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Posted by: Gasoline.2570

Gasoline.2570

Ok Ill start, it’s simple, how many keys did you use and how many tickets did you get
57 keys
0 Tickets

Let’s see what the average will be

The balance team is chained to SPVP, and the PVE team is all about producing carnivals

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Posted by: John Smith.4610

John Smith.4610

Let’s see what the average will be

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

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Posted by: Mika.9815

Mika.9815

I used 160+ keys to get my one ticket, and friend got it in about 100.

Edit: Wife’s ticket took around 300 keys, which already feels quite unlucky. Agree with John that information like this is not statistically accurate, but it’ll give people a rough ballpark estimate of what to expect. Meaning that you shouldn’t think it’s easy to get them in 5 or even 50 tries, and budget your keys and prepare your mindset accordingly.

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Posted by: AlietteFaye.7316

AlietteFaye.7316

Let’s see what the average will be

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

So why don’t you guys just release the “accurate” statistics, then? Stop people from having to guess and make these kinds of threads in the first place.

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Posted by: Florgknight.1589

Florgknight.1589

Let’s see what the average will be

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

So why don’t you guys just release the “accurate” statistics, then? Stop people from having to guess and make these kinds of threads in the first place.

Because, the secrets of the universe are not to be revealed so easily.

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

They still reperesent a better sense of the environment than we might have otherwise. Much like ecto-rates, you don’t have to have flawless accuracy to have learned something about the proposition.

From reading the reports, biased or not, I feel pretty comfortable estimating that the chance of getting a molten weapon ticket is less than 1 in two boxes…

and less than 1 in five boxes…

or less than 1 in twenty…

Heck. I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s less than 1 in 90 boxes based on biased observation.

None of which would have been appearant from the patch notes alone.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: Smooth Penguin.5294

Smooth Penguin.5294

Let’s see what the average will be

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

Oh boy! A new game! Let me try to name the biases of the OP:

1) Funding outcome bias
2) Detection bias
3) Reporting bias
4) Data sniffing bias
5) Analytical bias
6) Exclusion bias

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Posted by: Krosslite.1950

Krosslite.1950

50 chests 1 ticket

:(

Update:L 56 chests 2 tickets

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Posted by: lcpdragonslayer.7895

lcpdragonslayer.7895

It’s completely RNG. I got one in approximately 75 keys. Didn’t keep track as I got free keys from a few of the opened BLCs, but I know I bought 60 keys before getting one, and bought 5 keys again in the hopes of getting one more but gave up after that.

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Posted by: Gasoline.2570

Gasoline.2570

Let’s see what the average will be

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

You’re having a field day aren’t you. I rather have see nobody post if it’s just you and these half-witted prove-you-wrong jokes just for your own little pleasure in this little interwebs market of yours. Oh it’s so fascinating. Proceed my sheep, continue the markets!

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

6 chests and no ticket. 7, I guess, since one had another key in it.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: Thelgar.7214

Thelgar.7214

1 key – zero tickets. Unless the drop rate on keys on open world PvE increases drastically, that’s all I can contribute to this worthy venture.

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Posted by: Gilgamesh.6157

Gilgamesh.6157

About 100 chests, no tickets.

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Posted by: Rouven.7409

Rouven.7409

6 chests – no ticket.

“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”

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Posted by: Mentats.1923

Mentats.1923

ok so if we count together all reports up to this post (assuming they are acurate) the total tally so far:

trials n = 556
successes k = 4

Hmm… 1 in 125?

Caveat: n ± (whatever “about”, or “approximately” means for each and everyone)

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Posted by: Endacil.1205

Endacil.1205

102 chests: 0 ticket.
Anet, really, I’m tired to give you money. I’m thinking to delete the game.

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Posted by: Ping.5739

Ping.5739

i know its biased…. but i just wanna share…..
Friend #1, 12keys 1 token
Friend #1, got the token on his first try
me? I know rng hates me so im not going to give a try

This useless bar doesn’t make you awesome. However, stuff above does.

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Posted by: VanDracula.7865

VanDracula.7865

40 key bought + those which doped
0 ticket
= lost all gold, junk from BLC ( and it take long time to get gold if u don;t farm ;/ )

It will be SOOOO funny to hear about next drop path change.

Next “carrot” with i won;t be able to get (because i’m walking backwards). 700h of game-play and i got karma-skin bow ;/.

( ps. REALLY great work ArenaNet team skin are really great, longbow better than legendary )

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Posted by: Rouven.7409

Rouven.7409

Hehe, for the fun of it – sorry, I meant science, another 15, no ticket. But a total makeover kit, one set of mini’s and 5 transmutation crystals.

“Whose Kitten is this?” – “It’s a Charr baby.”
“Whose Charr is this?”- “Ted’s.”
“Who’s Ted?”- “Ted’s dead, baby. Ted’s dead.”

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Posted by: The Ocean.3821

The Ocean.3821

No bad droprate for me.

35 keys bought with some keys from Chest self and got 2 tickets. XD =D

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Posted by: SlaedenBob.6408

SlaedenBob.6408

3 chests – 1st ticket,
9 chests – 2nd ticket.

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Posted by: akamon.2769

akamon.2769

just for fun, someone in map chat got one. they said 1 chest.

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Posted by: SteepledHat.1345

SteepledHat.1345

Let’s see what the average will be

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

So I guess you’ll be giving them the numbers then?

“Failure to remain calm is the sign of a weak mind.”

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Posted by: Doomdesire.9365

Doomdesire.9365

~30 keys, 0 ticket

Got The Lover afterwards from a lucky MF though, can’t complain

RNG gods will be RNG gods.

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Posted by: ZudetGambeous.9573

ZudetGambeous.9573

15 chests no ticket.

It’s the most accurate data we have, so unless John is willing to give us better data I don’t see why we shouldn’t use this set of data. Of course john’s data would suffer from NCSOFT bias which is stronger then any bias we can produce on these forums.

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Posted by: DaShi.1368

DaShi.1368

1 chest, 0 tickets! Working as intended?

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Posted by: Athera.4506

Athera.4506

60 Keys, 0 tickets. But i am assuming that’s the point.

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Posted by: mage.3570

mage.3570

0 keys, 0 tickets, and am proud of myself.

Been there, done that. What’s next?

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Posted by: Nar.8327

Nar.8327

Let’s see what the average will be

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

So why don’t you guys just release the “accurate” statistics, then? Stop people from having to guess and make these kinds of threads in the first place.

You mean tell people exactly what it is that they’re buying? But that would be, you know, an honest business practice which might cut into sales.

Welcome to the new, ethics-be-kittened world of video games. If you’re as disgusted with it as I am, vote with your wallet and save your money. Maybe someday enough of us will get fed up with it for something to change.

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Posted by: rinzler.4908

rinzler.4908

About 100 chests and ZERO tickets.

SCAM.

I will NEVER buy a black lion chest key EVER again.

SELL THE SKINS DIRECTLY FOR GEMS Anet

I also feel like uninstalling and deleting the game. No longer a strong advocate for this game.

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Posted by: ZieBot.9832

ZieBot.9832

about 150 chests here. sold my dusk to buy gems… fml

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Posted by: wookie.8934

wookie.8934

RNG is bad, mmmmmmkay.

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

about 150 chests here. sold my dusk to buy gems… fml

Actually, I was kinda wondering how people were financing some of these triple digit key-buys. My paltry 6 were from WvW borderland map completions. I’m up to 58g in my bank, but I’m working on the Golden title, so I won’t be doing any big spending for a long while… If I liked the skins I might buy some gems for laughs, but none of my characters are fire-themed. Maybe next wave.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: LFk.1408

LFk.1408

about 150 chests here. sold my dusk to buy gems… fml

About 100 chests and ZERO tickets.

Yikes.

As a huge advocate of RNG in games (what is the point of anything without rarity?), I salute you all

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Posted by: Insignia.6345

Insignia.6345

Didn’t you all learn your lesson during the Halloween update? and to add fuel to this fire, i got my ticket on my first chest…its RNG accept it and move on. Having one of these fused weapons actually makes it feel prestigious because of its rarity legendary’s are far too common now. ;D

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Posted by: Alex.9571

Alex.9571

Funny enough I got a key while doing WvW opened a chest and got a token. I had no idea what they were but I followed the description to LA and got a Staff. Loving the particle effects, easily my favorite staff.

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Posted by: Geotherma.2395

Geotherma.2395

Didn’t you all learn your lesson during the Halloween update? and to add fuel to this fire, i got my ticket on my first chest…its RNG accept it and move on. Having one of these fused weapons actually makes it feel prestigious because of its rarity legendary’s are far too common now. ;D

I said the same thing. I see these as my legendary, as they are not overly annoying with unicorns and pop noises :P

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Posted by: Sina.9208

Sina.9208

Didn’t you all learn your lesson during the Halloween update? and to add fuel to this fire, i got my ticket on my first chest…its RNG accept it and move on. Having one of these fused weapons actually makes it feel prestigious because of its rarity legendary’s are far too common now. ;D

This is a lot worse than @ halloween, now the tickets are account bound … 25-30 Keys no ticket, thinking of deleting the game too.

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Posted by: ZieBot.9832

ZieBot.9832

you can buy the halloween weapons. you cant buy these… yet?

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Posted by: jaka.9635

jaka.9635

18 chests
1 ticket

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Posted by: Wolfgang Michael.8217

Wolfgang Michael.8217

I unlocked 41 and got the key in the first chest. I was honestly shocked.

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Posted by: fabipm.4359

fabipm.4359

Easy, if you are unhappy with their methods (everything RNG based), just ignore the content.
I just ignore Fractal skins (no more fractal), Precursors (MF) and black lion chests (gem store) and I’m feeling quite well.

Btw, Anet, can you ever add some content non-RNG based ?

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Posted by: Nike.2631

Nike.2631

The new guild skins are not particularly single-check RNG.

“You keep saying ‘its unfair.’
I wonder what your basis for comparison is…”
- Jareth, King of Goblins.

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Posted by: fabipm.4359

fabipm.4359

The new guild skins are not particularly single-check RNG.

Particularly ugly and easy to obtain.

I was speaking about skins hard to obtain, making them very rares, but not RNG/grind-based. Even if grinding makes you getting closer and closer.

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Posted by: Alexander.4827

Alexander.4827

Bought with gold 15 keys. Got about 6 keys back out of chest. Got 2 tickets.

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Posted by: Daendur.2357

Daendur.2357

one of my friends: 5 keys – 2 tickets

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Posted by: BOSSMAN.2647

BOSSMAN.2647

85 chests
3 tickets

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Posted by: Ephedrine.4521

Ephedrine.4521

60 Keys
0 Tickets

My son
5 Keys
1 Ticket

The Ephed’s of [TanK]
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Posted by: Tanef.7284

Tanef.7284

60 keys- 0 tickets
my friend- 1 key- 1 ticket

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Posted by: MikeRocks.9243

MikeRocks.9243

Let’s see what the average will be

Statistically inaccurate

Surveying forums leads to massive biases including Sample Bias and Response Bias. In this case there are at least 3 other biases not being accounted for off the top of my head.

This is very true. The only people likely to post are either those that have opened a lot of chests and received nothing, or those who’ve opened very few and received one.

Not even accounting for the MASSIVE player base that doesn’t even touch the forums.

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