Guild Wars 2

LA is going to get destroyed. Or at least severely altered, Stormwind/Orgrimmar style. Who’s with me?

Hopefully this will lead to mystic forges in all the racial cities, with a shared city chat channel between all 5 cities

They can nuke it into the ground for all I care because I have the infinite Royal Terrace pass.

We should do a farewell party for old Lions Arch if that would happen. Oh wait, maybe we should gather for a solemn mourn for its loss? Or maybe both!

JustTrogdor.7892:

They can nuke it into the ground for all I care because I have the infinite Royal Terrace pass.

I go to WvW Borderlands!

If the giant drill thingy is coming down on LA i am not against it.. as long as they keep the ruins mostly unaffected.

I do not care much about the new stuff, since it is some patchwork design and destruction could lead to a much more interesting design that way, but if they destroy the fond memories of the old LA then i will be seriously sad

Steel Fenrir.2791:

We should do a farewell party for old Lions Arch if that would happen. Oh wait, maybe we should gather for a solemn mourn for its loss? Or maybe both!

Oh my god — you just reminded me.

Lion’s Arch will be the mirror of Ascalon of Pre-Searing, and Scarlet is probably going to decimate the landscape, turning the beautiful city into the wasteland of Old Lion’s Arch, just like Old Ascalon.

Let’s just be hopeful that Scarlet can live up to what The Searing did to scar its mark in history.

wouldn’t it be old old lions arch and old lions arch then the ruins of lions arch. Cause like…theres already old lions arch aka in the water. But then if scarlet ruins current lions arch that’d be the new old lions arch….and then whatever remains would be the new current lions arch……..lions arch…..my head hurts.

So…There’s going to be a new Lion’s Arch on top of the ruins of 3 previous Lion’s Arch’s?

Ruined/invaded Lion’s Arch as a much needed new dungeon!

lf1m LA p1

Lions Arch has personal story quests inside it:
- The starting location (green marker)
- Some personal stories take place inside Lions Arch, they’d have to remake the personal stories.

Hence Lions Arch will not be destroyed in any large scale or meaningful way.

calling it now: Entire GW2 as of now is what pre was in GW1 … the real game starts after LS season 1 ends

;)

thaooo.5320:

Lions Arch has personal story quests inside it:
- The starting location (green marker)
- Some personal stories take place inside Lions Arch, they’d have to remake the personal stories.

Hence Lions Arch will not be destroyed in any large scale or meaningful way.

ANet has called that “anything is fair game” and “anything can be destroyed”.
They have some 350 employees and guestimatingly about 80 working on living story. There is a -huge- room for rewriting the entire personal story if needed.

Now I’m not sure they would do it…
But if they really want to show us something spectacular, then that’s what’s happening.

I would quite in fact love to see Lions Arc gettign destroyed.. and by destroyed i absolutely mean “erased from Tyrias ground” so that we players will have to REBUILD together Lions Arch completely new so that we will see someday a completely new and different looking improved Lions Arch.

I have never seen before GW2 any Main Town, that is more flawed and beloved too much by the Developers, than Lions Arch in this Game, that all other Towns in the Game look totally dead besides of LA.

Destroying and rebuilding Lions Arch up from a scratch would solve all of the flaws that the town has:

• The silly Entrance to the Fractals of the Mist-Dungeon could be moved to an other place (I could think of Scarlet attacking the town for the purpose of stealing that asura gate for whatever a reason she might have for it)

• The rebuild phase could be used to put some use into the many so far unused Asura Gates, letting them finaly become finished and get activated

• The NPC for the Minigames gets removed (simply got killed by the Invasion!)
  That way will get all of the towns finally their reasons back to visit them – the unique Minigames

• Using this chance to finally rework some parts of the Personal Story to use that chance to make Personal Story repeatable/replayable together with a one time chance to change specific made decisions. This would be absolutely needed due to the fact, that Personal Story is involved with Lions Arch as a Story Location.
  It would give also the chance to implement a new Story Side Line by giving players that replay their PS the chance to decide, if they just replay the Story with a LA, that stays how we all know it now, letting that part in the played PS stay unchanged.
  Or if the player uses the chance to use the new looking Lions Arch as part of the replayed PS using it to follow the new implemented Side Story line to play a few new implmented Side Missions maybe until you get back onto the original track gettign that way a slightly different personal story, than other players which stayed at the original version of the old PS version that hasn’t had that Side Story in between.

• Reworking all of the Vendor NPCs improving their sortiments, especially all the tons of useless Karma NPCs that sell all the same boring stuff and the useless NPCs that seel tons of obsolete food items, that realyl nobody does use, because they are too weak and useless and not worth wasting the money just only

• Implement maybe new interestign things and improveing existing features…
  New Minigames, like the Minipet Arena, Bar Brawls, and improving the Moa Race into a real moa race and not just a boring betting of Moas who wins ….

Destroying that town would open up some great potential in improvign the game and its just a fact, that you sometimes just need to destroy something to create something new out of the ashes, like a rising phoenix of “inspiration”, that will be used to make this game better.

I still think she’s ultimately after primordius, either as an alley or a foe. Since those reactors kittened off the wurms, I’m assuming that it will be her goal to get the deep underground dragon to come out and play. Lions Arch just might be the battleground of choice.

thaooo.5320:

Lions Arch has personal story quests inside it:
- The starting location (green marker)
- Some personal stories take place inside Lions Arch, they’d have to remake the personal stories.

Hence Lions Arch will not be destroyed in any large scale or meaningful way.

Lion’s Arch CAN be destroyed. It will still be accessible, just with a bunch of charred buildings and fires strewn about.

The story instances can use the old assets.

Mikuchan.7261:

ANet has called that “anything is fair game” and “anything can be destroyed”.
They have some 350 employees and guestimatingly about 80 working on living story. There is a -huge- room for rewriting the entire personal story if needed.

Now I’m not sure they would do it…
But if they really want to show us something spectacular, then that’s what’s happening.

Based on what’s changed so far in LA, I doubt it. The fountain that came back and the lighthouse being destroyed were the extent of destruction thus far. For the latter, you’d think with a bunch of wild Karka more would have gotten destroyed. I can’t fault ArenaNet too hard since it costs money and all, but it’s been fairly tame and inconsequential. I’d love to see big changes mind you, but I’m not going to get my hopes up.

Sharvis.9085:

Mikuchan.7261:

ANet has called that “anything is fair game” and “anything can be destroyed”.
They have some 350 employees and guestimatingly about 80 working on living story. There is a -huge- room for rewriting the entire personal story if needed.

Now I’m not sure they would do it…
But if they really want to show us something spectacular, then that’s what’s happening.

Based on what’s changed so far in LA, I doubt it. The fountain that came back and the lighthouse being destroyed were the extent of destruction thus far. For the latter, you’d think with a bunch of wild Karka more would have gotten destroyed. I can’t fault ArenaNet too hard since it costs money and all, but it’s been fairly tame and inconsequential. I’d love to see big changes mind you, but I’m not going to get my hopes up.

Agreed. I don’t expect much, especially in the main world. Might be trashed in an instance, but that’s all I expect.

“Anything is fair game” and “anything can be destroyed” is just hype and marketing speak, just like “an expansion’s worth of content”. Don’t buy the hype, kids. You’re just going to be disappointed.

But honestly, do you guys feel that leveling LA would be a “world-changing” event they keep promising? If GW2 had Searing of Ascalon – type of event, that I would accept, but just a makeover for one town doesn’t cut it after all this hype.

Hopefully Evon and the BLC dies in the attack.

The devastation will be so powerful it will alter everyone’s DNA such that they ‘all’ end up with ugly runs.

And NASCAR and Gordon Gekko. Heartland. Values.

Malediktus.9250:

Hopefully Evon and the BLC dies in the attack.

And then the Consortium replaces the BLC and inflates the prices.

I thought that was pretty obvious. They want to blow your minds by doing something so devastating. I don’t think anybody will really care if LA disappears.

There’s something under LA or she wants something in LA. This thing she needs is to awake whatever monster she saw within the Omadd’s stuff thing.

Traveller.7496:

But honestly, do you guys feel that leveling LA would be a “world-changing” event they keep promising? If GW2 had Searing of Ascalon – type of event, that I would accept, but just a makeover for one town doesn’t cut it after all this hype.

In terms of a simple makeover, no. But there are ways it could be done to give more oomph to the events, such as the destruction causing the Tengu wall to collapse allowing access into the Dominion of Winds. Or we could get a new mini-game or world interaction from the results of the destruction. There are so many ways that ArenaNet could fit in interesting changes. It’s why I try not to get my hopes up for such changes because what usually results is far more mundane.

Fort Mariner gets annihilated.

Jaken.6801:

If the giant drill thingy is coming down on LA i am not against it.. as long as they keep the ruins mostly unaffected.

I do not care much about the new stuff, since it is some patchwork design and destruction could lead to a much more interesting design that way, but if they destroy the fond memories of the old LA then i will be seriously sad

I’m hoping the shift of earth from the drill will bring back old LA and it can be rebuilt. Just like it was in all it’s epic glory.

I expect a dragon to literally burst forth from LA and level the whole thing while swarms of its minions descend on us and kill everything in sight. Anything short of that will be a disappointment at this point.

2 patches to go and this one told us nothing and advanced the scarlet story line in no meaningful way. Maybe they’ll go full on crazy and we’ll find out that WE are actually scarlet… that would be pretty hilarious actually…

Bring it on! Never liked LA anyways. It always had this ship graveyard feel … 8-)

Sharvis.9085:

Traveller.7496:

But honestly, do you guys feel that leveling LA would be a “world-changing” event they keep promising? If GW2 had Searing of Ascalon – type of event, that I would accept, but just a makeover for one town doesn’t cut it after all this hype.

In terms of a simple makeover, no. But there are ways it could be done to give more oomph to the events, such as the destruction causing the Tengu wall to collapse allowing access into the Dominion of Winds.

This. Please let it be this.

THE END IS NIGH!

She’s going to reroute all the Magic into LA to summon the Elder Dragons to beat each other up, then Nuke them with Mari and break magic! We will then have to restore magic with the bloodstones, because the imbalance in the world will have it start to fall into the Mist and be destroyed. Restoring the bloodstone and returning magic however will also rise the dragons again.

Chrispy.5641:

So…There’s going to be a new Lion’s Arch on top of the ruins of 3 previous Lion’s Arch’s?

Did you know we get the term Armageddon from Har Megiddo, which is a “tell”, or a hill created by layers and layers of rebuilt town one on top of another.

I just thought it was interesting, with your comment, and this thread discussing the final battle with Scarlet in LA.

Volstag.6371:

THE END IS NIGH!

She’s going to reroute all the Magic into LA to summon the Elder Dragons to beat each other up, then Nuke them with Mari and break magic! We will then have to restore magic with the bloodstones, because the imbalance in the world will have it start to fall into the Mist and be destroyed. Restoring the bloodstone and returning magic however will also rise the dragons again.

And then GW3 will be announced :P

Once again the fountain/statue will be destroyed. If I were them, I’d just put a picture of the statue/fountain on a post or billboard and write, “We’re not rebuilding this again. Here’s a picture.”

insaneshadow.1654:

Once again the fountain/statue will be destroyed. If I were them, I’d just put a picture of the statue/fountain on a post or billboard and write, “We’re not rebuilding this again. Here’s a picture.”

LOOOL….the permanent world changing results….a billboard.

No Walking.6349:

LA is going to get destroyed. Or at least severely altered, Stormwind/Orgrimmar style. Who’s with me?

Hopefully this will lead to mystic forges in all the racial cities, with a shared city chat channel between all 5 cities

I think that we will be able to rebuild our Hall of Monuments sooner or later and then display GW2 stuff in it

I don’t think LA is going to be destroyed (or rather not completely destroyed) since a lot of the personal story takes place in LA.

Unless they will have new personal story lines. Hmmm, I guess it could be done especially since they have so many people working on LS and “bigger projects”. If we look at the personal story, the beginning personal story lines could remain unchanged. They just need to change the storylines after we join the orders and start investigating ways of defeating an elder dragon, only this time instead of Zhaitan, we have another ED (cough “Mordremoth”)

I’m predicting another “donate gold and items to help rebuild Lion’s Arch!” money-laundering scheme to help balance inflation.

LA can’t be destroyed! Because RNG GOD is there.

But drilling LA wouldn’t make sense. The hole will just get flooded with water.

FateOmega.9601:

But drilling LA wouldn’t make sense. The hole will just get flooded with water.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/offshore-drilling3.htm

LA will be destroyed all the npcs is changed with watchknights that look after you.
All players will be forced to hard labor digging in the ground for ley lines and The lion statue will be changed with a statue of scarlet and there will be scarlet propaganda speeches all day.

aaaaand yes im trolling

Renny.6571:

FateOmega.9601:

But drilling LA wouldn’t make sense. The hole will just get flooded with water.

http://science.howstuffworks.com/environmental/energy/offshore-drilling3.htm

Hmm so what it means is that scarlet is not going to go down but to make a well instead. She will pump her poison into whatever is below and try to kill it. If it manage to get out she will then fight it with her marionette.

i don’t care if they blow up LA, as long as the mobs drop precusors…

well what scarlet saw in her dream was Zommoros so she gonna kill RNG for good

support scarlet people

They already destroyed the original lighthouse in LA like it was nothing (I’m still very upset about that, ANET. You are horrible people for doing that. It’s not even that you destroyed it, it’s how you destroyed it), so they will probably destroy what little is left of GW1’s LA like it means nothing.

GW2 is starting to look more and more like GW1’s different-hair-colored-step-child rather than an actual successor. It’s like ANET wants less and less to do with GW1 anymore, even though GW1 is the reason ANET still existed long before GW2 was even thought up, and that is a shame.

I must be the only one that isn’t interested in the destruction of any map. Not only is it sad to see a beautiful map like Kessex Hills turn ugly, lorewise my characters would be even more incompetent.
Lion’s Arch being destroyed while even realising what Scarlet’s plans were means we failed big time, just like all the other times we failed and got used by her. So basically all this time chasing her and trying to figure out what was going on was for nothing and actually aided her in achieving her goals.

From the story i am not comply sold that Scarlet is truly evil more on the lines of willing to do any thing to achieves a goal a kind of end justify the means type of person. I think she going to destroy LA at least the harbor and kill a lot of ppl to kill or at least attk a dragon that maybe under LA or even use the magic to lure out a dragon because she see it as a threat to her self (its trying to take over her mind from the dream and she must have independents at all cost) and the world she wants to take over. Think of it as if she wants to take over every thing but if every thing going to doom then why even try to take things over in the first places.
I think the players in the next LS are going to do something to get in the way it will kill scarlet it will awaken a dragon and give it a lot of power and it will be all the players fault. The next LS arce will be off that dragon and every thing it dose will be blame on the player in the story and the new group of npc from the scarlet LS to the point of needed to have hide outs (Guild Halls). The GH may be too much but its just a though.

That OR.

She needs the players power to fight the dragon and or get the dragon to attk.
Its realty all base off how you see the world.

No way LA gets destroyed. It would make one of the biggest personal story instances (Claw Island) pointless

Jaken.6801:

If the giant drill thingy is coming down on LA i am not against it.. as long as they keep the ruins mostly unaffected.

I do not care much about the new stuff, since it is some patchwork design and destruction could lead to a much more interesting design that way, but if they destroy the fond memories of the old LA then i will be seriously sad

Wasn’t the giant floaty drill-lookin thing the aethercannon which the marionette was powering up? And we defeated that… So she’ll move on to another plan, something hidden in the mists…

What could she be after in the mists? And what twisted monstrosity did she see in her visions? What could drive someone to become a villain?

…dear god. It all makes sense now.

FateOmega.9601:

But drilling LA wouldn’t make sense. The hole will just get flooded with water.

What if that’s exactly what she wants? Flooding the Depths sounds like a great way to force Primordus and the Destroyers to the surface.