Recent Spike in Linen Supply

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Posted by: VoxShatterfall.5470

VoxShatterfall.5470

I’ve been following the linen market (as well as other cloth) for some time as I am trying to craft a set of ascended armor.

I’m worried about the 33% increase in supply which yet doesn’t cause the buy orders to drop in price. Are people even selling to buy orders? I’m also concerned about the number of sell listings decreasing while buy listings remain about the same.

Any one else share these concerns?

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Posted by: Esplen.3940

Esplen.3940

There’s a lot larger of a supply than what’s in the TP. Always has been. Always will be (notably for an item that’s easily farmed).

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Posted by: Lamir.6702

Lamir.6702

There was a certain story step you used to be able to farm for a ridiculous amount of linen repeatedly. I don’t know if it has changed.

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

If it’s the one in Mount Maelstrom then yes.

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

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I’ve been following the linen market (as well as other cloth) for some time as I am trying to craft a set of ascended armor.

I’m worried about the 33% increase in supply which yet doesn’t cause the buy orders to drop in price. Are people even selling to buy orders? I’m also concerned about the number of sell listings decreasing while buy listings remain about the same.

Any one else share these concerns?

You are contradicting yourself.
If supply rises by 33%, the number of sell listings cant decrease.

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Posted by: VoxShatterfall.5470

VoxShatterfall.5470

Sell listings are the amount of sell orders, not the total amount of supply.

Supply is the number of total units.

So if the sell orders are decreasing, and the supply is increasing it means that each sell order has many more units per order than previously (people dumping / clumping). The 33% supply dump concerns me more than the number of sell orders. I am concerned that the linen market is greatly controlled by a few hundred who may inadvertently crash or adversely affect the linen market.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

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crafting bolt of damask is a waste so people just sell the materials to tp and noone craft it anymore

its not only linen – all cloth go down in price

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Posted by: Wanze.8410

Wanze.8410

Sell listings are the amount of sell orders, not the total amount of supply.

Supply is the number of total units.

So if the sell orders are decreasing, and the supply is increasing it means that each sell order has many more units per order than previously (people dumping / clumping). The 33% supply dump concerns me more than the number of sell orders. I am concerned that the linen market is greatly controlled by a few hundred who may inadvertently crash or adversely affect the linen market.

How do you know then that the supply in peoples banks rose by 33%?

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

crafting bolt of damask is a waste so people just sell the materials to tp and noone craft it anymore

its not only linen – all cloth go down in price

Really? A quick look at cloth prices on the TP tells me that you’d still earn an average of about 1.5 – 2g profit by crafting Damask to sell.

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Posted by: Romek.4201

Romek.4201

crafting bolt of damask is a waste so people just sell the materials to tp and noone craft it anymore

its not only linen – all cloth go down in price

Really? A quick look at cloth prices on the TP tells me that you’d still earn an average of about 1.5 – 2g profit by crafting Damask to sell.

quick look not enough
so here some quick math (just did math while writing and prices are all actual bid prices in TP)

Spool of Silk Weaving

  • 100x Bolt of Silk (bid per 8s45c) 8g45s00c
  • 1x Glob of Ectoplasm (bid 39s70c) 39s70c
  • 25x Spool of Gossamer Thread 16s
    = 9g00s70s

Bolt of Damask

  • Spool of Silk Weaving 9g00s70s
  • 20x Bolt of Wool 1g18s40c
  • 10x Bolt of Cotton 63s40c
  • 20x Bolt Linen 1g94s40c
    = 12g76s90c

Craft Cost: 12g76s90c
Sell price : 14g25s02c
TP Fee 15% 2g13s75c

Your Profit = -65s63c

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Posted by: fishball.7204

fishball.7204

It’s usually cheaper to use Scraps instead of Bolts. If you put buy orders on the scraps there’s a slight profit (~20s) but it’s not worth the time imo that might why there’s so much linen.

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Posted by: Buttercup.5871

Buttercup.5871

Salvaging for silk is even cheaper than buying scraps. A bit more work though, but not so much.

Edit: looking at the linen supply right now, back to normal. It’s probably quite hard to even dent that market in the long run.

(edited by Buttercup.5871)

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Posted by: Ayrilana.1396

Ayrilana.1396

crafting bolt of damask is a waste so people just sell the materials to tp and noone craft it anymore

its not only linen – all cloth go down in price

Really? A quick look at cloth prices on the TP tells me that you’d still earn an average of about 1.5 – 2g profit by crafting Damask to sell.

quick look not enough
so here some quick math (just did math while writing and prices are all actual bid prices in TP)

Spool of Silk Weaving

  • 100x Bolt of Silk (bid per 8s45c) 8g45s00c
  • 1x Glob of Ectoplasm (bid 39s70c) 39s70c
  • 25x Spool of Gossamer Thread 16s
    = 9g00s70s

Bolt of Damask

  • Spool of Silk Weaving 9g00s70s
  • 20x Bolt of Wool 1g18s40c
  • 10x Bolt of Cotton 63s40c
  • 20x Bolt Linen 1g94s40c
    = 12g76s90c

Craft Cost: 12g76s90c
Sell price : 14g25s02c
TP Fee 15% 2g13s75c

Your Profit = -65s63c

Your math is way off.

Spool of Silk Weaving

  • 300x Silk Scraps (bid per 2s31c) 6g93s00c
  • 1x Glob of Ectoplasm (bid 39s74c) 39s74c
  • 25x Spool of Gossamer Thread 16s
    = 7g48s74s

Bolt of Damask

  • Spool of Silk Weaving 7g48s74s
  • 40x Bolt of Wool (2s82c) 1g12s80c
  • 20x Bolt of Cotton (3s3c) 60s60c
  • 40x Bolt Linen (4s65c) 1g86s
    = 11g08s14c

Craft Cost: 11g08s14c
Sell price : 14g75s00c
TP Fee 15% 2g21s25c

Your Profit = 1g45s61c

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Posted by: nekretaal.6485

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Maybe the announced changes to drop rates spooked speculators & hoarders?

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