Guild Wars 2

I kno ay, effigies are stupid, we should go around to all of the effigies and just burn them, to show that we don’t like them. Who’s with me \o/ !!

Beware, beware, the fanboys comes.

But yes, pretty stupid but at least we don’t have to run like idiots to beat other players.

Very boring. I thought we would at least light something and burn it up. I suppose lighting something up without burning it makes sense with dragons? /shrug

Tobbygnome.6793:

I kno ay, effigies are stupid, we should go around to all of the effigies and just burn them, to show that we don’t like them. Who’s with me \o/ !!

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What you did there. I see it.

I dunno about your particular server, but one of the great cultural traditions on Tarnished Coast is to dance at the spawning location of major world bosses. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the events spawn faster, the things go down quicker, and legendary precursors are often dropped in abundance if the correct dance is performed.

With the above precedent in mind, I see no problems with dancing to light effigies on fire. 8D

Stupid game using boring mechanics like hitting buttons on the keyboard. I will only consider it content if I have to hit buttons on something else!!!

Try this. Instead of just mindlessly zerging to every WP and then complaining about how fast and boring it is, run between them and do the events in the area. I did about 50 different events, many of which I had never seen before while running around and finding them. It broke it up, made it more exciting and was fun.

ZudetGambeous.9573:

Stupid game using boring mechanics like hitting buttons on the keyboard. I will only consider it content if I have to hit buttons on something else!!!

Try this. Instead of just mindlessly zerging to every WP and then complaining about how fast and boring it is, run between them and do the events in the area. I did about 50 different events, many of which I had never seen before while running around and finding them. It broke it up, made it more exciting and was fun.

This only works if you are new to the game. Or new to PvE.

That’s why they are called Effigies, or "F"y, geez.

I don’t really understand it from a story perspective. Considering what happened in the instance area, shouldn’t we be suspicious of the effigies? At least until we figure out what happened and why that effigy went ballistic? How do we know we aren’t enabling some evil ritual that will consume all of tyria? Unless I missed something in the instance that told us that we knew it was just that one effigy.

doing each once = reasonably acceptable (though I feel 30 is too many considering the lack of real content in lighting the effigies).

doing some more than once = pointless grind.

You get an item (Wearable in combat) for completing 10 achievements (Dragonball achievements no longer count) and you got 3 helms + an achievement for watching fireworks. Ungrateful much.

Zeivu.3615:

You get an item (Wearable in combat) for completing 10 achievements (Dragonball achievements no longer count) and you got 3 helms + an achievement for watching fireworks. Ungrateful much.

in GW1 you would have gotten as many helms as you wanted for all your characters instead of just one of each armor class

Noone is forcing you to run around and burn those statues..

Like the fireworks some tasks like this can be seen as a place for the players like me that enjoy role playing to make it a creative event. I’ve had some fun with my guild/friends running around making a party out of them. Granted we didn’t do it with all of them but we still used some imagination to make the task more enjoyable.

Sounds like you just don’t want to run around the map.

I’d also like to say one word to counter your entire "fire on dry grass" argument: "Magic."

daimasei.4091:

Beware, beware, the fanboys comes.

But yes, pretty stupid but at least we don’t have to run like idiots to beat other players.

This should be made into a song, with a Christmas theme to it… that I can play in every thread that doesn’t support what Anet does.

LtTiger.4568:

Noone is forcing you to run around and burn those statues..

This hit the nail on the head.

RyuDragnier.9476:

LtTiger.4568:

Noone is forcing you to run around and burn those statues..

This hit the nail on the head.

Just because you aren’t forced to do it, doesn’t mean it’s immune from criticism. This forum is about feedback, and it’s fair to say that running around burning 50 effigies is tedious non-content. Should we never provide negative feedback on optional content, because we “don’t have to do it”? No. I think it’s fair to call these achievements what they are: an un-fun grind. There are ways to make them more fun, but there’s nothing inherently fun in them.

Xavori.3768:

Second, who was the brilliant mind behind setting effigies on fire by dancing? How exactly does that work? Are we droppin’ it like it was hot, only literally? Is this some ancient Sylvari magic that causes wood to combust through a formerly secretly ritual? (and yes, I’m intentionally putting ancient and Sylvari together because it makes as much sense as anything else to do with effigies.)

Disco Inferno!

Sad to see GW2 sink to the same level as last generation grinder MMOs.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Alliance_Bonfire
http://www.wowpedia.org/Horde_Bonfire

Tachenon.5270:

Xavori.3768:

Second, who was the brilliant mind behind setting effigies on fire by dancing? How exactly does that work? Are we droppin’ it like it was hot, only literally? Is this some ancient Sylvari magic that causes wood to combust through a formerly secretly ritual? (and yes, I’m intentionally putting ancient and Sylvari together because it makes as much sense as anything else to do with effigies.)

Disco Inferno!

The dance is a secret summoning.

actually i like very much the dance, i did it with silly clothes and also naked and it never get old for me, and i didn’t mind to switch character and do it again just to get 50 effigies!
and yes, dancing around a bonfire is a very ancient ritual.
also, if you read the mail, the festival organizer putted those effigies along the way, so no, i’m not suspicious, i defeat dragons, should i fear poor steampunk terrorist?^^

I thought it was pretty funny the first time i did it.

swiftpaw.6397:

Tachenon.5270:

Xavori.3768:

Second, who was the brilliant mind behind setting effigies on fire by dancing? How exactly does that work? Are we droppin’ it like it was hot, only literally? Is this some ancient Sylvari magic that causes wood to combust through a formerly secretly ritual? (and yes, I’m intentionally putting ancient and Sylvari together because it makes as much sense as anything else to do with effigies.)

Disco Inferno!

The dance is a secret summoning.

HAHAHAHA Kuma-mon. LOVE IT!!!!

Xavori.3768:

But it gets better. There are 30 effigies on the maps total. You need 50 for the achievement. So not only do you get to experience this awesomely complex and enjoyable content once at 30 locations, but you’re going to do at least 20 of the exact same thing because it’s so much fun and not at all a stupid grind that ANet wanted us to waypoint around the newbie zones twice. So much awesomesauce!

Wait you waypoint? Wow I am too cheap to wp just about anywhere. I use PvP or WvW just to get back to LA so I dont have to spend the silver.

Yeah I found this to be really bland and silly. I had no problems doing it just by switching to alts…But i don’t really get it…

LtTiger.4568:

Noone is forcing you to run around and burn those statues..

“nobody is forcing you to do the daily”
“nobody is forcing you to get weapon skins”
“nobody is forcing you to log in to get laurels for ascended items”
" nobody is forcing you to play this game"
“you don’t NEED (item x) to play the game”
“this game is just not for you"

That’s it……my head just exploded. :-/

swap weapons after interacting with the effigie to avoid the dancing , and still get the achievment

You don’t have to even swap or press esc. You can just run away or maptravel to the next one.

I agree. 50 is just boring. There is nothing fun in running from one to another (I actually WPed between them).
If it was 10 I would understand. 50 – just pointless.

There is no fun in slaying 1000 of 1 type of creature either.
Or discovering every PoI on the Borderlands 3 times over.

Achievements by nature mostly suck. I don’t see this one as any different.

That being said, had a pretty fun time with my run with all sorts of stupid jokes going on in map chats

Dedlaw.9130:

There is no fun in slaying 1000 of 1 type of creature either.
Or discovering every PoI on the Borderlands 3 times over.

Achievements by nature mostly suck. I don’t see this one as any different.

That being said, had a pretty fun time with my run with all sorts of stupid jokes going on in map chats

To me that’s different, because those things are more dynamic than WPing and dancing for a second in front of an effigy. Discovering those POIs with enemy players trying to kill me is fun, IMO. It’s just not that static.
And besides those achievements are permanent, meaning i can do a part of it today, a part of it in a month. No need to do it whole in 3 days.

I can agree but on other hand it was a pleasant trip thru zones. Everything is better than Crap Toss daily

rfdarko.4639:

RyuDragnier.9476:

LtTiger.4568:

Noone is forcing you to run around and burn those statues..

This hit the nail on the head.

Just because you aren’t forced to do it, doesn’t mean it’s immune from criticism. This forum is about feedback, and it’s fair to say that running around burning 50 effigies is tedious non-content. Should we never provide negative feedback on optional content, because we “don’t have to do it”? No. I think it’s fair to call these achievements what they are: an un-fun grind. There are ways to make them more fun, but there’s nothing inherently fun in them.

There is no GRIND in Guild wars 2! I am a JEDI, doing the mind trick on y’all!

Instead of dancing. Have players collect materials nearby to light the Effigies. Then players just need to watch for a little for gain a buff and achievement. Reduce the number to complete the achievement.

Also the Effigies are not always in good spot. They should be highly visible with npc around waiting for players to lite the Effigies. Add NPC dialogue about the dragon festival around the Effigies. Make lighting effigies a DE that repeats.

Effigies/Pinatas should be in every city, and major town.

These suggestions are more for next years Dragon Bash.

Burning the effigies is, apparently, a ritual intrinsic to the Dragon Festival itself. It’s symbolic. That alone qualifies it as consistent with the storyline. However, I can’t argue that it’s too simplistic content-wise to be done for anything other than the achievement. Then again, it’s just one isolated thing amongst several for the event, so I’d suggest people try to stop whining bout every frickin’ little detail and chill out a bit.

I’m curious if OP would actually be brave enough to say directly to an ANet dev in person, that their content is “idiotic”. Is there not a less insulting way of expressing a dislike for content? Maybe it’s just me.

Sometimes I don’t see a direct rationality behind certain things, and there are some things I am not completely positive about, and if that is the case I either don’t do them, or just enjoy it for what it is, even if it makes little sense to me.

Do like me. Have a go at holo’s, effigies and even the casual pOI at the same time.
It get’s much more fun

PolarisNova.3867:

I’m curious if OP would actually be brave enough to say directly to an ANet dev in person, that their content is “idiotic”. Is there not a less insulting way of expressing a dislike for content? Maybe it’s just me.

Sometimes I don’t see a direct rationality behind certain things, and there are some things I am not completely positive about, and if that is the case I either don’t do them, or just enjoy it for what it is, even if it makes little sense to me.

Ya. Actually I would have no problem telling someone to their face when something they are doing is idiotic, and I would hope that if I’m doing something stupid, they’d point it out to me as well. Things works better when honest and totally open communication occur.

As for applying tact…what word for mindless, meaningless, boring, repetitive content that also doesn’t make sense from the way humans would behave or even meet the most trivial level of common sense would you like me to have used? There is nothing inherently defensible about this bit of “content”.

Now, people have tried defending it by point out stuff they did, but none of what they did had anything to do with the content provided. In every case so far, what they’ve described is stuff they did IN SPITE OF HOW BAD THE CONTENT IS.

As for the “well, you don’t have to do it” crowd. I don’t have to play the game or pay ANet any more money either. That’d be a brilliant attitude for the devs to take. They’d have no more players left within a year if they kept making content nobody wanted to play and dismissed criticism with “well, you don’t have to do it” because eventually players agree and stop doing it…completely.

This might sound harsh, but that’s because I really do enjoy actually playing the game even though I have yet to find any part of ANet’s storytelling to be even remotely interesting. Almost every bit of writing in the game is filled with bad tropes presented with seemingly no effort.

This event also felt like something that someone put together in 5 minutes or so. Grab the effigy that the artists made for the ceremony and plunk it down randomly all over the newbie zones without any rhyme or reason. YAY CONTENT.

So ya, I’m going to be harsh. The effigy ‘content’ was idiotic. Not one single bit of it makes any freakin’ sense. And idiotic by any other name would still smell as stupid.

It’s just like dragon pignatas: 30 is fun, 300 is mindless grinding. 5-10 effigies is fun, 50 forces you to do the same effigies more than once..where’s the fun in that..?

Mif.3471:

Sad to see GW2 sink to the same level as last generation grinder MMOs.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Alliance_Bonfire
http://www.wowpedia.org/Horde_Bonfire

Except those were done much better.

Mif.3471:

Sad to see GW2 sink to the same level as last generation grinder MMOs.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Alliance_Bonfire
http://www.wowpedia.org/Horde_Bonfire

That was fun, sitting at the enemy scum…I mean Alliance cities omnomnoming their corpses & vice versa, warcrafts events involved copious amounts of world pvping

gw2 version is run somewhere, press F, move quickly to stop the dance, rinse & repeat /yaaaawns.

Luckily, I don`t care about the wings, play a Charr & they look wrong on them.
Did three effigies, the tedium set in, gave it up sharpish

LtTiger.4568:

Noone is forcing you to run around and burn those statues..

It’s still dumb.

Tobbygnome.6793:

I kno ay, effigies are stupid, we should go around to all of the effigies and just burn them, to show that we don’t like them. Who’s with me \o/ !!

The sad thing is even if you go and burn all effigies on all maps it still won’t be enough for the achievement. Korean style mmos ftw….

I was expecting foes to spawn from the effigies, I dont know how this buring them is tied to the story.

A lot of people will start to like the game the moment they stop threating it like a checklist imho.

Its true there is nothing exiting about walking up to an effigy and hit F but there is a journey to be had between effigies. As long as you dont teleport from one to the other and allow yourself to be distracted from an effigy to the next there is a lot of fun to be had and a good reason to enjoy multiple zones.

For me Effigies are kind like hearts just a marker to give you your exploration a general direction nothing else. Do that an Effigies become just a buff between adventures in different geo locations.

Galen Grey.4709:

A lot of people will start to like the game the moment they stop threating it like a checklist imho.

Its true there is nothing exiting about walking up to an effigy and hit F but there is a journey to be had between effigies. As long as you dont teleport from one to the other and allow yourself to be distracted from an effigy to the next there is a lot of fun to be had and a good reason to enjoy multiple zones.

For me Effigies are kind like hearts just a marker to give you your exploration a general direction nothing else. Do that an Effigies become just a buff between adventures in different geo locations.

I’ve done those journeys over a hundred times at this point. How is doing it one..err two since we have to visit the same effigies twice…going to be any different?

But again, you’re not defending the new ‘content’. Because you can’t. Because it’s indefensible. It’s an utter waste of time for everyone involved, including the 5 minutes it took some dev to stick the effigies on the map and write up the script to update the character variable.

Hey guys! Don’t worry. This kind of content is all you are going to get. There is nothing else coming in the future.

Must be a bunch of blind employees at this company.

All I ever hear is ‘We are looking into it.’ and then nothing.