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Posted by: Bubby.6475

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Ive been doing some digging around and found out that Tuesday’s* anniversary sale included the fused skins. I loved these skins and of course I was extremely happy but then I remembered something. I quit the game because I wasted 2 weeks worth of money on fused tickets and got nothing out of it. When other people got it in 1 try, it felt like a HUGE kick in the gonads. So heres my suggestion.

Please make fused skins purchasable FOR A SET AMOUNT OF GEMS like the winterskin ones.

Thank you for your consideration.

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Posted by: Lisa.6102

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you can buy them on the tp for +200g …. if you farmed the life out of the watchwork event you could get one for $0 of real life money

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Posted by: Ursan.7846

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They are available for purchase without RNG on the TP. Buy gems → convert to gold → purchase off the TP.

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Posted by: Bubby.6475

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No. Everyone’s mother knows TP pricing for gem-skins is a complete rip off. Look at the wintersday skins. They were a little over 5 dollars. Now their priced at 150g. That is 15 TIMES MORE gold than their actual price. I know everyone needs to make some profit, but the gold price is just inconceivable.

Please take the fused skins out of the BLC.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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I have a feeling that anyone pricing the Winter skins at 150g is going to be in for a BIG disappointment. If the skins were selling for only 15 gold before the update, what makes them think that demand will suddenly increase now that they’ve become permanent additions to the weapon vendors?

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Posted by: Tom Gore.4035

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I have a feeling that anyone pricing the Winter skins at 150g is going to be in for a BIG disappointment. If the skins were selling for only 15 gold before the update, what makes them think that demand will suddenly increase now that they’ve become permanent additions to the weapon vendors?

Perhaps the fact it takes on average about 40 RL dollars to get one single ticket. How many tickets were these skins again?

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

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5. But the point I was making is that if the player base was mostly “meh” about the weapons before, they’re not going to suddenly want them now just because their “official price” has gone up.

At best, you’re probably only going to get a few bites from diehard collectors or people who absolutely MUST have the skin for whatever reason, but it’s not going to generate enough demand to sustain prices at that level.

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Posted by: Smooth Penguin.5294

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No. Everyone’s mother knows TP pricing for gem-skins is a complete rip off. Look at the wintersday skins. They were a little over 5 dollars. Now their priced at 150g. That is 15 TIMES MORE gold than their actual price. I know everyone needs to make some profit, but the gold price is just inconceivable.

Please take the fused skins out of the BLC.

I’m curious. What are you basing your “acceptable price” for vanity skins on? And on a related question, would it be more fair to price things based on what you want, or what others value it as?

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Posted by: Bubby.6475

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What are you basing your “acceptable price” for vanity skins on? And on a related question, would it be more fair to price things based on what you want, or what others value it as?

They were priced at 500 gems not 7500. If you think Im doing this just for myself, well sorry to break it to you but…

You’re wrong.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1b1ud1/fused_weapon_skins/c92sf7r

This is just one of many responses when they released fused skins. 1/3~ of people from that thread agreed with me. There is SO many more responses I can link from multiple threads but it’s against forum rules to include profanity.

RNG needs to go.

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Posted by: Ursan.7846

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RNG needs to go.

Wut.

I think your problem isn’t with RNG, but simply with the difficulty of obtaining said weapon skin….

I’m pretty sure you won’t be happy if they sold the skins for a flat rate of 7500 gems.

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Posted by: Smooth Penguin.5294

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What are you basing your “acceptable price” for vanity skins on? And on a related question, would it be more fair to price things based on what you want, or what others value it as?

They were priced at 500 gems not 7500. If you think Im doing this just for myself, well sorry to break it to you but…

You’re wrong.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1b1ud1/fused_weapon_skins/c92sf7r

This is just one of many responses when they released fused skins. 1/3~ of people from that thread agreed with me. There is SO many more responses I can link from multiple threads but it’s against forum rules to include profanity.

RNG needs to go.

I’ll follow up with a different question then: If you had said weapon skin, and sold it for 250 Gold, would you still be complaining?

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Posted by: Bubby.6475

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Wut.

I think your problem isn’t with RNG, but simply with the difficulty of obtaining said weapon skin….

I’m pretty sure you won’t be happy if they sold the skins for a flat rate of 7500 gems.

Im not happy. Thats why I made the thread….http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1314029819767.png
Its like you didnt even read the thread. People are selling it for 7500. I and many others wanted the devs 5 months ago to sell it for the same price as the winters on release day, which was 500. Now that they’re re-releasing the skins they can take it out of BLC. Its not like they CAN’T do it. They did it for wintersday.

I’ll follow up with a different question then: If you had said weapon skin, and sold it for 250 Gold, would you still be complaining?

Would I be here on the forums if I hadn’t? You’re asking really rhetorical questions now.

Devs please.

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Posted by: Smooth Penguin.5294

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Wut.

I think your problem isn’t with RNG, but simply with the difficulty of obtaining said weapon skin….

I’m pretty sure you won’t be happy if they sold the skins for a flat rate of 7500 gems.

Im not happy. Thats why I made the thread….http://www.reactionface.info/sites/default/files/imagecache/Node_Page/images/1314029819767.png
Its like you didnt even read the thread. People are selling it for 7500. I and many others wanted the devs 5 months ago to sell it for the same price as the winters on release day, which was 500. Now that they’re re-releasing the skins they can take it out of BLC. Its not like they CAN’T do it. They did it for wintersday.

I’ll follow up with a different question then: If you had said weapon skin, and sold it for 250 Gold, would you still be complaining?

Would I be here on the forums if I hadn’t? You’re asking really rhetorical questions now.

Devs please.

No, that question is completely valid. People are selling things on the Trading Post for what they feel it’s worth. On a related end, people are posting Buy Orders for what they feel it’s worth. You keep forgetting that this is an open market run by players. If I have something that another player really really wants, and not many other players have said item, do you really think I’m going to sell it cheap?

So basically, you have a few options. Either you buy one for the listed price on the TP, wait for the listed available skin prices to come down, or place a Buy Order and wait for it to be filled.

Going further, if the listed Buy Orders are still out of your acceptable price range, that means whatever value you perceive these items to be is much too low (and unacceptable to others).

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Posted by: Bubby.6475

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Look, there’s no point in arguing if I can’t convince you. You basically made a long repost of what the 2nd and 3rd posters have already said. So really there’s nothing to be said hence it’s rhetoric. You can justify all you want but 75+ people agree with me whereas there’s 3 that don’t. Im done here.

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Posted by: Smooth Penguin.5294

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Look, there’s no point in arguing if I can’t convince you. You basically made a long repost of what the 2nd and 3rd posters have already said. So really there’s nothing to be said hence it’s rhetoric. You can justify all you want but 75+ people agree with me whereas there’s 3 that don’t. Im done here.

75+ people can agree with you, but if you want a weapon skin that I’m offering, you pay my price. That, or you need to wait for one of my competitors to undercut me. That’s how the current market works.

I suggest that you let us Trading Post players compete with each other, and then watch the price stabilize. That’s what happened with the Jade skins. I’m sure with time, and more competition, prices will surely come down. But if there’s still a large discrepancy between your price and our price, then there’s nothing much else that can be done.

Edit – I just had an idea on how we can help you understand this situation. Think of us like stores. There are a few stores that have a product available for sale. The only other way you can get the product without paying Gems is to buy it from us. We (stores) want your business (Gold), so we will compete by offering the product for less than the other stores. As we have a Price War among ourselves, the prices will slowly drop. Then you can decide which store to buy it from, based on the lowest offered price.

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Posted by: Ursan.7846

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Im not happy. Thats why I made the thread….
Its like you didnt even read the thread. People are selling it for 7500. I and many others wanted the devs 5 months ago to sell it for the same price as the winters on release day, which was 500. Now that they’re re-releasing the skins they can take it out of BLC. Its not like they CAN’T do it. They did it for wintersday.

I’m not sure you read my post then. You have a problem with the difficulty of getting the Wintersday skins, not the fact that it’s RNG. That’s perfectly fine, but would you be happy if they were sold for a set price of 7500 gems? If yes, then you’re truly unhappy about RNG, and RNG only. But I doubt that is the case from your posts

…Is what I’m trying to point out, since the topic title is somewhat misleading if that’s the case.