Guild Wars 2

Jagerbomb.9057:

This is by far the best content you have released. I love everything, the cutscene, the rewards, the events! Oh and the armor is amazing! You really have out done yourself with this patch, IMO It’s the best ever and I’m pretty sure 99% of people agree with me. ^.^

Keep up the work!

( Grumbles Kasmeer better not die…)

HERE HERE!

why is that patch good? we got nothing more than zerg event awful loot ONE, i repeat, ONE cinematic and the destruction of a main city which is probably the only fun thing.

I’m very impressed as well. The cinematic was fantastic, and the look of the destroyed Lion’s Arch is great. Big fan of the burning bridges in particular, the effects really work nicely. Love the chaotic feel of it. For now it’s a lot of fun, although I’m sure I won’t be doing it constantly by the time the next update approaches. As far as rewards go, the new backpiece is cool for those that enjoy that kind of style, but I’m not really into that kind of aesthetic. Otherwise, it doesn’t seem like there’s really much to work for outside of getting all the achievements and possibly the potions from the lost heirloom collection, although 250 heirlooms seems a bit steep for something so simple.

Overall, I think it’s a great release. I also wanted to mention how great the refugee camp and revamped Vigil Keep came out. Feels like a totally different area, and I love that the Keep is more opened up now. Makes it way more impressive. Looking forward to going back and spending some time soaking in the ambient dialogue and talking with the NPCs.

Very polished, very fun. Thank you.

totally agree with OP, this has been really fun, i had a fun time following heal-o-tron xD and then watching Evon being threatened by that pesky little asura from the lionguard

I see anet employee’s have posted to tell us how good their boring re rinse zerg fest is.

awful update as usual.

SirusDibley.3716:

I see anet employee’s have posted to tell us how good their boring re rinse zerg fest is.

awful update as usual.

If things are so bad why do you keep playing, I am just curious?

Moteris.5913:

Well because some of us are choosing to enjoy the game instead of crying about the lack of things. OR what the devs did wrong…blah blah blah…

+1

Moteris.5913:

SirusDibley.3716:

I see anet employee’s have posted to tell us how good their boring re rinse zerg fest is.

awful update as usual.

If things are so bad why do you keep playing, I am just curious?

why is this posted everytime anet fail with a LS story ?

SirusDibley.3716:

I see anet employee’s have posted to tell us how good their boring re rinse zerg fest is.

awful update as usual.

god! this is really frustraring man, dont you get tired of being so negative? allow yourself to have some fun! you know, in this world NOTHING is perfect, there is always something bad in EVERYTHING, so you just overlook the little details and enjoy the good part.

I’ll say it again, very fun patch and I’m excited to see what else will happen in the upcoming weeks

korelg.7862:

SirusDibley.3716:

I see anet employee’s have posted to tell us how good their boring re rinse zerg fest is.

awful update as usual.

god! this is really frustraring man, dont you get tired of being so negative? allow yourself to have some fun! you know, in this world NOTHING is perfect, there is always something bad in EVERYTHING, so you just overlook the little details and enjoy the good part.

I’ll say it again, very fun patch and I’m excited to see what else will happen in the upcoming weeks

There is nothing fun about a zerg.

SirusDibley.3716:

I see anet employee’s have posted to tell us how good their boring re rinse zerg fest is.

awful update as usual.

I love how you guys don’t enjoy the game you are playing. Do you know why people usually play games? to enjoy them

Thorn.7963:

There is nothing fun about a zerg.

Then stop running in one. The event requires groups to be active across the map. If champs are spawning because of a zerg, then something is being neglected elsewhere. ANet structured this one well.

Immensus.9732:

why is that patch good? we got nothing more than zerg event awful loot ONE, i repeat, ONE cinematic and the destruction of a main city which is probably the only fun thing.

Yep, one of my least favorite updates ever released by arenanet.

korelg.7862:

god! this is really frustraring man, dont you get tired of being so negative? allow yourself to have some fun! you know, in this world NOTHING is perfect, there is always something bad in EVERYTHING, so you just overlook the little details and enjoy the good part.

Do you get tired of being so frustrated? Your point can be applied to you as well. Just overlook their complaints and continue to enjoy the game. Their complaints aren’t towards you but towards ArenaNet, so why stress yourself over them voicing their dislike of the content? If the majority of the customers do indeed like this content then Anet will not modify the content much, perhaps sprinkling a few additional things for the minority but nothing that will jeopardize your amusement.

Elrey.5472:

I love how you guys don’t enjoy the game you are playing. Do you know why people usually play games? to enjoy them

You would be correct a few years back, but I have noticed a startling shift in the mentality of gamers. A growing number treat video games as chores or jobs, forcing themselves to go through content they despise for trivial things such as achievement points. It is this mentality that has caused me to actively avoid joining Guilds, another reason is the person usually just spams me a guild invite expecting I will eventually succumb to their persistence (fortunately didn’t encounter anyone that persistent when I was playing Guild Wars 2), and participating in group content.

my only kvetch is that I have to play with my sound off, cause all the aetherblade lazers in one place is migraine-inducing

And I really think it should have taken several hours to get the stuff at Vigil Keep put up, not just had it poof into existance- but I can imagine the hysteria from people over not having access to all the services right away.

Nikked.7365:

Thorn.7963:

There is nothing fun about a zerg.

Then stop running in one. The event requires groups to be active across the map. If champs are spawning because of a zerg, then something is being neglected elsewhere. ANet structured this one well.

Did you even play the event? You basically split up into 3 mini zergs (or 1 massive one that ignores the other 2 if you’re unlucky) and you mindlessly spam abilities on HP whales and pray you have enough people with you to finish the event. Then you go around other zergs and mash AoEs, all the while praying you are lucky enough to be in an overflow server that knows to split off into groups.

Nice.
Complainers go home.

bllius.9027:

Nice.
Complainers go home.

They probably are home since one doesn’t physically leave one’s computer seat to play the game.

I really like this addition to the living story. I like the idea that we aren’t fighting for Lion’s Arch, we are just trying to cut losses. It gives a sense that Scarlet is much stronger than we thought she would be. She literally wrecked all of us.

As for the actual event, I like how the main event is rescuing citizens around the city, and there are various subevents i COULD attend if I wanted to. It rewards the MMO style of playing. You could travel in small groups, you could zerg, you can run solo and find citizens. You aren’t forced to do anything.

I know one group I played with started to split in to many smaller groups and spread throughout the city to look for citizens, then regrouped when an event occurred. ANet did this very well. Props to them. And the ruined LA looks amazing.

Darkbattlemage.9612:

They probably are home since one doesn’t physically leave one’s computer seat to play the game.

r u havin a giggle m8?

Well, I didn’t encounter any bugs. That’s a HUGE improvement over past LS updates.

The good:
The dialogues are nice, new areas are nice, cutscene is ok.

The bad:
Main content is a boring zerg fest, new armor released to gem store and blue looks weird.

Overall I’d say it’s one of the better LS updates. But that’s not saying much.

After the patch, I and a friend got dropped off near the Lion in LA in the midst of this vast destruction of well-known places and started to fight our way towards the middle of the city. Such an epic, apocalyptic feel. Such a great patch. The cutscene was breathtaking. GJ (Use more of that synth that occurs in the last two seconds of the scene)

this has been great. the whole map is littered with stuff to do.

If you want a zerg ball. you got it.
Small group hero stuff. you got it.
Solo roaming. to save the kids? got that too.
Loot variants are outstanding. emphy shards. AND dragonite in one place? how is this a bad thing

VERY WELL DONE!

now if you will excuse me I have things to kill

The cutscene was fun and Lion’s Arch looks awesome all smashed up, but I’m really not a fan of the event design. It just comes across as a glorified champion farm and there’s nothing particularly enriching about that. Feels like a step back after the Marionette events. I imagine it’s great for loot kittens, but I personally just find it banal.

Hopefully the final LS update provides something a bit more cerebral.

1. New armor set skins are amazing. Anet outdid themselves here, for sure.
2. LS is a mindless zergfest…again…

The cinematic was short but very well done, even if it was only one. The aesthetics were great; Anet did a fantastic job with the destruction of Lion’s Arch. It really feels like all hell has broken loose and that we’re truly in the middle of some kind of blitzkrieg.

Little details like being able to rescue and revive citizens and seeing some of the more notable NPCs in evacuation camps while others were…“not present” – adds a nice touch and reminds us that things really aren’t going to be like they used to.

However the gameplay is another tactless zergfest and collect-athon, which is disappointing. It would’ve been cool if Lion’s arch was split into sections, encouraging people to work in larger groups. I was hoping we’d get to do something to that giant drill that Scarlet stationed in the bay too. We didn’t get a lot of story from this either which is strange, considering that this is supposed to be the big turning point in the LS. I’m hoping we get to experience both in the next patch.

Tower of Nightmares was fun. The Marionette was fun. Both of them required teamwork and different game play methods instead of devaluing to a mindless zerg throughout their course – this patch doesn’t. I really hope the next and final update to this LS is something akin to those two patches.

Overall, great presentation but yeah, laggy zergfests are getting old.

Edit: Another thing, I was also really disappointed that the Tengu were just… completely forgotten and not implemented into this event. It would’ve been a great way to introduce them into the LS, seeing as they’re… right next to the kitten city, but whatever. Just having them fight side by side around the entrance to their gate would’ve been cool, but y’know… whatever, it can pass.

Darkbattlemage.9612:

korelg.7862:

god! this is really frustraring man, dont you get tired of being so negative? allow yourself to have some fun! you know, in this world NOTHING is perfect, there is always something bad in EVERYTHING, so you just overlook the little details and enjoy the good part.

Do you get tired of being so frustrated? Your point can be applied to you as well. Just overlook their complaints and continue to enjoy the game. Their complaints aren’t towards you but towards ArenaNet, so why stress yourself over them voicing their dislike of the content? If the majority of the customers do indeed like this content then Anet will not modify the content much, perhaps sprinkling a few additional things for the minority but nothing that will jeopardize your amusement.

Elrey.5472:

I love how you guys don’t enjoy the game you are playing. Do you know why people usually play games? to enjoy them

You would be correct a few years back, but I have noticed a startling shift in the mentality of gamers. A growing number treat video games as chores or jobs, forcing themselves to go through content they despise for trivial things such as achievement points. It is this mentality that has caused me to actively avoid joining Guilds, another reason is the person usually just spams me a guild invite expecting I will eventually succumb to their persistence (fortunately didn’t encounter anyone that persistent when I was playing Guild Wars 2), and participating in group content.

Why come into a positive thread and start saying negative things? Yes we can ignore the negative people but its just bad manners and disrespectful to the OP. He was trying to give his positive feed back. I understand people are not going to like aspects of the game and that’s fine, however make a different thread to give your reasons.

+1 to you OP.

Jagerbomb.9057:

This is by far the best content you have released. I love everything, the cutscene, the rewards, the events! Oh and the armor is amazing! You really have out done yourself with this patch, IMO It’s the best ever and I’m pretty sure 99% of people agree with me. ^.^

Keep up the work!

( Grumbles Kasmeer better not die…)

Wow, I disagree with almost everything you said. I do like the aesthetic of the burning city though. Glad the patch appeals to you…

Ropechef.6192:

this has been great. the whole map is littered with stuff to do.

If you want a zerg ball. you got it.
Small group hero stuff. you got it.
Solo roaming. to save the kids? got that too.
Loot variants are outstanding. emphy shards. AND dragonite in one place? how is this a bad thing

VERY WELL DONE!

now if you will excuse me I have things to kill

Gotta agree with this, there’s tons to do and you are actively rewarded for not always being in the zerg. Splitting from the zerg into small teams makes for great fun rescuing civilians (which seriously pays off if enough people do it).

Moteris.5913:

SirusDibley.3716:

I see anet employee’s have posted to tell us how good their boring re rinse zerg fest is.

awful update as usual.

If things are so bad why do you keep playing, I am just curious?

ExactlY the attitude that contributes to the declining active population on most servers. “If you don’t like it stop playing” and most are doing exactly that. I know a few GW1 vets that can’t even be bribed into playing GW2 anymore and they own the game.

I wonder what you complain about zergs. Seriously, if you are in the war, would you prefer to walk alone or in a small group, or in a massive army with tanks, bombs and a great amount of success?

I was so far in all 3 positions at the event and the zerg is still the best and funniest solution. There are to many Vets and Champs around which are slow to get with just a small group.

Also consider the definition of “MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER Online Game” for a moment, thanks. I don’t want to enjoy those events alone or in small groups, if you want to, then please play Final Fantasy (not the mmo)

People these days…

Jagerbomb.9057:

This is by far the best content you have released. I love everything, the cutscene, the rewards, the events! Oh and the armor is amazing! You really have out done yourself with this patch, IMO It’s the best ever and I’m pretty sure 99% of people agree with me. ^.^

Keep up the work!

Yeah great work making the game unplayable for me!

Let me know when Lion’s Arch is rebuilt… I might come back.

Adhal.3187:

If things are so bad why do you keep playing, I am just curious?

Because other than the overthetopridiculous villan, I actually like the game. But for me, the fact that she succeeds attacking Lion’s Arch means I’ll be playing a lot less.

Just find it annoying that a power rangers bad guy can do what actual well written foes could not. Then again, it’s typical of the villan type…we all pretend they’re actually a threat while we wait for some better show to come up.

I was expecting some kind of giant Marionette-like boss but much, much harder in L.A. Using more tactics and requiring complex puzzles to defeat even one of them (along with the whole zerg invasion). Wish the massive drill had an interior, and wish I could get in an airship and blow up other airships with my player crew…

Dat air combat.

korelg.7862:

totally agree with OP, this has been really fun, i had a fun time following heal-o-tron xD and then watching Evon being threatened by that pesky little asura from the lionguard

That was really bizarre. Evon is in Vigil keep. No way does the Lionguard have jurisdiction there. Have I misunderstood something about the authority of the Lionguard here? First Kiel is telling Dessa what to do in the freaking Mists and now she’s telling Evon what to do in Vigil Keep. Where does her authority come from?

Jagerbomb.9057:

This is by far the best content you have released. I love everything, the cutscene, the rewards, the events! Oh and the armor is amazing! You really have out done yourself with this patch, IMO It’s the best ever and I’m pretty sure 99% of people agree with me. ^.^

Keep up the work!

( Grumbles Kasmeer better not die…)

I could not agree less with you about anything.

Shiren.9532:

korelg.7862:

totally agree with OP, this has been really fun, i had a fun time following heal-o-tron xD and then watching Evon being threatened by that pesky little asura from the lionguard

That was really bizarre. Evon is in Vigil keep. No way does the Lionguard have jurisdiction there. Have I misunderstood something about the authority of the Lionguard here? First Kiel is telling Dessa what to do in the freaking Mists and now she’s telling Evon what to do in Vigil Keep. Where does her authority come from?

Since he’s a citizen of Lion’s arch they probably do. He could run away but if they catch him doing so, they’ll gun him down. It’s a warzone right now and then, other rules apply.

But I feel sorry for the guy. First time I ever sympathized with Gnashblade. On the other hand, given the current situation he should co-operate in arming the forces to defend/take back LA, it’s just the right thing to do. Times like this shouldn’t be times to look at money, best he can do is document everything and see if he can get his money after the whole ordeal is over.

Immensus.9732:

why is that patch good? we got nothing more than zerg event awful loot ONE, i repeat, ONE cinematic and the destruction of a main city which is probably the only fun thing.

Just wondering… Where do you get more content in this kind of updates?

Darkoray.4570:

Darkbattlemage.9612:

korelg.7862:

god! this is really frustraring man, dont you get tired of being so negative? allow yourself to have some fun! you know, in this world NOTHING is perfect, there is always something bad in EVERYTHING, so you just overlook the little details and enjoy the good part.

Do you get tired of being so frustrated? Your point can be applied to you as well. Just overlook their complaints and continue to enjoy the game. Their complaints aren’t towards you but towards ArenaNet, so why stress yourself over them voicing their dislike of the content? If the majority of the customers do indeed like this content then Anet will not modify the content much, perhaps sprinkling a few additional things for the minority but nothing that will jeopardize your amusement.

Elrey.5472:

I love how you guys don’t enjoy the game you are playing. Do you know why people usually play games? to enjoy them

You would be correct a few years back, but I have noticed a startling shift in the mentality of gamers. A growing number treat video games as chores or jobs, forcing themselves to go through content they despise for trivial things such as achievement points. It is this mentality that has caused me to actively avoid joining Guilds, another reason is the person usually just spams me a guild invite expecting I will eventually succumb to their persistence (fortunately didn’t encounter anyone that persistent when I was playing Guild Wars 2), and participating in group content.

Why come into a positive thread and start saying negative things? Yes we can ignore the negative people but its just bad manners and disrespectful to the OP. He was trying to give his positive feed back. I understand people are not going to like aspects of the game and that’s fine, however make a different thread to give your reasons.

+1 to you OP.

I am not going to offer my evalution of this patch becouse I lack any first hand experience. But to answer your question about “why come into a positive thread”. I believe that one specific statement made by the OP (let me quote: “I’m pretty sure 99% of people agree with me.”) tingles my senses in a bit disturbing way. When making statements like that it is very easy to draw the opposition out of the woods.

OmaiGodman.2098:

Shiren.9532:

korelg.7862:

totally agree with OP, this has been really fun, i had a fun time following heal-o-tron xD and then watching Evon being threatened by that pesky little asura from the lionguard

That was really bizarre. Evon is in Vigil keep. No way does the Lionguard have jurisdiction there. Have I misunderstood something about the authority of the Lionguard here? First Kiel is telling Dessa what to do in the freaking Mists and now she’s telling Evon what to do in Vigil Keep. Where does her authority come from?

Since he’s a citizen of Lion’s arch they probably do. He could run away but if they catch him doing so, they’ll gun him down. It’s a warzone right now and then, other rules apply.

But I feel sorry for the guy. First time I ever sympathized with Gnashblade. On the other hand, given the current situation he should co-operate in arming the forces to defend/take back LA, it’s just the right thing to do. Times like this shouldn’t be times to look at money, best he can do is document everything and see if he can get his money after the whole ordeal is over.

No-one is a citizen of Lion’s Arch right now, it was destroyed. He should be free to do whatever he wants outside of Lion’s Arch (can all the other former Lion’s Arch refugees be conscripted under threat of execution?). Even if he were, he’s not in Lion’s Arch any more, how can they enforce their laws on him? Isn’t it out of character for Kiel to use legal technicalities to control people? She seemed to have a problem with the consortium doing that exact thing yet she herself isn’t above doing it to a Lion’s Arch refugee.

He’s still going to profit from all of this and I suspect he would have helped regardless of what Kiel did (he says on more than one occasion, what’s good for Lion’s Arch is good for him).

Good job encouraging them to keep releasing useless contents like this one. It’s thanks to ppl like you that GW2 became the worst MMO around. I hope you’re satisfied.

Fhaeris.9237:

Good job encouraging them to keep releasing useless contents like this one. It’s thanks to ppl like you that GW2 became the worst MMO around. I hope you’re satisfied.

Useless contents? Worst MMO? In what kind of world do you live?
You must be really alone, I’m very sorry for you, really.

I’m satisfied, so are my friends, guild and other people around. The LS might not be perfect and not everyone likes some of thoses updates, this is just normal and you have to bear with it. This MMO is not made for you but everyone.

It’s thanks to ppl like you that ruins MMOs like GW2. I hope you’re satisfied.

Shiren.9532:

OmaiGodman.2098:

Shiren.9532:

korelg.7862:

totally agree with OP, this has been really fun, i had a fun time following heal-o-tron xD and then watching Evon being threatened by that pesky little asura from the lionguard

That was really bizarre. Evon is in Vigil keep. No way does the Lionguard have jurisdiction there. Have I misunderstood something about the authority of the Lionguard here? First Kiel is telling Dessa what to do in the freaking Mists and now she’s telling Evon what to do in Vigil Keep. Where does her authority come from?

Since he’s a citizen of Lion’s arch they probably do. He could run away but if they catch him doing so, they’ll gun him down. It’s a warzone right now and then, other rules apply.

But I feel sorry for the guy. First time I ever sympathized with Gnashblade. On the other hand, given the current situation he should co-operate in arming the forces to defend/take back LA, it’s just the right thing to do. Times like this shouldn’t be times to look at money, best he can do is document everything and see if he can get his money after the whole ordeal is over.

No-one is a citizen of Lion’s Arch right now, it was destroyed. He should be free to do whatever he wants outside of Lion’s Arch (can all the other former Lion’s Arch refugees be conscripted under threat of execution?). Even if he were, he’s not in Lion’s Arch any more, how can they enforce their laws on him? Isn’t it out of character for Kiel to use legal technicalities to control people? She seemed to have a problem with the consortium doing that exact thing yet she herself isn’t above doing it to a Lion’s Arch refugee.

He’s still going to profit from all of this and I suspect he would have helped regardless of what Kiel did (he says on more than one occasion, what’s good for Lion’s Arch is good for him).

I’m not saying what the Lionguard are doing is right (I liked Gnashblade’s comment on them being useless, because to me that’s what they are) but I’m not a lawyer and even if I were, I’m not schooled in Tyria’s laws so I don’t know what kind of rule they’re using, but it seems that the Lionguard are in charge of the refugee camp where Gnashblade is currently based, he could probably run but if they catch him he’ll be shot for being a deserter, if he got away he’d never be able to set foot in Lion’s Arch again even if it got rebuilt, and I guess he just doesn’t want to risk that.

That said, the snotty little Asura kind of kittened me off.

Actually, a solo player can contribute more to the success of the map than anyone in a zerg. There are LOTS of city dwellers that need to be “motivated” to run for the gates. One person covering the larger of these clusters (like where the Ogre recue spawns) can rescue 30-40 people all by themselves. That’s way more than the zerglings accomplish when you divide up their rescue credit.

Darkoray.4570:

Why come into a positive thread and start saying negative things? Yes we can ignore the negative people but its just bad manners and disrespectful to the OP. He was trying to give his positive feed back. I understand people are not going to like aspects of the game and that’s fine, however make a different thread to give your reasons.

+1 to you OP.

Because I can just like you can come into a thread filled with criticism and give your opinion, or even sprout gibberish just so long as it doesn’t technically break the code of conduct. Also the manner you presented your comment is actually more disrespectful to the original poster than simply ignoring the comments of those who dislike the content, I do not believe they intended to encourage this behavior with their original post but I could be wrong in that regard. Also you would of said the same thing on their threads despite the fact it was made to present criticism to Anet.

Adhal.3187:

I know a few GW1 vets that can’t even be bribed into playing GW2 anymore and they own the game.

What was the bribe?

Zanktus.9821:

I wonder what you complain about zergs. Seriously, if you are in the war, would you prefer to walk alone or in a small group, or in a massive army with tanks, bombs and a great amount of success?

Yet a Zerg isn’t comprised of bombs, tanks, and great amount of success. it comprised entirely out of infantry which can be obliterated by Scarlet’s airships if she truly wanted to.

Zanktus.9821:

Also consider the definition of “MASSIVE MULTIPLAYER Online Game” for a moment, thanks. I don’t want to enjoy those events alone or in small groups, if you want to, then please play Final Fantasy (not the mmo)

Consider the full label “Massive Multiplayer Role Playing Game” and we may be getting closer to a understanding between both groups…but I doubt it. This is why some people have problems with the Zerg content, as it doesn’t fit an RPG in any description.

I could do with less zerging, but the art, writing and overall release are par for the course for ArenaNet — which is to say, awesome.

It also seems surprisingly light on bugs, which is pretty amazing given the scope of the release.

While I’m not thrilled about certain questionable maneuvers involving gems, the talented people who worked so hard to produce this release deserve serious credit for bringing us one of the most epic chapters of our story so far.

Kudos.

Nike.2631:

Actually, a solo player can contribute more to the success of the map than anyone in a zerg. There are LOTS of city dwellers that need to be “motivated” to run for the gates. One person covering the larger of these clusters (like where the Ogre recue spawns) can rescue 30-40 people all by themselves. That’s way more than the zerglings accomplish when you divide up their rescue credit.

Well that does make it more interesting to be honest. I think guerilla type warfare is a nice change from the zerging.