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Charr Armor
And look, here’s some examples of fur showing:
Kekai Kotaki got it right: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hSYrv89hXg4/UEBw_034x9I/AAAAAAAAAeY/5jaFe4YVAEI/s1600/guildwars2charr.jpg
Look at the female Charr here, much more fur showing!
http://www.arena.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/CharrDesigns.jpg
The armor needs a bit sprucing up, but that’s the right amount of fur showing.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/c/c8/%22Charr_Group%22_concept_art_2.jpg
And on a last note; male Charr were so much more handsome in the first Guildwars
More images:
http://huntersinsight.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/whitestripedcharrpv1.png
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/8/86/Charr_elementalist.jpg
MEOOW, I’m in. Also: I have a level 80 charr thief and I’m sorely dissapointed with the armour looks. There isn’t any, and I’m serious, good-looking armour. Even the t3 cultural looks stupid. I’m wearing the cof armour atm, but it just looks plain stupid cause charr don’t normally wear that much “clothes”.
I don’t think Charr themselves really care about that. Also I believe the wiki says something about the female and male charr sharing armor as well but I agree I’m not really happy with how most armor looks on my female charr either. Mostly due to clipping issues with the tail though.
I don’t see it as an issue of modesty but practicality. Charr as a race are extremely pragmatic now (and very far from the bestial Charr from GW1). Leaving a lot of fur showing leaves it open to attack, and Charr would never sacrifice that combat advantage for aesthetic reasons. So from a lore perspective, I don’t think showing a lot of fur really fits the Charr in GW2.
That said – I wouldn’t be opposed to some sets that show more fur if it was done in a fierce tribal way, rather than a ‘sexy’ way. While tribal doesn’t really fit the modern Charr I wouldn’t mind people having the choice to have armor that is more like the primitive (and revealing) garb of GW1 charr.
I will never in all of my life say meow, but I do agree with you. The fur patterns are too beautiful to keep covered.
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Charr have different view on “Sexy”
Again something against the lore. The charr females are “slaves” of males in GW1, the shamans cast them as a inferior category and not suitable with “hard work”.
It needed a lot of powerful females to show them what “fragile sex” is. Even Kala Scorchrazor.
She worked really hard to put females SIDE-BY-SIDE with males as warriors. Now someone just “used” her name and now wants to “sexify” all the hard work female charrs had.
I really don´t care for “sexy” town clothes. But female charr is as good as a male charr and her armor must be as powerful.
I don’t see it as an issue of modesty but practicality. Charr as a race are extremely pragmatic now (and very far from the bestial Charr from GW1). Leaving a lot of fur showing leaves it open to attack, and Charr would never sacrifice that combat advantage for aesthetic reasons. So from a lore perspective, I don’t think showing a lot of fur really fits the Charr in GW2.
That said – I wouldn’t be opposed to some sets that show more fur if it was done in a fierce tribal way, rather than a ‘sexy’ way. While tribal doesn’t really fit the modern Charr I wouldn’t mind people having the choice to have armor that is more like the primitive (and revealing) garb of GW1 charr.
About the ‘combat advantage’ when wearing clothes: not really. For example a light-armour class doesn’t need all these robes, cause one would slice through them as easily as if they had no clothes at all. The same counts for a lot of medium armour sets, that look like they are robes.
Again something against the lore. The charr females are “slaves” of males in GW1, the shamans cast them as a inferior category and not suitable with “hard work”.
It needed a lot of powerful females to show them what “fragile sex” is. Even Kala Scorchrazor.
She worked really hard to put females SIDE-BY-SIDE with males as warriors. Now someone just “used” her name and now wants to “sexify” all the hard work female charrs had.
I really don´t care for “sexy” town clothes. But female charr is as good as a male charr and her armor must be as powerful.
I strongly support arenanet’s decision to have female and male charr wear the same clothing, because I am sick of females being portrayed in a sexist way. So, I agree with you. However, you are missing the point. The OP worded her request poorly, so let me explain it to you:
The OP is not asking for sexy female armor, or female armor which is different from male armor. The OP is asking, quite simply, for armor that shows the pretty fur patterns of the charr. She mentions female charr specifically, because she has female charr for characters, and not male charr. However, if you read her post, she clearly states that she also wants the same added for male charr as well.
My opinion on the matter is yes, charr in general need armor that is more suited to their unique bodies. It needs to fit their shape properly, and it needs to show their fur, because when we created our charr their fur pattern was part of what made them special.
@weindrasi
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So if the OP just want to see the fur patterns using the topic name like this to call more attention is a deprecable way to do something. It´s a “look at me” kitten attention post then. For me looking at this type of topic name and all the talk about how humans, norn and sylvary has those “skimpy” clothes… I stopped to read right there.
So if I´m wrong, sorry. But people need to make better topic names and learn to go to the point from the beggining and explain after instead of leave the real point to the end of the post.
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And look, here’s some examples of fur showing:
Kekai Kotaki got it right: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-hSYrv89hXg4/UEBw_034x9I/AAAAAAAAAeY/5jaFe4YVAEI/s1600/guildwars2charr.jpgLook at the female Charr here, much more fur showing!
http://www.arena.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/CharrDesigns.jpgThe armor needs a bit sprucing up, but that’s the right amount of fur showing.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/c/c8/%22Charr_Group%22_concept_art_2.jpgAnd on a last note; male Charr were so much more handsome in the first Guildwars
More images:
http://huntersinsight.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/whitestripedcharrpv1.png
http://wiki.guildwars.com/images/8/86/Charr_elementalist.jpg
That female charr armor in that gallery is amazing! I would kill for that armor!
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~I could promise you the same…but it would be a lie…
I always wanted some barbarian armors for charr so you can see the fur :/
That’s prety much it why I don’t have a charr yet.
There’s prolly an armor like that at lvl 80 but for now I go for making my other characters lvl 80
We can get all crazy on the sexist or not topic, but at the end of the day this thread is about armor choices. The OP would like armor to show off her fur. When you look at the current Char Armor Options, the word Options does not belong. They are for the most part one style.
This thing about equality and such can really get out of hand. The simple matter is that some females prefer to show their fur/skin. Some males prefer to make female characters with skin/fur showing. Every other race has better options for people like this. Why can’t the Char? Several images have been posted as a great starting point. Just like the other races should (and mostly do) have better conservative clothing, the Char should have better revealing clothing.
Giving women choice is supposed to be the key point of equality. To simply replace what the ‘Male Shamans’ of the past made of women to what the ‘Female Shamans’ of present want of women is not choice, it is the same slavery. Set them all free and let them wear whatever styles they want.
I’m not opposed to the OP’s suggestion, as long as there are also heavy, bulky armor types as well. I rather like being a walking, tin-plated giant cat. XD (Plus, my male Charr has no fur markings at all save for a few orange-tufts on his chest and face.)
i support :P nothing like sexy beasts
I wouldn’t say there’s a lot of it, but I’m pretty sure you can get ‘no armour’ armours.
I would definitively would get behind this. The charr anatomy and lore offers a potential for a great deal of creativity for possible armor sets that would be more suited than the ones currently in game. The art gallery shown above are great samples of this.
Unfortunately, for wherever reason a very lazy approach was taken when modeling for the charr. I wonder why this was the case
I do hope that here are more armor designed for Charr that are “skimpy”. I spent a fair amount of time getting the fur pattern that I liked and it’s completely covered up. Since this is not real life, not all of the armor needs to be realistic and suited for real life battles. It could be loin cloths, chest straps and armbands, having the same stats and showing off the fur.
The problem with the Charr armor is just part of an overall problem with armor in this game, that is, lack of variation. When they designed the armor in Guild Wars 2, it feels like each class had a template and the most of the armor was designed around that. Long skirts with the front open for light. Long dusters for medium, and typical heavy armor for heavy. There are a (very) few exceptions, but overall the armor within each class has the same silhouette.
I strongly support arenanet’s decision to have female and male charr wear the same clothing, because I am sick of females being portrayed in a sexist way. So, I agree with you. However, you are missing the point. The OP worded her request poorly, so let me explain it to you:
The OP is not asking for sexy female armor, or female armor which is different from male armor. The OP is asking, quite simply, for armor that shows the pretty fur patterns of the charr. She mentions female charr specifically, because she has female charr for characters, and not male charr. However, if you read her post, she clearly states that she also wants the same added for male charr as well.
My opinion on the matter is yes, charr in general need armor that is more suited to their unique bodies. It needs to fit their shape properly, and it needs to show their fur, because when we created our charr their fur pattern was part of what made them special.
Yes, Thank you, sorry I worded it wrong or in a way that made people angry. Sorry ANet if I offended anyone. I just wanted to explain my frustrations. It is true that I would make my humans wear conservative outfits, but that’s my style which I’m entitled too. But I would like some armor styles that I could show off my Charr’s beautiful fur patterns. Like some of you said, our armor selections are boring, and I’ve already been through the Charr lvl 80 armor on all the sites I can find and they all look the same. I haven’t found any with enough fur showing. The best thing I found was a gladiator type armor that basically makes your character clothes less, but it’s not really beautiful. I just want more selection of armor.
There should be a little more variety to cultural armour in that respect. Typical charr armour with rags that show the fur, typical norn armour that shows tattoos. Charr are still pretty ‘savage’ in their ways, although they have very developed mechanisms, they are still rather blunt in their conversations and habits, growl, scratch, bite.
1. Don’t mess with my heavy armor. I mean it. Remove that editting finger or I’ll bite it off!
2. There are several sets in the game that expose the fur, I would suggest you look them up.
3. What Caledore said….. x10.
I don’t see it as an issue of modesty but practicality. Charr as a race are extremely pragmatic now (and very far from the bestial Charr from GW1). Leaving a lot of fur showing leaves it open to attack, and Charr would never sacrifice that combat advantage for aesthetic reasons. So from a lore perspective, I don’t think showing a lot of fur really fits the Charr in GW2.
It isn’t pragmatic to wear clothes don’t fit either. Anet doesn’t care about lore in regard to armor. Please show me the lore that states how charr have an affinity for tail clipping and giant, stretched shoes that don’t fit. The lore and pragmatism arguments didn’t result in quality armor, but those same arguments should be used as a reason against aesthetic diversity? The very principle and logic behind that idea is almost infuriating.
Did you miss the part where I said “That said – I wouldn’t be opposed to some sets that show more fur if it was done in a fierce tribal way, rather than a ‘sexy’ way.”?
I am all for more choices, even if it doesn’t exactly fit lore. And I never said the current sets do, either – in fact I hate how they just stretched and transported armors onto the Charr with no thought on how it looks or the horrid clipping issues. I love Charr but my biggest problem with them is how horrible most armor looks on them.
I’d rather see new, more appropriate armor sets for Charr before ‘skimpier’ tribal-esque sets, but I am still not against them entirely, as I stated in my post. I’d ask that you read my entire post rather than cherry-pick part of it.
I don’t see it as an issue of modesty but practicality. Charr as a race are extremely pragmatic now (and very far from the bestial Charr from GW1). Leaving a lot of fur showing leaves it open to attack, and Charr would never sacrifice that combat advantage for aesthetic reasons. So from a lore perspective, I don’t think showing a lot of fur really fits the Charr in GW2.
It isn’t pragmatic to wear clothes don’t fit either. Anet doesn’t care about lore in regard to armor. Please show me the lore that states how charr have an affinity for tail clipping and giant, stretched shoes that don’t fit. The lore and pragmatism arguments didn’t result in quality armor, but those same arguments should be used as a reason against aesthetic diversity? The very principle and logic behind that idea is almost infuriating.
Clipping and stretching is a limitation of the game engine, not lore. Get a better argument.
Isn’t this just because charr get goofy stretched human armor?
Did you miss the part where I said “That said – I wouldn’t be opposed to some sets that show more fur if it was done in a fierce tribal way, rather than a ‘sexy’ way.”?
I am all for more choices, even if it doesn’t exactly fit lore. And I never said the current sets do, either – in fact I hate how they just stretched and transported armors onto the Charr with no thought on how it looks or the horrid clipping issues. I love Charr but my biggest problem with them is how horrible most armor looks on them.
Saying you’re ok with something doesn’t mean an argument you use against it can’t be illogical. If current armor has nothing to do with lore or pragmatism, why should any new or redesigned armor?
Clipping and stretching is a limitation of the game engine, not lore. Get a better argument.
You missed my argument, so I don’t think you’re qualified to comment on its quality. Also, clipping is an issue with how much work and resources Anet wanted to devote to charr armor. They have shown to be capable of making charr armor without clipping and terrible footwear. I don’t know anything about game design, but I am capable of recognizing when results can be replicated consistently. If they dealt with the limitations for cultural armor and a few other sets, they could have done the same thing for other armor.
Did you miss the part where I said “That said – I wouldn’t be opposed to some sets that show more fur if it was done in a fierce tribal way, rather than a ‘sexy’ way.”?
I am all for more choices, even if it doesn’t exactly fit lore. And I never said the current sets do, either – in fact I hate how they just stretched and transported armors onto the Charr with no thought on how it looks or the horrid clipping issues. I love Charr but my biggest problem with them is how horrible most armor looks on them.
Saying you’re ok with something doesn’t mean an argument you use against it can’t be illogical. If current armor has nothing to do with lore or pragmatism, why should any new or redesigned armor?
Pretty simple, because a lot of people would prefer more lore friendly armors that fit well on Charr, as most of the current skins in this game aren’t designed for Charr. One of the biggest complaints about Charr seems to be how ill-fitting the current sets are for Charr. It would increase the appeal of the race by designing new armor skins more suitable for them.
There are some armor sets that look decent on Charr, particularly the cultural armor, but I’d like to see more. I really wish cultural armor was more the norm than just having a few sets. I look at WAR as a good example of this; each race and class had completely different looks. I’d rather Charr (and other races, for that matter) have their own unique armor skins than ported and stretched from a base model designed for humans.
That’s not what we got – no doubt due to how many more resources that would take – but I am hopeful that we’ll get some armor sets in the future that are more unique and lore-friendly to a particular race in the vein of cultural armor.
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Did you miss the part where I said “That said – I wouldn’t be opposed to some sets that show more fur if it was done in a fierce tribal way, rather than a ‘sexy’ way.”?
I am all for more choices, even if it doesn’t exactly fit lore. And I never said the current sets do, either – in fact I hate how they just stretched and transported armors onto the Charr with no thought on how it looks or the horrid clipping issues. I love Charr but my biggest problem with them is how horrible most armor looks on them.
Saying you’re ok with something doesn’t mean an argument you use against it can’t be illogical. If current armor has nothing to do with lore or pragmatism, why should any new or redesigned armor?
Clipping and stretching is a limitation of the game engine, not lore. Get a better argument.
You missed my argument, so I don’t think you’re qualified to comment on its quality. Also, clipping is an issue with how much work and resources Anet wanted to devote to charr armor. They have shown to be capable of making charr armor without clipping and terrible footwear. I don’t know anything about game design, but I am capable of recognizing when results can be replicated consistently. If they dealt with the limitations for cultural armor and a few other sets, they could have done the same thing for other armor.
Actually no, I didn’t miss the point. You were using clipping and stretching as a means to refute Caledore’s claim to lore and how practical Charr armor is in its current state, ie armor covering the body. In actuality, your point didn’t really refute what he was stating at all. It simply complained that clipping and stretching is bad. And you further fortify this point with your reply to me above.
I’ll repeat, lore has nothing to do with how badly an armor is made in a 3d modeling program if the original intention was to match lore. The design is there and match what Caledore stated. The results came out looking bad. What it has to do with is that the modeler got lazy or hasty, or there are game engine limitations, both of whichI should have stated in my first reply to you. Engine limitation is not the only problem, modeler laziness or time limits are also an issue. Some of the armor you see in the game is just this. The problematic ones have a rushed feel to them.
Again, this has nothing to do with lore.
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Isn’t this just because charr get goofy stretched human armor?
Lolol You know about it!
I think Charr armor needs to be redone. This is honestly the biggest problem with them right now and also why they’re the least played race. It’s sad because theoretically Charr are my favorite race but I’m so reluctant to play them because I will never get one to look good. =(
This is my favorite armor for Charr right now without the absurd helm.
http://www.gw2armor.com/charr/male/named/heavy/display_looks.php
The less armor Charr wear, the better they look.
Yup agreed because I want to show more fur like how some of females and males have their armor. I say the same goes for Asuras since it can’t be all one sided ya know. Skimpy armor ftw thnx
For agree that furr should be shown , Therefore they could make a savage armor set. But i do not see why you mix in sexism, as many has stated charrs are no longer blind savages that worships anything they can, And i do belive that medium armor looks rediculus on charrs since pretty much ALL MEDIUM ARMORS ARE COATS ! And the coat mechanics dosen’t go at all well with the charr physics.
Why were so many people making this about gender? Both male and female Charr have an issue…
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I agree with this post on more revealing armor for Charr to show off their fur. My character is a Guardian so their are a few sets that are revealing however, I am disappointed with the lack of options of revealing armor in general (especially medium armors). Since I play a Charr I found the most revealing armor set I could find and I’m loving it.
They shouldn’t just make revealing armor for Charr but also more armor that fits Charr in general (Cultural armor is good so far). Most of the armors in the game are stretched from Humans and look terrible on Charr. Hopefully when they fix the bugs and more important things in the game, they will focus on giving more pleasing skins for Charr to wear.
Here’s my Charr so far (It’s the pit-fighter set with T2 Helm.)
I think a lot of us agree that we would like to see a more well rounded selection when it comes to Charr armor. Some want to show their fur, some want to over up with their awesome heavy metal armors. No one wants them to change all the armor, but simply stated, a lot of the medium and light armors don’t fit very well, and frankly make the Charr look soft, not ferocious. Almost as if they are being domesticated by the humans. o.O
Any Charr would slap someone for even ‘suggesting’ that, so why are they wearing clothes that don’t fit their personality. They don’t have to change the armor, but at least fix clipping issues and give us a wider selection on types of armors. For instance, most light armors look like robes, but those poor thiefs look silly in robes. (Any Charr looks silly in a robe or coat in my opinion… Robes and coats compliment human anatomy well, but they certainly don’t do any favors to the Charr.)
Here’s my Charr so far (It’s the pit-fighter set with T2 Helm.)
That armor looks cool, but I don’t like it on my Charr characters. I want something more charr-like or that shows off fur.
Look at the list of exotic light armors on this website…
http://www.gw2armor.com/charr/female/light_list.php
Most of the Charr, (in my opinion) look like they are going to a human costume party…
The hood for Devout armor is awesome, but the skirt-like part of a lot of Charr armor just looks… unfitting. If Charr are being practical, why would they wear something that hangs off their body, especially when they tend to run on all fours….
Don’t get me wrong, some of the skirts look okay, but they at best look ordinary, what’s up with that for ‘exotic’ armor?
I also like the headpiece for the Cultural tier three light armor, but I don’t like the rest. I think the biggest reasons are that i don’t like how the armor is fitted (skirts….ew) and they don’t show off the fur patterns I spent so much time making in the beginning. If I can’t show off my fur, then what am I but an animal in human’s clothing.
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Just modifying the armor so that the tail comes out naturally would be such an improvement, but that’s not nearly enough.
I think a lot of us agree that we would like to see a more well rounded selection when it comes to Charr armor. Some want to show their fur, some want to over up with their awesome heavy metal armors. No one wants them to change all the armor, but simply stated, a lot of the medium and light armors don’t fit very well, and frankly make the Charr look soft, not ferocious. Almost as if they are being domesticated by the humans. o.O
Well when you put it that way…they’re kind of domesticated by the humans anyway….{points at the model designers for charr armors}
Well when you put it that way…they’re kind of domesticated by the humans anyway….{points at the model designers for charr armors}
Ha ha. True. They even got rid of the Charr’s shoulder horns.
My main is Charr warrior. I love my tiger very much. He is soooo cute. xD
And I agree that we have very few good looking armors. The rest look like they were made not for charr and that’s true (I’m talking not only about heavy, but medium and light as well, for both genders).
About heavy armors, personally I like more closed armors (like T1 Cultural heavy armor for example), than half open. But, I don’t mind if arena will add half open armors too. I would like to have more closed armors in a future as well.
About half open armors. I don’t like what we have at the moment. Imo, they look horrible on charr. Because they are not for charr. If we are talking about half open armors for Charr, I’d prefer something like on arts below.
I’m talking about heavy armors on third art (cause my charr is a warrior ^^). It looks so awesome! Why don’t we have them in game? These half open armors I would collect, they are for charr and they look very good on charr. (especially two of them, from left to right). Look at their helmets. It’s incredible!!! Epic looking! Arena must add these armors to the game! xD
On a second art, the charr in the middle, with heavy helmet, hands, legs, but naked chest, is gorges. His armor looks like gladiator armor, only in charr theme, which is unusual and exiting! It looks so cool, that I would add it too, if we had it in the game.
I would love to see such half naked armors for charr in a future. I don’t know, maybe Arena should add in game shop some charr armors from GW1? Like they did it with human armors. I think it’s a good idea.
And I hope, we’ll see in the game heavy armor for charr like on last art (the lowest). I don’t understand, why don’t we have it. But I hope we will.
What regard to not heavy on arts below, they look very good as well, and I would like to see such half naked armors for light and medium armors. And of course closed armors too.
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I am a female gaurdian charr with a strong noble look – Yes I gave myself a lioness look and colour. The problem is that I look like a bulky ballarina in the pants availible for my heavy class, I feel degraded by this cause I cannot find pants that justifies me and my nobleness.
(I have taken a look at light and medium armour and they both have same problem aswell – the look of something blowing air or invisible fat that keeps armour puffing out unaturally)
The only helmet I ever liked is the T3 cultural head piece, its mean and its charr – but there is no other than just that one, rest looks like a type of pan on ur head. Shoulder pieces are majority TOO bulky, too few choices yet again if you dont want to exist purely out of your shoulder piece (need more pieces the size of T3 shoulders on the female that is, not sure about male)
I personally dnt want to show my fur too much cause I didnt create her for that look, but then again I would love for my tiger female charr to show of her stripes and yes there are so many awesome looking charr that just get ruined by their armour.
I would beg for more choices for charr armour, please get rid of the skirt esp the puffing. Please bring chioces where we can choose to:
*Show more fur
*Look more noble
*Look more fierce
*Be more Primal
*Be modern
We are charr and we need to be proud, so pls give us armour to be proud of
that concept art of 3 charr on the brown background is awesome. yes we need this armour.
I just got my first character to level 80, a Charr warrior. I never really spent much time looking at the armor before getting to level 80, but now that I have, I have to say, I’m actually a fan of most of the heavy armor – even if it sometimes appears stretched. It’s the medium and light armor that’s the problem for me. Losing the coats and skirts would be a big step in the right direction.
As a warrior, The heavy armor isn’t out of context. But I’d love to have some options to show more fur, since I spent a good 10+ minutes creating my charr to sport a beautiful leopard pattern. Maybe have some more gladiator styles, like the pit fighter set.
If we are talking about some kind of gladiator sets, I’d like to see more “Charr style” armor, instead of “human” like what we have right now.
I’m very new, so I dont think Ive seen all of the armors yet the games offers but
when I picked Charr I expected to look at least SOMEWHAT like the guys on the concept art. I havent seen anything like that beside maybe one or so light sets
Barechested Awesomeness with bits of torn cloth and sharp metal, instead my Engineer is running around in leather long-coats
http://images.vg247.com/current//2011/04/CharrBandits.jpg
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/images/archive/c/cb/20110617233745!Flame_Lord_concept_art.jpg
http://huntersinsight.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/charrgunner1.jpg
http://www.blisteredthumbs.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/CharrHellbringer.jpg
http://www.3dtotal.com/pages/interviews/kekai_kotaki/images/large_images/image_10_charr_cannon.jpg
http://www.tentonhammer.com/image/view/87225/preview
http://25.media.tumblr.com/93b355ed3f85feaf0905c5db44954e7c/tumblr_mk8c4n2dhE1rtdsh3o7_1280.jpg
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We should be able to hide all kinds of armorparts, they’ve done it with the gloves last patch now my fierce charrs wait for hideable chestpieces
Why not use a pitfighter chest if you want to show off your fur? that’s pretty near nothing but a couple of leather straps.