Guild Wars 2

Was there a change to the salvage rate for getting ectos off of 70+ rares?

My results have dipped significantly since the patch. I understand variance, but this was enough to warrant at least some cursory investigation.

I’ve seen no difference. Could you give a bit more detail? I’ve always gotten 0-3 off of yellows, 1 most commonly, and 0-5 off of exotics. My rate of break down seems the same as always.

Still getting plenty of ectos off my salvages.

around 21 ectos from 19 crafted lvl 80 rares earlier this afternoon. using master kit & approx. 110ish MF (call it superstition)

Hey Linsey could you clarify for me please if it’s true or not that ectos have the same chance of being salvaged regardless of what kit is being used as they’re a trophy not a “rare crafting material”?

my ecto “luck” seems a bit off since the patch as well.

My recent salvages have been in line with expectations.

Are you sure?

I went from getting 1-3 ecto (using master, and black lion kits) and literally in the last little less then a week, went to having 1 out of 6 give me an ecto.

I tend to average a 1-1 ratio over a broad number of salvages, I’ll have to test again later.

Bet there is DR on salvage also All hail the almighty DR

There’s a DR on probably everything, including the chances of rare item gain from salvaging or loot bag opening. But all is well because it’s there to stop those duplicitous kind of bots and exploiters that make suspicious cackling noises and twirl their moustaches while giving a grandiose monologue about their gold making schemes. Except that it’s to stop everyone but those people.

Thanks Linsey for the verify.

Please if you have a few moments comment on this thread https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/support/bugs/Ori-nodes-not-showing-up-as-minable-Friend-showed-me-spawns-I-see-a-ruined-base-like-I-mined-it-but-I-haven-t-can-mine-2-out-of-5/page/4

Specifically this question from this post please:

I don’t even care about a detailed response… I don’t need reasons or explainations… All I’d like is one person with the little symbol next to their name to give me a one word yes or no answer to this question:

Is this an intended change?

If yes, we can all begrudgingly accept our fates, complain for a while, then get on with our lives. If no, we can all rest easy knowing it will be fixed…. Just a single word from the devs or someone at a.net.

And on the bright side it wasn’t a total loss, as I did get a very valuable 6 total mithril, from the 4 rare lvl 75-80 weapons, and the two lvl 80 rare armor pieces netted 2 silk scraps, and a leather piece. Not a total loss compared to the 1.3 gold I could have sold the 5 at…. òó

I think I’ll save up the next 44 or so, as instead of getting 30 mithril, and 12 pieces of silk, I’ll make a video of my 50 or so tries to get some random legendary thing out of the lottery forge. =Þ I think I’ll have better odds. Maybe ‘better’ isn’t the right word, as less terrible.

Actually, I once did a testing after the patch with loot bags to see if DR started affecting them as well. Circled between a few Flame Legion oriented events in Plains of Ashford and didn’t stop until I had 250 Tiny Loot Bag. I logged off and didn’t open them till the next day to stop an already accumulated loot DR affecting the statistics.

Kept a screenshot of the result. 250 Tiny Loot Bags amounted to the following: 173 butter, 95 rawhide piece, 51 jute scrap, 34 bone chip, 17 tiny totem, 28 vial of weak blood, 4 crystal sliver and 2 molten sliver. The thing is that after the 50th bag, good loot started getting scarce and after the 100th bag I was getting nothing but butter, rawhide and the occasional bone chip or two. It was a noticable drop and a big one at that.

So if the DR affects loot bag item gain chances, I don’t see why it wouldn’t affect salvaging item gain chances as well.

I think the most I’ve ever gotten from a salvage was 2. And that was only once.

What salvaging kit are you using? I am using Fine and I’m having no problems.

well i believe theres either been a stealth DR system applied to ectos or it isn’t working unintended. always using mystic salvage kits for the past few weeks i’ve always salvaged rares in 20+ batches. i’ve salvaged over 800 rares and i’ve ALWAYs gotten 0.7-0.9 ectos per rare on average. swear i never hit below 0.7 i would have to be lucky to get 40+ ectos from 40 rares. . this morning i salvaged 50 rares that i bought overnight and got 47 ectos. then 3 hours later i salvaged a 30 batch and ended up with 15 ectos, 1 hour after that started another batch got 9 ectos opening from opening my first 17, then i just stopped cause cause i felt the same cold streak chill you notice when you notice the DR kicking in from mob loot

Hello, negligible statistical significance.

Next we’ll be getting someone come and say “I salvaged a rare level 80 item today, but I didn’t get any ectos at all. It must have been the diminishing returns!”

If you salvaged, let’s say 30000 rares, and get 0.5 ecto:item ratio, that would be usefull data. Anything below – it’s how math works (rng in that case), deal with it.

Salvaged my first item yesterday with a BLSK got me 2 ectos.

I’m at 2 ectos / 6 salvages, using a BL kit. I’m really not sure whether I should continue salvaging or cut my losses and sell them, right now I’d even be glad if I could break even [price of kit + what I would have gotten for rares].

Mekboss.5069:

I’m at 2 ectos / 6 salvages, using a BL kit. I’m really not sure whether I should continue salvaging or cut my losses and sell them, right now I’d even be glad if I could break even [price of kit + what I would have gotten for rares].

I’ve been getting multiple ectos salvaging with basic kits, for what it’s worth. Linsey hasn’t confirmed that they have the same drop rate due to them being trophies not rare crafting materials but empirical evidence would suggest that this is the case.

I don’t even know if it’s a bug or anything.. I’d like some official word on it.

Cisza.9540:

If you salvaged, let’s say 30000 rares, and get 0.5 ecto:item ratio, that would be usefull data. Anything below – it’s how math works (rng in that case), deal with it.

1000 is a big enough sample as far as statistics are concerned in such case.

I would like to chime in here:

I’ve always used black lion kits on yellows, even when the text said 10% chance at rare mats, because even though the masters said 25%, I always got results with the B.L.kit. Its very rare I get 0 ecto from a salvage of an 80 rare item, normally getting 1, sometimes 2 and very rarely 3 (about as rare as getting 0)

The last 2 days however, the rate of ecto per salvage has been dreadful. no, I have no hard figures, because I figured I was just being unlucky as far as rng goes, but I’ve just salvaged 8 80 rares in a row with a black lion kit, and got nothing but elder wood and sigils, I’ve never before in the game gone 2 salvages without an ecto drop.

Maybe its the black lion kits not working as intended?

and linsey’s response says nothing regarding the possibly whether the DR system could affect salvaging. all she responded to are the initial rates.

I used a black lion kit on a lvl 76 yellow armor and got no ectos. Is that normally possible?

Yes Black lion kit only gives you a 50% chance at rarer materials such as ecto. I don’t know about you guys but i’m average 2-3 ecto per salvage of yellows. I just salvaged 10 yellow’s and came out with 17 ecto.

I still went from 95% down to like 15-25%. Interesting…

Further to last nights (end of the day) salvaging of 8 rares for 0 ecto, I just logged in for a new days play and salvaged another 8 rares (all level 80) that I’d saved up after yesterdays dissappointment.

I got a much better return of 7 ectos from the 8 rares, 2 produced 0 ecto, but 1 produced 2 ecto.

So start of the day, I get roughly what I would expect, end of the day I dont.
I think DR has reared its ugly head.

I went 0/12 (6 exotics, 6 rares) on Ectos as well yesterday afternoon, after getting like ~10 (out of 9 salvages, 1 yielded 0) in the morning. Smells a lot like DR to me.

Hador.2753:

I went 0/12 (6 exotics, 6 rares) on Ectos as well yesterday afternoon, after getting like ~10 (out of 9 salvages, 1 yielded 0) in the morning. Smells a lot like DR to me.

Just out of curiosity, why are you salvaging exotics?

Celestea.4105:

Hador.2753:

I went 0/12 (6 exotics, 6 rares) on Ectos as well yesterday afternoon, after getting like ~10 (out of 9 salvages, 1 yielded 0) in the morning. Smells a lot like DR to me.

Just out of curiosity, why are you salvaging exotics?

I know you’re asking someone else, but I do 3 dungeons daily – that’s 9 paths, each path takes about 20 mins, so all in all it’s 3 hours give or take. For each dungeon done you get about 80 silver reward for completing + all you take on your way. The other reward is 180 tokens – which is the cost of helmet. I do not need tokens anymore, so I just buy 3 heads after we’re done in dungeons, and salvaged them for few ectos.

Those helmets aren’t exotic though, if you are purchasing the ones that are 30 tokens, they are rares.

got about 10 ectos from around 35 rares today. seems not only me. i’ve been getting a consistent 0.9:1 ratio more or less always, except today

@Cel
As I wrote – I buy then for 180 tokens each, so pretty easy to understant they are exotics.

It doesnt matter if you salvage exotics or rares, all have the same chance to yield 0-3 ectos.

Exotics can yield up to 5, with higher chance on 1-2 than rares.

I never got 4 or 5 from an exotic and on average the same yield as from rares. I use the 15s salvage kit.

I always use Black Lion (got like 50 when leveling a month ago, pribably some bug, coz 2 weeks ago started an alt and got barely 2 on my way from 1 to 80 level), so maybe that’s the case? It has never been explained by AN how Salvage Kits work, and every tests ppl do show different results (completely chaotic I’d dare to say).

I often dont understand what Anet is trying to achieve with so much mystery.

Malediktus.9250:

I often dont understand what Anet is trying to achieve with so much mystery.

+1

Cisza.9540:

Exotics can yield up to 5, with higher chance on 1-2 than rares.

That’s interesting. I’ve never seen someone get 5 ecto from an exotic, I guess it’s because nobody has dared to try so, besides you.

Celestea.4105:

Cisza.9540:

Exotics can yield up to 5, with higher chance on 1-2 than rares.

That’s interesting. I’ve never seen someone get 5 ecto from an exotic, I guess it’s because nobody has dared to try so, besides you.

…and many of my guildies. I was farming (stopped eventually) Onyx Cores/Lodestones I need for Twilight, I got about 4k TA tokens – why would I let them dust in my bank if I can just turn them to money? I’m sure – completely sure – I’m not the only one doing this.

It seems like the rares would be a better deal, though, given that you can get 6 rares for the cost of an exotic.

You can get actually up to 6 with exotics. I’ve gotten lucky once (and only once) doing that.

That or it was a bug.

lackofcheese.5617:

It seems like the rares would be a better deal, though, given that you can get 6 rares for the cost of an exotic.

TA rares are level 45. AC, CM even lower.
For CoF, CoE, HoW – sure, I buy rares, but for other dungeons it must be exotics.

Ah, that makes sense. Thanks for the information.

I’ve salvaged 2 exotics and got 3 ectos from each.

@Cisza, yea that makes perfect sense, now that you explained it. How many onyx lodestones did you average after all your TA runs?