Personal politics are ugly enough in the real world.
When you bring those elements into a space we’re supposed to be having fun in, it turns it ugly, especially when it’s centered around low-information “voters” who saw a pretty white Mary Sue and just tossed their tokens at that.
Now you’ll have just under half of the playerbase, the majority of which have probably been around since GW1 days and spent more money on the game, feeling robbed of interesting content and an interesting character in the mix. When that large a number of your playerbase feels cheated by a slim majority, especially when the mechanics are in question, you’re going to have a lot of negative fallout just like in an actual “election”.
We got a tease of something as monumental as witnessing THE FALL OF A GOD.
Now we’re going to get an aesthetic retread of CoE.
Couldn’t agree more. I was so excited to hear that Fall of Abaddon was going to be a fractal event in GW2. Apparently people wanted a less exciting alternative. And player voting was the cause of us not seeing that. Really a shame. Especially since everything surrounding both NPCs had Gnashblade set up to fail.
Agreed whole-heartedly. NEVER force us to lose content like this again. I’m sad that over half the playerbase wants Inquest lab 2304, over the fall of a god, and now we miss out on it forever. This is just going to cause more and more anger.
I solve practical problems.
F’rinstance, how am I going to stop some big mean mother Charr from downing me?
The answer… use a turret. And if that don’t work.. use more turrets.
Personal politics are ugly enough in the real world.
When you bring those elements into a space we’re supposed to be having fun in, it turns it ugly, especially when it’s centered around low-information “voters” who saw a pretty white Mary Sue and just tossed their tokens at that.
Now you’ll have just under half of the playerbase, the majority of which have probably been around since GW1 days and spent more money on the game, feeling robbed of interesting content and an interesting character in the mix. When that large a number of your playerbase feels cheated by a slim majority, especially when the mechanics are in question, you’re going to have a lot of negative fallout just like in an actual “election”.
We got a tease of something as monumental as witnessing THE FALL OF A GOD.
Now we’re going to get an aesthetic retread of CoE.
I don’t want them to do it ever again because it is clear they fail at making it balanced. Putting a known against an unknown and something hated hardcore like RNG keys against something well liked such as waypoints.
I’d rather there but no choice over the illusion of choice.
I disagree, ArenaNet SHOULD make use of this kind of Living Story in the future.
They only should make it a personal choice, based on the character, and keep the benefits for winning hidden.
Now you’ll have just under half of the playerbase, the majority of which have probably been around since GW1 days and spent more money on the game, feeling robbed of interesting content and an interesting character in the mix. When that large a number of your playerbase feels cheated by a slim majority, especially when the mechanics are in question, you’re going to have a lot of negative fallout just like in an actual “election”.
Not everyone who voted Kiel was a newbie who doesn’t know what’s going on in the game. Sometimes people who have been around since GW1 are tired of putting neutral grey/dark people in power. I voted by story, not by fractal.
Not everyone who voted Kiel was a newbie who doesn’t know what’s going on in the game. Sometimes people who have been around since GW1 are tired of putting neutral grey/dark people in power. I voted by story, not by fractal.
Your personal voting preference doesn’t matter in majority politics.
Net result is the same.
Slim minority who spends more money on the game gets embittered and the community gets…
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
I don’t really think that would have happened. Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature. I am just being a petty and poor winner because those specific Evon supporters annoyed me. Had Evon won, my response would have been “Ah well, there will probably be another way to find out what happened”. But because the Evon side has handled themselves during the campaign… yeah, they deserve to have it rubbed in.
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
The same way. And no, I believe that these heavily divisive events are just a bad idea.
I solve practical problems.
F’rinstance, how am I going to stop some big mean mother Charr from downing me?
The answer… use a turret. And if that don’t work.. use more turrets.
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
Better, but there’d still be terrible fallout and a player base divided with half actually asking ANET if they can literally assassinate the new elected official.
It was inherently a bad idea to do this.
But the bigger point is there wasn’t a content vote. There was a vote between an eeeeeevil mancat and a white Mary Sue. I’m sure plenty of voters probably never even clicked the “tell me more” button, a vast number don’t even come to the forums or the website.
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature.
I disagree. Considering the reactions of some Kiel supporters, I find them just to be just as shouty/annoying/loud as some Evon supporters. In fact, the casual racism of most Kiel supporters I’ve seen has convinced me that they’re the opposite of mature.
I saw more than a “pretty white (not sure why you had to bring her skin colour into this) Mary Sue”. So in your face with a can of mace, make you cry all over the place!
I don’t really think that would have happened. Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature. I am just being a petty and poor winner because those specific Evon supporters annoyed me. Had Evon won, my response would have been “Ah well, there will probably be another way to find out what happened”. But because the Evon side has handled themselves during the campaign… yeah, they deserve to have it rubbed in.
A doubly-hasty generalization. What you see in game on both sides is only a portion of each player segment, in terms of maturity / rage.
The reactions of people like you who think that this should be “rubbed in” is why I don’t want to see anything like this happen again – needless, large amounts of rage.
I solve practical problems.
F’rinstance, how am I going to stop some big mean mother Charr from downing me?
The answer… use a turret. And if that don’t work.. use more turrets.
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature.
I disagree. Considering the reactions of some Kiel supporters, I find them just to be just as shouty/annoying/loud as some Evon supporters. In fact, the casual racism of most Kiel supporters I’ve seen has convinced me that they’re the opposite of mature.
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature.
I disagree. Considering the reactions of some Kiel supporters, I find them just to be just as shouty/annoying/loud as some Evon supporters. In fact, the casual racism of most Kiel supporters I’ve seen has convinced me that they’re the opposite of mature.
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature.
I disagree. Considering the reactions of some Kiel supporters, I find them just to be just as shouty/annoying/loud as some Evon supporters. In fact, the casual racism of most Kiel supporters I’ve seen has convinced me that they’re the opposite of mature.
I don’t really think that would have happened. Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature. I am just being a petty and poor winner because those specific Evon supporters annoyed me. Had Evon won, my response would have been “Ah well, there will probably be another way to find out what happened”. But because the Evon side has handled themselves during the campaign… yeah, they deserve to have it rubbed in.
A doubly-hasty generalization. What you see in game on both sides is only a portion of each player segment, in terms of maturity / rage.
The reactions of people like you who think that this should be “rubbed in” is why I don’t want to see anything like this happen again – needless, large amounts of rage.
Cause and effect, again. Maybe the Evon fanatics shouldn’t have called us casual noobs with no more than 20 silver et cetera.
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature.
I disagree. Considering the reactions of some Kiel supporters, I find them just to be just as shouty/annoying/loud as some Evon supporters. In fact, the casual racism of most Kiel supporters I’ve seen has convinced me that they’re the opposite of mature.
I don’t really think that would have happened. Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature. I am just being a petty and poor winner because those specific Evon supporters annoyed me. Had Evon won, my response would have been “Ah well, there will probably be another way to find out what happened”. But because the Evon side has handled themselves during the campaign… yeah, they deserve to have it rubbed in.
A doubly-hasty generalization. What you see in game on both sides is only a portion of each player segment, in terms of maturity / rage.
The reactions of people like you who think that this should be “rubbed in” is why I don’t want to see anything like this happen again – needless, large amounts of rage.
Cause and effect, again. Maybe the Evon fanatics shouldn’t have called us casual noobs with no more than 20 silver et cetera.
And the Kiel fanatics should probably have considered not stating that their reason for not voting Evon is solely because he’s a Charr.
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature.
I disagree. Considering the reactions of some Kiel supporters, I find them just to be just as shouty/annoying/loud as some Evon supporters. In fact, the casual racism of most Kiel supporters I’ve seen has convinced me that they’re the opposite of mature.
I don’t really think that would have happened. Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature. I am just being a petty and poor winner because those specific Evon supporters annoyed me. Had Evon won, my response would have been “Ah well, there will probably be another way to find out what happened”. But because the Evon side has handled themselves during the campaign… yeah, they deserve to have it rubbed in.
A doubly-hasty generalization. What you see in game on both sides is only a portion of each player segment, in terms of maturity / rage.
The reactions of people like you who think that this should be “rubbed in” is why I don’t want to see anything like this happen again – needless, large amounts of rage.
Cause and effect, again. Maybe the Evon fanatics shouldn’t have called us casual noobs with no more than 20 silver et cetera.
And the Kiel fanatics should probably have considered not stating that their reason for not voting Evon is solely because he’s a Charr.
See? Nobody’s innocent.
Disagreed. At least the race (or species) was at least related to the candidates, it did not attack the voters. So.. yeah, the only crime is role palying in an RPG. What a crime!
So you don’t want another content vote because you lost? How would you feel if Evon had won, and Kiel supporters wrote the same message?
Overall the Kiel supporters tend to be less shouty/annoying/loud and a bit more mature.
I disagree. Considering the reactions of some Kiel supporters, I find them just to be just as shouty/annoying/loud as some Evon supporters. In fact, the casual racism of most Kiel supporters I’ve seen has convinced me that they’re the opposite of mature.
And yet the other side displays staggering acts of casual sexism. You can’t pretend one side is the only one bad while the other side is equally deserving of contempt.
