-skin bow ;/.
( ps. REALLY great work ArenaNet team skin are really great, longbow better than legendary )
Hehe, for the fun of it – sorry, I meant science, another 15, no ticket. But a total makeover kit, one set of mini’s and 5 transmutation crystals.
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”
No bad droprate for me.
35 keys bought with some keys from Chest self and got 2 tickets. XD =D
3 chests – 1st ticket,
9 chests – 2nd ticket.
just for fun, someone in map chat got one. they said 1 chest.
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Let’s see what the average will be
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
So I guess you’ll be giving them the numbers then?
~30 keys, 0 ticket
Got The Lover afterwards from a lucky MF though, can’t complain
RNG gods will be RNG gods.
15 chests no ticket.
It’s the most accurate data we have, so unless John is willing to give us better data I don’t see why we shouldn’t use this set of data. Of course john’s data would suffer from NCSOFT bias which is stronger then any bias we can produce on these forums.
1 chest, 0 tickets! Working as intended?
60 Keys, 0 tickets. But i am assuming that’s the point.
0 keys, 0 tickets, and am proud of myself.
Let’s see what the average will be
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
So why don’t you guys just release the “accurate” statistics, then? Stop people from having to guess and make these kinds of threads in the first place.
You mean tell people exactly what it is that they’re buying? But that would be, you know, an honest business practice which might cut into sales.
Welcome to the new, ethics-be-kittened world of video games. If you’re as disgusted with it as I am, vote with your wallet and save your money. Maybe someday enough of us will get fed up with it for something to change.
About 100 chests and ZERO tickets.
SCAM.
I will NEVER buy a black lion chest key EVER again.
SELL THE SKINS DIRECTLY FOR GEMS Anet
I also feel like uninstalling and deleting the game. No longer a strong advocate for this game.
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about 150 chests here. sold my dusk to buy gems… fml
RNG is bad, mmmmmmkay.
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about 150 chests here. sold my dusk to buy gems… fml
Actually, I was kinda wondering how people were financing some of these triple digit key-buys. My paltry 6 were from WvW borderland map completions. I’m up to 58g in my bank, but I’m working on the Golden title, so I won’t be doing any big spending for a long while… If I liked the skins I might buy some gems for laughs, but none of my characters are fire-themed. Maybe next wave.
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
about 150 chests here. sold my dusk to buy gems… fml
About 100 chests and ZERO tickets.
Yikes.
As a huge advocate of RNG in games (what is the point of anything without rarity?), I salute you all
Didn’t you all learn your lesson during the Halloween update? and to add fuel to this fire, i got my ticket on my first chest…its RNG accept it and move on. Having one of these fused weapons actually makes it feel prestigious because of its rarity legendary’s are far too common now. ;D
Funny enough I got a key while doing WvW opened a chest and got a token. I had no idea what they were but I followed the description to LA and got a Staff. Loving the particle effects, easily my favorite staff.
Didn’t you all learn your lesson during the Halloween update? and to add fuel to this fire, i got my ticket on my first chest…its RNG accept it and move on. Having one of these fused weapons actually makes it feel prestigious because of its rarity legendary’s are far too common now. ;D
I said the same thing. I see these as my legendary, as they are not overly annoying with unicorns and pop noises :P
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Didn’t you all learn your lesson during the Halloween update? and to add fuel to this fire, i got my ticket on my first chest…its RNG accept it and move on. Having one of these fused weapons actually makes it feel prestigious because of its rarity legendary’s are far too common now. ;D
This is a lot worse than @ halloween, now the tickets are account bound … 25-30 Keys no ticket, thinking of deleting the game too.
you can buy the halloween weapons. you cant buy these… yet?
18 chests
1 ticket
I unlocked 41 and got the key in the first chest. I was honestly shocked.
Easy, if you are unhappy with their methods (everything RNG based), just ignore the content.
I just ignore Fractal skins (no more fractal), Precursors (MF) and black lion chests (gem store) and I’m feeling quite well.
Btw, Anet, can you ever add some content non-RNG based ?
The new guild skins are not particularly single-check RNG.
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.
The new guild skins are not particularly single-check RNG.
Particularly ugly and easy to obtain.
I was speaking about skins hard to obtain, making them very rares, but not RNG/grind-based. Even if grinding makes you getting closer and closer.
Bought with gold 15 keys. Got about 6 keys back out of chest. Got 2 tickets.
one of my friends: 5 keys – 2 tickets
85 chests
3 tickets
60 Keys
0 Tickets
My son
5 Keys
1 Ticket
-FSP-
60 keys- 0 tickets
my friend- 1 key- 1 ticket
Let’s see what the average will be
Statistically inaccurate
Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.
This is very true. The only people likely to post are either those that have opened a lot of chests and received nothing, or those who’ve opened very few and received one.
Not even accounting for the MASSIVE player base that doesn’t even touch the forums.
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