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Posted by: Salari.2349

Salari.2349

I am honestly reaching the end of my tether. I’ve been trying to craft The Bifrost for the longest time now, and I’m nearly at the point where I just want to give up.

Where are things going so wrong? Well, there’s a few problems:

1. The precursor. The Legend is for some reason the most expensive precursor on the TP right now, and that doesn’t seem to be changing. Even the buy orders are 100g shy of the highest seller. Last I checked the highest seller is around 1100g, and that price hasn’t gone below 1000g over the past couple of months. It’s getting absurd. And as for forging it, forget about it. Terrible luck from rares, and from exotics (also, throwing 4 level 80 exotics into the forge shouldn’t produce a level 75 exotic, it’s not fair at all).

2. T6 materials. Asides from spending all my laurels on heavy crafting bags, spending festival tokens and Mystic Clover forging (thanks for all that wonderful leather, by the way, I nearly got a silver by selling those -sarcasm-), there is no solid way to get them other than the TP, where – unsurprisingly – the prices are ridiculous. Powerful blood is now over 50s each, and that’s just for one material of the 8 needed. If you buy the T6 mats, the cost for all will more than likely exceed the cost of the precursor.

Now you may think “why don’t you just promote T5 materials into T6 with the Mystic Toilet?” I would, in any other circumstances, but with the Bifrost, I need a whole 500 Crystalline Dust, ANOTHER material which has a terrible drop rate, so until I get those, I can’t consider using 5 of them at a time. Any other Legendary, this isn’t a big problem, but with the Bifrost, it is.

The quest for my legendary has hit a wall, and it was the only thing keeping me playing. I know many others will have been in the same position, and felt the same way, and as easy it is to say I can buy all these mats on the TP, it isn’t easy to do. Heck, if I had the precursor or had any means to get it other than luck, I could happily blow all my cash on the TP to get materials, but wouldn’t it be more fair to make materials more obtainable, rather than having this ridiculously low drop rate? I even thought that with the festival coming back, there may be a chance to get easy T6 mats again, but since it’s 300 tokens for one bag, that means I’d have to spend hours doing the same two events seven times in order to get three materials. Correct me if I’m wrong, but that’s boring.

That’s how I feel about Legendary crafting, and frankly, I’m about done with the game. It was the only thing keeping me playing, and due to the unreasonable barriers, I feel it may be why I stop.

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Posted by: wads.5730

wads.5730

can i have your stuff plox

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

1. If crafting Bifrost was your only reason for playing, you should have quit a long time ago.
2. Crafting a Legendary should be a long term goal, not a short term, and if you treat it that way, those “unreasonable” barriers would be viewed as milestones in the journey.
3. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
4. Can I have your stuff?

“Be like water” – Bruce Lee

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Posted by: Salari.2349

Salari.2349

1. If crafting Bifrost was your only reason for playing, you should have quit a long time ago.
2. Crafting a Legendary should be a long term goal, not a short term, and if you treat it that way, those “unreasonable” barriers would be viewed as milestones in the journey.
3. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
4. Can I have your stuff?

Well, as… constructive as your advice is, I’m going to have to pass. People have their reasons for playing, making the legendary was mine, and you’re not one to say why I should be playing. No one is. As for it being a long term goal, you have no idea how long I’ve been making it, so you can’t pass judgement on whether I’ve been trying long enough (FYI over a year, long enough for you?).

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Posted by: Holion.5604

Holion.5604

If you spent more than 3 months making it, then your doing something wrong.

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Posted by: Himei.5379

Himei.5379

I would step back and take a look at how you play. I work, play for about 2-4 hours a night except on my days off (about 5-7 hours total for that day) and managed to get 4 legendaries (5 if i didnt want to get some foefire weapons). I dont farm much, I dont run dungeons everyday (last time I was in a dungeon was 8 days ago) yet I managed to get 4 in 1 year while you can’t even get 1? Learn to play efficient, learn to know what sells, heck, learn that you can get Crystalline Dust from Salvaging Ectos, one of the easiest T6 mat to get.

I DONT know your play hours/time but apparently you’re not being efficient enough to afford it. Kai is right though, if you have been playing this long to just make 1 legendary, what will you do AFTER to make it? Most quit because they cant find another goal to work towards. If you are having problems with 1 legendary, once you make it, you are out of goals because you wouldnt want to make another if you had to go through this again.

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Posted by: Salari.2349

Salari.2349

I would step back and take a look at how you play. I work, play for about 2-4 hours a night except on my days off (about 5-7 hours total for that day) and managed to get 4 legendaries (5 if i didnt want to get some foefire weapons). I dont farm much, I dont run dungeons everyday (last time I was in a dungeon was 8 days ago) yet I managed to get 4 in 1 year while you can’t even get 1? Learn to play efficient, learn to know what sells, heck, learn that you can get Crystalline Dust from Salvaging Ectos, one of the easiest T6 mat to get.

I DONT know your play hours/time but apparently you’re not being efficient enough to afford it. Kai is right though, if you have been playing this long to just make 1 legendary, what will you do AFTER to make it? Most quit because they cant find another goal to work towards. If you are having problems with 1 legendary, once you make it, you are out of goals because you wouldnt want to make another if you had to go through this again.

Well, asides from the T6 dust, what would you recommend to maximize efficiency? And if I’m done with the game shortly after I finish my Legendary (although I want to work towards Ascended armor, probably) then that’s my prerogative. Why I’m playing the game isn’t what’s being debated, here.

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Preach it Brother! I’m in your boat and fed up to my eyeballs trying to get the T6 mats. I am sooooo….. close, but it’s still going to be at least a month of farming for mats, karma training in EoTM and generally trying to breath in, and breath out when I get a little angry about this situation.

Anet doesn’t make grindy games. Yeah, right.

My posts are facts as I know them, or my own opinion, and do not represent any guild.

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Posted by: Salari.2349

Salari.2349

Preach it Brother! I’m in your boat and fed up to my eyeballs trying to get the T6 mats. I am sooooo….. close, but it’s still going to be at least a month of farming for mats, karma training in EoTM and generally trying to breath in, and breath out when I get a little angry about this situation.

Anet doesn’t make grindy games. Yeah, right.

All I know is that once I have enough to purchase the precursor (which inevitably I’ll have to do) I’ll have to save up a whole bunch more.

Oh, and in regards to the other poster saying I don’t spend my time efficiently, I farm all the world champs and speed run all the paths in four dungeons daily. I think that’s plenty efficient. Frankly, it sounds like you got lucky.

Also, as opposed to criticising how I’m playing without knowing what I do, why not offer advice instead?

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

1. If crafting Bifrost was your only reason for playing, you should have quit a long time ago.
2. Crafting a Legendary should be a long term goal, not a short term, and if you treat it that way, those “unreasonable” barriers would be viewed as milestones in the journey.
3. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
4. Can I have your stuff?

Well, as… constructive as your advice is, I’m going to have to pass. People have their reasons for playing, making the legendary was mine, and you’re not one to say why I should be playing. No one is. As for it being a long term goal, you have no idea how long I’ve been making it, so you can’t pass judgement on whether I’ve been trying long enough (FYI over a year, long enough for you?).

SNIP

Why I’m playing the game isn’t what’s being debated, here.

Actually, yes I do have an idea of how long you’ve been trying to make it. I’ve been trying to make a particular Legendary myself since release. So, yes, I can tell you how I look at it and tell you how it would make things easier on yourself if you did the same.

Also, you put up the reason for quiting or playing on the chopping block, not us. If you didn’t want it discussed, you should have left it off the topic. /shrug.

More cheese?

“Be like water” – Bruce Lee

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Posted by: Morsus.5106

Morsus.5106

Just put in some overtime at work, throw ~$600 into gems, buy the legendary. Problem solved!
(Numbers taken from GW2Spidy, 16 cents for a gold, 3200 gold for the legendary.)

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Posted by: Salari.2349

Salari.2349

1. If crafting Bifrost was your only reason for playing, you should have quit a long time ago.
2. Crafting a Legendary should be a long term goal, not a short term, and if you treat it that way, those “unreasonable” barriers would be viewed as milestones in the journey.
3. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
4. Can I have your stuff?

Well, as… constructive as your advice is, I’m going to have to pass. People have their reasons for playing, making the legendary was mine, and you’re not one to say why I should be playing. No one is. As for it being a long term goal, you have no idea how long I’ve been making it, so you can’t pass judgement on whether I’ve been trying long enough (FYI over a year, long enough for you?).

SNIP

Why I’m playing the game isn’t what’s being debated, here.

Actually, yes I do have an idea of how long you’ve been trying to make it. I’ve been trying to make a particular Legendary myself since release. So, yes, I can tell you how I look at it and tell you how it would make things easier on yourself if you did the same.

Also, you put up the reason for quiting or playing on the chopping block, not us. If you didn’t want it discussed, you should have left it off the topic. /shrug.

More cheese?

Are you going to offer any advice, or are you just going to have a go at me for how I play? What my objectives are in the game aren’t your concern. If I want to quit when I’ve made it, then that’s up to me. I don’t care what people think if I finish then, I want to accomplish something in it, then leave. Haven’t you ever heard of people who pique when working somewhere and decide to move on to another job to accomplish other things? That’s just how it is. I mentioned the possibility of finishing playing, but that’s not the subject, it’s pertinent to how the impracticality of the process has driven myself (and I’m sure, many others) to the point of giving up, because they don’t gleam any enjoyment from the game anymore.

And if you haven’t made a legendary yet, then you’re not doing something right, and you’re not necessarily an authority on the process, and resorting to childish remarks like you’re doing, isn’t particularly constructive. Frankly, I don’t even know why you’re posting other than to mock someone for their honest opinion.

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Posted by: KarateKid.5648

KarateKid.5648

There’s a reason many of us who’ve been playing a year plus don’t build legendaries. We saw that frustration train coming wayyyy ahead of time.

As far as t-6 mats – that’s what my time has been devoted to lately – posting them on the TP for folks like you. You’ll know they’re mine because they’re posted 1 copper under the guy in front of me

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Posted by: Lonewolf Kai.3682

Lonewolf Kai.3682

1. If crafting Bifrost was your only reason for playing, you should have quit a long time ago.
2. Crafting a Legendary should be a long term goal, not a short term, and if you treat it that way, those “unreasonable” barriers would be viewed as milestones in the journey.
3. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
4. Can I have your stuff?

Well, as… constructive as your advice is, I’m going to have to pass. People have their reasons for playing, making the legendary was mine, and you’re not one to say why I should be playing. No one is. As for it being a long term goal, you have no idea how long I’ve been making it, so you can’t pass judgement on whether I’ve been trying long enough (FYI over a year, long enough for you?).

SNIP

Why I’m playing the game isn’t what’s being debated, here.

Actually, yes I do have an idea of how long you’ve been trying to make it. I’ve been trying to make a particular Legendary myself since release. So, yes, I can tell you how I look at it and tell you how it would make things easier on yourself if you did the same.

Also, you put up the reason for quiting or playing on the chopping block, not us. If you didn’t want it discussed, you should have left it off the topic. /shrug.

More cheese?

Are you going to offer any advice, or are you just going to have a go at me for how I play? What my objectives are in the game aren’t your concern. If I want to quit when I’ve made it, then that’s up to me. I don’t care what people think if I finish then, I want to accomplish something in it, then leave. Haven’t you ever heard of people who pique when working somewhere and decide to move on to another job to accomplish other things? That’s just how it is. I mentioned the possibility of finishing playing, but that’s not the subject, it’s pertinent to how the impracticality of the process has driven myself (and I’m sure, many others) to the point of giving up, because they don’t gleam any enjoyment from the game anymore.

And if you haven’t made a legendary yet, then you’re not doing something right, and you’re not necessarily an authority on the process, and resorting to childish remarks like you’re doing, isn’t particularly constructive. Frankly, I don’t even know why you’re posting other than to mock someone for their honest opinion.

That’s not what I said. I said a particular Legendary. In fact, one that requires TWO Legendaries. Anyways, my “childish” remarks are about as constructive as the OP, thus the reasoning behind my cheese comments. I saw nothing but whining in the OP. I see no ideas on how to change the process in your wall of text. I see no suggestions at all. So tell me, what’s so constructive about your OP? To me, it sounds like a threatening rant about not getting what you want and that you’ll go off and quit because you can’t get it. Did you stamp your foot down too while you wrote all of that out? …..Now, what was childish again?

“Be like water” – Bruce Lee

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Posted by: Salari.2349

Salari.2349

1. If crafting Bifrost was your only reason for playing, you should have quit a long time ago.
2. Crafting a Legendary should be a long term goal, not a short term, and if you treat it that way, those “unreasonable” barriers would be viewed as milestones in the journey.
3. Would you like some cheese with your whine?
4. Can I have your stuff?

Well, as… constructive as your advice is, I’m going to have to pass. People have their reasons for playing, making the legendary was mine, and you’re not one to say why I should be playing. No one is. As for it being a long term goal, you have no idea how long I’ve been making it, so you can’t pass judgement on whether I’ve been trying long enough (FYI over a year, long enough for you?).

SNIP

Why I’m playing the game isn’t what’s being debated, here.

Actually, yes I do have an idea of how long you’ve been trying to make it. I’ve been trying to make a particular Legendary myself since release. So, yes, I can tell you how I look at it and tell you how it would make things easier on yourself if you did the same.

Also, you put up the reason for quiting or playing on the chopping block, not us. If you didn’t want it discussed, you should have left it off the topic. /shrug.

More cheese?

Are you going to offer any advice, or are you just going to have a go at me for how I play? What my objectives are in the game aren’t your concern. If I want to quit when I’ve made it, then that’s up to me. I don’t care what people think if I finish then, I want to accomplish something in it, then leave. Haven’t you ever heard of people who pique when working somewhere and decide to move on to another job to accomplish other things? That’s just how it is. I mentioned the possibility of finishing playing, but that’s not the subject, it’s pertinent to how the impracticality of the process has driven myself (and I’m sure, many others) to the point of giving up, because they don’t gleam any enjoyment from the game anymore.

And if you haven’t made a legendary yet, then you’re not doing something right, and you’re not necessarily an authority on the process, and resorting to childish remarks like you’re doing, isn’t particularly constructive. Frankly, I don’t even know why you’re posting other than to mock someone for their honest opinion.

That’s not what I said. I said a particular Legendary. In fact, one that requires TWO Legendaries. Anyways, my “childish” remarks are about as constructive as the OP, thus the reasoning behind my cheese comments. I saw nothing but whining in the OP. I see no ideas on how to change the process in your wall of text. I see no suggestions at all. So tell me, what’s so constructive about your OP? To me, it sounds like a threatening rant about not getting what you want and that you’ll go off and quit because you can’t get it. Did you stamp your foot down too while you wrote all of that out? …..Now, what was childish again?

I’m not bothering with you anymore. You have nothing constructive to say, you’re just criticising me and my opinion needlessly. If it makes you feel better about yourself, fine, either way, you needn’t post anything else, you literally have nothing to offer that’s good.

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Posted by: Cormac.3871

Cormac.3871

If you are farming world bosses you should be swimming in ectos. Most rares should be salvaged. Greatswords, swords, hammers and staves should be either sold or thrown into the mystic forge in sets of four of the same type. Salvaging ectos for t6 dust is not cost effective in terms of gold, but if your MF is hovering at 100 or less consider doing it for the luck. If you are going to salvage ectos do it early because that way you have the magic find working for you for longer.

Consider some of the event chains in cursed shore. For some of these you get a phenomenal number of bags dropping.

For lower level dungeons use your tokens to salvage exotics for inscriptions or insignia that can’t be crafted (magi, soldiers etc.). For higher level dungeon tokens (CoF up) buy rares with your tokens and salvage them for ectos.

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Posted by: Salari.2349

Salari.2349

If you are farming world bosses you should be swimming in ectos. Most rares should be salvaged. Greatswords, swords, hammers and staves should be either sold or thrown into the mystic forge in sets of four of the same type. Salvaging ectos for t6 dust is not cost effective in terms of gold, but if your MF is hovering at 100 or less consider doing it for the luck. If you are going to salvage ectos do it early because that way you have the magic find working for you for longer.

Consider some of the event chains in cursed shore. For some of these you get a phenomenal number of bags dropping.

For lower level dungeons use your tokens to salvage exotics for inscriptions or insignia that can’t be crafted (magi, soldiers etc.). For higher level dungeon tokens (CoF up) buy rares with your tokens and salvage them for ectos.

Thank you for the advice. So far I’ve been doing okay for Ectos (and any rares I get that are worth more than an Ecto I’ve been putting on the TP). Sadly, my salvaging luck has been horrible recently, even when using Black Lion salvaging kits I’m regularly getting nothing. I’ve hit a stack of 250 already and I’m trying to get more to finish off my clovers. Once I get all my clovers, I think I’ll start to salvage Ectos then to get the dust.

Buying rares from dungeons vendors could be worthwhile for the Ectos I’ll need for dust, so far I’ve been saving up enough to get 4 exotic weapons to throw them in the forge and selling the resulting weapon (maybe even getting a precursor in the process, but sadly, I, and a friend of mine who’s been doing the same have ended up with level 75 weapons out of this process).

As for the cursed shore farming, I’ve been doing that too when I can. I don’t always have the best of luck with bag drops, but it’s probably the best I can do when it comes to acquiring T6 mats without grinding one small region.

Thank you for the advice, though. It’s nice to see that some people are willing to offer something constructive on here.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

If you don’t have anything you like from the Laurel Vendors, spend your Laurels getting Heavy Crafting Bags too. It’s a nice supplement for T6 mats; you get 3 per bag, and you can always sell the unneeded ones and buy the ones you need.

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Posted by: Vol.7601

Vol.7601

You are complaining about two of the most expensive components of a Legendary.

It seems you do not want to put the effort to make it.

Therefore, you do not deserve a legendary.

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Posted by: Devik.9852

Devik.9852

I realize this doesn’t help your situation and I wish you the best, but for me I will likely never go through the whole legendary ordeal.

I can afford ascended gear, Feathers of Dwayna, maybe Foefire’s Power, Light of Dwayna, Fused Longbow and still have money left over.

I like to gear up all my toons.. so for me legendaries are overkill and they’re so common that they truly don’t have any impressive appeal – to me at least.

Foefire’s Power for example. I get people whisper me and compliment my hammer.. on JQ I haven’t seen another one in nearly a month. A legendary on the other hand.. they’re everywhere.

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Posted by: Scorpion Over Lord.9036

Scorpion Over Lord.9036

If you are farming world bosses you should be swimming in ectos. Most rares should be salvaged. Greatswords, swords, hammers and staves should be either sold or thrown into the mystic forge in sets of four of the same type. Salvaging ectos for t6 dust is not cost effective in terms of gold, but if your MF is hovering at 100 or less consider doing it for the luck. If you are going to salvage ectos do it early because that way you have the magic find working for you for longer.

Consider some of the event chains in cursed shore. For some of these you get a phenomenal number of bags dropping.

For lower level dungeons use your tokens to salvage exotics for inscriptions or insignia that can’t be crafted (magi, soldiers etc.). For higher level dungeon tokens (CoF up) buy rares with your tokens and salvage them for ectos.

Thank you for the advice. So far I’ve been doing okay for Ectos (and any rares I get that are worth more than an Ecto I’ve been putting on the TP). Sadly, my salvaging luck has been horrible recently, even when using Black Lion salvaging kits I’m regularly getting nothing. I’ve hit a stack of 250 already and I’m trying to get more to finish off my clovers. Once I get all my clovers, I think I’ll start to salvage Ectos then to get the dust.

Buying rares from dungeons vendors could be worthwhile for the Ectos I’ll need for dust, so far I’ve been saving up enough to get 4 exotic weapons to throw them in the forge and selling the resulting weapon (maybe even getting a precursor in the process, but sadly, I, and a friend of mine who’s been doing the same have ended up with level 75 weapons out of this process).

As for the cursed shore farming, I’ve been doing that too when I can. I don’t always have the best of luck with bag drops, but it’s probably the best I can do when it comes to acquiring T6 mats without grinding one small region.

Thank you for the advice, though. It’s nice to see that some people are willing to offer something constructive on here.

Complaining in the OP aside, what Cormac said is right and as to what you said you are doing seems to aid in your money woes. Yes, throwing in dungeon exos gives you the extremely slim chance at a pre curser but you are throwing money away that could be used to save for the pre. Use mystic or masters salvage kits on exotics from dungeon tokens as Cormac mentioned, you dont even need a bl salvage kit. Dont waste money on ANYTHING, commit to only using your money to save up for the legandary, nothing else, luxury items add up and it hurts your savings over time. IMO the 1st thing you should have worked for was the pre curser and bought that as that is one of the hardest things apart from the t6 mats. Once you have it you know everything else can be gotten over time and prices of mats wont go up as much as the pre cursers did, i re.ember when abyss dye was 2gold when the game launched and thought 2gold for a dye was crazy…let alone 10gold to just buy the krecipe (k is silent) for the gift to make a legandary…please forgive my spelling, english is my 1st language.

but as said before, keep doing dungeons and make money from dungeon tokens…saving is key.

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Posted by: SkyFallsInThunder.8257

SkyFallsInThunder.8257

2. T6 materials. Asides from spending all my laurels on heavy crafting bags, spending festival tokens and Mystic Clover forging (thanks for all that wonderful leather, by the way, I nearly got a silver by selling those -sarcasm-), there is no solid way to get them other than the TP, where – unsurprisingly – the prices are ridiculous. Powerful blood is now over 50s each, and that’s just for one material of the 8 needed. If you buy the T6 mats, the cost for all will more than likely exceed the cost of the precursor.

Now you may think “why don’t you just promote T5 materials into T6 with the Mystic Toilet?” I would, in any other circumstances, but with the Bifrost, I need a whole 500 Crystalline Dust, ANOTHER material which has a terrible drop rate, so until I get those, I can’t consider using 5 of them at a time. Any other Legendary, this isn’t a big problem, but with the Bifrost, it is.

You also said you’ve been at it for more than a year. Let me do some quick math for you. In 10 months you should get 300 laurels from daily + 100 more from monthlies, so a total of 400 laurels. Converting these into t6 bags would get you 1200 t6 mats, which is 60% of what you need for a legendary. Just from laurels, and just for 10 months.

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Posted by: johnnymiller.5968

johnnymiller.5968

If you are farming world bosses you should be swimming in ectos. Most rares should be salvaged. Greatswords, swords, hammers and staves should be either sold or thrown into the mystic forge in sets of four of the same type. Salvaging ectos for t6 dust is not cost effective in terms of gold, but if your MF is hovering at 100 or less consider doing it for the luck. If you are going to salvage ectos do it early because that way you have the magic find working for you for longer.

Consider some of the event chains in cursed shore. For some of these you get a phenomenal number of bags dropping.

For lower level dungeons use your tokens to salvage exotics for inscriptions or insignia that can’t be crafted (magi, soldiers etc.). For higher level dungeon tokens (CoF up) buy rares with your tokens and salvage them for ectos.

This is an interesting theory as I have been farming world bosses over the last couple of weeks & the loot dropped mostly consists of white & blue mats with the occasional green & yellow item. Cursed shore loot is far from great (spent a lot of time there recently). Maybe I am unlucky.

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Posted by: Cormac.3871

Cormac.3871

Consider some of the event chains in cursed shore. For some of these you get a phenomenal number of bags dropping.

This is an interesting theory as I have been farming world bosses over the last couple of weeks & the loot dropped mostly consists of white & blue mats with the occasional green & yellow item. Cursed shore loot is far from great (spent a lot of time there recently). Maybe I am unlucky.

World bosses give a guaranteed yellow as the chance for more in their chests. Admittedly it was much faster when it was easier to do more than four bosses an hour.

With Cursed Shore the trick is to go for the events that spawn a lot of adds and tag as many as possible. Use weapons that hit multiple opponents. Events like the temple of Grenth (after the priest is killed) should really give a lot of heavy mouldy bags, and t6 mats drop at a pretty decent rate from these.

Also, magic find is worth having. If you are getting more whites than greens it is probably pretty low.

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Posted by: Phoebe Ascension.8437

Phoebe Ascension.8437

I made the Bifrost recently. I’ll just give my advice to you.

Buy unidentified dye’s NOW. They will never be cheaper. 21 gold, and you are set. (for 100). The precursor was 1050g when I bought it (buy offer). It’s was a ‘spike bargain’ as I call it, cause it was almost non stop at 1120g+ price, and I managed to take advantage of a ‘down spike’. Do not buy listed offers, and do not put buy offers in primetime or weekend. Do it in the week days before/after primetime. I’ve seen buy offers on The Legend drop to 880g recently (wether that’s now the case or not doesn’t really matter), it means if you keep looking patiently you should be able to get one for 880-930g.

T6 items are a breeze tbh atm. Go pavilion and farm tokens/gold blitz. If you can’t do that join a guild like TTS or wathever, so it makes it easier for you. Spend every 300 tokens on a ‘heavy crafting bag’, the same you can buy with laurels! Please do not spend laurels on t6 mats unless you are desperate cause laurels are much harder to come by (once you start really using them) then gold. Every 300 tokens, nets you 3 t6 mats. Can go quite fast to be honest. Much of my t6 mats were below 50 after making legendary and i’m not reaching 100+ on most already again.

750 pile of crystal dust is honestly the LEAST of your worries. It’s like the most garanteed farm. Huh what does he mean? Ecto’s are (sort of) a garanteed drop if you farm on world bosses like karka queen etc, because of the rare items that drop, and if you use mystic salvage kit (rare + upgrade for more use with mystic stone) you got a very decent chance to get ecto’s. If you are on a bad luck streak, don’t sweat it, you will be on a lucky strike once. With this many boss events daily possible, you can get garanteed 15-25 rares. If with bad luck, these should grant 10 ecto, wich on their turn, are actually 18 Dust (if salvage with mystic kit, 250 ecto, on average gives me 450 Dust, about 1,85 multiplier. 18 a day. And that’s without other rare drops.

That should cover it mainly. Patience is a virtue. I know it’s boring, but I can’t state it enough. It’s people without patience, that rush to buy stuff faster, driving up prices. And every time one of them falls for the temptation, it’s another potential buyer less, to uproar the market, and the ‘downfall of price’ potential becomes bigger. This is especially true for precursors.

Legendary weapons can be hidden now!
No excuse anymore for not giving ‘hide mounts’-option
No thanks to unidentified weapons.

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Posted by: Charles Peter Nystrom.5923

Charles Peter Nystrom.5923

Some tips from someone now crafting their 16th legendary…

Crafting your legendary is basically a matter of building incremental advantage until the obstacle is trivial.

In this case the obstacle is the quantity of materials required to craft a legendary and advantage in this context is essentially your in game wealth.

So, on to creating incremental advantage.

0) Break it down into little goals; write them down; check them off as you go. This will help to keep you motivated.
I personally set goals for each of my materials in chunks of 25 and Icy Lodestones on the 10s.
Precursors are their own mini goal broken down into either increments of gold or materials depending on how I am acquiring them.

1) Play a little every day if you can. 1-2 hours, more if you can.

2) Do your dailies. Those material boxes can be had for 1 laurel each (They have 3 random t6 mats each), Dyes can also be purchased for laurels.

3) Do a dungeon every day, just 1 path a day will earn you enough gold and tokens to fast track your legendary.
I like running SE because it is fast and easy for me, your mileage may vary.

4) Save all of your materials, wait until you have a significant quantity to sell before posting them on the trading post, this will discourage impulse buys with your gold.

5) Don’t buy anything with your gold unless it is directly related to your legendary.

6) Do 2-3 World bosses each day. (more if you can stand it)

7) If you don’t have your precursor yet, save all of your rares and exotics of the same weapon type; once you get a multiple of 4 toss them into the Mystic Forge, sometimes you will get lucky.
You can use dungeon tokens to get rares for this.
I also save up my T5 materials and slowly build up 7-800 of the components to craft rares of the same type to throw into the mystic forge.

8) Salvage or sell rares and exotics that don’t match your precursor’s weapon type.
I recommend Mystic Salvage Kits if you don’t have Black Lion Kits, you should have no trouble getting Mystic Stones for them if you are doing your dailies.
Mystic Stones are easily acquired from AP chests, dailies, and map completion rewards.

9) Ecto salvage into dust and essences of luck, once you have the base 250 that you need for gift salvage every one that you get.

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Posted by: Nusku.3941

Nusku.3941

I’m sorry, but after reading that post about the 4 legendaries last year, if you’re going to say something like that please back it up with a screenshot, don’t just say that and run away; second, please don’t try to scold people about how many legendaries you have as right now with the game’s current economy, it is really hard to even get a precursor; even harder than last year where you had most precursors sitting around at half a grand of gold. Again, I mean no harm to anyone, but please respect players trying to get their legendaries, thank you!

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

I think people are complaining because it is getting “harder” because price is rising.

And people are suggesting they should get most of their material because they spend 10 month of laurel on T6. Getting a legendary is probably not too difficult if you spend 100% of your earning for legendary.

I just take the easy way out. And give up. Not that I couldn’t earn enough money for legendary, I just think the money is better spent for other things like ascended armor, or getting some gemstore item.

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

I think people are complaining because it is getting “harder” because price is rising.

Of course it’s getting harder. Anet nerfed the Champion trains into the ground and the mats aren’t getting into the trading post now. Along with that, a lot of players have quit recently so that farming isn’t happening either.

This whole business about getting a legendary is turning into a tail chase of “don’t have, and can’t get”. It’s not a wonder there have been so many topics on this lately.

My posts are facts as I know them, or my own opinion, and do not represent any guild.

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Posted by: EgonVenkman.1907

EgonVenkman.1907

Salari,
Ignore the naysayers in this thread. I just crafted my Bifrost after about 1 year of casual play. Those who claim 3 months or less are playing the TP for their gold, or investing way too many hours grinding to have anything else to do in their free time.

Despite what people say, getting a legendary is simply having the gold to buy/craft it. No real amount of skill required, just a lot…lot of gold.

Here’s a few tips that may help you enjoy the game while gathering supplies.

1. Laurels – Use them for T6 mats. They are pretty much the best bet. Either for getting T6 or converting it to gold for other stuff.

2. Get Lucky with RNG? – If you are feeling adventurous, or have a bunch of Mystic Stones from chests/map completion… you can buy 3 cheapest exotics, and throw them with a mystic stone into the forge. May not get bifrost, but I did get a leaf of kudzu to sell, to help finance the search for other items. Also, some people swear by rares, but I blew at least 500g on rares, and within 100g of using exotics, had The Legend. However, RNG requires regular blood sacrifices, souls, or firstborn sons as payment.

3. Don’t just focus one activity. – If you grind the same thing day after day. Game will suck. Be boring. Find what you enjoy doing, and do that. Take regular breaks from grinding the legendary. Play some sPvP, WvW, dungeons, or something else entirely to find out what would be fun IF you had your legendary. No use having a legendary if there is nothing fun to do with it.

4. GOLD. Farming all T6 mats really just isn’t viable. At the end, I ended up spending around 500g for the rest of the T6 mats I still needed. In addition to other costs, which I didn’t track., I’d say I spent pretty close to 1.5k overall on the Bifrost. If you want to ignore the headache of it all, just sell everything and save up to buy it. Sucks to spend all that gold in one go, but is better for the sanity of some.

5. Get other shinys. If you are just playing casually, go for something else that looks good on your way to the Bifrost. If you see a cool skin, and you an afford it, get it. Little boosts of fun are a good way to re-energize yourself during your quest. It may not be the most efficient, but don’t miss out on a cool skin now because it puts you a few weeks/month behind your ultimate goal. The legendary isn’t going anywhere, but that skin may cost 3 to 10 times the amount once you finally have your legendary. Ultimate savings in the end, even if it delays your goal.

6. Above all, have fun. If the game isn’t fun. Take a break. I’ve had breaks of 3 months or so because I was annoyed with the state of the game. It will still be there, if you even want it.

From the stupid amount of dust you need, to the gift of color (buy your dyes now if you don’t have them), the bifrost is incredibly annoying. I wish you the best of luck in your journey.

Colin Johanson: "Everyone, including casual gamers,
by level 80 should have the best statistical loot in the game.”
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Posted by: Astralporing.1957

Astralporing.1957

I think people are complaining because it is getting “harder” because price is rising.

It’s not even funny how fast it is rising. At one point i considered making a Legendary, and tried to calculate what i’d have needed for it. The result was, that it would have been possible, but would have reduced all my gold reserves to 0. I didn’t decide to go for it then. That was a year ago.

I didn’t try to specifically farm for legendary since then, but with normal playing, even spending gold and materials on unrelated goods i did manage to significantly build up my gold reserves, as well as t6/lodestone cache. Few days ago i did similar calculation for the same legendary once again. And you know what i have found out? That i could easily make it, but I would need to spend all my gold. The same as before.

Even though i got much closer to crafting it (if you look only at the material requirements), in that time the cost of everything went up so much, that it negated all that effort.

Now, again, if i really cared, i would have probably farmed for it long ago, but it still is a bit discouraging.

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Posted by: Trice.4598

Trice.4598

I’d like to add a couple of things,

1. Mining, there is a couple of very good spot with Rich Iron Node/Platinum Node that respawn at the same place everyday, if you have 4-5 + alt character, it becomes very lucrative to farm them everyday. (I’d be willing to show them if you are interested) I makes 3-4 gold everyday in about 10 minutes doing this.

2. Keep everything, horde your materials. If you end up buying something you sold, you’re loosing a lot of money. And as many people said, you are probably getting a lot of Ecto, if you need Cristalline dust, salvage the extra ecto, you won’t be loosing money doing (you won’t save anythign either) but you will gain magic find at the sae time :P.

3. Salvage dungeon equipment. anything below 70, you buy exotic helmet for 180 tokens with Magi, Rabid or Soldier stats and use master salvage kit (inscriptions sells for 2 gold + the ectos). Over 71, buy the rare helmet for 30 tokens each and salvage for ectos. (don’t throw them in mystic forge hoping for a miracle)

4. Don’t spend your gold on things you don’t need, this is harder than it look. Expensive foods, ascended weapons/armor (if you are working toward your legendary don’t get distracted) even if it’s cheap (minis for 2 golds, good looking skins for 2 golds in tp)

You said you were running a lot of dungeon path that’s all you need really. You should be making a good 20-25 gold per day just with that, add a little bit of mining and open world PvE, you should be at 35 golds.

Other people said it but if you focus too much on legendary, it becomes tedious. The less you think about it the easier it seems.

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Posted by: Claridiana.5230

Claridiana.5230

I feel like offering an alternative to the legendary grind that has been discussed here, just to put things in relation.

I have 2 legendaries myself, Kudzu and Bolt, and was going to craft Bifrost next. This staff has been mentioned several times in this thread. But then i became aware how many other things i could get for the required gold.

As of now, Bifrost costs 3455 g.
For this money i can get:
1 ascended staff with berserker stats, 76 g
the most expensive sigil for the staff, sigil of generosity, 47g
assortment of nice staff skins:
-tormented skin, 84g
-phoenix skin, 73g
-dreamthistle skin, 256g

furthermore:
1 full set of heavy ascended armour with berserker stats, 500g
5 (yes five) full sets of full price gem store armor for 800gems each, 465g
Ascended back piece Light of Dwayna, including the recipe, 296g
3 infinite gathering tools for 1000 gems each, 349g
1 additional char slot, 93g
4 additional bank slots, 379g
3 full sets (yes, 3 full sets) of T3 cultural armor, 357g
1 full set of the most expensive runes (Runes of Strength), 104g
100 transmutation charges, 379g

This adds up exactly to the price of Bifrost. And there is no month-long grind where you dont dare to buy anything else but mats for your legendary or only with a bad feeling. Instead, you get something nice or useful or shiny every week.

Since i have quit crafting legendaries and started to buy all that other nice stuff instead, i really feel rich in this game. And it has become FUN again instead of a grind.

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Posted by: Cakemeister.5792

Cakemeister.5792

I’d like to add a couple of things,

1. Mining, there is a couple of very good spot with Rich Iron Node/Platinum Node that respawn at the same place everyday, if you have 4-5 + alt character, it becomes very lucrative to farm them everyday. (I’d be willing to show them if you are interested) I makes 3-4 gold everyday in about 10 minutes doing this.

I’d like to know the location of a reliable rich iron node that is close to a waypoint. Are you mining the platinum node that is close to the golem world event, or have you found a better one?

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

The waypoint close to Proxemic Labs in Brisban Wildlands is where I go when I want Iron Ore. There’s a guaranteed Rich Iron Vein nearby, and there’s usually at least 5 other Iron Ore + Silver Ore nodes around the canyons as well.

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Posted by: neonreaper.4805

neonreaper.4805

If you can run 12 paths and farm 9 world bosses a day, you are likely on the path to having the mats/gold you need for this. It just takes a while.

While waiting for the bosses, farm nodes and kill mobs. If you farmed a single copper node for two months, you’d pocket a gold. Half the bosses are near iron and one is near ori.

Leave alts near some good farming areas. Change it up for some variety – sometimes I just put everyone through a lemongrass run.

If leather drops from clovers give you heartburn, switch to the single clover recipe.

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Posted by: Kupper.8074

Kupper.8074

I’d like to add a couple of things,

1. Mining, there is a couple of very good spot with Rich Iron Node/Platinum Node that respawn at the same place everyday, if you have 4-5 + alt character, it becomes very lucrative to farm them everyday. (I’d be willing to show them if you are interested) I makes 3-4 gold everyday in about 10 minutes doing this.

I’d like to know the location of a reliable rich iron node that is close to a waypoint. Are you mining the platinum node that is close to the golem world event, or have you found a better one?

Ask and you shall receive: http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/1xffs0/permanent_rich_ore_locations_30_final_version/

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Posted by: KarateKid.5648

KarateKid.5648

Consider some of the event chains in cursed shore. For some of these you get a phenomenal number of bags dropping.

This is an interesting theory as I have been farming world bosses over the last couple of weeks & the loot dropped mostly consists of white & blue mats with the occasional green & yellow item. Cursed shore loot is far from great (spent a lot of time there recently). Maybe I am unlucky.

World bosses give a guaranteed yellow as the chance for more in their chests. Admittedly it was much faster when it was easier to do more than four bosses an hour.

With Cursed Shore the trick is to go for the events that spawn a lot of adds and tag as many as possible. Use weapons that hit multiple opponents. Events like the temple of Grenth (after the priest is killed) should really give a lot of heavy mouldy bags, and t6 mats drop at a pretty decent rate from these.

Also, magic find is worth having. If you are getting more whites than greens it is probably pretty low.

This is not dependable – I will go for weeks getting mostly greens, a few blues and avg 1 yellow per hour (open world 65-80 non-boss content – dungeons tend to be slightly better; open world bosses, too).

Then for a week or two, there’s NOTHING but white items with an occasional blue.

Ain’t nobody got time for that.

Just saying there’s more than MF at work there – and if it’s RNG, it’s a horribly “bursty” one.

This has led me to focusing on mobs that drop mats reliably and harvesting almost exclusively.

Which led to an interesting couple discoveries – for those interested in gold,

1) you should be focusing on t4 and t5 materials, not t6. On a per-hour basis solo, I can make 6x my average from running FGS’ train (with the caveat that if exotics are dropping frequently for the user in the train, it will make more – I get about 1 per hour, maybe 3-4 rares per hour).

2) it’s kinda ridiculous in MOST farmable 50-70 areas, trash mobs drop more in resale value than mobs in 70-80 areas (even adjusting for the difference in kill speed).

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Posted by: Charles Peter Nystrom.5923

Charles Peter Nystrom.5923

Have any of you actually tried recording your drops over a period of time? I have, and they tend towards a consistent rate as long as you are not triggering diminishing returns.

Also, as I said earlier, it is all about CONSISTENT INCREMENTAL ADVANTAGE, find a routine that works for you and stick to it.

We all have to get the same components together to craft each legendary, if you are having difficulty it is more than likely a problem with your approach (or attitude) not the mechanics of crafting the item.

I don’t play the market to speak of, but I do make smart purchases when they present themselves.

A majority of my materials come from drops and salvaging, the rest come from promotion through the mystic forge.

And by no means was I advocating the use of laurels as a primary source of T6 materials, I was just mentioning that they were an alternative source for the material boxes that OP had mentioned first.

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Posted by: KarateKid.5648

KarateKid.5648

Have any of you actually tried recording your drops over a period of time? I have, and they tend towards a consistent rate as long as you are not triggering diminishing returns.

Also, as I said earlier, it is all about CONSISTENT INCREMENTAL ADVANTAGE, find a routine that works for you and stick to it.

We all have to get the same components together to craft each legendary, if you are having difficulty it is more than likely a problem with your approach (or attitude) not the mechanics of crafting the item.

I don’t play the market to speak of, but I do make smart purchases when they present themselves.

A majority of my materials come from drops and salvaging, the rest come from promotion through the mystic forge.

And by no means was I advocating the use of laurels as a primary source of T6 materials, I was just mentioning that they were an alternative source for the material boxes that OP had mentioned first.

Speaking of finding a routine, I may have just done that tonight.

To the tune of ~50s a minute via t6 farming.

If that’s not a fluke and is consistent tomorrow night, I may have to rescind my advice on T6’s AND apologize to anet.

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Posted by: AIex.4105

AIex.4105

hmmm, i have Dawn, some 1.6milion karma,almost 500skillpoints and about 750g, will be enough for Sunrise¿ i have almost 2 stack of orich ignots and ectos and almost 50 of every t6m, have like 15 landstones alrady only from fractals, now im waiting for wvw maps to complete so I start making it.

my guild mate keeps saying make the 10x 77 clover first so I get t6s too but no know if with 300skillpoint+1m karma will be enought to reach 250 on each stack and 77clover.

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Posted by: nagr.1593

nagr.1593

Just play the game, it shouldn’t even be that hard to get a legendary. Tbh it seems liek farming gold will solve all your problems. I make 40g/day with dungeons now and before the nerf to CoF P1 farming (which I thought was the worst thing to happen) I easily made like 15g/day. Its always hardest when you are crafting your 1st legendary, but after like a year I have 4 legendaries without even working hard at it, and most of the gold for that I made months ago on sub-par income.

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Posted by: Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

Herr der Friedhoefe.2490

my guild mate keeps saying make the 10x 77 clover first so I get t6s too but no know if with 300skillpoint+1m karma will be enought to reach 250 on each stack and 77clover.

Your guild mate is correct. Making your clovers is your next step. That process will use up a lot of ectos and burn up karma, but will give a lot of t6 mats in return. You wont get 250 of each item, but it will help.

Making a legendary is a bunch of small steps. You have to keep asking, “what’s next?”.

My posts are facts as I know them, or my own opinion, and do not represent any guild.

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Posted by: AIex.4105

AIex.4105

ya but im afraid only of skill points only, i have like 520 on one character and 120 on other. The clovers + landstones+t5s no know if with 440 will be enough, and skill points are even even harder to obtain i guess.

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Posted by: Drarnor Kunoram.5180

Drarnor Kunoram.5180

My suggestion? Do the Clovers first. Even when you fail, you’ll usually get something you need anyway.

Do your dailies and monthlies. 1 Laurel will net you a T6 crafting bag containing 3 randomized materials that your WILL need for your Legendary (because it’s the 8 used for gifts of Might and Magic). I can’t tell you how much money I saved doing that.

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Posted by: Maugrem.7608

Maugrem.7608

I would not use Laurels to buy t6 crafting bags. Laurels are too precious and time-gated. run the pavillion. You get gauntlet tickets that you can farm for chances at the Chaos of Lyssa recipe to sell for like 160g each and then use 300 tokens to purchase t6 crafting bags at the rewards vendor. Much better output for your time.

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Posted by: Zaxares.5419

Zaxares.5419

Of course, if you’re like me and you have 660 Laurels and nothing else to spend them on, why not trade a few in for Heavy Crafting Bags now and again?

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Posted by: Miroe.2054

Miroe.2054

If you spent more than 3 months making it, then your doing something wrong.

I spent a year crafting one and it felt very right when i finished it.

Of course, if you’re like me and you have 660 Laurels and nothing else to spend them on, why not trade a few in for Heavy Crafting Bags now and again?

660 Laurels – this is insanity…

About the Precursor – you dont have to buy it from the TP. Just fold your hands and pray to our Lord Colin Johanson so the Mystic Toilet may answer to your plea.

http://seemslegit.dk/precursors/

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Posted by: AIex.4105

AIex.4105

I think i will spend my laurels to make the landstones this way I would save like 70g, 60 laurels not gona bring many t6s anyway, if im not rong, best way to get t6s is the clover thing, I did 320 of x1 recipie and gived me almost 100 of all t6s except the venom+scale and like 90 clovers, no want the x10 since I can get orich,leather and other non wanted things and u can lose precious ectos and skill points and is the same thing anyway. I have enough skillpoints for other 250 tryes so i will farm ectos for a week and hopefull I will end up with at least 180 or so of each t6s

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Posted by: Shifu.4321

Shifu.4321

Just use laurels for T6. Aside from ascended accessories (which are now account bound and which you can get by other means), there really isn’t anything else as worthwhile.