i opened 5 and got 2 scraps, and a bunch of other useful things. this event is making me like black lion chests! idk what the problem is op, farm RNG harder and goodluck!
If I understand the drops on the chests, there are a lot of “common” items. Making any one “common” item uncommon if not rare. Getting 10 of the same common item becomes statistically improbable. Barring exceptional luck, it’ll cost a lot of money to get 10 scraps before the sale period is up. Then you can look forward to trying to get 50 of them…
I should have thought it through before buying. Oh well, at least I realized it after only buying 5 keys.
8 chests – 3 scraps and a lot of garbage, I do not advise to play this lottery. Sure, a 80g skin may drop, but you will spend hundreds of gold to get it so.. math is simple.
36 chests got me 4 scraps and 8 tokens I believe. Also an Abyss Dye, BL Salvage kits, a makeover kit, etc. Also one extra key, which is why I opened 36 rather than 35.
So let’s say you got 1 scrap every 5 chests, that means to get 10 scraps you’ll need to open 50 chests.
50 black lion keys go for 4500 gems (if you buy in bundle), 4500 gems goes for about 55 dollars… so if you’re lucky… you can get that weapon if you pay 55 dollars for it…
While in reality it seems that the drop rate is much lower than 1 every 5 boxes, since Vox opened 125 chests and got 13 tickets. So let’s say he got 10 tickets at about 100 chests… that’s over 100 dollars wasted (I obviously assume he had stored up the keys) to get one weapon…
So let’s say you got 1 scrap every 5 chests, that means to get 10 scraps you’ll need to open 50 chests.
50 black lion keys go for 4500 gems (if you buy in bundle), 4500 gems goes for about 55 dollars… so if you’re lucky… you can get that weapon if you pay 55 dollars for it…
While in reality it seems that the drop rate is much lower than 1 every 5 boxes, since Vox opened 125 chests and got 13 tickets. So let’s say he got 10 tickets at about 100 chests… that’s over 100 dollars wasted (I obviously assume he had stored up the keys) to get one weapon…
This cannot be working as intended.
It is working as intended. You buy more keys. Anet gets more money.
The drop rate so far appears to be anywhere between 10% (1 in 10) – 20% (1 in 5). Operating on pure math, you’d need to buy about 25 – 50 chests on average to get 1 claim ticket. (And since you’d need 5 tickets after CP is over, multiply that by 5.)
Yes, those are pretty terrible odds, but the real change in the game plan is the fact that the skins are now tradeable. Would I ever buy keys to use myself? HECK NO! But if there was a particular skin I really wanted, at least I now have the option to buy it on the TP. (And with the Aetherized skins, you can attempt to farm it yourself from the Candidate Trials.)
Let the people who buy keys have a chance to strike it rich with a lucky drop, because these are the guys who fund ANet and the servers. For everyone else, either buy the skin off the TP, or just use the odd key you get from drops or the Personal Story and hope you also get lucky!
This is disappointing. Why can’t we just have a guaranteed scrap from the chest?
When the Aetherized Weapons from BLTC reward was first explained, many people thought that you get a super-rare chance at a whole ticket and otherwise a guaranteed scrap. “Finally, Anet got rid of RNG!” we thought after the Kite Fortune system was well-received.
It seems they made it worse in that you get a rare chance at a tenth of a part of the new weapon skins from an item you get with gems.
10 Black Lion Chests 3 scraps… Im so tired of this scam
Consider yourself lucky you go so many.
Those scraps aren’t going to do anything useful except rot in your inventory. You’d better buy 21 more keys before the Aetherized weapons go up in scrap-cost!
This is disappointing. Why can’t we just have a guaranteed scrap from the chest?
When the Aetherized Weapons from BLTC reward was first explained, many people thought that you get a super-rare chance at a whole ticket and otherwise a guaranteed scrap. “Finally, Anet got rid of RNG!” we thought after the Kite Fortune system was well-received.
It seems they made it worse in that you get a rare chance at a tenth of a part of the new weapon skins from an item you get with gems.
The question is, how many people actually bought the kite fortune scraps? If very few did as compared to the numbers who buy keys then ANet will go back to the RNG because I bet it makes them more money.
I really doubt Anet would do something like this on purpose, it’s charging from 60-100 dollars on a weapon. That’s just unheard of, it’s completely unreasonable and they’re not an unreasonable group.
I really honestly think they made it a common drop thinking being such it should drop pretty frequently, but didn’t take into account that when there are so many common drops it becomes a very rare thing to get.
I’m just saddened by the fact that even if this isn’t working as intended they can’t change it now, because imagine the outrage they would be faced with if they decided to increase the drop rate of the scraps now – when people already spent hundreds of keys getting them.
Imagine the negativity they would be bombarded with by people who spent so much to get them, only to have them be made easier to get soon after.
So I’m worried we’ll be stuck with weapons that cost 60-100 dollars, and sadly I’m just not willing to spend that much money on them.
On that note, they said that there will be future weapons that will be obtained the same way, using the black lion scraps.
Now seriously if the future weapons they release will be obtained via this method, I’m genuinely saddened by this. In the past some weapons were obtained with grinding, RNG, or purchases, I did my best to obtain at least one or two of all the past weapons – whether that be grinding, RNG, or purchase.
However if they decide to stick to this method, making their weapons cost 60-100 dollars each, I’m just really disappointed – I’ll have to deal with just not getting them ever again.
60-100 dollars on a weapon just isn’t worth it. It’s just not logical.
Blew 45g on about 15 more chests or so. No ticket, 3 scraps, and some TOTAL makeover kit and transmutation crystals. And Midnight Ice dye!
I can’t say I’m not disappointed, but I am pretty satisfied with what I got from the chests.
What baffles me though, is the fact after 2 weeks we will need 5 tickets to get one Aetherized weapon, when it’s hard enough just to get one.
You’re joking, 5 tickets? I must have missed that somewhere, now that is unreasonable! That’s from 300-500 dollars on a weapon (not counting random tickets)…
That’s… what… huh, that’s just not… I don’t…
Wow… seriously I’d rather buy a PS4 for that money instead of a one single weapon.
Blew 45g on about 15 more chests or so. No ticket, 3 scraps, and some TOTAL makeover kit and transmutation crystals. And Midnight Ice dye!
I can’t say I’m not disappointed, but I am pretty satisfied with what I got from the chests.
What baffles me though, is the fact after 2 weeks we will need 5 tickets to get one Aetherized weapon, when it’s hard enough just to get one.
You’re joking, 5 tickets? I must have missed that somewhere, now that is unreasonable! That’s from 300-500 dollars on a weapon (not counting random tickets)…
That’s… what… huh, that’s just not… I don’t…
See it this way:
The skins could be only available during this event, and not again until next year (or ever). But, this time you can still buy them after the event is over, but for a really high price. The price is crazily high, but still better than no price and no skin at all. I’m not playing this lottery any more, got 10 keys + 3 from drop, spent 32g on it, got a celestial dye (around 20g) so part of my gold was returned, and I’m done with the lottery. Was a nice try, no luck though. 5 total scraps. Luckilly I don’t even like the skins, just hoped for a lucky 80g skin to sell on TP.
The bottom line here is, things are improving.
Before, you either got a skin or not. Now you get scraps so some progress is happening. The drop rate should be better though. I’d give 100% chance for a scrap to drop, 25% chance for 2 scraps, 5% for 3 scraps, and 1% for a ticket. But I’d rise the cost of a ticket to 40 scraps. This way, each chest opened would contribute to the ticket.
Blew 45g on about 15 more chests or so. No ticket, 3 scraps, and some TOTAL makeover kit and transmutation crystals. And Midnight Ice dye!
I can’t say I’m not disappointed, but I am pretty satisfied with what I got from the chests.
What baffles me though, is the fact after 2 weeks we will need 5 tickets to get one Aetherized weapon, when it’s hard enough just to get one.
You’re joking, 5 tickets? I must have missed that somewhere, now that is unreasonable! That’s from 300-500 dollars on a weapon (not counting random tickets)…
That’s… what… huh, that’s just not… I don’t…
See it this way:
The skins could be only available during this event, and not again until next year (or ever). But, this time you can still buy them after the event is over, but for a really high price. The price is crazily high, but still better than no price and no skin at all. I’m not playing this lottery any more, got 10 keys + 3 from drop, spent 32g on it, got a celestial dye (around 20g) so part of my gold was returned, and I’m done with the lottery. Was a nice try, no luck though. 5 total scraps. Luckilly I don’t even like the skins, just hoped for a lucky 80g skin to sell on TP.
The bottom line here is, things are improving.
Before, you either got a skin or not. Now you get scraps so some progress is happening. The drop rate should be better though. I’d give 100% chance for a scrap to drop, 25% chance for 2 scraps, 5% for 3 scraps, and 1% for a ticket. But I’d rise the cost of a ticket to 40 scraps. This way, each chest opened would contribute to the ticket.
Honestly, I’d rather the weapons be cheaper yet limited than available for ever yet as expensive as a video game console.
I don’t care that I can get this in 3 years, because unless I spend money to get these chests, I’m not gonna get these weapons in 5 years.
I’m not even against spending money either, I’ve spent a lot of money in this game, I support Anet, I enjoy their game and enjoy what they’re doing so I wanna show my support… but this is just ridiculous.
This is ridiculous. A 50% drop rate for scraps would already have a pretty price tag for weapons (20 keys now, 100 keys after 2 weeks). Now it’s apparently 5 times as much.
Come on, how is this in any way reasonable? Even if you have a guaranteed drop of a scrap from every chest it remains a expensive. I’m sure they’re just worried of BLkey farming, but then address that problem instead.
This is ridiculous. A 50% drop rate for scraps would already have a pretty price tag for weapons (20 keys now, 100 keys after 2 weeks). Now it’s apparently 5 times as much.
Come on, how is this in any way reasonable? Even if you have a guaranteed drop of a scrap from every chest it remains a expensive. I’m sure they’re just worried of BLkey farming, but then address that problem instead.
Right? Even if you had a guaranteed drop from each chest it would still be 900 gems for 10 scraps, that’s more than 10 dollars.
Or in 2 weeks 50 dollars for each weapon with a guaranteed drop (wow this is still way too much money for a weapon).
I’m just completely baffled and amazed at how absurd this is.
God forbid they implement a system where we need to actually work to get those skins, but instead we are, AGAIN, relying on RNG and ticket/scraps (yo dawg) to get them.
Color me unimpressed :/
I’ve read several people here who are complaining: Anet needs to stop this lottery, Anet isn’t fair, Anet…
While it is YOU spending the money on these frigging chests… if you don’t like the system, stop pouring money and/or gold in it?
Or is that a too-easy solution?
For this to be worth it, ‘common’ should mean 50%.
If I can’t play Guild Wars 2 at work, I won’t work in Guild Wars 2 either.
Delayed content is eventually good. Rushed content is eternally bad. ~ Shigeru Miyamoto
God forbid they implement a system where we need to actually work to get those skins, but instead we are, AGAIN, relying on RNG and ticket/scraps (yo dawg) to get them.
Color me unimpressed :/
It’s even worse actually. We’ve gone from a system where pve world drops provide guaranteed scraps alongside the shop equivalent, to a system where only shop items have a rare chance at dropping scraps. I’m not including Key drops from dailies, map completion or personal story because these are either circumventing regular play, finite in nature or highly rare.
The silver lining is that the weapons do drop from the event challenge though.
I’ve read several people here who are complaining: Anet needs to stop this lottery, Anet isn’t fair, Anet…
While it is YOU spending the money on these frigging chests… if you don’t like the system, stop pouring money and/or gold in it?
Or is that a too-easy solution?
So it is wrong to complain that a lot of new content being released, as far as equipment, skins, etc, is the rng model? To the point where the GW2 client and website news update is “Important new items in gemstore”? Ok brah
So it is wrong to complain that a lot of new content being released, as far as equipment, skins, etc, is the rng model? To the point where the GW2 client and website news update is “Important new items in gemstore”? Ok brah
If it was complaining that the content is being delivered RNG, no problem, complain all you want.
But if it is: I bought bla bla bla and didn’t get what I want, they’re crooks… then you’re the one being silly. You know that the content is RNG, and that there’s no guarantee of getting anything at all. So coming here to complain afterwards and acting as if this is all Anet’s fault seems stupid to me, “Brah”
These things will always happen as long as they use vague terms like ‘common’, ‘uncommon’ and ‘rare’. These terms are indicative, but largely open for interpretation.
Apparently Anet considers a 10% chance ‘common’. I’m sure many players will consider ‘common’ to be at least 50%.
I’m no fan of the drop rate, RNG screwing players in favor of $$$ as usual. And assuming Anet isnt aware of it is giving them alot of credit because these issues arent exactly new.
That said, the one good thing I see about this is that the weapon skins will be available forever, even if it’s a ridiculous price after this event. That IS better then unavailable for anyone joining in a year that desperately wants one, and it retains the exclusiveness that they chase after.
I’d like the scraps to really be common (50% or better drop rate, or better even 100% drop rate and make it take 20 for the same result) and then the concept is bearable. The Post-event price can stay ridiculous, its really only for the future group of players that must have that one skin and would be shattered to find out it was time-limited from 2 years ago.
And here we go again. “i opend so many chests and didnt get anything! As usual, its always crap!”
Then why in the godkitten do you keep buying chests!?
You dont want Arenanet to keep pushing horrible RNG rewards through chests, but at the same time you keep paying them for it.
“i just spend 50$ on chests and didnt get anything, this is bullkitten! Please buff droprate, and do it fast because im about to buy more chests”.
If you keep buying these chests you have no right to complain, you know what you’re buying into and you are supporting it anyway, meaning you’re part of the problem to begin with.
…got 1 Black Lion Claim Ticket Scrap.
What’s the deal ArenaNet?
I strongly recommend people do NOT buy Black Lion Keys until this is resolved.
you assume that opening 3 chests is a representative experiment? try opening 300 and then complain. Also, if you were able to get one of the new skins with 3 chests, they wont be unique and what would be the fun in having them?
I’m sorry but if I do the math it will be cheaper to just convert gems to gold and buy the skin you want.
This is assuming the skin is the only thing you actually want from the chests.
That’s usually true though. That’s how I got my Greatsaw anyway.
Generally the gambling cost will be higher, with only a small potential of being much cheaper.
My god this mistake is still happening. You guys chose to fall for the illusion of getting what you want. Stop deluding yourself and be prepared to get really kittenty drop rates.
Anyway maybe this will make you guys vote for Ellen Kiel? A vote for Evon is a vote for RNG. But then again you all seem to enjoy falling for the same scam every patch so I wouldnt be surprised if you want RNG to stay.
My god this mistake is still happening. You guys chose to fall for the illusion of getting what you want. Stop deluding yourself and be prepared to get really kittenty drop rates.
Anyway maybe this will make you guys vote for Ellen Kiel? A vote for Evon is a vote for RNG. But then again you all seem to enjoy falling for the same scam every patch so I wouldnt be surprised if you want RNG to stay.
:s of course RNG should stay. Guaranteed items make drops worthless.
I know i get hate for this,
i opened 5 chests and got 1 ticket, 1 scrap and 1 level up book.
First time i am lucky in this game.
I’ve had a similar experience yesterday. I had one single key saved up for the evening. Opened one chest. Got one ticket. Keeping it fo later
For reference though, I have no fused or sclerite weapons.
I do have a few jade skins, but I dumped basically all my gold to get them, buying a stack of coffers a day until yesterday, finally, two jade tickets dropped.
I think yesterday was my super lucky day.
The best of luck to all of you who want Aetherized weapons! May RNG be kind to you.
