Guild Wars 2

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Ping.5739:

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Cymatoperior.5942:

I did the destroyer event chest run yesterday. There were like a hundred players involved. I got greens and blues at the end. I asked around if anyone got anything good. Only two replied that they got crap drops. If someone got all rares I expect them to yell in chat but no one did. Did rare drop rate really increase?

The megadestroyer and Arah chests did not get buffed for some reason. They still only drop blues.

Here is a list of chests that have a >90% chance of dropping a rare:

1. Jormag
2. Shatterer
3. Sunless
4. Jungle Wurm
5. Hydra Queen
6. Shadow Bohemoth
7. Maw
8. Fire Elemental
9. Grenth
10. Lyssa
11. Melendru
12. Dwayna
13. Balth

So each character can get at least 13 additional rares a day over what they could before the patch. I usually get closer to 20 a day now. I’ve gotten 100 ectos since the patch playing only casually.

90%? you must be trolling so hard or the rng on me must hates me so bad

Actually John Smith said it was actually closer to 100%. Remember the loot is scaled to your level. the near 100% chance is for a level 80, and also remember you can only loot the chest once per day, and that this is since the patch last Tuesday. After doing about 70 of the listed events I have averaged 1.3 rares per event, and have ALWAYS received at least 1 rare, not always armor, once I got a ruby orb

Confirmed. My first few boss fights before that post mainly gave me greens and blues. But I somehow started getting at least on rare from chests. Guess that was just another typical moment of rng not working on me.

Geotherma.2395:

Calae.1738:

Rebort.6295:

I would quote john quoting john but come on. He’s said if they changed it, they would tell us in the patch notes.

If the arenanet wether man tells me it’s sunny outside and I look out the window and I see rain; I’m going to take an umbrella.

I don’t really care what anyone says. I trust data from experimentation. Run the numbers yourself.

John could say anything he wants; I have no reason to believe anything he says. I fact, I have no reason to believe anything anyone says.

Then why play at all? Continuing to play only would show that you either enjoy being lied to, or simply don’t believe your own conspiracy theory. Because here in the land of facts and numbers we have answers and can take them as such. Because our $$$ is supporting this company whether or not we have our tinfoil hats on or not.

We are playing a game, not voting for the next politician. Why people take this stuff so seriously is beyond me. I imagine every lead, designer, dev has to take babysitting courses just to be allowed to post on forums. Because half the time instead of being able to post helpful information they have to be busy culling the conspiracy theories that bored people come up with in their heads.

Obviously John Smith doesn’t exist at all, I mean who really has the generic first and last names like that right? Clearly he is an undercover agent from another country, possibly planet, sent here to steal our gems through micro-transactions. He has so far evaded capture by posing as a mild mannered MMO person, but soon the jig will be up.. very soon… MISTER SMITH

Dude you’re going crazy on me. Calm down.

In the world of finance and economics it is common for people to lie and profit from other people’s ignorance. It happens everyday. You can’t trust anyone but; it doesn’t mean you can’t verify thier claims.

Take a look at how much resistance the financial industry is placing on Elizebeth Warren to create a Consumer Protection Agency against predatory financial lending institutions.

Calae.1738:

Geotherma.2395:

Calae.1738:

Rebort.6295:

I would quote john quoting john but come on. He’s said if they changed it, they would tell us in the patch notes.

If the arenanet wether man tells me it’s sunny outside and I look out the window and I see rain; I’m going to take an umbrella.

I don’t really care what anyone says. I trust data from experimentation. Run the numbers yourself.

John could say anything he wants; I have no reason to believe anything he says. I fact, I have no reason to believe anything anyone says.

Then why play at all? Continuing to play only would show that you either enjoy being lied to, or simply don’t believe your own conspiracy theory. Because here in the land of facts and numbers we have answers and can take them as such. Because our $$$ is supporting this company whether or not we have our tinfoil hats on or not.

We are playing a game, not voting for the next politician. Why people take this stuff so seriously is beyond me. I imagine every lead, designer, dev has to take babysitting courses just to be allowed to post on forums. Because half the time instead of being able to post helpful information they have to be busy culling the conspiracy theories that bored people come up with in their heads.

Obviously John Smith doesn’t exist at all, I mean who really has the generic first and last names like that right? Clearly he is an undercover agent from another country, possibly planet, sent here to steal our gems through micro-transactions. He has so far evaded capture by posing as a mild mannered MMO person, but soon the jig will be up.. very soon… MISTER SMITH

Dude you’re going crazy on me. Calm down.

In the world of finance and economics it is common for people to lie and profit from other people’s ignorance. It happens everyday. You can’t trust anyone but; it doesn’t mean you can’t verify thier claims.

Take a look at how much resistance the financial industry is placing on Elizebeth Warren to create a Consumer Protection Agency against predatory financial lending institutions.

I’m calm ^^ The difference here is, you pay, then never pay again. So really they have no purpose plotting against us heh. You never ever need to buy gems to enjoy GW2, and $60 for me anyway, isn’t enough to even worry about. I mean you can’t order delivery for less that $30 per person anymore.. My gas tank is like $70-80 ><. So I can trust a company that is an MMO far more than say a bank/lender etc. I enjoy the game and know that buying gems is entirely optional, whereas in some games you cannot even play without buying out the store.

I think its more on the person, on how they were taught budgeting and money management. If you have the money and you bought the game there’s no harm in supporting it. As for in game economy I could care less how my “hard earned” gold gets spent. Often times I’m giving away items, making events, or tossing 250 stacks of omnomberry bars to friends. I enjoy helping others and enjoy GW2 far more than any other MMO I have played.

Aside from all that its very difficult to call out a company for pixel type economic issues as we don’t have the same tools. I’ve done hundreds of different things learning my averages for just about everything. I know when drops change, I know when they are not equal. Mostly because I spent the first 12-15 hour days over 30-45 days only farming. This helped me understand the drop rate and understand my future plans for what I want to do. Currently I’m hoping to make an easter event, probably toss 40-50g on items for it. Because I know exactly how long it will take me to make that amount simply grinding and doing bosses-3-4days. I’ve posted huge drop rate info in the loot problem thread, I was the first to fraps a vet dropping nothing/dropping a loot chest with porous bones. I too understand that games have flaws, but i help constructively instead of like some people (not directed toward anyone specific) just come here to complain and yell at Arenanet after farming for 1 hour and getting no rares/exotic.

I’ve experimented with 0 MF, 30 MF, 230MF, and i know what works. Granted others may find that me grinding in a non grind game is silly, but its for the benefit of others not myself. Also for those who think I’m crazy for grinding for hours-I came from FFXI :P I love just farming, doing daily’s, chatting with guild and hosting events. Everyone has their own thing, sometimes people just need to sit back and figure out what that is-and this goes with all aspects of life.

Calae.1738:

In the world of finance and economics it is common for people to lie and profit from other people’s ignorance. It happens everyday. You can’t trust anyone but; it doesn’t mean you can’t verify thier claims

Maybe. Good thing we aren’t playing the stock market here. This is a game and there is nothing for Anet to profit on by lying to you. We already paid our $60.

Svarty.8019:

Xynn.2748:

Q:

Maybe it’s just me but with the increased loot drop, I’m afraid globs of ectoplasm are going to start dropping in price what do you guys think?

A: Supply & Demand.

Please proceed to close this thread, thanks.

If you closed every thread that could be explained away with “Supply and demand”, half the forum would be empty.

Let’s speculate:

• I think ectos should be super-cheap because they drop all the time from world bosses now. Supply increased.

• I think ectos should be expensive because they are required in nearly every top-tier recipe. Demand increased.

• I think ectos should be expensive because people are going for more than one Legendary/demi-Legendary weapon now. Demand increased.

• I think ectos should be cheaper because people are giving up on Legendary weapons because of other difficult-to-acquire components. Demand lessened.

We could go on and on. Let’s!

Oh you wanted to discuss the potential policy reasons supporting an increase or decrease in ecto pricing. In that case, your Subject line choice was terrible. You asked “are”, which is a fact based question to which the only answer is “supply and demand.” Apparently you intended to ask “Should….”.

In that case, I believe the proper policy is that high-end gear should be more accessible and that a major hurdle to Legendaries and other weapons should not be the price of a generic crafting material. Thus, I believe ectos should cost less than the 42s that they did before the loot patch. Whether the proper cost is 15s, 20s, 25s, etc. is preference, but I believe that somewhere in that 15s-25s range would be a great blend of making high-end gear still cost something significant (~2-4g for an exotic) yet not flood the market. I base my opinion on pure personal impression since I don’t actively follow the global market for ectos and their derivative products.

tick tick tick …..Market up 8 …news at 11

well actually news in general forum..dragon chests nerf sky falling in Hoelbrak and people are rushing the ecto market

Solo.9027:

its back up to 32s so far from like 24s yesterday, gg devs.

You should’ve seen this coming and stocked up. I did.

Prices could still fall a bit before the end of the month with people cramming in all the boss runs they can.

Yeah, if they take the dragon chests and CoF in one patch then it really will be gg, lol.