Guild Wars 2

Anyone else feeling the devs are sitting at their comps on break, reading this forum and snickering to themselves while eating popcorn?

Xan Thav.5369:

Ok, let’s simplify both cases:

Thaumanova: Explosion due to an experiment gone wrong.

Fall of Abbadon: A fight between gods.

Ok, now let’s put each in their rightful glory.

Thaumanova: Explosion that broke the space-time continuum due to an experiment gone very wrong.

Fall of Abbadon: The fight between 6 gods ending in the exodus of the most powerful entity of all of Tyria.

Bottom line is, anyway you want to put it, simplified or actuality, the Abbadon Fractal is superior. Sure, Thaumanova might be interesting, and i’m sure i’d be thrilled to know what happened there, but at the cost of losing the only possibility of seeing the gods GW2 render (including pre-cursed Abbadon), I just don’t think it’s cool/elaborate/epic enough.

The problem with your argument is that none of us know how either idea will be presented. One may sound inherently more interesting to watch if certain assumptions are made, but that doesn’t guarantee that it will be more interesting to participate in.

Heck, you’re just assuming the gods will even be present in some form in this fractal. Unfortunately there has been absolutely ZERO guarantee of that.

All we know is that it will be “research into the Fall of Abaddon”. For all we know, that may just mean we’re going to be on a map along the Desolation theme where we fight waves of Margonites for no apparent reason. Honestly, that sounds more like most of the other fractals we’ve received up to this point than the far grander picture you’re painting.

ZilentNight.5089:

Edge, honestly it doesnt really matter what the dialogues of a NPC says.

It is all about what content us players will be able to enjoy down the line.
That is how we need to be making our decisions, not based on fluff.

Uh, no. You can choose to make your decision that way if you wish, but don’t expect everyone to do the same.

I guess this may surprise you (although in this game, by this point, I can’t imagine why you wouldn’t be aware that some players appreciate both lore and role-playing in their MMOs), but for some people it does “really matter what the dialogues of a NPC says”. And if one of those characters (Evon Gnashblade) is portrayed as a jerk, then some players aren’t going to be overly fond of the idea of having him on the council in Lion’s Arch.

News flash: some of us are here for the story! If I’m just looking for content where I can beat mobs up and level, there’s a dozen different MMOs for that.

the problem I see here is that everybody are forgeting about one thing….
both will be FRACTALS
point me just one fractal that have more that little storytelling,
point me those who are most wanted to be in “todays rotation”
If You want “epic god battle” in the fractals there are no way to have it done properly:
1. do you want see fall of the abaddon oversimplified as ascalon fractal was about fall of the ascalon?
2. Do you want to make Fall of the abaddon the fractal that after some time no one will want to have picked for rotation, because it will be long, to tell the story properly – and by that rather annoying because ppl that are doing fractal want to have done them quick….

in both cases BOTH fractals are loosing. just pick thaumanova reactor instead of Fall of Abaddon – same problem.
so that’s why fractal isn’t really reason to vote anybody….
but after some though… reactor would be easier to achieve third option “short enough and have some lore hints about thaumanova and dragons and some storytelling”
examplewe are inquest.. we are defending NPC that is calibrating reactor from the waves of something - with good party maks 5 minutes - after he ends we have "get out of there it's gonna blow" we have 40 secs to run out of explosion radius and after that chaos ending boss to defeat - tadaam we have fractal that is short and also have some story telling and some windows to lore - if somebody cares to read all NPC's dialogues

Xan Thav.5369:

Ok, let’s simplify both cases:

Thaumanova: Explosion due to an experiment gone wrong.

Fall of Abbadon: A fight between gods.

Ok, now let’s put each in their rightful glory.

Thaumanova: Explosion that broke the space-time continuum due to an experiment gone very wrong.

Fall of Abbadon: The fight between 6 gods ending in the exodus of the most powerful entity of all of Tyria.

Bottom line is, anyway you want to put it, simplified or actuality, the Abbadon Fractal is superior. Sure, Thaumanova might be interesting, and i’m sure i’d be thrilled to know what happened there, but at the cost of losing the only possibility of seeing the gods GW2 render (including pre-cursed Abbadon), I just don’t think it’s cool/elaborate/epic enough.

You don’t know what the inquest was experimenting with at Thaumanova.

Chaos rifts lead to the GW underworld.

ZilentNight.5089:

Edge, honestly it doesnt really matter what the dialogues of a NPC says.

It is all about what content us players will be able to enjoy down the line.
That is how we need to be making our decisions, not based on fluff.

Part of that content that people are forgetting by focusing on fractals, however, is that whichever candidate is chosen will be driving Living Story from the Captain’s Council from now on. If that doesn’t prove to be more significant than one fractal being added to the rotation, then I would be inclined to say that the Living Story team would have dropped the ball bigtime.

It’s one of the things that infuriates me about how much attention is going into fractals, including their stated policy of trashing one of them permanently – it’s sucking attention from the real issue.

On that, one interesting perspective from a friend of mine is that a fractal probably pretty much cannot do justice to the FoA. Consider… most fractals are short mini-dungeons, intended to be done in sets of 3-4 within a reasonable timeframe, each involving a handful of trash mob fights, possibly a miniboss, and a legendary final boss. Cutting past all the chaff, this means that whichever fractal is chosen, one of three things will be the case:

1) It will follow the pattern above, and thus probably not be as epic as some people are thinking.

2) It will be something long and involved that, once the initial novelty wears off, players start to dread appearing in the rotation due to the increased risk and time required (similar to the dredge fractal now, except even more so). Incidentally this is a possibility that concerns me with the MF and AR fractals.

3) It won’t be in the normal rotation, and will instead have some other means of accessing (asking Dessa to visit a specific fractal, for instance).

The third is probably my favoured option, but to be honest, if that isn’t the case, I’m not sure it’s really important which fractal gets done – people are likely to end up frustrated and disappointed regardless. Personally, I’d admit to a certain preference towards seeing the FoA over the reactor, but I have no illusions that it’s likely to be as awesome as I think, and I don’t think it’s important enough to overturn the fact that, thinking of the personalities, backgrounds and values of my characters, the majority of them will support Ellen. I’d rather vote in-character for the good of Lion’s Arch and the future direction of the Living Story rather than get hung up over a thirty-minute minidungeon that might be awesome, or that might be a frustrating disappointment.

Isaiah Cartwright.8569:

Fellow Evon supporters I know Kiel is ahead but while she has the numbers we have the determination, Join me this Sunday and lets buy, farm and steal every ticket we can and show once and for all that this do-gooder Kiel has no chance.

This aggression will not stand.

This message brought to you by Citizens of Tyira For a Better Tommorrow, Tommorrow.

Give me 10/100 votes at a time option and I promise to drop 100 votes for Evon immediately.

I gave about 300 votes and I plan to give about 300 more before the event ends!

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Just ask yourselves if you really want to elect a fancy cat with a lead designer in his pocket. We’ll just have double up our support for Kiel on SATURDAY.

Brought to you by the people against smelly animals in office.

Imagine what the Fall of Abaddon fractal will turn out WITH the lead designer backing it… after all, Kiel’s Thaumanova-bleh-Asuran-bleh-Inquest fractal only has a mediocre game designer backing it

First off, I think both candidates are evil, Evon is just more open about it. Therefore, I’ll vote for him. But let’s get into the nitty gritty.

Kiel wants to rise to power and destroy Tyria through nuclear stuff. Total destruction and all – OK, I get that, pretty straightforward.

If Evon had wanted to destroy Tyria, he could have done so already. With 20 percent on every item sold, he should be a trillionaire by now. He can buy Kryta if he wants to -that is, if he doesn’t own every piece of land already. But what does every villain want when he/she already has all the money in the world? That’s right. Powaaaaaaaaa. Immortalliityyyyyyy.

I think Evon wants us to research what gave Abaddon his power in the first place.

From the wiki: According to the Margonite Apostate, Abaddon gained his power from an older, deposed god.

Perhaps Evon wants some of this power, and then some, mmmm?

With this election, we don’t get to vote if Tyria is to be destroyed, but how.
With that in mind, again, I’ll vote for Evon.

I agree with the people who says that fractal is not the key question in this battle. At least in my mind is not. That is why i base my vote in character personality and keys vs wp.
Kiel is the winner.

Edge.4180:

It’s not just that Kiel is portrayed as a hero, it’s also because Evon Gnashblade is portrayed as a jerk. He does nothing but look after his own interests.

Have you played both of the in-game candidate trials? Kiel wants to recover the stolen items from the Aetherblade wreckage and redistribute it to the people the Aetherblade raided. She insists that her campaign “will not be built on the backs of victims”. It’s noble.

Meanwhile.. Gnashblade wants to recover the stolen items from the Aetherblade wreckage and use it to fund his political campaign. He went as far as to quote his version of the “finders keepers” rule as justification.

Now, imagine you’re one of the merchants devastated by the Aetherblade raid. Is Gnashblade sounding like the hero of that story to you?

At least Evon is honest about his greed. Kiel isn’t. Once you finish a trial, she falls out of her role for a bit but then recovers her “good” side.

But her good side is making me not trusting Kiel. Either’s she’s too easily influenced by others or she has a secret agenda. Evon only has one agenda: making his Black Lion Company stronger and stronger. And as the BL is invested heavily in LA, he’ll protect LA as a demolished LA will not be good for business.

Oh, and about those promises they did… Who ever trusted the promise of a politician!

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

The reason i’m against the retelling of past events is because it’s a different game, sure it takes place in the same world, and yes the fall of abaddon was important to shaping tyria today, but what are you really going to learn from it that will change the story? Abaddon has already been killed. The thaumanova reactor is happening in current day tyria and all we know is it’s tearing a hole is reality. Sure right now it’s contained to a few areas of the world, but what if it spontaneously grew? How will more information on the fall of abaddon help you then? I’m a big ancient history fan I studied the greek myths in school as a hobby, I get how it’s interesting, but what’s more interesting is the things we don’t know at all.

This would require it having been told before. Abaddon’s fall is no more told than the Thaumanova incident. You keep acting like you somehow experianced this before, that anyone has. This is not the case. You heard about it, but that’s all. It’s something that happened a long time ago before anyone did anything relevant to the games.

Also, everyone keeps acting like we might learn some significant secret to the universe through Thaumanova, but couldn’t possibly learn anything about anything with Abaddon. Abaddon was the god of secrets, do you really think there is no chance to learn something significant to the Dragons and things relevant to now just because it happened so long ago? Abaddon had a plan, and the other gods interfered. Most likely he was preparing for right now, meaning this would be the most opportune time to experience his fall.

LadyRhonwyn.2501:

Edge.4180:

It’s not just that Kiel is portrayed as a hero, it’s also because Evon Gnashblade is portrayed as a jerk. He does nothing but look after his own interests.

Have you played both of the in-game candidate trials? Kiel wants to recover the stolen items from the Aetherblade wreckage and redistribute it to the people the Aetherblade raided. She insists that her campaign “will not be built on the backs of victims”. It’s noble.

Meanwhile.. Gnashblade wants to recover the stolen items from the Aetherblade wreckage and use it to fund his political campaign. He went as far as to quote his version of the “finders keepers” rule as justification.

Now, imagine you’re one of the merchants devastated by the Aetherblade raid. Is Gnashblade sounding like the hero of that story to you?

At least Evon is honest about his greed. Kiel isn’t. Once you finish a trial, she falls out of her role for a bit but then recovers her “good” side.

I have zero idea (and, apparently, so do you) what you’re talking about there. I think you’re seeing what you want to see. At no point during the candidate trials does Kiel “fall out of her role for a bit but then recovers her ‘good’ side”. She’s good the whole time.

LadyRhonwyn.2501:

But her good side is making me not trusting Kiel. Either’s she’s too easily influenced by others or she has a secret agenda. Evon only has one agenda: making his Black Lion Company stronger and stronger. And as the BL is invested heavily in LA, he’ll protect LA as a demolished LA will not be good for business.

LoL.. what is this “secret agenda”? And how is she “too easily influenced by others”? She told her officer that she wanted the stolen items recovered and returned to their rightful owners, he pleaded with her to use them to fund her campaign, and she firmly stated no, making it clear that she wouldn’t build her campaign on the back of innocent victims. Doesn’t seem like she’s too easily influenced to me. Sounds like she stands by her principles.

IMO, here is how this will most likely play out:

The living story already has a destination, for example, personal story’s destination was to get to Orr, kill Zhaitan.

Yes you do get to pick different paths while getting to your destination but in the end did you change the story? looking at the big picture no.

What you will change is going to be which NPC will accompany us in this journey, Evon or Kiel – yes one shows low morals and the other seems to be a bit thankless by taking all the credit when us (players) did all the work.

Now so what are we really voting for?
like my previous posts stated: Content is what will be impacted the most.

Right now as it stands, the only content we get to pick between is either:
Abaddon Fractal if we pick Evon – more epic due to the 6 god we get to encounter (most likely)
or
Reactor if we pick Kiel

Also to address the decision between Waypoints & Black lion keys
Waypoint cost reduction will only save you at the very most maybe 4-5g over the 4 week period. This can be earned in 1 hour.

compare this to the cost of just 1 Black lion key (Ik, many dont buy the keys but still from a cost prespective you have to consider the comparison)
400gems, if you were to convert gold to gems will cost approx: 13g.

So once again, the real decision is between the fractals, so please make the better choice and lets go with the Abaddon fractal which showcases events that pre-date even those off GW1.
Vote for Evon!!!

ZilentNight.5089:

Right now as it stands, the only content we get to pick between is either:
Abaddon Fractal if we pick Evon – more epic due to the 6 god we get to encounter (most likely)

Pure speculation, unfortunately. For all we know the Abaddon fractal will be an underwater dungeon where we fight Margonites in the Cathedral of Hidden Depths (located out in the Straits of Devastation), and zero gods present. Yay? I mean, it’s as likely to be that as what you’re suggesting.

That’s the flaw in basing your decision on a fractal that has zero information available.

Agreed that there is very little information but it has been suggested during the interviews by a ton of lore masters that the battle took place in the city of gods, just seeing that alone will be worth it.

On the other hand, seeing a reactor blow up, we have that in Meterica provice, then we have COE.
Fact: There are many examples of asuran experiments going wrong or sabotaged by inquest, nothing new there.
Also to add to the above, there is an Asuran story line that is based on the “imploding world”, wont give more details out then that but the choice is clear.
No point adding the same content over n over, very redundant and boring.

Even if I drop 100G I don’t think I’ll be able to rock the vote.

Tower Guard.5263:

Even if I drop 100G I don’t think I’ll be able to rock the vote.

That would mean 1000 votes, right? If the difference is about 100 000.. you really wouldnt be.

ZilentNight.5089:

Agreed that there is very little information but it has been suggested during the interviews by a ton of lore masters that the battle took place in the city of gods, just seeing that alone will be worth it.

On the other hand, seeing a reactor blow up, we have that in Meterica provice, then we have COE.

And assuming the fractal will take place in the “city of gods” is pure speculation. We have no idea what a fractal researching “the fall of Abaddon” will entail.

You’re assuming the best case scenario for one fractal while expecting the worst case scenario for the other.

Edge.4180:

ZilentNight.5089:

Agreed that there is very little information but it has been suggested during the interviews by a ton of lore masters that the battle took place in the city of gods, just seeing that alone will be worth it.

On the other hand, seeing a reactor blow up, we have that in Meterica provice, then we have COE.

And assuming the fractal will take place in the “city of gods” is pure speculation. We have no idea what a fractal researching “the fall of Abaddon” will entail.

You’re assuming the best case scenario for one fractal while expecting the worst case scenario for the other.

Like i stated above, yes we have to make some speculation, ofc since the content hasnt even been created yet.
But, What is your logic for picking the reactor over the Abaddon fractal?
My logic is clear, no more redundant content.
There are already huge reactor explosions, bad experiments in the game.
Saying no to redundant content, also its a Fact and not a speculation that there will be yet another reactor explosion in the Kiel fractal.

ZilentNight.5089:

Edge.4180:

ZilentNight.5089:

Agreed that there is very little information but it has been suggested during the interviews by a ton of lore masters that the battle took place in the city of gods, just seeing that alone will be worth it.

On the other hand, seeing a reactor blow up, we have that in Meterica provice, then we have COE.

And assuming the fractal will take place in the “city of gods” is pure speculation. We have no idea what a fractal researching “the fall of Abaddon” will entail.

You’re assuming the best case scenario for one fractal while expecting the worst case scenario for the other.

Like i stated above, yes we have to make some speculation, ofc since the content hasnt even been created yet.
But, What is your logic for picking the reactor over the Abaddon fractal?
My logic is clear, no more redundant content.
There are already huge reactor explosions, bad experiments in the game.
Saying no to redundant content, also its a Fact and not a speculation that there will be yet another reactor explosion in the Kiel fractal.

My reasoning goes beyond fractals, which everyone just speeds through anyway to grind as quickly as possible.

I’ve got my eye more on the living story (which amounts to much more content than a fractal). Ellen Kiel is the soldier/hero brand of character who focuses on the type of dangers that really matter: the important, epic threats.

On the other hand, Evon Gnashblade is a scheming politician. You talk about “redundant” content? Well, I’ve already had my fill of corrupt politicians with Minister Caudecus. Seeing as I was barely entertained with that type of story the first time around, I don’t want to see a string of living story content revolving around dealing with Gnashblade’s schemes for power. /yawn

The sooner he’s out of the picture, the better. Even the most epic Abaddon fractal adventure is going to be cold comfort if I have to put up with another six months of Gnashblade-themed stories. I have no interest in the man behind the cash-shop. I do have an interest in a character like Kiel who lost everything to tragedy.

walk among gods with me not more boring inquisa content evon for president =)

ok we all got that evon its a bad character but why always we go with the good ones why not for once we got with the bad guys to see how the story get a little more complicated lets do some good to a bad kitty =)

carlos.2861:

ok we all got that evon its a bad character but why always we go with the good ones why not for once we got with the bad guys to see how the story get a little more complicated lets do some good to a bad kitty =)

Maybe because we don’t get enough of the “good ones” in real life?

Look at the current political landscape in the real world. Do you really look at congress and say “Well, that’s interesting/complicated”? Or do you just get a little nauseous at all the incompetence the self-interests and political scheming brings?

I’m not really sure I want to drag more of that into the game I’m supposed to be enjoying. :P

Edge.4180:

carlos.2861:

ok we all got that evon its a bad character but why always we go with the good ones why not for once we got with the bad guys to see how the story get a little more complicated lets do some good to a bad kitty =)

Maybe because we don’t get enough of the “good ones” in real life?

Look at the current political landscape in the real world. Do you really look at congress and say “Well, that’s interesting/complicated”? Or do you just get a little nauseous at all the incompetence the self-interests and political scheming brings?

I’m not really sure I want to drag more of that into the game I’m supposed to be enjoying. :P

ok but hello this is a game not real life we all always get bad guys and punish them ect and we will be like that for longgggg time so why we dont give the bad guy an opportunity to see how we can change the course of history on the game

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

You dont get it then. Yeah if thaumanova loses we might see some other asura dungeon, but they wont have the lore that thaumanova has surrounding it.

You’re forgetting that Thaumanova is already in-game and that the lore surrounding it can be built on at any time because it’s there, in the actual playable world and not just in a fractal. The Fall of Abaddon, and pretty much anything pertaining to Abaddon, is not already in the game and cannot be readily built on.

I’m not saying ANET will necessarily build on Thaumanova lore if Kiel loses or that even if they did that it would include the information that would have been revealed in the fractal, but the lore is not already neatly tied up the way Abaddon’s is. It is far more likely for ANET to tackle the issues of Thaumanova in its current state without the fractal than it is for ANET to tackle the Fall of Abaddon without the fractal.

Silicato.4603:

I agree with the people who says that fractal is not the key question in this battle. At least in my mind is not. That is why i base my vote in character personality and keys vs wp.
Kiel is the winner.

So you’re saying the thing everyone should be voting for is the thing that will only last for a few weeks, and not the permanent content? …? Did I get that right?

Archmortal.1027:

Rainbow Sprint.3215:

You dont get it then. Yeah if thaumanova loses we might see some other asura dungeon, but they wont have the lore that thaumanova has surrounding it.

You’re forgetting that Thaumanova is already in-game and that the lore surrounding it can be built on at any time because it’s there, in the actual playable world and not just in a fractal. The Fall of Abaddon, and pretty much anything pertaining to Abaddon, is not already in the game and cannot be readily built on.

I’m not saying ANET will necessarily build on Thaumanova lore if Kiel loses or that even if they did that it would include the information that would have been revealed in the fractal, but the lore is not already neatly tied up the way Abaddon’s is. It is far more likely for ANET to tackle the issues of Thaumanova in its current state without the fractal than it is for ANET to tackle the Fall of Abaddon without the fractal.

You’re making the assumption that the events of the reactor fractal would be content taking place after the disaster. As long as we’re making assumptions, it could just as easily be events that take place before the accident, with players taking the role of Inquest troops at the moments leading up to and through reactor explosion. Heck, the party could be the cause of the entire disaster. That’s not something you can portray now in the current playable area, it would require a new map (hence the fractal).

Archmortal.1027:

Silicato.4603:

I agree with the people who says that fractal is not the key question in this battle. At least in my mind is not. That is why i base my vote in character personality and keys vs wp.
Kiel is the winner.

So you’re saying the thing everyone should be voting for is the thing that will only last for a few weeks, and not the permanent content? …? Did I get that right?

What value should be placed on permanent content? If someone plays the fractal once (or not at all) and then is done with it, but makes continual use out of the temporary waypoint/key discount, you can hardly argue that the fractal reward should be of greater value to them. Vote on what’s important to you. But don’t expect everyone to share your priority.

Completely agree with Archmortal.
This is exactly the reasoning that Kiel should not win.

Also, there is no guarantee she will not continue to take credit for all our hardwork.
Id rather have a fun story where Evon keeps things interesting rather than a boring story with Kiel /yawn…

Edge.4180:

You’re making the assumption that the events of the reactor fractal would be content taking place after the disaster.

I’m actually assuming that the events of the reactor fractal would be content taking place BEFORE the disaster, thus why building on Thaumanova as it currently is in-game wouldn’t necessarily include potential fractal content. (Plus you know, that’s how it’s being advertised- investigation into the things that led to its current state- i.e. The Past)

As long as we’re making assumptions, it could just as easily be events that take place before the accident, with players taking the role of Inquest troops at the moments leading up to and through reactor explosion. Heck, the party could be the cause of the entire disaster. That’s not something you can portray now in the current playable area, it would require a new map (hence the fractal).

Yep, this is what I’m assuming.

What value should be placed on permanent content? If someone plays the fractal once (or not at all) and then is done with it, but makes continual use out of the temporary waypoint/key discount, you can hardly argue that the fractal reward should be of greater value to them. Vote on what’s important to you. But don’t expect everyone to share your priority.

Not to be a slippery slope but you may as well apply this logic to every part of the existing game world. Is continual use of a temporary discount more valuable than Queensdale? Lion’s Arch? Citadel of Flame? Southsun Island? The permanent content is more game to play whether an individual makes use of it or not, because let’s face it, not everyone has the Been There, Done That title, nor has everyone run every dungeon, nor participated in every fractal. The permanent content is intrinsically more valuable to the game itself.

How can we be expected to support a Charr when ArenaNet developers have quite openly stated they are no longer supporting Charr-compatiable content in future releases?

AnthonyOrdon.3926:

Just ask yourselves if you really want to elect a fancy cat with a lead designer in his pocket. We’ll just have double up our support for Kiel on SATURDAY.

Brought to you by the people against smelly animals in office.

Hater!

I like how the evon voters are all hyping up the fact that fall of the abalone will be as tasty as anet claims they’ll cook. From our experience, we’ve seen multiple times where the chances of Anet delivering content in which it satisfies most of us is about 3/10. Even in the extremely unlikely RnG that anet does manage to pull through and give us a decent dungeon, the hype will have diminished it’s worth so it’s better to go in with a little lower expectations. After all, it is a fractal and I can’t imagine it having anymore depth and involvement than the ascalon one. Personally I think the reactor one will be a much better fit for a fractal than something like fall of the abalone which by itself deserves a dungeon or perhaps a multi arc personal story flashback.

If you’ve got this far into the post you’ve probably realised i’m a Kiel supporter. I support Kiel for the same reason my cat doesn’t get a say in my household or most of their food choices (biscuit or cat meat, oh sorry we’re out of cat meat pikachu) but most importantly…………

boobs.

carlos.2861:

ok but hello this is a game not real life we all always get bad guys and punish them ect and we will be like that for longgggg time so why we dont give the bad guy an opportunity to see how we can change the course of history on the game

Largely?

Because I’d like to see some of the existing bad guys get some time. For the people who want political shenanigans, there’s Caudecus in Kryta, and Lazurus scheming somewhere in the background. The centaurs and Nightmare Court are still going concerns despite not having been touched since release. There’s five dragons still out there, Palawa Joko, whatever’s happening in Cantha, whatever dren may be going down in the Mists, plus those who have been in Living Story already.

Basically, if Evon is villainous (something I’m not convinced of even as a Kiel supporter, but let’s say he is for the sake of argument) then frankly I’d prefer that merchant-turned-corrupt-politician doesn’t steal attention from antagonists I’m actually interested in.

Who actually winning and by how much?

bah,

Id rather vote for a Skritt, at least they have shinies.

Don’t vote for either, it’s either a furry or a bookah, neither candidate will stimulate an Asuran intellect, what we need is an Asuran candidate to join this race. Then it will be explosive, pun intended.

Brought to you from the race that brought you guns and gates.

I really want Evon to win soley due to the Abaddon fractal and all the new things it has a chance to bring that we might not ever have a chance to see in Gw2 ever again. Sure the reactor could be cool but it’s already in game so we can see the after effects of the explosion. The inquest are a huge part of gw2(asuran personal story, CoE, jumping puzzles, activity in a lot of zones) and will continue to get more support as we find more out about the elder dragons as they have a obsession with their magic. While the gods and especially abaddon(1 personal story mission 1 temple in game) probably won’t have a huge involvement in Gw2 for a while if at all. The margonites and the crystal sea will most likely never be seen again the only thing that has a could show up in the abaddon fractal that might show up later is the forgotten which would be really cool to see as well. This is all speculation of course but I just see a lot more coming from the abaddon fractal that i would personally enjoy.

TLDR

Vote Evon! Abaddon! Margonites! Crystal Sea! The Forgotten!

Some of you seem to be under the impression that the amount of content is going to be something between a living-story/monthly release and an expansion, rather than a 10-15 minute fractal which players are going to want to focus on racing through as quickly as possible. Curb those expectations and don’t throw away your votes on a pipe dream.

Edge.4180:

Some of you seem to be under the impression that the amount of content is going to be something between a living-story/monthly release and an expansion, rather than a 10-15 minute fractal which players are going to want to focus on racing through as quickly as possible. Curb those expectations and don’t throw away your votes on a pipe dream.

This is exactly what I expect.

For 1 second players will go “Ohhhhh! Ahhhh! Very cool looking!”

to….

“diz FoTM again? srsly diz iz bad, gimme me relikz alrdy!”

Edge.4180:

Some of you seem to be under the impression that the amount of content is going to be something between a living-story/monthly release and an expansion, rather than a 10-15 minute fractal which players are going to want to focus on racing through as quickly as possible. Curb those expectations and don’t throw away your votes on a pipe dream.

Some of us here like to play through the entire content and not just race through it. Also you are speculating just like everyone else that the fractal wont be epic and that anet will let us down, that is your opinion.
There is plenty of amazing content that Anet has delivered in small patches, eg Molten Facility end fight alone was pretty epic.
They have amazing designers who are more than capable of given us mind blowing content. I will continue to put my faith in them and hope for the best.
I hope the majority of the players do the same and vote for Evon Gnashblade.

People also should keep in mind that just because the current Fractals are short and random does not mean the future added Fractals will be.
For all we know they will add a new system where you can select a specific Fractal to run and such.

give me flame and frost dungeon again already. Pfft to the fractal.

Looking for more, fractal level 20, but I am only fractal 1, can I still go? what’s your AR, it’s my first fractal. Sorry mate, if you had 25 AR, we would gamble on you, sorry.

Looking for group, fractal level 1 ( Two hours later), getting permanent supressed messages). (still waiting for a group)

Kiel is a secret inquest agent in disguise that will cause a reactor leak, which could lead to an explosion if you don’t handle the obstacles quick enough.

Evon is actually Abbadon, you can see it in his smile.

Folly, it is not going to be beneficial to you to do such a high lvl fractal since the rewards are based on your personal reward lvl. You can still however repeat fractal 8 till you lvl up, finding a low level group is easy, try gw2lfg.com.
At lvl 10+ u will get rings as drops, 2 rings = 10AR
You can also pick up an ascended amulet for laurels which will give u +5 AR
Earrings can also be easily acquired by doing full set of guild missions just 2 times.

Getting AR is quite easy currently with so many options available to us.
Once you have 15 AR, you can play up to lvl 28 given you dodge some of the agony attacks during the final boss fights.

Going back to topic, if Evon was Abaddon, then he would have already won

ZilentNight.5089:

There is plenty of amazing content that Anet has delivered in small patches, eg Molten Facility end fight alone was pretty epic.
They have amazing designers who are more than capable of given us mind blowing content. I will continue to put my faith in them and hope for the best.
I hope the majority of the players do the same and vote for Evon Gnashblade.

FOR ABADDON! ahem…. I mean… FOR EVON!

I Agree, Molten Facility had the best fight in the game in my opinion. Multi-stage fight, insta-kill danger, and consequences for killing one guy before the other. Almost felt like raiding in WoW again, was fun

LumAnth.5124:

Edge.4180:

Some of you seem to be under the impression that the amount of content is going to be something between a living-story/monthly release and an expansion, rather than a 10-15 minute fractal which players are going to want to focus on racing through as quickly as possible. Curb those expectations and don’t throw away your votes on a pipe dream.

This is exactly what I expect.

For 1 second players will go “Ohhhhh! Ahhhh! Very cool looking!”

to….

“diz FoTM again? srsly diz iz bad, gimme me relikz alrdy!”

Pretty much. As I stated elsewhere… if it is put in the random rotation rather than being a special selected thing, it will either be a disappointment for those wanting something epic (because it’s short and shallow) or it’ll be something that fractal runners will come to dread coming up in the rotation after the novelty wears off (because it’s painfully long compared to other fractals).

Anet wants you to vote for Evon, more key sales = more money and that’s what they care about

HAIL ABADDON!
Blood for the blood god!
SLAUGHTER them ALL!

I wonder what underhanded backroom promises Evon made to Izzy…

Edge.4180:

Maybe because we don’t get enough of the “good ones” in real life?

Look at the current political landscape in the real world. Do you really look at congress and say “Well, that’s interesting/complicated”? Or do you just get a little nauseous at all the incompetence the self-interests and political scheming brings?

I’m not really sure I want to drag more of that into the game I’m supposed to be enjoying. :P

You nailed it.

The story in this game will, quite frankly, never be about our characters (and a kitten ed shame that is too). Faced with the outlook of being the eternal silent errand girl to the NPCs, I’d much rather help an upstanding person than a money-grubbing jerkwad schemer.

(And even if I absolutely adored Evon, the gambling aspect of the Black Lion Chests and similar gem store stuff would be enough to make me refuse to vote for him.)

draxynnic.3719:

Because I’d like to see some of the existing bad guys get some time.

A very good point! This is the same reason why I’m irritated about the Aetherblades. There’s so much interesting potential in this setting, and so many players have complained about how shallow the game’s writing has been so far, not doing justice to that lore, lacking continuity. Why dilute it even further? Stuff Evon and the “kewl” Steampunk pirates, give me the Nightmare Court or the White Mantle or some other villain camp that I’ve been eager to learn more about for months, and that frankly needs the attention if we’re supposed to take it seriously as an ongoing threat.

The same holds true for the “good guys” too, by the way. While I like Kiel well enough, I still wish they’d have given her spotlight time to established characters instead.