Guild Wars 2

Indeed, it looks very interesting.
And adding on the information from massively it does indeed seem that LA WILL get destroyed.

OMG. So pumped. Yes we all seen it coming, but c’mon. You have to be a little excited, right?

I only wonder if Snake Plissken will show up to help us out.

I can see it now.. LA is in flames. Flame Legion and Dredge are terrorizing citizens. Toxic Alliance is BBQ’ing Quaggan. Marjory cradles Kasmeer’s dead corpse near the Mystic Forge and Snake walks up.

Marjory crying over Kasmeer she tells her that she will change the drapes to Yellow just for her and Snake simply says, “Sad Story. You got a smoke?”

lordkrall.7241:

Indeed, it looks very interesting.
And adding on the information from massively it does indeed seem that LA WILL get destroyed.

link please? Curiosity has struck me.

Delvoire.8930:

lordkrall.7241:

Indeed, it looks very interesting.
And adding on the information from massively it does indeed seem that LA WILL get destroyed.

link please? Curiosity has struck me.

Google Google Google Google Google Google Google Google Google…

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/11/prepare-to-escape-from-lions-arch-in-guild-wars-2s-next-conten/

ghost.3208:

Delvoire.8930:

lordkrall.7241:

Indeed, it looks very interesting.
And adding on the information from massively it does indeed seem that LA WILL get destroyed.

link please? Curiosity has struck me.

Google google google google google google google google google…

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/11/prepare-to-escape-from-lions-arch-in-guild-wars-2s-next-conten/

Why Google when someone can post the link for me

Ah, yes of course ^^

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/11/prepare-to-escape-from-lions-arch-in-guild-wars-2s-next-conten/

I hope they have some balls and make LA a ruin after at the end of season 1. As Mordemoth is very likely to come at the end of this season (or might be the season 2 topic) it would be perfect to destroy LA for good.

Not just a few destroyed buildings that are slowly rebuild. I really mean burned to the ground.

In a Living Story the world needs to change permanently. I hope Anet really does this instead of reverting it to its former state after the story concludes with a few hints of what happened.

lordkrall.7241:

Ah, yes of course ^^

http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/11/prepare-to-escape-from-lions-arch-in-guild-wars-2s-next-conten/

Thanks Krall.

That was a good read.

It does seem like LA is not going to be what it used to be. They are already planning on moving the forge, Fractals, and other things to the Vigil Keep and hinted that map completion will still be needed for LA, but it will be dangerous and different.

I love it!

I hope she will destroy this city (yes, I don’t like LA), and new will be founded on the Southsun island <3

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

I hope its not like Karka Attack in The Lost Shores.

WilliamDaBloody.2591:

I hope they have some balls and make LA a ruin after at the end of season 1. As Mordemoth is very likely to come at the end of this season (or might be the season 2 topic) it would be perfect to destroy LA for good.

Not just a few destroyed buildings that are slowly rebuild. I really mean burned to the ground.

In a Living Story the world needs to change permanently. I hope Anet really does this instead of reverting it to its former state after the story concludes with a few hints of what happened.

I don’t mind slowly rebuilding (by slow I mean take years) but it should be a complete redesign (current version of the city isn’t that well designed anyway).

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Are you kidding me? I have never seen the such a major city change in games, LA is one if not the most important city in the game and it looks like they are about to change that.

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

People have been asking for actual consequences for a rather long time, and now they are clearly adding some.
People have also been complaining about how some stuff is always safe and will always survive no matter what, and it doesn’t really seem to be the case here.

aspirine.6852:

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Are you kidding me? I have never seen the such a major city change in games, LA is one if not the most important city in the game and it looks like they are about to change that.

Well you see major changes to the location of the main city all the time in MMOs (essentially every expansion). But I think this is the first time in an MMO the major city was taken away before a replacement city was put in game.

I am psyched to see how they transferred all the utilities of lion’s arch into the vigil keep. The keep is pretty big but maybe they have expanded it to accommodate. I’m more of a Priory guy myself but this is very exciting.

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Others have touched on why they are excited, and I agree.

This is why I am.

I’m excited because this looks FUN. It’s crazy, but it’s the main reason I play video games. I don’t look or plan at the games future because I love to live in the moment and enjoy what’s here for me now.

I have enough stresses in my life than to add a video game to them. When a game is no longer fun, I put it down and go play another one. Simple as that

Our favorite mechanized marvel takes on a new title…

YO-LO-TRON!

Bravely throwing himself in the face of danger to rescue citizens because…YOLO!!!

(Not official…but should be )

aspirine.6852:

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Are you kidding me? I have never seen the such a major city change in games, LA is one if not the most important city in the game and it looks like they are about to change that.

Even Ragnarok Online literally blew up two cities and turned them into smocking craters, then filled them with a boss battle hard enough that you had to gather half a server to go through it. Lineage 2 did much of the same. The ways in which the Living Story is developing so far have no explanations nor make any sense whatsoever, and this continues to worry me. Scarlet should have no means to do anything of what she does, each time she tries she should lose resources, yet she still has enough to blow up the most iconic city in the setting.

Malchior.5042:

Our favorite mechanized marvel takes on a new title…

YO-LO-TRON!

Bravely throwing himself in the face of danger to rescue citizens because…YOLO!!!

(Not official…but should be )

But.. this would technically be Job-O-Tron’s 4th life……

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Because if LA is destroyed, it means the living story is finally making real changes? At this point it doesn’t matter if other games have already done it, it matters that GW2 is finally doing it.

How is that hard to understand?

I saw it coming, but I did not expect to the scale that the teaser and massively seem to be saying.

Celestina.2894:

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Because if LA is destroyed, it means the living story is finally making real changes? At this point it doesn’t matter if other games have already done it, it matters that GW2 is finally doing it.

How is that hard to understand?

I thought we were rooting for more content, not for them permanently removing more chunks of the map for fun. But that may just be me.

Anmida.4058:

Celestina.2894:

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Because if LA is destroyed, it means the living story is finally making real changes? At this point it doesn’t matter if other games have already done it, it matters that GW2 is finally doing it.

How is that hard to understand?

I thought we were rooting for more content, not for them permanently removing more chunks of the map for fun. But that may just be me.

To make new content meaningful sometimes things are taken away.

Good talk about that at DICE: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq1YWbv-r0I&feature=youtu.be

Anmida.4058:

I thought we were rooting for more content, not for them permanently removing more chunks of the map for fun. But that may just be me.

They are not removing the area, they are changing it.
It will still be explorable (although not as safe as now).

And people HAVE been shouting about the Living World having no real consequences and changing nothing for about a year now.

Couldn’t care any less what happened to LA.
Are we getting any new real content? Dungeon? Instance?

Wow, this looks epic. Its going to be sad to see old LA ruins be destroyed even more than they were though.

Nervous and stoked at the same time, something I haven’t felt with GW in a long time. Going to take this time to explore LA with another character and take as many screenshots as I can!

I’m pretty stoked!!!! Time to really take this time to enjoy LA and old LA before the big shendig!!

Destroying the city is all good and well, but quite a few of the personal story quests happen there.

I suppose they can move the “meeting your mentor” quests around, but what about “the attack on claw island”?

I applaud the balls but I have some serious questions for the implementation of this.

Anmida.4058:

Celestina.2894:

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Because if LA is destroyed, it means the living story is finally making real changes? At this point it doesn’t matter if other games have already done it, it matters that GW2 is finally doing it.

How is that hard to understand?

I thought we were rooting for more content, not for them permanently removing more chunks of the map for fun. But that may just be me.

We are, but people have also been complaining that the living story has had no lasting changes. Tower of Nightmares was the first sign we the LS was improving in that regard, this may be the culmination.

Evans.6347:

Destroying the city is all good and well, but quite a few of the personal story quests happen there.

I suppose they can move the “meeting your mentor” quests around, but what about “the attack on claw island”?

I applaud the balls but I have some serious questions for the implementation of this.

The massively article address this, something about a new entrance. In which case, we may see Orr change in the future.

i cant wait for this finally a actual failed mission and consequences, gets really boring always winning against Scarlet not very realistic too
also cool they are funneling all the important things to the vigil keep
this next part and the last part will probably be my favorite living story parts besides tower of nightmares arc

kitten Lion’s Arch. I can’t wait for it to burn. *grabs some marshmallows*

Evans.6347:

Destroying the city is all good and well, but quite a few of the personal story quests happen there.

I suppose they can move the “meeting your mentor” quests around, but what about “the attack on claw island”?

I applaud the balls but I have some serious questions for the implementation of this.

In the massively article (http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/11/prepare-to-escape-from-lions-arch-in-guild-wars-2s-next-conten/) they state that they have already fixed that.
You will simply have to enter the Personal story from another way.

And to be fair the Personal Story itself is “locked in time” so the Personal story can still take place in LA even if the current LA would be destroyed,

Celestina.2894:

Anmida.4058:

Celestina.2894:

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Because if LA is destroyed, it means the living story is finally making real changes? At this point it doesn’t matter if other games have already done it, it matters that GW2 is finally doing it.

How is that hard to understand?

I thought we were rooting for more content, not for them permanently removing more chunks of the map for fun. But that may just be me.

We are, but people have also been complaining that the living story has had no lasting changes. Tower of Nightmares was the first sign we the LS was improving in that regard, this may be the culmination.

Yep. And people actually hated that because it ruined a beautiful map like Kessex Hills and made it dreary and gross now.

People have been clamoring for changes to the Living World since it’s supposed to be impacted by the Living Story.

Anmida.4058:

aspirine.6852:

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Are you kidding me? I have never seen the such a major city change in games, LA is one if not the most important city in the game and it looks like they are about to change that.

Even Ragnarok Online literally blew up two cities and turned them into smocking craters, then filled them with a boss battle hard enough that you had to gather half a server to go through it. Lineage 2 did much of the same. The ways in which the Living Story is developing so far have no explanations nor make any sense whatsoever, and this continues to worry me. Scarlet should have no means to do anything of what she does, each time she tries she should lose resources, yet she still has enough to blow up the most iconic city in the setting.

because LA if you think about it isnt defended from the air, even in the standard storyline it was ships and men (never knew why all those dragons in the final fight of arah story never just smashed LA, would have been easy to just fly over and crush it….instead they send an undead army and only one dragon which didnt even push to LA itself :/). As for resources, whos to say that since you smshed each group, that they havent been resupplying, etc. Scarlet won them over with various promises, how shes keeping them im not sure….thats a hole in my opinion, toxic allliance should have no reason to side with scarlet anymore, we killed their “demi-god”, but ,aybe that just riled them against us.

my point being that these are huge factions, our actions dented them but we didnt wipe them out, we just stopped their immediate plans. Now they are sending what they have left to LA for vengeance.

So living story kinda is plausible within the world of guild wars 2.

Anmida.4058:

Celestina.2894:

Anmida.4058:

I… don’t understand. How can anyone ever think this is getting better. How is this getting better? I am not bashing you, I swear. Please, explain to me how is this getting better. Because each new update is sending me into an abyssal depression towards the game’s future, and I am seriously worried about them not actually being able to turn this around away from the incoming crash zone.

Because if LA is destroyed, it means the living story is finally making real changes? At this point it doesn’t matter if other games have already done it, it matters that GW2 is finally doing it.

How is that hard to understand?

I thought we were rooting for more content, not for them permanently removing more chunks of the map for fun. But that may just be me.

Alot of questions is still unanswered as you said and we lack explanations for why things happen and that is what the wrapup of season 1 living story is most likely giving answers too.

But as far as we now something seems to be controlling Scarlet so you kinda have an answer already. Everything she has done has been under a greater power we don’t know about yet so when that power or entity reveals itself whether it might be an elder dragon or not, we will probably have a beginning of what season 2 will all be about and also have a fitting conclusion to season 1. Either way I strongly believe that season 2 will give us more content. Zones included.

I’m just guessing here…

But CANACH SAVES THE DAY!

He uses his “Call of the Karka” to summon a gigantic Karka queen to fight off Scarlet’s forces.

@1:10
Evon runs like a scared little kid, mwahahaha. I hope he dropped some gold in his way. x)

I see what arenanet is doing – they’re gonna destroy Lion’s Arch so no more hub city! Everyone will now have to go to a starter city for permanent residence, and no more easy access teleporting for free! XD

(just kidding)

Minos.5168:

I’m just guessing here…

But CANACH SAVES THE DAY!

He uses his “Call of the Karka” to summon a gigantic Karka queen to fight off Scarlet’s forces.

He’s being moved to the Vigil Keep. Looks like he won’t be stepping in to help.

A whole thread about “Escape from LA” and no Snake Pliskin reference?

SCARLET HAS THE WORLD CODE!

I just hope to see a nod to Snake Plissken somewhere during the event.

EDIT: displaced beat me to it.

lordkrall.7241:

Evans.6347:

Destroying the city is all good and well, but quite a few of the personal story quests happen there.

I suppose they can move the “meeting your mentor” quests around, but what about “the attack on claw island”?

I applaud the balls but I have some serious questions for the implementation of this.

In the massively article (http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/02/11/prepare-to-escape-from-lions-arch-in-guild-wars-2s-next-conten/) they state that they have already fixed that.
You will simply have to enter the Personal story from another way.

And to be fair the Personal Story itself is “locked in time” so the Personal story can still take place in LA even if the current LA would be destroyed,

Yes I read that. Though truth be told, that’s a far from elegant solution in my humble opinion.

But whatever, no need for nitpicking, exciting things are finally going to happen.

Nick.6972:

Couldn’t care any less what happened to LA.
Are we getting any new real content? Dungeon? Instance?

This.

Congratulations, Anet, you’re doing exactly what most people expected you to do, destroy LA. You’re now jumping on the bandwagon that Blizzard started with Catacylsm, ableit a few years late.

And that’s all fine and dandy, but what does that mean for the players? Is LA going to become a new dungeon? Is this a new explorable “elite” area like the Tower of Nightmares was? What’s going to happen when this update is gone, is LA just going to be a smoldering ruin with a few angry mobs that no one will bother going to outside of world completion?

And the most important question of all: Is this the big, epic, sweeping change to the world that will rock Tyria to it’s core? Because if it is…Than once again, I am dissappoint.

It also doesn’t help that this is part 3 of 4 of the finale, and unless there’s some big, epic reveal at the end of it regarding Scarlet’s motives, than hey guess what, we’ll be going into the final update completely blind of what Scarlet’s plan is, and I’m sure you’ll shove it down our throats in one big paragraph instead of telling it a crossed the past year like you should have.

It’s really difficult to get excited for an update when the trailer posted for it has one minute of “Oh look pretty LA views with recap” and 15 seconds of actual new content featured. And as others have said, destroying a capital city in an MMO is nothing new, nor novel.

It would be really nice if we could go back to how things were prior to Origins of Madness, and have a nice preview page of what the update will entail a week before, instead of a minute long trailer that usually doesn’t even show anything other than 10-15 seconds of content.

displacedTitan.6897:

A whole thread about “Escape from LA” and no Snake Pliskin reference?

SCARLET HAS THE WORLD CODE!

Please see my other thread titled “Escape for LA!!!!”

IceBlink.4317:

I see what arenanet is doing – they’re gonna destroy Lion’s Arch so no more hub city! Everyone will now have to go to a starter city for permanent residence, and no more easy access teleporting for free! XD

(just kidding)

There is a reason why the royal terrace pass was cheaper not so long ago …

Anet is royally shrewd and all the others get royally …

But seriously I don’t really care. I never did find LA the most user friendly city.

Blade Syphon.4325:

Nick.6972:

Couldn’t care any less what happened to LA.
Are we getting any new real content? Dungeon? Instance?

This.

Congratulations, Anet, you’re doing exactly what most people expected you to do, destroy LA. You’re now jumping on the bandwagon that Blizzard started with Catacylsm, ableit a few years late.

And that’s all fine and dandy, but what does that mean for the players? Is LA going to become a new dungeon? Is this a new explorable “elite” area like the Tower of Nightmares was? What’s going to happen when this update is gone, is LA just going to be a smoldering ruin with a few angry mobs that no one will bother going to outside of world completion?

And the most important question of all: Is this the big, epic, sweeping change to the world that will rock Tyria to it’s core? Because if it is…Than once again, I am dissappoint.

It also doesn’t help that this is part 3 of 4 of the finale, and unless there’s some big, epic reveal at the end of it regarding Scarlet’s motives, than hey guess what, we’ll be going into the final update completely blind of what Scarlet’s plan is, and I’m sure you’ll shove it down our throats in one big paragraph instead of telling it a crossed the past year like you should have.

It’s really difficult to get excited for an update when the trailer posted for it has one minute of “Oh look pretty LA views with recap” and 15 seconds of actual new content featured. And as others have said, destroying a capital city in an MMO is nothing new, nor novel.

It would be really nice if we could go back to how things were prior to Origins of Madness, and have a nice preview page of what the update will entail a week before, instead of a minute long trailer that usually doesn’t even show anything other than 10-15 seconds of content.

Everyone already know’s the “big” reveal that’s going to happen thanks to reddit and data miners. Expect the most predictable thing.
Here’s a hint, look at the GW2 logo.

Nick.6972:

Blade Syphon.4325:

Nick.6972:

Couldn’t care any less what happened to LA.
Are we getting any new real content? Dungeon? Instance?

This.

Congratulations, Anet, you’re doing exactly what most people expected you to do, destroy LA. You’re now jumping on the bandwagon that Blizzard started with Catacylsm, ableit a few years late.

And that’s all fine and dandy, but what does that mean for the players? Is LA going to become a new dungeon? Is this a new explorable “elite” area like the Tower of Nightmares was? What’s going to happen when this update is gone, is LA just going to be a smoldering ruin with a few angry mobs that no one will bother going to outside of world completion?

And the most important question of all: Is this the big, epic, sweeping change to the world that will rock Tyria to it’s core? Because if it is…Than once again, I am dissappoint.

It also doesn’t help that this is part 3 of 4 of the finale, and unless there’s some big, epic reveal at the end of it regarding Scarlet’s motives, than hey guess what, we’ll be going into the final update completely blind of what Scarlet’s plan is, and I’m sure you’ll shove it down our throats in one big paragraph instead of telling it a crossed the past year like you should have.

It’s really difficult to get excited for an update when the trailer posted for it has one minute of “Oh look pretty LA views with recap” and 15 seconds of actual new content featured. And as others have said, destroying a capital city in an MMO is nothing new, nor novel.

It would be really nice if we could go back to how things were prior to Origins of Madness, and have a nice preview page of what the update will entail a week before, instead of a minute long trailer that usually doesn’t even show anything other than 10-15 seconds of content.

Everyone already know’s the “big” reveal that’s going to happen thanks to reddit and data miners. Expect the most predictable thing.
Here’s a hint, look at the GW2 logo.

I feel I should point out that, if one spends any time on say tvtropes (or is experienced with stories in general) there is very little one will find unpredictable.

At least, I can’t think of anything that I wasn’t able to predict at least partially in recent years.