Guild Wars 2

“Transmutation Crystals can be directly converted into charges, and Transmutation Stones can be converted at a three-to-one rate.”

Wow. I bought a lot of Transmutation Crystals and have 200+ Stones -.-
I think they should gem refund EVERY players that bought Transmutation Crystals so they we’ll be free to re-purchase Transmutation Charges or keep the Gems and go for Stones conversion…!!!!

Think of it this way:

The Crystals you bought will work exactly the same way.

The Stones, that at one point you’ve likely complained were useless and should be allowed to toss on the Mystic Forge for Crystals, are finally gonna be able to be useful for level 80.

What makes you think you’re entitled to a refund?

Maybe transmutation charges have the same price tag as crystals?

Huh? Isn’t it going to be the same for this “Stones conversion” since they will be traded at a 3 for 1 rate?

How do you think they will charge you for Transmutation Charges? Gold? If they’re giving you a Charge for each Crystal then it should be gems, you will be able to apply 200+ style changes to your armor.

As of now I have like 60 Crystals and 180 Stones, that would mean 120 Charges which I’m more than happy to use (since I was stockpiling those Stones like crazy). This method is much better than just refunding gems, I won’t have to worry about charges for some time.

Since you know, those stones and crystals were supposed to be used for transmutation and they’re just doing the conversion to the new transmutation system…

I agree with the op people who bought Crystals should be refunded if they wish. Yes I realize that it will be a charge which is the same thing, but the stones are also going to be a charge at a 3-1 rate.

Why is it unfair well you are saying that 1 crystal = 3 stones. That’s just plain ridiculous stones are super common and crystals are not. It’s a big slap in the face to players who bought and stocked up on Transmutation crystals for their lvl 80 gear since they turn around and make it so 3 stones equals that.

It is just not cool there have been a few threads out there for asking for a way to make stones upgrade-able and everyone of them agrees that it would need a good conversation rate and that 3 or 5 stones is just not the same as one crystal.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/account/Duplicate-unused-premium-armor-skins/first#post3811729

I don’t think you’ll get a refund for this. You now have EXTRA Charges to use for future skins, meaning you’re set as far as transmutation is concerned for the foreseeable future, saving you money on future Crystal purchases. (And I say this as someone who has 150 Crystals and almost 230 Stones too.)

wtf..lol … i throw away a lot of transmutation stone (1-79)…

And that’s why we packrats refuse to throw things away. You never know if it’ll become useful down the line!

So in effect you get free transmutation crystals and you still whine for a refund?

Talk about entitlement…

Zaxares.5419:

And that’s why we packrats refuse to throw things away. You never know if it’ll become useful down the line!

^
This.

whispers “Oh, shinies!” over the piles of bloodstone/dragonite/bladeshards on mule-alts

azizul.8469:

wtf..lol … i throw away a lot of transmutation stone (1-79)…

And the hoarders win this round…..

I don’t get the request for a refund….You are going to get 1 charge for each Crystal and 1 charge for every 3 stones. Unless you have a bunch of below 80 transmutes to do, you will loose nothing and GAIN charges you never had if you hoarded your stones…..

I do still have a few characters below 80 so I’m curious to find out how ANet’s new system will handle lower level transmutes.

Brother Grimm.5176:

azizul.8469:

wtf..lol … i throw away a lot of transmutation stone (1-79)…

And the hoarders win this round…..

I don’t get the request for a refund….You are going to get 1 charge for each Crystal and 1 charge for every 3 stones. Unless you have a bunch of below 80 transmutes to do, you will loose nothing and GAIN charges you never had if you hoarded your stones…..

I do still have a few characters below 80 so I’m curious to find out how ANet’s new system will handle lower level transmutes.

Personally, I am more upset at the exchange rate. 1 Crystal does not equal 3 Stones, it should be closer to 1-5 or 1-10. Imo they should have made 1 stone = 1 charge, 1 crystal = 5 charges, all lvl 80 gear requires 5 charges to change. That way all players below lvl 80 aren’t mad and the exchange of 1-5 is fair.

LordByron.8369:

Are you sure?
So if now i have 10 crystals with wich i can change 10 pieces i ll be able to change only 2 post patch?

I said 1 crystal = 5 charges. So your 10 crystals would be 50 charges so you will still get your 10 changes.

I mean I get why they want it all to be 1 charge for everything. It’s just a bit upsetting when I see 1 Crystal = 3 Stones. I will get over it in a few months though.

I’m betting the reason they choose this ratio is because more players are skinning level 80 gear than lower level stuff so this is advantageous to them. I have nearly 150 stones from dailies and map rewards so this particular change helps me a lot. I’m not the kind of person who skins something more than once.

Brother Grimm.5176:

azizul.8469:

wtf..lol … i throw away a lot of transmutation stone (1-79)…

And the hoarders win this round…..

I through out more than 300 stones and dont regret it. I never had to buy crystals because i always had enough from other sources. I dont see how i would need more after the patch.

Refund? No.

Consider stones to charges conversion a PRIVILEGE.

Unless you think it is better to throw away your stones. Of course, you may.

Hi all,
I recently purchased some crystals (ty sale) and I have over 300 stones. I think them allowing us to actually have a use for stones is a wonderful thing and I’m really glad they did it. You don’t deserve a refund, nor do I for my crystals. We bought them for their original use, converting one skin to another. Now they are allowing you to potentially make multiple changes to multiple items for one crystal. Now they are giving you the same functionality, without destroying the original skin. I don’t see how there is any room to complain in this situation.

Thanks,
Kojin

Dean Calaway.9718:

Think of it this way:

The Crystals you bought will work exactly the same way.

The Stones, that at one point you’ve likely complained were useless and should be allowed to toss on the Mystic Forge for Crystals, are finally gonna be able to be useful for level 80.

What makes you think you’re entitled to a refund?

Will they? I use transmutation crystals to move around expensive runes on non-salvagable gear (like temple armor)? I still move runes from one piece of gear to another with the wardrobe system?

Kojin.7514:

Hi all,
I recently purchased some crystals (ty sale) and I have over 300 stones. I think them allowing us to actually have a use for stones is a wonderful thing and I’m really glad they did it. You don’t deserve a refund, nor do I for my crystals. We bought them for their original use, converting one skin to another. Now they are allowing you to potentially make multiple changes to multiple items for one crystal. I don’t see how there is any room to complain in this situation.

Thanks,
Kojin

I think you are incorrect. If you look at the screen shot it clearly shows 4 charges used to change 4 pieces of armor.

Hi Toobz,
You are correct, I misread. I still have on problem with the current situation where you retain the same value per crystal without destroying original items in the process.
Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

Kojin

Kojin.7514:

Hi Toobz,
You are correct, I misread. I still have on problem with the current situation where you retain the same value per crystal without destroying 2 items in the process.
Thank you for bringing that to my attention.

Kojin

Rats! I was hoping I was misreading it. Oh well… my only concern is what to do about expensive runes in gear that can’t be salvaged.

After two days I read all of your message and thought that in the end this will be a good feature.
For me the topic is closed :P Feel free to continue sharing your opinion if you like.